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Goatsensation posted...

Shab

Houses are for living in, not for speculation.
-Xi Jinping

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Spaceman Bill the Space Actor. Died doing what he loved.

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I mean, idk it could be, right?

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it was me, we went on date and kissing happened

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id crane (get it?) my neck to feast on dat

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Pepsi: It Gets The Job Done

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Comedy Central, which previously renewed the long-running animated comedy through Season 26, has picked up an additional four seasons, guaranteeing at least 30 (!) seasons. Season 25 is expected to premiere on the cable network sometime in 2022, with additional seasons unspooling through 2027.

But wait, theres more! As part of a new overall deal with ViacomCBS, series creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker will produce 14 (!) South Park movies exclusively for Paramount+. The first two films will bow on the streaming service later this year.

https://tvline.com/2021/08/05/south-park-renewed-season-30-new-movies-comedy-central-paramount-plus/

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Veggeta_MAX posted...

Let's make this topic about me instead. Today I am eating a hamburger for lunch.

what sides you getting?

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No thanks, Mrs. 16 Karma.

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*hands TC a shot of tequila*

welcome home bruh

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Apart from, you know, every time it's been tried.

If youre speaking from a place of historical ignorance or lying, sure. In reality, communist revolutions have massively improved peoples lives.

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OmegaShinkai posted...

Says the person who turned a topic about someone having difficulties trying to conceive children about themselves simply because you can't bear not being the center of attention.

DravenRainrix posted...

Was that the same topic they brought up the death of a posters partner to score points?

yo wtf for real


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Atralis posted...

I disagree. In a way I've lived the "to each according to their needs from each according to their abilities" life when I was enlisted in the Army.

I got "free housing" in a small room I didn't choose with a roommate I didn't choose. I got "free food" in the form of a meal card that could only be used in on base dining facilities that sucked.

When food and housing becomes a "gift" that is given to you rather than something you pay for then you end up losing the freedom to choose the form that gift takes.

Do you want to live in a 1 bedroom apartment and spend money on vacations or do you want to buy a house and have less cash for traveling but have more space.

Not your call if someone else is making the choice for you.

You realize none of this jives with Marxism, right?

Yes I would rather have that stuff than be homeless and starving. However, in a communist system, nothing says that having that stuff is the limit of existence. You can have the luxuries you want to have.


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Error1355 posted...

Honestly? You think he was 'pretending' to be upset that children were murdered in a school shooting?

I mean, maybe. He bombed a bunch of children himself without shedding a tear, after all.

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Ilishe posted...

See, I can give you undeniably hard truth as an argument against your communist bulls***.

glommunism is when everybody lazy and no work, 10 billigazillion dead

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BlackOmnimon posted...

Yeah people like Tucker Carlson or Trump himself would get arrested and reeducated.

Liberals pretend like theyd love that but in reality they worship personalities like Tucker and Trump just as much as their actual supporters do. They dont want anything to actually be done about their abhorrent behavior which has caused demonstrable harm to our nation. Theyre limp, comfortable cowards.

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16-BITTER posted...

But you love to shitpost

What I love are material conditions befitting that of a human being.

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I get lifted out of abject misery and poverty, but I cant shitpost conspiracy theories about how the vaccines are turning the frogs into Bill Gates personal dance troupe on Facebook?

Decisions, decisions.

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Gets respect and love, all across the board. Shes been adored, for keeping it raw. Nothing less or more, Calyps scores every time for sure, while the rest of yall CEmen just mad.

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Lonestar2000 posted...

Debt-trapping countries with Belt and Road projects.

Again, this is a myth opposed even by prestigious western researchers:

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2020/08/debunking-myth-debt-trap-diplomacy

Machete posted...

kim jong un won with 100% of the vote and 100% of citizens voted...

I get what this topic is all about, but come on now lol

Bro we can chat about this or not but I do critically support the DPRK.

Ilishe posted...

The main difference as far as I'm concerned is that China hasn't unleashed murder armies on foreign countries.

Yes Id agree dat is one of da main differences.

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Doe posted...

English lol, I'm almost conversant in Spanish but I'm only fluent in English.

Oh I gotcha lol, Im super into lyric-heavy hip hop so I cant relate to lyrics distracting me, I find them engaging (when theyre well-written).

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Whats your first language, if you dont mind me asking?

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shockthemonkey posted...

Because this is the new playbook against progressives

The absurd idea that money has nothing to do with elections is such an abject, stupendously ludicrous lie, its no surprise Broseph and his ilk are trying to demonize anyone who says it isnt.

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Strider102 posted...

Now you know the truth.

It changes things, that knowledge. Doesn't it?

hell no, Ima continue living my life. You cant force me to wear slippers

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Krojen posted...

Broseph alt topic.

xD

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Lonestar2000 posted...

LMAO @ thinking China isn't imperialist.

They really arent. The largest empire on Earth (U.S.) likes to say they are as projection but every global south country China is involved with is thanking them for their help in developing infrastructure.

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Honestly, the more stupid non-reasons I run into for why China should be s*** on, the less I trust any of it, and the more it all comes across as a big whiny toddler tantrum from the capitalist bloc as the one remaining economic system that tries to look after its people slowly destroys neoliberalism from within in slow-motion.

Here's why: there's really only one credible, large-scale, non-partisan data set that lets you objectively compare China to the rest of the world (and examine the world on the whole) - the UN Millenium Development Goals (UNMDG) dataset (reason: look at how the data is gathered). It's widely accepted, and beloved by leftists, social liberals, liberals/centrists, neoliberals, and even neocons alike...and it portrays China as a miraculous success story representing (numerically) the largest expansion of human rights in the entire history of humanity.

And this isn't even as hyperbolic as the biggest fans of it get (the Gates Foundation is notorious for this): they seem to love releasing little reports on the data, full of over-the-top dramatizations about the ascent of the human race, dusting off the shackles of past economic oppression and walking hand-in-hand into a bright, technologically advanced, post-scarcity future, united as one great race...the human race, ready to start truly exploring the galaxy together. There's even an entire genre of books about this e.g. Better Angels of Our Nature, Enlightenment Now, Homo Deus, Sapiens. And my little depiction of their content isn't even close to as breathless and giddy some parts of this genre get.

Except...everyone tends to dance around this very inconvenient detail in the data: that if you pull China and Vietnam out of the dataset, that rosy progress narrative is completely inverted. Suddenly, UNMDG paints a dark, miserable, and bleak picture of humanity on the decline and civilization slowly collapsing, as poverty skyrockets around the world, living standards drop, and climate change threatens to snip the last thread so many long-suffering people in the global south clutch for dear life...and meanwhile the little islands of stability in the imperialist core (which are responsible for this sorry state) turn colonialism inward, slowly eating their own citizens alive to the point that deaths from sheer despair start reversing the centuries-running rise in life expectancy.

You'll find the second narrative in individual country reports from groups like Amnesty International, and even the UNMDG groups themselves in many of the country-level orgs (e.g. read the reports on America if you want a taste of this).

Include China and Vietnam, you get the former. Exclude them, you get the latter.

So the one large-scale, comprehensive, Western data source that has to avoid propaganda (or if anything, would skew the other way) accidentally declares Vietnam and China as the one hope for humanity's future.

TBH I think that's a ridiculously dramatic and absurdly unbalanced take, but that's what the West has to say when it's just nakedly spouting the "has there been progress" numbers and turning the numeric change into utopian (or dystopian) narratives.

So who are the baddies here? In the only place we're totally data-bound and forced to be honest (thanks to how UNMDG is gathered), we seem to think it's us.
I've reached a point where, their flaws aside, I'm wholeheartedly in favor of China replacing America as the global hegemon, for so many reasons (and I haven't even gone into foreign policy here...e.g. the beloved Latin American pink wave was dependent on Chinese intervention). It really wasn't easy admitting this, but if I want to stay objective, data-driven, and science-oriented, I just don't see what other conclusion is reasonable.

I'd love to be proven wrong, because it flies so strongly in the face of everything I thought intuitively and was raised to believe, but so far no one has managed it. For the most part every attempt I've seen to debunk it either: 1. lists a bunch of actually-evil atrocities that amount to lower-key versions of evil s*** done in the West, which doesn't do anything besides bolster my point that while it's an improvement, there are no utopias, and a future with no nations is essential; 2. points at bottom-up violence occurring in the context of the original revolution (Like no s***? Hear what happened when capitalism started going global - i.e. the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars?); 3. spouts a bunch of racist crap; 4. makes weird appeals to "freedom" that make less and less sense as surveillance capitalism eats more and more of our lives and mass incarceration levels in the West continue to massively outpace China's; or 5. Temporarily invents a new standard of morality that gets solely applied to China - e.g. "sounds like imperialism to me - forcing all those people out of absolute poverty without even finding out if that's what they want" (except they do, they just use polling instead of electoralism...and literally no one wants absolute poverty, and anyone who thinks anyone possibly could has zero understanding of the concept).

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ssjevot posted...

People can't afford housing

70% of Chinese millennials are homeowners.

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Why did the revolutionary peasants who overthrew their feudal and colonist lords a mere 70 years ago let it get to this point?

Come on shock man youre better than this, better than blaming the victim.

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Idk how I can simplify it for you........

Yes, there are problems in China, a country which first started seriously industrializing ~70 years ago, including wealth inequality, but the difference is they have actual concrete governmental strategies to combat these problems.

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shockthemonkey posted...

ok so what if instead of responding to his response to me, you just respond to me

Reducing income inequality is clearly important policy for both social stability and in ensuring effective circulation within the economy (rich people save, and that leads to less demand). Its not just based on a moralistic fairness argument, there are huge benefits and huge downsides if inequality becomes too large. Its almost indisputably a good, and important thing to pursue, and yet we in the U.S. cant make any progress on it because of the ineffective governance system, where corporations and rich donors have basically taken over.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-23/china-looks-at-cutting-inequality-in-order-to-boost-the-economy

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aka Melissa Villaseor?

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ssjevot posted...

Yeah he posted pictures of himself but when you mention he is white he loses his shit. He doesn't believe white privilege is a thing and therefore feels qualified to speak for minorities as their white savior despite not knowing their language and having no experience in their county.

More asinine lies, as expected.




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ssjevot posted...

I think he answered it when he said capitalism is actually not opposed to socialism. Tankies just call state capitalism socialism and expect us to play along.

^this post, in a pic:



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Broseph_Stalin posted...

when the post said absolutely nothing about debt-trap diplomacy but your BAC is high enough that everything you read is just a blur

The inane graphic you shared has China encroaching on the rest of the world (a ridiculous notion considering China doesnt fuck with the sovereignty of others like the U.S. which you worship does) in a spatial manner similar to where the BRI is accomplishing things so I figured thats what you were referencing.

What are you referencing? Made up nonsense with ludicrous illustrations more suited to a crappy YouTube childrens cartoon? Yeah, I figured.

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Imagine having never read theory but still feeling the confidence to speak obnoxiously on it.

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imagine being sober enough to care dat you peed all over yourself lmfao

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

when you're not imperialist

even western sources call your claim of Chinese imperialism a lie:

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2020/08/debunking-myth-debt-trap-diplomacy

not that anyone reasonable here should consider anything you post to be anything else.

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ssjevot posted...

Bro I've lived in China, most of my family is in China, I know Chinese. You are some dude in the US who thinks he is an expert because he reads propaganda on Reddit. You say ignorant shit constantly even Wu Mao don't claim. Nationalism replaced socialism long ago. You don't get the most millionaires and billionaires in the world with a PPP GDP median income of $17,000 through any system other than capitalism. Like you have zero concept of the massive income inequality and lack of social safety nets or workers rights in China yet you think it's some kind of utopia. If you actually went there you would at least stop pretending it isn't capitalist (the Chinese government itself says it is capitalist).

The Dengist reforms were a transition from one strategy for creating communism (centralized state planning and state ownership) to another (liberalization).

Communists dont view capitalism as opposed to socialism, but rather as a stepping block toward socialism similar to the way capitalism evolved from feudalism.

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Me too, they goaded me into using it.

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Why are you posting an article that denies genocide? Tagged appropriately.

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The people of China have had incredible success overthrowing corrupt local bureaucrats.

Though it came as a shock to Western audiences, who understand China to be a tyrannical state-capitalist authoritarian regime, observers in the imperial periphery have always seen things rather differently. As far back as 2004, Fidel Castro argued that China has objectively become the most promising hope and the best example for all Third World countries, and in August 2014, he reaffirmed this sanguine outlook: Xi Jinping is one of the strongest and most capable revolutionary leaders I have met in my life. In May 2018, Professor Yanis Varoufakis, former Greek Minister of Finance, assuaged an anxious member of the audience at a Cambridge Forum: I have to tell you that, from my understanding of China, its a very interesting social experiment, in the sense that at the local level or the regional level you now have a boisterous democracy, with popular success stories in overthrowing local authorities, local bureaucrats who have been corrupt.

Later that same year, before his 2019 ouster in a US-backed coup, Evo Morales said I trust China very much. China has always accompanied us in many of our aspirations in the social, cultural, political and economic spheres and that Chinas support and aid to Bolivias economic and social development never attaches any political conditions. In 2020 the former Liberian Minister for Public Works W. Gyude Moore bluntly wrote China has built more infrastructure in Africa in two decades than the West has in centuries, China is also our friend, and in 2021 Iran signed a 25-year cooperation agreement with China.

Despite the vehement insistence of Western punditry, world consensus against Chinas tyranny fails to materialize.

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Lathissamus posted...

Where'd you get that statistic? From the CCP?

Long-term, unbiased study by a western university and research center, actually. Namely, Harvard:

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/

Lathissamus posted...

I wonder if you even know the history of the Chinese "government."

Very much so.

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Lathissamus posted...

Chinese people are great and their culture is incredible.

With that being said, fuck the CCP.

The CPC has 95% approval from its citizens. So, lets address what youre really trying to say as you attempt to couch it in shadowy, dog-whistle-esque language, hmm?


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Shezarr posted...

I wasn't aware the opposite of socialism was imperialism.

I wouldnt necessarily say deyre exact opposites but socialism is certainly diametrically opposed to imperialism.

Shezarr posted...

Also,

No you aren't lmao

What makes you love to lie?

Shezarr posted...

Now, a quick reminder that Shab insists he has never used reddit

Ah, so you just ignore reality. I told you days ago that Ive started visiting Reddit.

Teh_Dr_Phil posted...

You support genocide.

Stop lying about me.

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dat made me blush from da cuteness lol

uwu

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