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Joe_Biden posted...

what the fuck

Yeeeaah...you're not done. You're just starting. :)

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

Then he probably did the best thing he could have. If someone is to blame at all, it is whomever allowed him on that road by forgetting the barricade in the first place.

I work for the DOT in Minnesota and had a friend present at the incident. In short, protests shouldnt take place on interstates. Even if the DOT rushes to allow for it (like they did here) incidents like this will occur because of barricade and other misunderstandings (as well as true racist/hate incidents). The event was scary as heck, but throwing the book at the guy wouldnt have served justice.

We had another incident recently where a drunk killed someone at a street-blocking protest. Throw the book at that guy.

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Do you gave a Super Strong Monsters turned on? If so, then yes: it can be a challenge at times (notably the beginning and the other times when you just have a couple characters).

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LinkPizza posted...

Id have to say start looking for another. And once you find one, you can leave this one

This. Don't quit without another plan, but find another plan!

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Cruddy_horse posted...

I really wanted to play that game but I got like 4 hours in before I realized you cannot edit the difficulty after starting the game and the game was just too easy for me to not get bored.

Yeah, the base game needs to be harder. That said, 4 hours doesnt seem terribly long?

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Now Iowa, on the other hand, truly might not exist. And I live in Minnesota. :)

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Mead posted...

I like both but to me you have this completely backwards

red vines are more like classic style licorice, where twizzlers are almost waxy and more fruity

To each their own, I guess. If true I don't much like classic licorice. :) I find Redvines chewy and plastic-y, both in texture and taste. Maybe I've only had dried out ropes, I dunno.

I don't really like the cherry Twizzlers/bites/Nibs/etc, but the strawberry are pretty good.

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I can verify Wisconsin exists, but yeah...it might as well not.

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Redvine = flavored plastic. Twizzlers = candy.

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The music copied from DQ8 is great. The new stuff (first overworld theme included) ismeh.

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LinkPizza posted...

Couldnt you, though? Like when they light up a flat stage on certain parts, where other parts are completely dark?

Well, maybe if we constructed some walls between different areas. Kind of like the Lego Movie world. :) I have yet to observe one of the walls, though.

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Soup_or_Science posted...

Can you disprove my claim?

Yes. Via something I saw on TikTok yesterday. :)

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I mean, I technically suppose you could have different TIMES in different places for some reason. :) You couldn't have day and night in different places though.

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Time zones seem pretty conclusive to me. If Im talking to someone during their nighttime and its day for me I dont see any realistic explanation other than round.

Or, you know, just seeing it from a plane or something.

There are much easier targets, frankly. Why not doubt that electrons exist? You can have a better discussion there.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Have you heard the Hamilton Polka?

Yes. Good stuff. :)

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Metalsonic66 posted...

I don't leave home without my pancreas

I'm not sure if I trust him on the part about it attracting every other pancreas in the universe with a force inversely proportional to the distance between them, but he seems knowledgeable. Let's go with it.

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I also have never seen my pancreas, but I believe I have one. Weird Al explained it to me.

If the point of flat earthers it to say that anything you cant see yourself is uncertainfine, I guess. However, if you go through life doubting things that many people who you judge to be reliable tell you are trueyoure going to have a tough go of it. How do you know cats cant be dried in the microwave?

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I cant stand the cheese goo. Kraft for me. Back in college Id throw in some pepperoni too.

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FatalAccident posted...

Is the film any good?

Ehhh...not really. The cast is top notch and they give it a memorable moment or two, but it's more or less a standard 2000-era raunchy movie without much creativity. It wouldn't be made in the MeToo era, and rightfully so.

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MondoMan180 posted...

I wasnt sure Dr Seuss was a series really, but yea I dunno why I added that qualifier in the 1st place

It's a bit hard to tell with children's books: Frog and Toad has continuing characters, but no plots or anything else that would really makes it a "series". I think it's more about regular authors than "series" there, maybe...

Metalsonic66 posted...

The interesting thing about Dr. Seuss is that, even though his books are always labeled as "children's books", I appreciate the clever wordplay and the flow of the poetry much more, as an adult.

None of those who have tried to imitate him have really been able to match the quality of his rhyming and storytelling. Even as a kid I could tell that something about his stories was just catchier (not that I could have described what I meant at the time).

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As an adult reading the young kid books: Frog and Toad hands down from that list.

However, Mo Willems' books (Pigeon, Elephant and Piggie) are the 'new age' version of Frog and Toad. Clever absurdity.

And, you know, Dr. Seuss? (Certain recent censorship notwithstanding) Is the world really so different now that Dr. Seuss doesn't show up in the first 29 posts of a topic like this?

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ReturnOfFa posted...

Great summary...my POV basically parallels yours.

In retrospect I suppose I could have gone back 3500 years to the time when the Israelites originally took over Palestine from the locals in the first place (with walls falling down and such) but the point was probably already made. And history gets more and more questionable the further back you go. Situations like this demonstrate why "possession is 9/10ths of the law".

Of course, morality is something else entirely...

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Mead posted...

Do they really not see how many parallels there are between how they are treating Palestinians and the way that Jewish people were persecuted and mistreated in Europe decades ago?

Yes, THAT is the correct question and the most relevant use of that history. Given their background it's particularly inexcusable.

Metalsonic66 posted...

Did someone else block me

It appears so.

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Ouch. I feel attacked. Which portion of what I wrote do you disagree with? The "they belong there" statement, maybe?

If it would help to clarify, I believe the Palestinians have a right to be there as well. Both have been wrongly kicked out of the region and mistreated in the past, but both have always maintained some level of presence there. What is important that they find a way to share power (or separate) and coexist given current realities. The responsibility to do so falls upon the group in power: in this case the Israeli government.

I know the suggestion wasn't serious, but forcing the Israelis to move to the Dakotas (or anywhere else) would create yet another group of "losers" in the debate. In that case the Native American Dakota people. Once wars occur and populations are displaced there are always going to be historic wrongs, and most of those wrongs simply can't be corrected in reality. What is important is to grant everyone rights and a voice consistent with agreed-upon human rights in 2021. And that isn't happening now.

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^I COULD edit it. But I'm not going to. :)

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Arguments about the past are going to get nowhere, because the history of that particular stretch of land are very tortured and complex. Here's a primer (which obviously includes oversimplifications):

3000 years ago. There was a Jewish/Israeli kingdom. How similar are Jewish people today to the people of this kingdom? I'm no full expert, but I understand that there are still genetic (not to mention religious) consistencies so it's not completely wrong to draw a connection.
2500 years ago. The Jewish kingdom gets destroyed and many of the Jewish people (mostly the upper classes) were intentionally sent into exile in Babylon and elsewhere.
2000 years ago. The Jewish kingdom was starting to be rebuilt, but the Romans came and conquered them. They destroyed their temple and ushered in a new era of repression. Also, Christianity grew out of Judiasm.
1500 years ago. The territory contains a mix of Arabs, Jews, and post-Jewish Christians. However, the Roman emperor converts to Christianity so they are the favored residents of the area (as part of the Byzantines, yes).
1200 years ago. Islam is founded...again in the same general area. Arab Muslim forces capture Jerusalem, although they fight mostly against the Byzantines. In this period the Jews are not at the center of the conflict: they persist somewhat in the background.
1000 years ago. The Crusades begin. These are rather disastrous for the Jews, who were often the ones displaced for the Christian kingdoms that briefly sprang up here and there. As I understand the Jewish population was actually displaced more by the Crusades than by the Muslim conquest.
500 years ago. The displaced Jews were living all over the place in Europe, and anti-Semitism was a real problem (the Inquisition, etc)
100 years ago. Anti-Semitism was coming to a real head in Europe and many Jews moved back to Palestine (as part of the Zionism movement) given that their home-away-from-home in Europe was strongly rejecting them (and WWII was on the horizon) and given that the Ottoman Empire had just been destroyed in WWI.
80 years ago. The Holocaust occurs.
75 years ago. The surviving Jews flee to Palestine to meet up with the Zionists. There is mutual dislike between them and the local Arabs. Conflict quickly breaks out. The West supports the Jews, which was very understandable given the events of the preceding 50 (or 3000) years, who win the short wars and set up a government.

...and then nothing much changed until today, unfortunately. The situation never stabilized.

The point is: it is wrong to say that Jews don't belong in Israel/Palestine/pick your name. They were wronged and kicked out of the land by force over centuries. They have no true home elsewhere. HOWEVER, two wrongs don't make a right. (Or in this case, 12,529 wrongs don't make a right)

The situation today is that the Israelis have the power and they are abusing their power. They are morally responsible to find a true, humane, permanent solution for the Palestinians EVEN IF those Palestinians hate them, attack them, and don't share their religion. To go Spiderman on them, with great power comes great responsibility. Israelis now have that power.

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Entity13 posted...

Every time I heard the main FF theme in XII, I felt like it was some desperate beggar screaming, "I'M FINAL FANTASY! I'M FINAL FANTASY! I'M FINAL FANTASYYY...!" before degenerating into tears over the broken dream of what could have been.

Yeah, that. :)

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EvilMegas posted...

I actually like almost everything about 12.

-If you set your gambits right you could essentially autobattle.
-The story was okay, nothing groundbreaking but it was engaging.
-The setting was cool, the enemies are cool.

The characters are hit and miss. If you didn't like Tidus and Yuna you'll especially hate Vaan and penelo

Also bunny girls

You are entitled to your opinion. For my part:
1) I find autobattle boring
2) I find Fran very unappealing: I would be creeped out if such a "person" hung out around me.
3) Lots of recent games have beautiful settings...but not much of interest to do.
4) I didn't hate Vaan and Penelo. I just found them uninteresting, which might be worse.
I loved that they used the old Prologue in the prologue. After that...........eh.

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agesboy posted...

they have been doing this for a long time and it hasn't been working

Not in my memory, no. I'm talking about mass demonstrations where a huge group of people, for example, walks across a border without yelling or violent actions. Or sits quietly in some Jewish portion of Jerusalem. Something big enough that it's disruptive (and catches the media's attention) without being a yelling/screaming/violent event. Ghandi-style stuff. THAT would be their best tactic, and I do not see them trying such things on a large enough scale and consistent enough basis to be effective.

Portions of the west definitely (and increasingly, the further we get from WWII and the longer this stretches out) care, and those elements will have more power to act if they don't appear to be acting in support of terrorism. Is it fair for the Palestinians to have to wait for that? No, but reality isn't fair: it's just reality.

It's disingenuous to pretend that the Palestinians have always (or are currently) acting perfectly: they have their own flaws. They are clearly the wronged party in 2021, though.

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EclairReturns posted...

I don't understand why American politics are relevant there.

Well, that's the seamless "beauty" of confederate flags/Trumpism. If all you want to do is give people the middle finger you don't need to be logical. In fact, logic is usually one of the things they're giving the middle finger to.

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Mead posted...

dude the Palestinians living in that region dont even have a government or representation

Well, yes, they have leadership that they vote for (PLO, Hamas, whatever). Those governments are just as much resistance (and terrorist) organizations as they are governments, which is not particularly surprising given the situation...although the terrorism can't be condoned. There is wide support for the terrorism among the Palestinians: it's incorrect to believe that it's just a few bad actors. Buut...

Ferarri619 posted...

...And you would be okay with your government placing those rockets right by your house and by other innocent people, including children, using all of you as a sacrifice so that government can play victim?

The actions are wrong. There would be better ways for the Palestinians to gain attention for their plight (mass non-violent demonstrations, etc). But focusing on individual actions linked to a broader situation (even if they are terrorist actions) is classic political misdirection. Look how wrong my opponent is: that's terrible! (And while the media is eating this up I'll use the opportunity to repress them further)

In short, Netanyahu is playing victim no less than the Palestinians...and probably more in the grand scheme of things. The Jews were horrific victims in WWII (and plenty of other times in history) but that doesn't give them a permanent right to play the victim card in every situation.

Anyways, to focus on the limited question: would *I* be happy to have rockets fired from near my house? No, but I'm not in a similar situation. It seems that the Palestinians are fed up enough to believe that they all need to be a part of the resistance and accept some casualties. They continue to vote for their leadership. Also, the alternative to firing rockets from urban areas is to fire them from the desert (and be identified/killed immediately without cover). That also does not seem terribly realistic. Again, though: the rocket/response cycle is NOT the problem. The living/political conditions are the problem.

xcrimx posted...

Ottoman Syria would never have let this happen

Maybe not. But they were weak and ineffective. And if they WEREN'T weak they might still have been attacking their Christian neighbors and selling people from the cities they conquered into slavery.

If you look back into history you eventually realize that nobody has their hands clean. The point is to deal with the here and now...

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Ferarri619 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/261-politics/79451769/953838476

This post

It is wrong to launch rocket attacks on civilian areas and some level response is needed. (That response should NOT be launching bigger bombs back to kill more people, however) Either way, focusing ONLY on responding to rocket attacks ignores the larger issue of why those attacks are occurring. If Israelis ignore that issue indefinitely then, yes, Palestinians are going to continue to be frustrated (despair?) and some of them, yes, will act out. Acting out by killing someone is wrong, but it is predictable human nature in a repressed population.

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Well...for me, no. I like the traditional FFs. FF12 has a got of game, but I don't find any of it very interesting. The story is kinda dull, exploration is broken (no fixed good treasures), there's no Nobuo music, everything is grindy, and combat just involves simple programming. None of that really caught my attention.

But $25 isn't a terrible price if you want it as a time-waster.

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Metalsonic66 posted...

Just looking at that makes me sad.

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MrMelodramatic posted...

gaza commander killed

Well, good job Israel: I'm sure that will effectively stop the attacks and stop others from attacking in the future. Furthermore, the expression of power will no doubt intimidate the entire Palestinian people into acceptance of their living conditions.

*this post includes extreme sarcasm, for those who don't have a sarcasm meter*

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Putting everything else aside (and there's a lot of "everything else") the only way this ends is if Israel works towards a reasonable solution for the Palestinians. Regardless of how things ended up the way that they are, Israel now has control of both the land and the power. However, they will never have peace, because they are effectively forcing many people to live in random patches of land with limited rights. Even if the Palestinians were 100% at fault for how things have turned out that simply is not a situation that will ever be stable. The history, as "rich" as it is, simply doesn't matter in that equation.

The truth is that Israel has no intention of ever giving Palestinians equal rights in a "one state" solution because if Palestinians had full voting rights Israel's government would be voted out. Demographics strongly favor the Palestinians. But Israel's religious fundamentalists strongly oppose a two-state solution. So: Israel's politicians can talk a good game about Palestinians needing to drop their opposition to Israel's existence etc etc...but it's fake. Israel has shown no willingness to work towards a real solution. They have the power to implement a solution and, if done in good faith, would have the backing of the rest of the world to deal with the Palestinians who didn't accept it. But they have not made a good faith effort in years (or possibly ever, depending on your point of view).

Maybe a new government will come to power there and try someday. Until then, it's unclear why the West would want to continue to ally themselves with a country that is, yes, friendly and relatively powerful in an unfriendly region...but also one of the primary CAUSES that the region continues to be unfriendly. The West owed an enormous debt to Jewish people following WWII, but this is no longer the way to pay that debt back (if it ever was).

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Weve been buying filet whenever its on sale at Costco, and - when on sale - its frankly costs about 2/3rds as much as McDonalds for us. ($20 meal vs $30)

Cover with salt, sear the outsides for 2 minutes each, then stick directly in the preheated oven up to 130ish degrees. Excellent.

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Yeah, I get it, but on the other hand you still have the whole game left to play! :)

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I had to balance out the honest answers above in case this was indirect trolling. :)

It was probably about co-op, though...

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DragonClaw01 posted...

Outside of the thirty year old crisis when you realize half your friends are pretty much middle managers at their work, have a wife, kids and even a mortgage payment while you are still working the same crummy job you did in your twenties and just barely moved out of your parents house, peachy.

Wait, are you envying the first group? Being a middle manager parent with a mortgage isn't as glamorous as you might assume. :)

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This question sounds rather loaded.

Yes. It's also a decent game if you have a pet dolphin, play tight end in the NFL, or have a unique ability to digest metals.

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Star Ocean, considering SO5 probably killed it.

...but if it's too soon, then Dark Cloud.

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Whee...this sounds fun.

What can I add here? Well, first, I agree with everyone who's saying that we shouldn't legislate morality. Religion has it's place, and it's place doesn't involve pushing morality via laws.

Laws should be based on what is good for society. Is prostitution good for society? Well, it's a profession that could support people with few skills...that's good. It carries definite public health risks, so oversight/licensing would definitely be necessary to prevent STD outbreaks/etc...not as good, but not so bad to make it illegal.

Would it have a significantly bad effect on families? Families are indeed a good thing on the whole: they support both kids, aging spouses/parents/etc, extended family such that society does not have to as much as they would otherwise. Would families break apart if, for example, a man didn't feel a need to stay married to continue his sex life? On the contrary, would they stay together better if the man didn't feel the need to leave his wife because of an unfulfilling sex life? Does sole partner sex build stronger relationships?

We could have some good arguments there. Regardless of the specific answers, though, I don't think you'd ever come to the logical conclusion that prostitution needs to be illegal, though. That falls in the "legislated morality" basket of laws.

As for capitalism, it's better than the alternatives...but it can't be unbridled. Society needs to have a space to discuss both minimum and "maximum" living conditions and government needs to tax and provide for that appropriately. We're a million miles away from that, unfortunately.

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Lokarin posted...

y'all are cooler

Damn straight.

Anyways, why would the Tet have been a good reason to stay? In military terms (numbers) the US won the Tet offensive handily. In strategic terms the US lost, mostly because the Veit Cong had a plan (just keep fighting and we'll win: enough people here support us) and the US didn't (just keep fighting because of...sunk costs, lost French pride, and/or the bunk theory of containment?) And increasingly the US media and public wasn't willing to support the costs in dollars and deaths. Eventually the US had to call a spade a spade and admit they were never going to establish a friendly government there unless they held a trillion-dollar gun to the head of the people living there for the rest of time. Which wasn't going to happen.

Fortunately we took all of the lessons that we learned there and applied them to Afghanistan, where..........oh, wait. Well, at least it's not as if the Russians had learned the lesson in Afghanistan in the '80s and we ignored it...

Maybe blowing up someone's country isn't the best way to win their hearts. (Even if you only meant to blow up small parts)

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I haven't lost anyone but I have a neighbor who is tempted to believe some of the crazier stuff, i.e. China created the virus and released it intentionally on their own population to attack the US...somehow. I can still talk to him rationally, though.

Really, there are a lot of things coming together now:
1) Nobody remembers WWII anymore, which taught multiple generations of people why we need to get along and be a part of something bigger than ourselves. Few of those people are alive or in leadership positions anymore, though.
2) The internet allows people to believe whatever they want and be affirmed by other like-minded people.
3) All local community-building institutions are declining. Say what you will about religion and it's abuses - I won't disagree - but there are (were?) good things about having common community moral oversight (in the instances where it wasn't being abused).

Can we get out of this loop without another WWII-level catastrophe? I'm not terribly hopeful.

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