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| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 1:37:11 PM #326 | cuttin_in_farm posted... Lol were done here. Done before you started, actually. I'll admit tho, I did get a kick watching you go from your "iT's CaLlEd ChIlD sUpPoRt NoT pArEnT sUpPoRt" zinger to unironically claiming we should minimize the support a child receives so their parent only shoulders the minimum financial burden feasibly possible --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:36:10 PM #321 | cuttin_in_farm posted...
Financial aid is a means tested form of state provided welfare. Child support is a legal mandate outlining an individual's minimum level of responsibility for their own children. Being a rich parent doesn't absolve you of that responsibility cuttin_in_farm posted...
It is subjective. Which is why each case is decided in court individually, rather than your "lul jus charge a flat fee" idea. And no, as much as you think "support" should mean "just fine", the best interests of the child, the state, and society in general means maximizing the child's well-being relative to their parents ability to pay. It doesn't lie in letting kids scrape by with the bare minimum so that daddy can spend his money watches in clothes instead of paying for his kid since he's making more money than he was 10 years ago cuttin_in_farm posted...
No. It's a one conclusion issue. It's about the best interests of the child. Period. Not about minimizing the financial responsibility of the parent so that they can keep feeding their kid a diet of bread and water so they aren't forced to provide their kid the better outcomes their higher level of income affords them. cuttin_in_farm posted... Please stop being condescending. then engage with the arguments instead of accusing me of not responding to you --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:07:54 PM #317 | cuttin_in_farm posted... Respond to any of these please. You keep bringing up one point in my posts and attacking it when I dont really give a shit about rich dudes. Their well being isnt the point. My post addresses all of these. if you need me to make it even simpler let me break it down for and spell it out in as easy to understand terms as I can. 1:Child support payments are based on the child's needs and how able you are to meet those needs. If you have a greater financial ability, guess what? You'll be expected to make a greater contribution to the child's well-being. 2:Child support payments are not meant to be insignificant financial burden for the parent. Supporting a child is a serious personal and financial responsibility. Child support decisions are not made with the priority to protect the parent from experiencing any economic impact on their personal finances. The priority is to provide the maximum benefit to the child possible that the parent is reasonably able to provide. If you think a poor parent is having their income "siphoned" unfairly and that transaction is a major hardship to them, imagine how much more hardship the "leeches" you call children face on their end of the transaction. Yes, being poor in america is a horrorshow. But even in countries with better social programs and lower levels of poverty, parents are STILL expected to take financial responsibility for their kids. Now, lemme know if you need me to spell it out even further for you --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 11:40:14 AM #314 | cuttin_in_farm posted... Geez, yall are hostile. Child support payments are based on what a court decides are in the best interests of the child, and the ability of the parent paying child support to pay. It is not and should not be based on accommodating wealthy men who think it's unfair they have to pay money to support their child if the mother isn't destitute. --- |
| Topic | Minnesota PD issues statement on arrest of CNN crew |
| Frolex 05/29/20 11:34:18 AM #6 | It's a good point, they really needed a mob of riot cops arrest the whole crew to make sure they were media. The camera crew, press badge, them having cleared their presence with the police beforehand, and the police being within earshot of the reporter as he was making his report on camera were all too ambiguous. --- |
| Topic | It's weird that Rockstar stopped using celebrities in GTA games |
| Frolex 05/29/20 11:25:22 AM #11 | Games in general (with the exception of Kojima) have started to shift away from getting a-listers to voice characters, for a number of reasons. They cost significantly more, they have stage or screen experience but less VO or performance capture/mocap experience (and all are disciplines that stress different skill sets for an actor), and video game acting and actors who specialize in it are gaining more recognition on their own merits. What this adds up to is that hiring an a-lister costs a lot more for a return that's at either only just as good or worse than hiring someone with less mainstream recognition, and it just doesn't confer as much prestige to a game among players as it once did (or as we once pretended it did) --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:54:39 AM #311 | haloiscoolisbak posted... Meh, I barely have enough money to afford my own food and rent so whatever. Dog eat dog world I guess dog eat dog world is at least a semi-honest justification for your desire to punish women and children so that you can shield men from responsibility. a more honest justification is that you personally are only concerned for yourself, but we're making progress cuttin_in_farm posted... Im like.... 90% sure the issue with child support is that its seemingly proportional to the guys income. Not that theyre forced to pay. Strange to advocate for what is essentially a flat tax on child-rearing and somehow try to spin it as pro poor, when it necessarily "leeches" more from them than it does from the rich. Almost as strange as trying to paint "supporting the financial needs of the your child" as "leeching" really. --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:39:31 AM #307 | haloiscoolisbak posted... See that's 2 things. I just want power over 1(the right to be a deadbeat dad ideally) The right to let the mother and child languish after you you fail to force the mother into abortion is indeed just one thing --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:32:33 AM #303 | haloiscoolisbak posted... Yeah I know, that's why if I was a women I'd go full Lena Dunham and proudly abort dat shit not even Lena Dunham believes in the dichotomy of "deadbeat dad" or "forced abortion" --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:28:10 AM #301 | haloiscoolisbak posted... When you used a condom it hurts that little bit extra though imagine how much more it hurts to raise a child with a deadbeat dad --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:25:17 AM #298 | haloiscoolisbak posted... If you do, and you're as willing to potentially dish out lifelong CS payments to a girl you've dated a couple of months as you say you are then I guess you won't feel too bad about it if you ever have to face it yeah, paying child support is some fantastic and twisted freak occurrence rather a totally normal thing millions of people already do. --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:18:31 AM #296 | haloiscoolisbak posted... Whatever. If you think men should feel powerless in this situation I won't argue. I don't think women should be allowed to force women to have an abortion either. Stop projecting your obsession with gendering the issue on me. haloiscoolisbak posted... It wasn't a nice feeling though and I hope you don't go through it fortunately, barring significant developments in medicine, I don't think I'll ever have to worry about someone trying to force me to get an abortion --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:13:34 AM #294 | haloiscoolisbak posted... I have a problem with the financial side of the law in its current form The financial side of not letting men force women into abortions, yes we know --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:11:27 AM #292 | haloiscoolisbak posted... Yeah I agree that is the current law. And I think it's a dumb law So then you do have a problem with women not getting abortions. Why would you lie to me like this? --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:09:28 AM #289 | haloiscoolisbak posted...
Great, glad you agree children of mothers who didn't have an abortion are still the legal and financial responsibility of both parents, even if the father doesn't like that fact --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 10:00:53 AM #285 | haloiscoolisbak posted... And you think men should be chained to supporting a child that they don't want no matter the circumstances (and sorry I do consider being against abortion for religious reasons total bullshit) Nope, both parents have an equal responsibility to their child. Our difference here is you believe women have the responsibility to acquiesce to a man's demand for an abortion --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 9:55:29 AM #282 | haloiscoolisbak posted...
Like you would know if anyone had ever taught you to read, the only people i care about "shielding" in this situation are the children. If a woman wants to be delinquent on her child support payments, the state should step in too. You on the other hand believe that women deserve to languish if they don't let their partner force them into an abortion --- |
| Topic | Alright, who gave the official White House Twitter password to Trump? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 9:47:05 AM #5 | literally logged on to an alt to repost a modded message. there are trolls here with more maturity --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 9:43:56 AM #279 | haloiscoolisbak posted... so you acknowledge it's one or the other - great. someone has to lose out here. biology isnt fair or whatever was the buzzphrase a few pages back. No, it's not one or the other, it's about the child. Full stop. You're just obsessed with shielding men, and only men, from responsibility because in your world a woman not having an abortion is irresponsible. --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 9:36:16 AM #276 | haloiscoolisbak posted... i don't know it was meant to be a parody of your stupid spin on things - i guess my intention was implying young males living in impoverished communities shouldn't be chained to a child support payment if they wanted female x to get an abortion but female x was scared of abortions for religious reason or something. men in impoverished communities shouldn't be "chained" to feeding their kid, but women and children in impoverished should instead be chained to languishing under a deadbeat dad because you don't like women's reasons for not pursuing abortion. yeah, why would anyone accuse you of having weird attitudes towards women. --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 9:25:51 AM #272 | haloiscoolisbak posted... What a spin on this - how about I spin it to bankrupting minorities who don't have easy access to contraception? What do you mean? You're already saying this is what should be done to women who don't have abortions. --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 9:21:18 AM #270 | Nah, I might actually find your position on child starvation weirder if you had trolled about murder instead. --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 9:14:59 AM #268 | It would be strange to see someone try to spin the law requiring you not to let your child starve into the state "punishing" someone for having sex. It would be strange if that person didn't also troll about rape. --- |
| Topic | Holy fuck some CNN news person just got arrested during dose protests |
| Frolex 05/29/20 9:08:05 AM #91 | -White cop murders black man on camera in full view of crowd of witnesses: DA holds live press conference as the city burns explaining he will not be arrested for his crime -Black journalist providing pro police coverage on protests captured on live video and audio feed following all officers instructions and fully complying with the law: arrested along with his entire production crew before he even has time to finish his report Police:"LOL Y PPPL SAY WE HAB DA RASE PRABLM THO?" --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 5:37:41 AM #242 | oh wait i remember now, you're the one who got modded for making that shit topic about how you were skeptical whether rape existed. nevermind, no need for the translator anymore --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 5:35:07 AM #237 | haloiscoolisbak posted... don't pretend you hold the progressive view you pro-lifer anyone got a shitpost-to-english translator to run this through? --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 5:05:54 AM #215 | Tenlaar posted... It objectively is not. How many men in the country are delinquent on and fighting against making child support payments? How many women could tell you stories about being fucked over by the child support system? guess what: women can be delinquent on child support payments too. still has nothing to do with their abortion rights --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 5:04:09 AM #213 | Seriously, when am I getting hooked up with my blind dog, it's the same thing as gay marriage when you think about it --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 5:00:37 AM #207 | Tenlaar posted... Whether you like it or, not saying "men have the same right to an abortion that women have" is the same level of stupid bullshit argument as "gay men have the right to marry any woman they want too!" Tenlaar posted... Oh, well since you said I'm wrong I'm totally convinced now, good job. :^) --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 4:55:13 AM #202 | Tenlaar posted... You mean kind of like how gay people had the same right to marry people of the opposite sex that everybody else had? I guess they shouldn't have been complaining since they had equal rights, just not the same rights, according to your "logic" here. Marriage, it's process, it's institution, and legal protections applies equally to both men and women. Find a way to "logic" yourself into proving the same is true for abortion and men. --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 4:48:31 AM #198 | Men and women have equal rights when it comes to abortion. That doesn't mean they necessarily have the same rights. The instant a man gets pregnant, he'll have just as much right to decide whether or not he gets an abortion and the woman will have the exact same right to make that decision for him. Abortion rights only apply to people that can actually have abortions. Saying that's unfair makes about as much sense as complaining that only blind people get seeing-eye dogs. It's the kind of child's understanding of the world that says we need to give seeing people blind-eye dogs to make up for society's protection of the rights of blind. --- |
| Topic | Cop Explains How It Feels To Live Every Day In Fear... |
| Frolex 05/29/20 3:28:13 AM #1 | ...Someone Might Record You Brutalizing A Civilian https://www.theonion.com/cop-explains-how-it-feels-to-live-every-day-in-fear-som-1819596313 Wow, truly eye-opening stuff --- |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 3:18:45 AM #181 | |
| Topic | If men have no legal say in if women keeps baby, should they HAVE to pay C.S.? |
| Frolex 05/29/20 2:57:05 AM #175 | NinjaBreakfast posted... How did this stupid ass topic get 150+ posts Because "I as a man have the moral right to 'financially abort'" is about as popular of an internet circlejerk as "black people are moral failures because of absent fathers" --- |
| Topic | this fish really like booty |
| Frolex 05/29/20 1:27:21 AM #4 | |
| Topic | Another protest starting in Kentucky for a black woman murdered by police |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:42:12 AM #8 | gamepimp12 posted... The fact that Im not sure if this was the trans man that the police killed, or someone else they killed this week is a problem I'm pretty sure this is the woman that got murdered in her home when the police executed a no-knock raid on the wrong house looking for a suspect that they already had in custody --- |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:36:25 AM #41 | CloneTheHero posted...
You'll be happy to know "the ce board" isn't who decides which posts gets moderated --- |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:31:17 AM #38 | CloneTheHero posted...
I didn't have to twist your argument, whoever decided to put you in the naughty corner for spreading conspiracy theories did that without any help from me. --- |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:28:55 AM #35 | CloneTheHero posted... im not. i spread enough half truths and bald-faced lies about my personal life on gfaqs that id tie you in a knot trying to figure me out. I mean, that much was clear when you tried to imply you had anything more than a 3 inch vertical lol --- |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:19:41 AM #31 | Bro, if you're really this embarrassed about having your posts archived you can ask them nicely to remove your posts from the site for you. having as much of your presence removed from the internet as possible is a win-win for us all --- |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:09:09 AM #29 | CloneTheHero posted... never said they were using it as a ploy. i implied that that was likely the reason why. "It's not a conspiracy theory. It's just a theory I have about a conspiracy." CloneTheHero posted... dunking on you = meltdown HAHAHAHAAH ok. ill let you believe that. Found a pic of your dunk attempt:  --- |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:03:54 AM #26 | CloneTheHero posted... @Frolex and miss out on this meltdown of yours? why would I deprive myself of that? --- |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/29/20 12:02:32 AM #25 | CloneTheHero posted... again, its not conspiracy its fact. feel free to fact check this. where's the facts that prove democrats are facilitating voter fraud exactly? --- |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/28/20 11:57:29 PM #22 | maybe you should have intuitively known posting conspiracy theories and then lying about it was a bad idea if you were going to get this butthurt over it --- |
| Topic | You wake up to see alt right icon doja cat squatting over you |
| Frolex 05/28/20 11:54:35 PM #2 | |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/28/20 11:48:52 PM #19 | CloneTheHero posted... thats not trolling. now i know who snitched on a none TOS violation. thank you and marked didn't see that topic when it was still up, just checked the archived version on that site because I knew you were lying. thanks for confirming my intuition and also confirming your own snitching tho lol --- |
| Topic | Thick thighs save lives |
| Frolex 05/28/20 10:53:38 PM #2 | |
| Topic | Disputed moderation hoping to get more information on how it was against the ToS |
| Frolex 05/28/20 10:30:39 PM #15 | CloneTheHero posted... i got warned on sunday for 'trolling' after supporting voter ID. lol. my mod is clearly intolerant You got warned for claiming opposition to voter ID was a democrat ploy to get undocumented immigrants to vote --- |
| Topic | So if a coloured cop kills a white woman, no riots? |
| Frolex 05/28/20 4:02:33 AM #6 | boxington posted... "coloured" UnholyMudcrab posted... Get off the internet, grandpa --- |
| Topic | This board is to aggressive these days |
| Frolex 05/27/20 5:45:38 AM #25 | it was always pretty aggressive. more of the anger was just funneled towards topics like music or CE clique/e-relationship drama --- |
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