Lurker > andel

bout tree fiddy

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

I Like Toast posted...

And yet none of them exist. Only anyone but trump! Is warren trump? Is yang trump? Is bernie trump? Wow look they all have the only thing Biden has as a reason to vote. No wonder you didn't want address the rest of the post that already includes this so I have to type again for you snowflake

i have dismantled your pathetic attempted points and pointed out your lies (or ignorance).

none of who exist? biden generated record turnout in the '20 primaries. people are overwhelmingly more enthusiastic about biden than clinton or trump. people that don't like either favor biden by 40 points.

you rightfully abandoned the idiotic points you tried to make when i bitchslapped them down, now all you can do is try to make unverifiable claims because you just aren't smart enough to defend your original posts or make a coherent counter. must suck being you lol

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

I Like Toast posted...

Biden is only up because of how badly trump has bundled Corona. Polling as the same or worse than hillary before.

Trump should ge unelectable against anyone, but instead of the DNC using it to leverage their way forward (why is it we have to settle for less with the anyone but trump policy?), they continue to go backward.

Except your laying in that road bleeding out because the dnc ran over you while the gop is testing to see how hot they can make the road. And both I'd them laid down traps to stop the ambulance when you getting you.

Voting for Biden is like getting the bill you're going to get for doing all of that uninsured. Because you aren't poor enough for the DNC and bot rich enough for the gop.

If you want to keep ending up in the road bleeding out, keep voting for the lesser evil.

actually he has polled better than hillary since he became the presumptive nominee and even before that. also biden's favorables are much, much higher than clinton's ever were and people are much more enthusiastic about voting for him

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

WizardPowers posted...

Why should I vote biden instead of just not vote?

I don't really care about trump. My life has remained unchanged throughout his term so far. Outside of covid shit.

the severity of covid in america is directly trumps fault. also, people aside from yourself are greatly effected by trump but idk if you care about others or not

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

I Like Toast posted...

If the dnc would run an electable candide probably 30-50k Americans wouldn't be dead from covid.

How do you lose to trump? Run a corporate stooge.

Or even better if the dnc uses their popular vote majority to eliminate first past the post voting, we wouldn't be choosing between trump or Biden.

So I'll continue to not support the system that allowed trump to win in the first place.

you mean like biden, who is up 14-16 nationally and outside the margin of error in every swing state while leading in many traditionally red states? like biden, who garnered record primary turnout?

and '16 isn't remotely comparable as biden leads by far, far more than clinton ever did

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Antifar posted...

It really isn't. It's something that has to be fought for at every step of the way.

Now, that aside, to the broader discussion:

Voting is something you do for five minutes (+ the time spent in line) in November. It's not something you need to take a blood oath for five months ahead of time.

it is, at least over a period of time. our society is slow at getting there but overall we have always moved towards progress in the long term

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Shablagoo posted...

I hope its obvious I respect you and your opinion but my worry is that an even worse, more conniving version of Trump will come after Biden. The same way Trump somehow managed to rise to power after Obama, maybe a more competent and more hateful Republican will come after Biden.

The solution isnt to vote Trump or not vote Biden, obviously just saying its something Im thinking/worrying about.

i have no problem with you, i think your heart is in the right place like hockey as well.

i think there is a great chance a more sinister trump comes along sooner rather than later. that is who the gop is now and i think cotton could easily be that guy which i think its even more important to consolidate power with the opposition party (democrats).

progressivism is inevitable. each democratic candidate is more progressive than the last. obv bernie would have been vastly superior than biden but the boomers and moderates are still the driving force of the party. the most important thing to me is making sure the gop and trump in particular aren't driving the ship anymore. for every moderate democrat there is now an aoc and the progressive platform is more and more mainstream as each year passes. in 20 years there will be very few boomers and the aoc's of the party will be the driving force

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

I Like Toast posted...

Only if you let him be

Lol. Sure if you're a major corporation. The dnc had actual candidates that represented incremental progress. They battled in the primaries while the dnc got everyone else to drop out for super Tuesday after Biden was polling poorly before. Because our broken voting system means the biggest steaming pile of corporate sponsored shit comes out on top.

My right to vote won't he thrown away to protect the system that makes the choice trump vs Biden or trump vs Clinton. Because that is a fundamentally broken system that fails to serve the people. In 4 more years you'll have another trump that you HAVE TO vote against and you'll keep accepting steaming piles of corporate shit because at least they aren't the other guy. Our guy may be bad, but theirs is worse!

You'd think the dnc would learn people don't want stale corporate bread with nothing to offer like Biden, hillary, Kerry, and gore. People want someone who represents actual change like bill and Obama. Even if they end up not.

You see passionate supporter for warren, yang, aoc, and Bernie. Energized and passionate voters that the gop rallies behind with their green party crazies all the way to trumpers. Is anyone passionate about Biden? Yet, because the corporate overlords want him, here you are going, but hey he isn't trump so I guess I have to keep supporting the broken system.

turns out biden had more passionate support than bernie considering biden set record turnout in the primaries, winning overwhelmingly in states bernie beat clinton in.

we can get progressives if progressives actually get out and vote. change doesn't happen by throwing a tantrum and staying home, it happens by voting in candidates interested in change. someone like biden being elected is a helluva lot better for progress than dipshit donny who will stack the courts both on the federal level and the ussc for generations. if the choice isn't obvious to you by now you probably just aren't paying attention or are willfully ignorant

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Bluebomber182 posted...

his professor called him the stupidest student hes ever had

and his education was bought and paid for. he wont release his grades because he was a horrid student and dumb af

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

nexigrams posted...

Again, "not being Trump," is not good enough. The only way we're ever gonna break this cycle of mediocrity is by telling the establishment that it's not OK to cram garbage candidates down our throats cycle after cycle after cycle.

I'm tired of choosing between awful and horrendous. I'm writing in someone who shares my values. Maybe someone will wise up, get sick of losing elections, and open up the nomination process to outsiders. Ya know, people who vote.

"hitler and hindenburg both suck, being not hitler is not good enough"

actually it is plenty good enough when the other guy is pure evil and taking away rights from people, guilty of treason and getting americans killed through incompetence

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

trump is objectively the lowest iq individual ever to be potus and it isnt close

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

hockeybub89 posted...

Trump's existence is a dealbreaker. That is why I am not voting for him. How in the fuck does that make Biden good? He's a socially conservative warhawk with an already established poor track record. Obviously Biden is better than Trump. A head of lettuce is a better President than Trump, but Lettuce Vs. Trump would still keep me on the sidelines.

"Everyone that doesn't like Biden is an alt-right Trumpeteer white supremacist" is the worst meme to come to CE in 2020.

People were suffering in America before 2016 and they are suffering now. We shouldn't forgive the same politicians and give them a do over just because they look better in comparison. Isn't that a fallacy that Republicans love to parade around? Perfect may be the enemy of good, but "not quite as bad" is the enemy too. If all they need to be is better than Trump, than that's how much effort they'll put in.

if you are waiting for an objectively good candidate to vote for you will just never vote.

people have always suffered in america, guess which party makes it part of their platform to increase that suffering?

not voting for biden is an exercise of extreme privledge as trump and the gop are doing everything they can to make life worse for the most vulnerable people in america. are you black/hispanic/gay/poor? for the vast majority of those people the choice is the difference in losing civil rights and being dehumanizing more and more or being treated like human beings.

going back to the status quo of the obama years may not be a giant leap forward for progress but it is infinitely superior to total regression and the continued erosion of rights for many people

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Bluebomber182 posted...

it wasnt a mistake. trump knew exactly what he was doing by retweeting this

yep, trying to take the focus off of him being implicated in treason with his master vlad

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

shockthemonkey posted...

lmao your gimmick sucks

he will be suspended soon

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Mezcla posted...

i ignore people as soon as i see them active their maga powers and half this topic is gone lmao.

honestly there was one guy that came itt and tried to pussyfoot around defending trump but ran away as soon as it became apparent this wasn't something he could defend. other than that is has been people horrified about it

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

more blood on trump and the gop

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

at least we know onedarksoul will meltdown hard when his traitor god gets crushed this november

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

no trumpers seem to be itt. they must not have gotten their talking points on this yet

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

onedarksoul posted...

He tried to start a war with Iran...oh boy. Bolton left his administration precisely because he wouldn't be more aggressive with them. Bunch of incoherent kids on here.

you arent very educated or capable of recognizing reality, which is onbrand for someone openly supporting a traitor like trump

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

gunplagirl posted...

Technically speaking this sort of bounty thing isn't anything new for US military personnel. That said, not doing anything about it and Russia's increasing influence in the regions US soldiers are serving, that's why it's not just a problem but a full on controversy. Also plays into all the other times he's done things to help Russia at great risk to America.

that is not out of character for putin, what is super fucked is trump hiding it and continuing to shill for putin the very next month

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Antifar posted...

Nixon sabotaged peace talks in Vietnam in order to win the 68 election.

and trump tried to start a war with iran to look like a strongman. neither instance are nearly as egregious as trump allowing putin to take out hits on american soldiers while continuing to shill for him.

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

hilarious and on brand that the trumpers itt can't defend their positions

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

onedarksoul posted...

No he isn't. Go back and re-read what Nixon did, if you ever knew.

nixon wasn't openly the bitch of an enemy nation. nixon didn't shill for a foreign enemy when they took out hits on our soldiers which makes him less scummy than fat donald

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Bestoffuture posted...

I'm not trying to sway them. Nothing is gonna sway them.

i don't think anyone is trying to sway trumpers as they have proven time and again they are ok with treason and incompetence as long as it comes with a side of racism and xenophobia.

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Bleuets posted...

I dont support trump, but I dont support shit like this either. How about this: you dont support America. You know why? Because youre not recruiting people to vote for Biden. Youre instead running around pissing off people instead of persuading them to come to vote for Biden. You are actively sabotaging Bidens chance at winning.

that is idiotic logic but typical for your kind.

people are voting biden because he is not trump, which is why trump is looking to be routed worse than any incumbent in history. if facts piss people off they are scum anyway and were never voting for the non traitor

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Bleuets posted...

and Im not a trump supporter.

at least you are ashamed of it but no one buys that

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Bleuets posted...

Well, you kinda answered it in your opening post didnt you?

liberals dont wanna talk do they? They just wanna be right. They dont want to listen, they just wanna call me a moron.

look at this topic. You didnt come here to listen or have a conversation did you? You came in to tell me that I hate America and that Im just a moron. Liberals dont persuade people to their cause. Instead they are condescending and look down upon anyone who doesnt agree with them right away.

if you support trump you objectively hate america, otherwise why would you support a traitor that was cool with russia taking hits on our troops while actively shilling for russia?

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

coh posted...

That;s literally the left

"no u"

until you respond to why trump is retweeting white power and shilling for putin after he knew putin took a hit out on our troops you will never be treated like you have anything valid to say

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Bio1590 posted...

I'm sure it's just a coincidence this was done now and is in no way meant to be a distraction from the news about Trump knowing about Russia placing hits on American troops and doing nothing about it.

not even doing nothing, he continued to openly shill for them and advocated for them to get in g7 after he learned of this

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Doom_Art posted...

You eventually realized you fell for it and how messed up it is

That's more than we can say for a lot of other folks

this tbh. i believed dumb shit when i was younger and most people do at some point. the fact you were open to reality is a lot better than many.

the right wing disinformation network is incredibly effective as they make their supporters somehow think that anything negative about the right is fake news despite facts being easily accessible. they have legit brainwashed millions of people

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

also supporting trump means you are ok with him allowing putin to take out hits on our soldiers while continuing to shill for putin

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Gregtheegg posted...

"staggering amount of evidence", yet you provide zero evidence.

in the last two days trump has retweeted white power (today) and we found out yesterday he knew putin took out hits on our soldiers and continued to be putin's bitch and shill for him

your move

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Shablagoo posted...

so youre like a war veteran. youve seen things.

i got temporarily banned on an account once but it wasnt for anything nefarious

this is a safe space. feel free to open up

yeah lol the tou used to be more harshly enforced and i used to shitpost more

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

ElatedVenusaur posted...

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8we4dj6
Joe Biden giving a eulogy at Strom Thurmond's funeral.
I'm sorry, but I think you're overestimating how much daylight there is between Trump and Biden on this topic.

The truth is, Obama did nothing about police brutality(except proffer some lukewarm reforms and "beer summit", both of which did nothing) and so will Biden. Obama was the one who started putting kids in cages, (in order to convince Republicans he was serious about border security), and Biden will continue those policies. But he'll do them decorously, and maybe show some glimmer of humanity when something bad happens.
And you better hope Mitch McConnell loses in November, because...
https://theintercept.com/2019/06/24/joe-biden-tax-cuts-mitch-mconnell/
Joe Biden is a sucker. There's a real great chance 2024 will end up being a replay of 2016 you're so desperate to avoid.

your attempt to shout same thing both sides kinda falls flat when trump retweeted white power just today. when we found out yesterday he allowed russia to take out hits on our soldiers and continued shilling for them immediately.

biden represents incremental progress which is far better than the blatant regression trump offers. biden is running to the left of clinton who ran to the left of obama

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

ThyCorndog posted...

it's cause removing trump from office isn't the only thing some people care about. some want more than a return to the status quo

as they should. to affect real change we have to do the groundwork though. we are going in the direction of progress but we have to get people to actually vote for progressives. in many places we see progressives winning house seats and elections at local levels, we just have to expand that greatly. that isn't something that can be done in a day or a year and it has to be done through winning elections. letting trump win again would just set progressives back decades as the ussc and federal courts would be packed to the gills with right wing stooges

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

TopKekBro posted...

But hockey bub doesnt have to eat the cyanide, it will be his neighbor, so that is ok (to him)

hockey has always seemed like a good poster in the past, its just wild to me he is falling for the obvious right wing bullshit here. biden is far from perfect and far down the list of who i wanted, but he is far better than trump

trump is such a threat to our democracy and many of our citizens i would have gladly voted someone like romney over him with no hesitation. biden is far better than romney

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Squall28 posted...

It would if his side comes out. The left talks a big game, but don't show up when it counts. Look at what happened to Bernie. Look at how in person voting screws over the left. They'll vote if it's convenient by mail. If you have to put in the extra work of voting in person? Fuck that.

Disclaimer: I think voting should be available to everyone easily. By mail, by phone, whatever.

that is normally the case but there is reason to believe biden will turn out the vote. dems voted in record numbers in '18 midterms and in the '20 primaries. some people will sit at home but recent history has shown that people will vote en masse against trump

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Gregtheegg posted...

Can you be any more disingenuous?

it was literally a neo nazi rally organized and populated by neo nazis.

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

hockeybub89 posted...

If I am offered stale bread or a poisoned apple covered in diarrhea, I will eat neither. The fact the bread won't kill me doesn't make it tasty. Not being Trump is easy. Any Democrat can do that by just existing. That doesn't mean everyone has to accept that as good enough.

The argument you are making is the exact problem with American politics. You are given two viable options and you are shamed into voting for the lesser of two evils. Voting is so negative, when it should be positive.

this just showcases unreal privledge.

biden does kinda suck and is a far worse candidate than bernie...but he will protect basic civil rights for gay people/black people/women/hispanics while also not being blatantly under the thumb of an evil dictator in russia who murders out soldiers.

give me stale bread over cyanide any day of the week

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

averagejoel posted...

I'm entirely unconvinced that he is trying

this is pretty much exactly what people were saying about Clinton in 2016

this is no different than mindless trumper rhetoric.

biden is leading nationally by 14-16, far more than clinton ever did. people that don't like either candidate favor biden by 40 points. they favored trump by almost 20 points in '16. clinton never broke 50% nationally while biden is closer to 60 than 50. biden leads in florida by 8-10 while clinton never lead there by more than 1. biden is leading in every swing state by 5+ (outside the margin of error) and even some red states while clinton never lead in most outside the margin of error

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Bullet_Wing posted...

How so? Biden has one rape accusation against him from a source who changed her story constantly when checked.

Meanwhile Trump has over a dozen against him including ones that went to court and he paid settlements to get them to go away

*over two dozen

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

B-Factor posted...

Staying home is an option.

staying home is just giving tacit approval of trump and what he stands for

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

at this point anyone that claims to be on the left at all has a moral obligation to vote for biden if they live in a state that could potentially be close. if you live in ny or ca or alabama it really doesn't matter, but anywhere it could be close you are just shilling for trump if you dont vote biden.

i would bet i am further left than many people here, i also hate fascism and the pure evil the gop and especially trump stand for

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

i havent been banned since '03 and that was the only time. this account used to get warned and purged here and there but i have been warned maybe once in the last two years

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

Squall28 posted...

Maybe stop calling mods racist?

We've had so many polls here. CE is like 50% far left. 25% moderate left. 24% moderate right. 1% far right

it's almost like alt righters lie about their political views but continue to be obvious alt right shitposters

edit: the mods aren't racist from what i have seen, they just don't do enough to crack down on obvious right wing trolls

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

shockthemonkey posted...

I hate to ask but link?

https://www.axios.com/tim-scott-trump-tweet-white-power-ffa80fed-1b02-455c-824e-02cd1f7a8c70.html

https://www.kvcrnews.org/post/trump-retweets-video-apparent-supporter-saying-white-power#stream/0

second link shows the actual tweet

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...

No the money would be better spent getting rid of our debt.

trump, who you worship, has made the debt worse than anyone ever. time to give the left a chance

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

of course the alt right types that ignore trump committing treason by ignoring russia murdering our troops show up here to whine

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis

now trump is retweeting a video of his supporters yelling white power, presumably to distract from his naked treason.

this guy is trying to treat a gunshot wound with human shit

---

I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis