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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/19/21 6:16:08 PM
#250
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I literally said "oof" and people disagreed, I fact check this as false.

I don't actually see anybody disagreeing with you. I see Chris taking an issue with the way you presented it, I see actually several people agreeing, and I see FFD going "I think it's stupid but it makes sense." And then I see some discussion on whether it may or may not be a big deal for actual marijuana policy.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/19/21 6:11:26 PM
#247
Because the details literally matter. We know the underlying point. We don't know how big or small of a deal it might actually be when it comes to policy in general because we don't know the details surrounding pretty much any of it. Clearly there was some level of "X is okay, Y is sorta okay, Z is not okay" because there were varying levels of action taken. We can't just blanket say "This means it's fucked, policy-wise" right away. Both times I attempted to discuss the details, you basically went "shutup that's not the point." That's why I said you took a "the sky is falling" approach. You're just instantly, automatically assuming the absolute worst and getting on the case of anybody that doesn't.

Maybe you're right. Maybe you're not. We literally don't know, and there's no point in freaking out over it now. If you want to say "This doesn't look good," nobody's going to disagree, but you have a tendency to go super sensationalist about everything and the point often gets buried because people react to that instead.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/19/21 6:00:10 PM
#244
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
oops my fault for assuming a reply to hero that was literally a reply to a reply to ME involved me.

I'm not trying to shut down anything, the people literally saying "it's nothing, stop talking about it" are literally the ones shutting down convo.

Whatever man, I legitimately cannot stand the way my extremely mild comments are treated like I'm saying the sky is falling.

"oof...this is malarkey"

"Tony THINKS THE SKY IS FALLING"

bye

You're literally getting upset at people for wanting to discuss details surrounding it instead of just agreeing with you. What do you expect?

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/19/21 5:58:20 PM
#242
NFUN posted...
...then quote him and remove ambiguity?

My post is literally following one where he specifically was referring to me. C'mon. If you can't read it and realize it's replying to the one right above it, the problem isn't me.

EDIT: The post chain is literally me -> him -> me. Tony's just being obtuse.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/19/21 5:54:13 PM
#240
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
It's literally not about the five people, how many times do we have to say "it's not about the people" before you guys go "huh, maybe this DOES say something about their priorities on marijuana".

You're so focused on "only 5 people got fired", but the article literally says dozens were penalized.

That's malarkey!

You are completely missing the point in a way that is either extremely stupid or intentional, so you're catching my vig bullet for this one.

I'm not replying to you, get that through your head for five minutes. I was literally replying directly to Hero since he specifically mentioned people getting fired.

We know your point. We know the underlying point. What we don't need are your attempts to shut down any further conversation. If you're looking for people to just agree with you and just join your chorus of "THE SKY IS FALLING," then you're not in the right place.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/19/21 5:31:25 PM
#237
We don't know that the five people that actually got fired got fired just for only smoking weed. Most of the people it impacted did not get fired, so what was different about those five people? Hence, we don't have all of the details.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/19/21 5:25:40 PM
#235
We don't know all of the details surrounding it, which is why some of us aren't rushing to yell "the sky is falling!" every five minutes like you do. Let's wait until a chunk actually starts to fall, eh?

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/19/21 1:52:19 PM
#224
Last month, NBC News reported the White House would on a case-by-case basis waive a requirement preventing past marijuana use allowing potential appointees in the Executive Office of the President be eligible for a Top Secret clearance. The report at the time had noted that the waiver would be granted to those who have used marijuana on a limited basis in the past and are in positions that dont ultimately require a security clearance.

It doesn't sound like they'd have been completely blindsided by this if even the media knew about it

EDIT: It also sounds like only 5 were actually canned.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 6:09:44 PM
#75
Is AbsoluteUnit a fuming alt or something

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 5:26:09 PM
#72
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Sounds like fuming fell for propaganda.

Like I said before, I've seen plenty of people defending North Korea ever since Trump decided he wanted to be friendlier with them. I just didn't realize the lasting impact it would have, was hoping they would throw that away once he was out of office.

Oh, you're right, and it was fuming that argued that wasn't a thing

"I've certainly never seen people defending North Korea! btw, leave North Korea alone!"

Huh

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 5:12:05 PM
#70
https://twitter.com/RichPhelps/status/1372257212966440960

I think we may know why he was so willing to report that the shooter was just "having a bad day," now!

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 5:06:38 PM
#69
Looking into the paper more, it sounds like they've consistently faced threats and even imprisonment over being critical of things such as the Japanese police force's use of violent force against Koreans (sound familiar?) and other bad government policies, and have continued to do so despite the constant threats. Doesn't sound like a tabloid to me, sounds like a paper that isn't afraid to let their voices be heard.

Why are we defending North Korea all of a sudden?

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 4:54:53 PM
#67
CaptainOfCrush posted...
He can (and probably is) both, but yeah, the way plum clung to any explanation for this horror *other* than racism is pathetic.

Oh, right, I'm not saying it can't be both. plum just instantly dismissed that it could be racism in that post.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 4:54:03 PM
#66
Do you have proof it's just a tabloid? Wikipedia doesn't appear to agree. I do see it mention one instance where they got a death wrong (though they did say it came from an unidentified source), and then how the North Korean government hates it and constantly tries to threaten them since they're critical of its policies.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 4:48:13 PM
#63
masterplum posted...
How do you read this and go, "yeah this guy made up his mind"

masterplum posted...
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/17/978141138/atlanta-shooting-suspect-is-believed-to-have-visited-spas-he-targeted

He visited the spas and claims it's not racially motivated.

Why it's a big deal is because incels are also a huge problem and deradicalizing incels is also a big issue.

We need to figure out how to get these people mental health, and going lol racism is not productive


This post highly suggests your mind was made up, whether you realized it or not, because you just instantly took it as confirmation and moved on to "We need to get incels mental health help" and dismissing potential racism, despite the fact that we clearly didn't have all of the facts.

You did exactly what you accused others of doing.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 3:45:00 PM
#53
Yes, you did. You immediately started with arguments of how it couldn't be racism because it just so happens there are "only" Asian brothels, and you instantly went to "We need to focus on getting incels help" based purely on the word of the killer when no actual investigation has been done yet.

EDIT: You didn't wait for the facts. You waited until something fit the assumption you held and then decided "okay guys i'm right we can wrap it up here" despite... We still didn't have the facts.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 3:40:32 PM
#51
masterplum posted...
Oh no. How dare I reserve judgement until facts come out. I'm such a terrible person

You didn't do that, though.

Whether you admit it or not, you had already made your mind up that it was X instead of Y and were purposely looking for anything that fit that assumption, as evident by the fact that you instantly started taking a "CASE CLOSED" stance based literally on just the word of the killer himself.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 2:00:27 PM
#44
Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/TokyoTom2020/status/1372102408113770496

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 369: Non-Fungible Tokenism
HashtagSEP
03/17/21 1:57:45 PM
#42
Gee, it's not like a criminal would insist his crime isn't racially motivated in order to avoid harsher charges or anything, never! We better just take them for their word!

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TopicThe Snyder Cut is getting positive reviews
HashtagSEP
03/16/21 2:17:35 PM
#61
Birds of Prey always got a good amount of hate. Fans just tried to dismiss it as "It's just people hating on it because they HATE WOMEN"

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TopicMADtv Actress says she QUIT the show cause her WHITE MALE Co-Stars got more $$!.
HashtagSEP
03/11/21 2:36:45 PM
#12
Well, I mean he's referring to when they were on MadTV, so I was confused if you were making a joke or if you just weren't aware they were on it

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 368: Stimulating the American People
HashtagSEP
03/11/21 2:13:32 PM
#292
Good... Good... Let the hate flow through you

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TopicMADtv Actress says she QUIT the show cause her WHITE MALE Co-Stars got more $$!.
HashtagSEP
03/11/21 1:21:33 PM
#10
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
On a show named after them started 20 years later? Wow no way

is this a joke Im missing

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TopicDo you think every Pokemon is someone's favorite?
HashtagSEP
03/10/21 1:55:47 PM
#140
Yeah, Volcarona is pretty badass

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 368: Stimulating the American People
HashtagSEP
03/10/21 1:18:35 PM
#223
masterplum posted...
You hate me because of my beliefs.

You are no better than the anti maskers.

To be fair, most of your beliefs are basically "i don't think we should help people," so they're beliefs you should probably expect to be disliked for

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TopicDo you think every Pokemon is someone's favorite?
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 6:58:34 PM
#115
Because the other trash monkeys look dumb and unappealing but Simisage has a pompadour

https://cdn.bulbagarden.net/upload/thumb/2/24/512Simisage.png/250px-512Simisage.png

Look at this thing. It's amazing(ly better than the other two)

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 368: Stimulating the American People
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 6:49:06 PM
#166
Xeybozn posted...
That's not really a DST thing, though. Ohio and (eastern) Kentucky are about as far west as Eastern Time "should" go geographically, while Vegas is the on the far east of where Western Time "should" be. It's pretty obvious that even if the time zones were perfectly designed, they'd have massively different sun times regardless of any seasonal adjustments.

Right, but my point is standard would mean it gets darker even EARLIER in the summer when it's already getting darker earlier than I'm used to to begin with, which is why I'd pick DST over standard.

If I'm used to it getting dark at 8-9 in DST in Ohio, and it's getting dark at 7-8 in DST in Vegas, keeping it standard all year would mean I'm seeing dark at 6-7 in Vegas, which I don't want.

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TopicDo you think every Pokemon is someone's favorite?
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 5:36:50 PM
#112
He's probably talking about the one that was already posted, it doesn't seem like he read the topic much.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 368: Stimulating the American People
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 5:30:52 PM
#159
Being serious, I guess if I really thought about it I'd probably prefer to keep DST. Back when I lived in Ohio and Kentucky I would've preferred standard, but now I'm in Vegas and it gets darker an hour earlier than I'm used to due to being at the beginning of the time zone and that sucks more than potential morning commutes, I guess.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 368: Stimulating the American People
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 5:26:37 PM
#158
"Oh no I'm possibly very slightly inconvenienced for two days of the year what ever will I do" seems like a real first world problem. Enjoy having that much in common with Rubio.

I bet you go to sleep dreaming about him now, you love him so much.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 368: Stimulating the American People
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 5:13:09 PM
#154
The switching has plenty of reason. Standard time is great for the winter because it gets lighter earlier which is nice for morning commutes. But then if you keep it that way all year round, you're getting light at like 5am and dark at like 7 (or earlier if you're at the beginning of a timezone) in the summer which sucks, too.

You might not notice as much of a difference if you're in the middle or the end of a timezone, but if you're toward the beginning of one then not switching would really suck.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 368: Stimulating the American People
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 4:54:58 PM
#151
NFUN posted...
that's fine, because you'll get home while it's still light out and might have a chance to actually feel sunlight in the winter

I'll take having light for the morning commute over like 30 minutes of light after the work day is over when I won't give a shit anyway

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 368: Stimulating the American People
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 4:34:11 PM
#147
UshiromiyaEva posted...
Finally Republicans have put forth a bill that's good for once.

https://twitter.com/WardDPatrick/status/1369393910322245641?s=19

Gross, it wouldn't be light in the morning in winter until like 8-8:30

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TopicDo you think every Pokemon is someone's favorite?
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 4:21:10 PM
#106
Huntail and even Gorebyss are both miles better than Clamperl.

Shellder for life

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TopicDo you think every Pokemon is someone's favorite?
HashtagSEP
03/09/21 4:18:01 PM
#102
I like Huntail

Huntail's also the only eel-like Pokemon that actually looks like an eel, so I'm sure that ticks a box somewhere.

Like, Eelektross is great, but he also kinda turns into an abomination, so I could see an eel lover liking Huntail more of the two.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 5:05:49 PM
#309
So they're now saying it looks like Manchin may vote for BOTH amendments, and since there's a Republican out of town, it'd mean the dem one would win.

So this may have all been one giant ego flex

I just can't

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 2:21:30 PM
#259
Also, lost in all this, Sinema literally copied the McCain thumbs down on the minimum wage vote.

https://twitter.com/Roots_Action/status/1367906192626831363

Garbage people.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 2:20:54 PM
#258
Frankly, I don't think Manchin kills it when it gets down to it. He's bluffed before.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 2:17:48 PM
#256
I mean, that's literally the problem with the democratic party.

"Well, we probably SHOULD let them shit in our mouths, because it's better than nothing, right?"

You literally can't get stronger and move forward as a party if you just cower every time, because the other side and now Manchin know they literally have all the power. And this is just going to happen again and again and again.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 2:15:11 PM
#253
TotallyNotMI posted...
I mean okay he kills it the way McCain killed their healthcare vote. Now what?

Then it's actually clear Manchin is the one that killed it, instead of them compromising and compromising and compromising and putting forth a shitty end product that will rightfully be blamed on all of them and STILL lose them the house and senate.

You take the chance to step over the shit and hope the other guy has enough sense to do so as well, instead of agreeing to roll around in it.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 2:12:52 PM
#249
TotallyNotMI posted...
This all is horrible but I hate that it's being phrased as Dems who are fucking this up. It's one person. But the media and general populace are stupid and won't see it that way and we'll lose house and senate in 2022 and argh

No, it's absolutely the Dems that are fucking up by trying to compromise with him in the first place, which just gave him more power, instead of making him have to decide if he wants to be the vote that kills it or not. There were several of them in favor of cutting it to $300 as it is.

Let's not pretend they're blameless, here. The phrasing is absolutely correct.

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 1:52:24 PM
#235
So, basically, if Manchin backs the GOP amendment it just means they still won't vote for the bill but people will get less aid and Manchin will look like a jackass but he apparently won't care and democrats will learn absolutely nothing

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 1:47:55 PM
#232
So Rob Portman wants to do $300 only through July and it is NOT tax free

And they think Manchin's going to back that and refuse the other one

I just can't

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 1:43:10 PM
#230
Manchin for sure wants it to end early. I saw it say Sinema, too, but sources just may be confused on which side Sinema is on

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 1:41:06 PM
#227
Sounds like Manchin and Sinema don't want it to go past June or July

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 12:20:30 PM
#216
So the White House has come out in support of the UI change as well

At this point I dont care if Republicans take everything back because if Im going to get fucked either way Id rather know its coming

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 11:54:04 AM
#209
Apparently the jobs report made them feel comfortable with fucking people over

Seriously, fuck them all

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 11:34:28 AM
#201
Oh, it appears a bunch of them wanted it and just didnt go public about it. So basically theyve been lying to our faces with the intent to change stuff in the 9th inning

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 11:29:06 AM
#198
Manchin and Sinema both wanted $300 so they probably bitched at the last second

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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 367: Cuomophobic
HashtagSEP
03/05/21 11:25:14 AM
#193
Theyre showing that theyre fucking cowards that dont actually give a damn enough to fight for anything they promised, theyll just keep backing down over and over again and were supposed to live with it because durr its not trump

Fuck that, theyve lost my vote.

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