Lurker > Toxtricity

haha microscopism is definitely my favorite from that album; though i have much less attachment to The 7th Guest than I do myst so i probably listen to the myst remixes on that more, microscopism is the one where while i'm listening i'm the most into it for sure

also I'm not tooo surprised to see the long intro on that Oneohtrix Point Never one drag it down, glad you liked the rest of it though, was really hoping you would! I would recommend listening to the whole Garden of Delete album if you liked the rest of that particular song though, whole thing has a very distinct style and definitely that repetitive intro is out of the ordinary for it. There's some other OPN stuff I'd recommend too but go with Garden of Delete first i'd say. i know you listened to some other stuff before as well

as for the Jacob Collier one---jacob is normally not even close to that overtly weird so in context of the rest of the album, that track stands out a lot, though there's actually an even stranger one that's frustratingly even SHORTER (and almost picked that one instead):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOCbkL63CKU
and i really wish he'd make something that's like full 4-5 minute songs or whatever in the style of these weird ones. because it's so frustrating that some of the most perfect music to me is relegated to these tiny songs relative to all his much more normal longer stuff (and to be clear i like jacob collier in general well enough, but these strange electronic ones interest me much more than anything else he does)
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Raetsel_Lapin posted...

: I dont know why the video title and nominated name are so different, but alright.

there's like 4-5 different tracknames for every song between every release/translation/etc of this soundtrack. on top of the game being called both threads of fate/dewprism haha.

rasdan is actually a weird translation of 'final dungeon', which is also known as 'to the ultimate relic' and "valen's fortress"
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Hideaki Kobayashi - Winter Suite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLz8v8yp5Y0
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Haken - Falling Back to Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XKPW0XVXe4
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aww one of my fav zelda songs tho not too surprised to see it this low in any list lol. tbh i'd like it more with different instrumentation myself, also it sounds a bit better in game i feel, the bubbly/clicky sound is way less pervasive when it's not the only thing your ears are hearing (and it gets cooler and slightly trippier with pitch bends and things than this version that cuts off before it's even all the way done)

anyway it plays toward endgame, one of the last weird dungeon areas that's like really deliberately monotonous for disorientation, music fits pretty well but a fake ganon battle theme replaces it pretty much every room so you won't be hearing this track too long all at once if you're progressing at a normal pace.
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tbh knowing the context of kohri i would have never guessed it plays to what it does based on the music lol. (i'm with nfun on it being my fav song from vol 6)
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GATLING CARAPACES, another one i wasn't expecting to be high; in this case mostly because i know you don't typically like this sort of instrumentation. but i felt like nominating it anyway because i've been addicted to listening to it hehe. i actually didn't read the description to know it was a remix of a bunch of different things, that's pretty interesting!
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haha i actually predicted right that plasma would be my lowest ranked in the main ranking i guess (tho i guessed it'd be aversion to a really pulsing beat, which you actually didn't mention at all!)
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Mike + The Mechanics - Silent Running
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmGByG1FKhQ

clipping. - Story 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbU9UUwxBxA
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Knower - Hanging On
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLZJ-0IP9bY
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Hiatus Kaiyote - Breathing Underwater
Hideaki Kobayashi - Seashore Probe ~ Wopal (Battle)
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oh shoot i forgot to support haken-atlas stone last topic like i intended, sorry snake : (
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Bjrk - Joga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XATCQ_SGnw

might be a stretch, but especially because of the official music video i always think of this as representing earth as an element
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loB0kmz_0MM

regardless it's probably my favorite piece of music that actually has lyrics of all time so i'm picking it lol
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Hiatus Kaiyote - By Fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ilr1AY41AA

i wouldn't be able to decide between [Pat Metheny Group / Protest the Hero / Mitsuharu Fukuyama] if all 3 had made the poll. maybe lucky that only one of those did even if nfun's probably the only one in this topic series who'd care about that track as much as me. seeing Jethro Tull make the poll makes me happy too even if it's not a track from them i'd pick. really stacked day basically.
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Ecco the Dolphin - Ice Zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIiSuXsHZpE
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Oneohtrix Point Never - Mutant Standard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be67Sb4S-ec

Bjrk - Vertebrae By Vertebrae
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqxYw5jIneA

Brainscapes - Organica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjUyUgOuKag

Jethro Tull - Clasp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS4tuGQsKNY

normally i try to not repeat things i've nominated in the past for other people too often, but most of the things that are coming to mind for this topic are things i've nominated for other people before. hopefully that works out!

originally i was going to dig into the much more obscure, things i'd have to upload that are like nowhere else online, but i'll save those ideas for some other time
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Mitsuharu Fukuyama - Realization ~ Train Gidran
Pat Metheny Group - Last Train Home
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between the buried and me - white walls
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Jethro Tull - Black Sunday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMIPich_jBI

i think i picked this one for the day of the week topic but now i am picking it here too even though it fits it less well
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Rush - Losing It
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j0AyWbAbrc
(about Ernest Hemingway, if unclear)
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oh i didn't even realize place had nominated that for you before, whoops! maybe i shouldn't be surprised (i only know of that song, because of place!)

glad you liked it more on a re-listen! and i totally see the vsnares comparison haha. it's like steve reich music becoming distorted and more glitchy/idm in that venetian snares-like vein
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Dream Theater - The Dance of Eternity
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"Dog" by Moby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ky3CSfMUa0
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U.K. - Thirty Years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LknxHv6mju4
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Dream Theater - 6:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElgXCB4exGU
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remove
- Windows 95 | Startup Sound

New Nomination
+ Digimon Savers Another Mission | Enemy defeated | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjmNv0WNDg8

as nostalgic and fond in every way as i am for the w95 startup sound. feel this is a better use of my noms

removing something that was pushing the definition in one way, for something that's pushing the definition kinda in another way (just that it's long-ish multipart but not as bad in that way as some things nominated)

i've not gotten a chance to play this game yet but this track is:

- by my favorite vgm composer (kimihiro abe)

- from my favorite series/fictional universe in general maybe (digimon is potentially my favorite series of anything ever in any medium, even more than pokemon, though it's a close race)

- AND this is like a contender for my literal favorite song in the game even though it is a ""jingle"", i think maybe the only thing nominated so far where i would say the jingle i am nominating is actually my favorite song in the game potentially (actually no it's not because of the granblue fantasy one i guess)

just hits so many things i love at once and just happens to be enemy defeated jingle thingy in a digimon game, i cant not nominate it for this! glad i remembered it could work for this
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remove
- Aurora Memoria: Philosophical Data Session 2093 | DV-i Logo

add to supporting
+ Eastern Mind: The Lost Souls of Tong-Nou | Soulless Awakening
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1. PSO2
2. Sonic Shuffle
3-???. i dunno i totally changed my order of favorite things recently, i decided so i have to figure it out again.

sonic shuffle held the title from ~2015-2020, but after finally listening to all ~37hrs of pso2 music, can confidently say it's my favorite ost.

Both soundtracks for basically the same reason--diverse but still an overarching distinct sound i seek--stylistically cohesive focused osts that happen to contain pretty much every unrelated type of music I enjoy in them at the same time (particularly combinations of traits that aren't common to find fused together: edm mixed with avant-prog especially is not something you see almost ever. and both explore a wide range from the very artificial to the very natural, often in combination, which is also important to me. simultaneous hypnotic minimal repetition and overstimulating dense complexity is another combo that can be difficult to find but it's present in spades in both soundtracks (I guess that is kinda implied by "both edm and prog")).

PSO tbh mostly only takes the claim for favorite because it has so much music but i probably like sonic shuffle more consistently

after that some big hits but not confidently ordered:
Opoona
Coded Soul
Caravan Stories
Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Gates to Infinity
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time/Darkness/Sky
Shining Wisdom
Wachenroder
Ar Tonelico II
Border Down
Senko no Ronde DUO
Einhander
Zero Divide 2
Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Super Paper Mario
Panzer Dragoon Orta

but the list goes on forever. I listen to a stupidly huge amount of vgm and this is just the tip of the iceberg of vgm that makes me happy! : )
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i could not finish playing banjo kazooie because i thought the music was just too cheesy and fake and stupid and eventually couldn't stand playing it anymore. i love the game in every other way but wish like literally anyone else had done the soundtrack, just totally ruined it for me. the composition isn't even horrible, cartoony stuff is fine, it's just the fakeness and monotony of it all. maybe i'd like it if the instrumentation was more like super paper mario (one of my favorite soundtracks ever) or something

there's other game music / full soundtracks i like much less, but none i'm aware of where it's to a type of game i'd normally love that much, so i have a more personal frustration with banjo kazooie than anything else
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i am very bad at video games honestly i just like playing them because they are fun : )

mostly i just have really poor dexterity so i'm mostly only good at things like "puzzle games" and "adventure games" but even in those i'm not actually good at in terms of speed/skill at solving puzzles or anything, i just have more patience for them than other people seem to so then people are impressed that i beat them without a walkthrough even though i take 8x as long as other people to solve them it feels

(this said, i am strangely good at games that are known for being "difficult dexterity challenges" like super monkey ball, or things like weird speedrun tricks or kirby air ride vehicles that have intentionally bad controls or things like that. I think maybe it's just that my fine motor skill is SO poor, unfamiliar with what is supposed to be "natural" in the first place, that things that are "unusual" dexterity experiences aren't actually any harder than "normal" motor skill control? that's always been my theory for why there are these arbitrary feeling exceptions)
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ok removing
- MiNi GOLF master 2 | Holly Hill 1

Supporting:
Lenny's Music Toons | Techno 8 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HlY8S4BYyI
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i wish i had waited long enough to post to be able to see gamebop's post lol. absolutely supporting lenny music toon techno 8 after i decide what to replace with that
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finally went through everything so far so here is a supports !

Undertale | Live Report | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yctddrOFtGc

VA-11 HALL-A: Cyberpunk Bartender Action | CALICOMP 1.1 Shutdown | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSkuaGEDjBE

Pokmon Dream Radar | Transfer | https://youtu.be/AWg7OElsa7U

and that puts me at 15.

there's some other things i'm looking at, and i'm sure something else i'll like will get nominated too. i probably will only remove my own supports for things that are getting 0 support so let me know if you're considering something i picked that has no one else supporting it other than me right now, so i don't remove it when the time comes.
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oops actual new ones because of a conversations oh no i am running out of SLOTS. i've been holding off on supporting most things because i want to listen to them all first even if there's certainly things nominated i've seen that i know i like

+ Super Monkey Ball 2 | Story Mode: Scene 4 ~Song 6~ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEwPdykGiYg
+ Burn:Cycle | TENSE 29 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA6tiu-aKYw

(there's no actual title for that short burn:cycle loop as far as i am aware so i am making one up~! seems like it could be a track title for a cyberpunk game and is relevant)
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Venetian Snares - Dad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRZF24JDMgQ
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Windows 95 | Startup Sound | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miZHa7ZC6Z0
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stupid question can windows startup jingles count as "game system startup jingles"
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some things to start with

Jewel Master | The Dream's Over | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0_lc0p0tl4
Aurora Memoria: Philosophical Data Session 2093 | DV-i Logo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzXIie3jIiU
Aurora Memoria: Philosophical Data Session 2093 | Packet Loss | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRuBkzieyr4
Senko no Ronde DUO | results | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEQyP_R0s1w
Einhnder | Moonlight | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USXDgqPC07w
Sonic CD (US) | Zone Clear | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOcCahFYWKk
MiNi GOLF master 2 | Holly Hill 1 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t89_sttW80s
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supporting : )

Phantasy Star Online 2 - TULA DERUCCION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCKwapZwrUQ
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well this one was already on my list so that's good. not sure if i'll put the time in to actually nominate the things that are floating around in my head but i at least want to support this one:

Granblue Fantasy Versus | Game Over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxaNKfkBF7s
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imagine what would happen if place+me got azure arbitator. you do not want to know
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i'd have given Byway of Departure like high 7 or 8 haha. very glad that at least one person who really loves it got it so it could get a chance to be this high!
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well THERE IT IS. Central Tower "Axis-Piller", my 2nd favorite piece of music of all time (a big reveal, as i have not stated this to be the case anywhere yet. because of this topic haha). I could go on about it (and maybe will later if i get more time) but it'd all be stuff you'd expect me to say anyways and i kinda summarized it in the writeup. but it's just at near maximum level everything i want music to do at the same time and i am overjoyed that something like it exists. Thank you wataru ishibashi!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(i'm also grateful and surprised it managed to score and rank this high; but i see that that is pretty much entirely on me haha. giving out 10s have a lot more power than one would expect i guess!)
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i like broadway musicals : ) and i like uhhh, dragonforce sometimes i think (i am more of an expert on other types of metal that are not power metal)
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music theory is mostly useful so you can say

"when the maj7 chord modulates up a half step"

instead of saying

"when the one note and the one note 4 notes above the first note and the one note 3 notes above that one, and the one note 4 notes above that one are all being played at the same time and then all four of those notes get played a second time but are moved up by the note one note above them on the keyboard"

to mean the exact same thing.

its shortcuts based on observed patterns to make music easier to talk about. but knowing the language of music theory doesn't actually mean any tastes or preferences you have are any better/worse. or even that you understand the music any more/less. it just means you can put a name to common (or uncommon) patterns and traits that show up in music; whether or not those traits are things you like

and you can observe those exact same patterns without knowing the names for them, and certainly even if you never think about things beyond vague things like atmosphere/emotion or whatever, you are still impacted by those patterns and have preferences that can be described through theory. you just may happen to describe your interest in a different way. but it doesn't mean you even understand music less, it just means you either don't know the shortcut names for the patterns that interest you, or that your focus is in areas less detail-centric.

i'm basically painfully detail-centric in any interest i have; and music luckily has a language that can make it more convenient to talk about tiny details in it. so i know it adequately in-depth. and i usually assume that if someone's reading what i'm saying and they don't know what i'm talking about they can just look up words or concepts if they want to.

but when i'm talking about things i like in games? there's all sorts of things i like that could probably be described more conveniently but i don't have an existing language with shortcuts to do so. i'll make wacky flowcharts of game structure or whatever to describe what i enjoy on that front, but certain concepts could be described in single words that don't exist (at least not that i'm aware of). and what i will express in THOSE settings is /more convoluted/ than anything i'm able to more concisely express thorough 'music theory words'

i suppose 'being really detail-centric' is actually part of why i'm attracted to this community actually, even if i consider myself out of place here in many ways. excessive stats analysis and discussion of the tiniest trivial details of /everything/ being such a norm in every project it makes me so happy~!
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Leanansidhe posted...

I have no idea what any of this means, so my music ranking may not be the most professional thing in the world.

i mean anything i say is just based on personal taste lol; i could use the same types of words, with the same level of positivity to describe music that's to someone else's preference but i absolutely hate. i like to talk in ways that focus on details that sometimes require weird music-theory-nerd centric language to be as precise as i'd like to convey. but that doesn't mean that the things i have to say are like 'fact' and indicative of 'knowing more about music' or anything, they're just my taste. They're still just as preference as any other preference. sorry if it comes off as pretentious or confusing, it's just how i talk, which i know some people don't get or like, but is usually the best way to describe what i personally focus on when listening.

also nfun is just quite aggressive about his opinions! In this case i very much agree with how nfun feels about aiming to the future and the evo version. Sometimes i don't agree with nfun! and then the way nfun will talk will make me sad! luckily this is not one of those times.
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rip Aiming for the Future, legit my 2nd favorite falcom song (at least the original version). some of the peak of both ishibashi's really cool rhythmically playful style and tendency towards the types of chords/progressions i love. that transpose-y first minute is just one of my favorite things. the [3+3+3+3+4]/4 rhythms that really ambiguify barlines and downbeats are exactly what i love. the INSTRUMENTATION is so me. It is like if my favorite obscure "Uru: To Dn'i / Uru: Ages Beyond Myst / Myst Online: Uru Live /etc" song called "islmLibraryMusic_Loop.ogg" (a song most myst fans don't care about) was arranged to be like a much more energetic theme for a futuristic dungeon in a place floating in the sky in a jrpg from 2004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bOMgUTR4_U

the evo arrange is maybe my least favorite evo arrange of any in the entire series i know of. if only because it's destroying a piece of music i love, and making into something i have difficulty being able to stand listening to. i enjoy the base composition a TON though, so i would still probably give it like 9.9/4, if it were a song i was given to rate. i would technically rather listen to other evo arranges less, because i like the source composition less in other things, but which evo arrange pisses me off and makes me the most sad? absolutely aiming to the future.
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whoa Schwarz Auction is not the kind of song i would expect anyone to rate 9.9, maybe not even nfun, but i think it is very good. i would have given it at least a 7
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oh whoa Firm Strength is COOL
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The Tree at the Farthest End : ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (
that (maybe unsurprisingly?) is an 8+ for me
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