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TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/12/20 10:53:20 AM
#372
LeonhartFour posted...
Virtually no one had him going #1 though, and it's extremely rare in the NBA to have the #1 pick be a surprise!

Also keep in mind that there's more to being a poorly run organization than team record. The record is often a reflection of it, but not always. The Cavs were still making bad decisions even when Lebron was there! There's a reason why Lebron left both times. The Knicks had a few years of success when Melo was still in his prime, but that doesn't mean they aren't the worst run organization in any sport because they are.

I agree! But I don't think it was that absurd of a pick considering the 2013 draft was a mess

I agree again! Hence why the Bulls were trash even when Jordan was there despite all the winning, and why I don't give them much credit for the Rose years because picking him was a no-brainer. To be honest this discussion is kind of pointless though because we're really just arguing over the word "much" worse. At least we can agree on LOL Knicks though

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TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/12/20 10:30:02 AM
#370
Leonhart4 posted...
Oh, the Cavs are much worse.

Drafting Anthony Bennett as the first pick when literally no one thought he was the best player in the draft alone makes them much worse.

The Bulls have been a poorly run organization pre and post Jordan, but they haven't done anything that bad.

Bennet was still projected to be a lottery pick though, even top 5 in most mocks. It's not like they took a projected second rounder or something

and hey, they ended up trading him for Kevin Love so it all worked out!

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TopicWho do you think is the greatest ever? Your mom or your dad?
MZero
10/12/20 9:43:49 AM
#5
my dad sucks

easy win for mom here

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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 5
MZero
10/12/20 5:51:10 AM
#64
I might just copy jcsister picks for the rest of the season

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TopicWho do you think is the greatest ever? lebron or jordan?
MZero
10/12/20 4:55:46 AM
#3
DoubleOSnake posted...
which? i'm talking about comparing their play in their prime, not career accomplishments

Lebron's prime is already over so this Championship means nothing imthe context of this topic, actually!

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TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/12/20 3:38:16 AM
#368
TheRock1525 posted...
Also, the Bulls at least did some stuff post-Jordan. From 2004 to 2017 the made the playoffs all but 2 seasons.

The Cavs, in their entire existence, have only 2 ECF appearances that don't involve LeBron and no Finals appearances. You have to go back to 1997 to find a season where the Cavs had a winning record without LeBron. And in the 6 years where LeBron was still in the league but not on the Cavs, they won 25 or less games 5 times, including winning only 19 games 3 times.

Chicago is a bad organization.
Cleveland should just straight up be eliminated.

That isn't really fair. It took the Bulls 6 years to get back after Jordan retired, and we haven't seen the Cavs six years after Lebron yet cause he came back after 4 years last time, and they were already up to 33 wins which was better than the Bulls managed 4 years after the last dance.

The Bulls have a whopping 3 ECF appearances without MJ and no finals appearances. Again, Cleveland is worse but not by a wide margin

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TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/12/20 3:25:56 AM
#367
StealThisSheen posted...
Ehhh

The Bulls a season after Jordan still made the playoffs
The Cavs a season after LeBron only won 19 games

Yes, Pippen was good, and despite the front office's best efforts, he managed to stay on the team. They were hot garbage in 1999 when they finally managed to get rid of him, and they've been bad ever since, except when the lucked into Rose in 2008. But they get as much credit for drafting Rose as Cleveland does for drafting Lebron

To be clear I'm not trying to say the talent was comparable because it wasn't. But the Bulls front office was and is very bad

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TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/12/20 1:19:11 AM
#363
StealThisSheen posted...
Are we equating the Cavs to the Bulls

Oh no the Cavs are worse

But not by much!

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TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/11/20 10:55:23 PM
#352
TheRock1525 posted...
If Miami wins that 2003 lottery instead of Cleveland, he's got 6-8 championships.

He promised that many when he did go to Miami and came up very short! And he wouldn't have Wade or Bosh in that hypothetical scenario

Also the Bulls were a joke franchise before Jordan and he still won 6 soooo

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TopicLooks like I'll finally be finishing my Stream of Paper Mario
MZero
10/11/20 10:44:56 PM
#21
Punnyz posted...
thank you!

You're Mr. Yakuza 7 man, right?

Yep!

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TopicLooks like I'll finally be finishing my Stream of Paper Mario
MZero
10/11/20 12:09:37 PM
#14
I can't watch because I haven't beaten it yet and I plan to (eventually) but I followed you!

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TopicWhat's the worst part of a good game?
MZero
10/11/20 12:07:43 PM
#14
Chocobo races in FFX

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TopicRivalry Rumble - Round 4: Pokemon Trainers Red/Blue vs. Good/Evil + Tiebreak
MZero
10/11/20 10:49:01 AM
#20
Red Vs Blue
USA vs USSR

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TopicYour First Thought 130: "Horror gaming icon."
MZero
10/10/20 10:26:27 PM
#51
Dracula

I was disappointed in myself until I remembered Castlevania exists

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 90 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/10/20 10:21:27 PM
#370
I'm just here to say Birth of a God is the best Sephiroth battle theme

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 89 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/10/20 12:32:22 PM
#389
Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Hey Vivi's second win was from pure drive of it being my first contest and wanting to see my favorite final fantasy character win! Along with some great others helping get him there too

Vivi's win will always be tarnished by the stain of coldhearted betrayal #neverforget

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I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru!
TopicRivalry Rumble - Round 4: Mario/Sonic vs. Marvel/Capcom
MZero
10/10/20 10:30:53 AM
#19
Mario vs. Sonic

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TopicATTN: Alpha Males
MZero
10/10/20 3:34:38 AM
#9
My favorite color is pink

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I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru!
TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/10/20 3:32:14 AM
#321
ExThaNemesis posted...
if Davis hurt himself and costs LeBron this series I never want to see him again

Wow you went from Lebron establishing himself as the goat to worrying that he can't win one game without AD awfully quick!

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 89 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/09/20 10:44:30 PM
#338
Mobilezoid posted...
I think this is fine, there's the discord ping after all. I've never understood the rule against @ ing someone in the topic either if they're a regular participant

pretty sure that's just to keep the topic from being full of @ s

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TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/09/20 10:28:16 PM
#297
OKC was favored

The Heat were also heavily favored in 2013 against the Spurs

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TopicNBA playoffs overtime
MZero
10/09/20 10:01:16 PM
#293
ExThaNemesis posted...
LeBron solidifies GOAT status tonight. Who's excited

A lot of players have 4 rings

ExThaNemesis posted...
It's really nice to see LeBron in a finals where he's the overwhelming favorite for once.

You mean other than most of the Miami years?

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 89 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/09/20 9:52:21 PM
#318
andylt posted...
Oh no what happened with that one?? Please get started. (Are literally any of them without illegitimacy arguments >_>)

Don't listen to the Tidus haters it was 100% legit!

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 89 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/09/20 9:50:48 PM
#317
andylt posted...
Sounds like something a cheater would say! Also if all pre-Marche wins are illegit that should free up those 12 folks from the anti-repeat bias. Cecil's time for redemption!

One of those 12 was Vivi though and he already repeated, so make it 11

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TopicList of non-backwards compatible PS4 games released.
MZero
10/09/20 12:50:59 PM
#16
I thought "One" was a game title at first

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TopicB8 NFL Ladder Contest 2020 Week 5
MZero
10/09/20 12:41:27 PM
#33
WickIebee posted...
I must have accidentally erased your name in general, instead of copy/pasting into Level 2. You are indeed in Level 2.

Actually you put me in Level 3. I appreciate the boost but I will earn my way!

Level 2: Panthers
Bonus: No

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TopicYour First Thought 128: "Best online multiplayer ever."
MZero
10/09/20 9:29:58 AM
#69
Super Smash Bros..... Melee

huh

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MZero, to the extreme
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TopicRivalry Rumble - Round 4: Hamilton/Burr vs. Scorpion/Sub-Zero
MZero
10/09/20 9:20:10 AM
#17
Hamilton vs. Burr

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MZero, to the extreme
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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 88 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/09/20 3:09:07 AM
#363
Grimlyn posted...
one of these days y'all will watch the FFCCTCB:The Movie

at least I got Martin, this will be remembered

I will never

Because I'm going to do a playthrough eventually

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TopicBest Level 13: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
MZero
10/09/20 1:05:37 AM
#20
Snowpeak Ruins
City in the Sky
Arbiter's Grounds

Best dungeons (and best game) in the series imo

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 88 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/08/20 8:55:07 PM
#343
Dang it i stayed up late for nothing! Ah well good run

Also you guys haven't been paying attention if you're surprised at moonroof's antics

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 88 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/08/20 1:40:05 PM
#129
Emet-Selch

Good night friends I hope I awake to good news

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MZero, to the extreme
I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru!
TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 88 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/08/20 1:34:56 PM
#116
alright then!

Trading for Tidus auto

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 88 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/08/20 1:17:11 PM
#86
Andy/Martin do you want to do the NR today or tomorrow?

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 88 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/08/20 12:35:58 PM
#55
Tidus

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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 5
MZero
10/08/20 12:19:28 PM
#27
bunch of cowards in this topic

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TopicB8 NFL Ladder Contest 2020 Week 5
MZero
10/08/20 11:18:41 AM
#6
I think I should be on level 2

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TopicBlack Friday begins Oct 13th this year
MZero
10/08/20 9:35:10 AM
#3
Black Friday on a Tuesday

in October

what

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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 5
MZero
10/08/20 7:53:28 AM
#24
jcgamer107 posted...
for posterity: my sister went Ravens, Chiefs, Colts, Rams, and is now going Seahawks

feeling better about my pick now

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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 5
MZero
10/08/20 6:23:48 AM
#21
Change to Seattle Seahawks

Not sure the Pats are even going to play!

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 87 [smfffc]
MZero
10/08/20 2:50:45 AM
#409
@andylt if I'm here for H1 I'll cover one of the NRs you owe but don't bank on it cause I probably won't be!

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MZero, to the extreme
I never saw azuarc coming, but he won the Guru!
TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 87 [smfffc]
MZero
10/07/20 8:04:00 PM
#175
Tidus

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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 5
MZero
10/07/20 7:16:09 AM
#7
Patriots

for now

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TopicSave My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXII: Day 84 (RULE CHANGE) [smfffc]
MZero
10/06/20 12:30:30 PM
#466
how about 3:30 to 4:30 PM JST

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TopicYakuza Like a Dragon gonna have the karaoke songs sung in english
MZero
10/06/20 12:11:08 PM
#7
Heroic Bigpun posted...
Wow so it's like chrono trigger almost?

It's more like Persona with a job system

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TopicA new generation of gamers realizing DKC2's subtitle is Diddy's Kong Quest
MZero
10/06/20 11:33:49 AM
#16
I didn't know it even had a subtitle

also

Arti posted...
No, because I didn't care about a bad game



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TopicSave My Waifu I *DAY 58* *FINAL THREE!* [smw] [smwi] *RULE CHANGE*
MZero
10/05/20 12:35:46 PM
#53
Tifa

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TopicSave My Waifu I *DAY 58* *FINAL THREE!* [smw] [smwi] *RULE CHANGE*
MZero
10/05/20 11:21:09 AM
#23
Makoto

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TopicNFL Discussion Topic - Week 4
MZero
10/05/20 8:54:00 AM
#133
Leonhart4 posted...
Friendly reminder that Foles has always been an average QB at best except for that one postseason

he was good in 2013! 27-2 and a 7 touchdown game

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