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TopicWill you be getting the COVID19 vaccine?
Noraneko_Vel
04/14/20 10:57:16 AM
#73
I mean if their own government is expecting the worst, I wouldn't say their method is working.
Note that the statistics come from actually testing people, and if no one gets tested (like in America) or if the tests are faulty (happened before in some country, not sure which anymore), yeah, it'll look "good".

EvalAngell posted...
herd immunity exists

There is no evidence to suggest this is true anywhere. Scientists are literally working on confirming that people are building immunity and how long it lasts right now.

And if the virus mutates faster than we can become immune to it, going for herd immunity is literally having your population keep playing russian roulette every few weeks till they hit the bullet.

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TopicWill you be getting the COVID19 vaccine?
Noraneko_Vel
04/14/20 10:50:35 AM
#67
EvalAngell posted...
what's wrong? Sweden didn't lock anything down...have some social distancing but nothing over the top and they are already past peak. 80% of their population lives in urban setting. Tell me how their method was wrong compared to ours?

Just did a quick search and the first thing I found (yesterday's article):

As for whether the approach is working, the Swedish government has been candid about the fact that things could get worse in Sweden before they get better.
"We have been told to expect deaths to rise in the thousands in weeks to come."

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TopicWill you be getting the COVID19 vaccine?
Noraneko_Vel
04/14/20 10:47:34 AM
#64
EvalAngell posted...
anytime someone offers a different perspective they're crushed for it on this board. very sad.

You're not supposed to be getting support for saying things that are wrong after all

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TopicWill you be getting the COVID19 vaccine?
Noraneko_Vel
04/14/20 10:42:34 AM
#57
Tactical_Spork posted...
oh boy the classic conservative trick of cherry-picking the small handful of laughing-stock boob non-experts and paid shills to support your stance in the face of overwhelming expert analysis to the contrary
yup

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TopicWill you be getting the COVID19 vaccine?
Noraneko_Vel
04/14/20 10:18:55 AM
#47
EvalAngell posted...
The curve has been flattened

Yeah, by taking away the government's funding for testing.
Read between the lines and never fucking trust the US government as long as Trump is at the top.

Any by the way, just because it flattened does not mean the super-infective virus will disappear once more people are in its reach

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TopicWill you be getting the COVID19 vaccine?
Noraneko_Vel
04/14/20 6:44:12 AM
#29
I remember reading that evidence suggests it spreads like flu, not chickenpox

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TopicWill you be getting the COVID19 vaccine?
Noraneko_Vel
04/14/20 6:01:56 AM
#24
lilJoe457 posted...
And apparently it spreads easier but isn't airborne

Afaik our bodies can build some resistance or immunity to future flu strains too when we catch it. Also we know how to treat it and have meds for it.

Covid is completely new, it's the opposite of that. Also, covid has the trait that it infects both the upper and lower airways, unlike flu it's infective throughout the incubation period (no symptoms) and the incubation period can last up to a month, often 2 weeks.

lilJoe457 posted...
It's not anymore deadly than the flu

It's many times more deadly, it has a high chance to hospitalize you.

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TopicWill you be getting the COVID19 vaccine?
Noraneko_Vel
04/14/20 3:30:24 AM
#19
LeperMessiahXX posted...
Sure, provided it's been tested and deemed safe.

This.
And by "tested" I mean by someone competent, that means NOT America

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TopicLast night, I experienced "exploding head syndrome."
Noraneko_Vel
04/13/20 2:16:50 PM
#19
Had this happen once years ago, I interpreted it like a very bright explosion happening outside of my window.

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TopicWas skyward sword the worst zelda game?
Noraneko_Vel
04/11/20 8:02:56 AM
#24
Tri Force Heroes and Spirit Tracks are literally unenjoyable garbage.

Dunno how awful Wild Breath is, didn't have a chance to try it yet. Current backlog too big to buy a new system without a game library.

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TopicFlorida Woman uses her UNDERWEAR as a COVID-19 Face Mask! Does she look Stupid??
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 7:35:33 PM
#7
it doesn't matter anyway coz it can become wet and lets through water, thus the moment a droplet gets on it you're possibly infected.

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TopicFlorida Woman uses her UNDERWEAR as a COVID-19 Face Mask! Does she look Stupid??
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 7:29:00 PM
#4
Strider102 posted...
She's just savoring the smell.


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TopicPeople who are boycotting Chinese restaurants
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 1:31:48 PM
#21
Dragonblade01 posted...
You don't have to meet someone yourself in order for them to cause a chain reaction that leads to the virus getting to you

What kind of dumbass logic is that?

If you actively keep going to places that will obviously have a very high chance of infecting you with covid, YOU are the one who causes the said chain reaction that leads it to other people who would otherwise have stayed healthy.

Yes, you DO have to meet someone who is infected to catch covid.

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TopicPeople who are boycotting Chinese restaurants
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 1:18:07 PM
#18
International businessmen are probably so busy travelling you won't meet them anyway.
I would disagree and say people who have family and friends in China are far more likely to travel to China than anyone else, especially when it comes to Chinese holidays.

And places like restaurants were likely hotspots for covid for the whole february.

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TopicPeople who are boycotting Chinese restaurants
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 1:16:03 PM
#16
Jiek_Fafn posted...
All of the Asian food places around me are closed now.

I hate covid for this. Asian food is fucking delicious. :(

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TopicPeople who are boycotting Chinese restaurants
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 1:13:17 PM
#14
Dragonblade01 posted...
You know who else goes to China? Many non-Chinese Americans

Yet there'll be a much, much higher chance a Chinese person would have contact with China.
So avoiding public places who have a ton of Chinese customers wouldn't be racist, it'd be keeping yourself a bit safer from covid.

But like I said, today that's already over and people from the USA, Italy and various others covid hotspots are far more risky.

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TopicPeople who are boycotting Chinese restaurants
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 1:09:58 PM
#11
ScazarMeltex posted...
Ummm, citation needed?

No.

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TopicPeople who are boycotting Chinese restaurants
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 1:05:09 PM
#7
Avoiding Chinese restaurants for the first 4 or so weeks of February was absolutely the right thing to do.
Face it, Chinese people likely had contact with Wuhan (friends and family who flew to/from it) and thus with the infected. It's not racism, it's common sense and the Chinese people just got unlucky, not much you can do about it.

But today? It's best to avoid all restaurants period, if you want to keep yourself and those close to you healthy. If you still avoid Chinese specifically, face it, you're racist. They already fought off the illness and they are the ones in risk of getting the infection from us.

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TopicYou know when i figured out tipping was bullshit as FUCK???
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 12:56:49 PM
#4
Allowing tipping is abusing workers who need the tips.

If you don't tip em, they'll fight for the better payments they deserve.

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Topicsexual orientation test
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 11:36:57 AM
#27
Not being based on any science means it shouldn't be taken seriously.

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Topicsexual orientation test
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 11:32:18 AM
#24
Starmieketone posted...
This test is utterly banal

Yeah. Half the questions ask if you're attracted to women, the other asks the same about men

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Topicsexual orientation test
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 11:15:22 AM
#4
Question 1 of 15
I identify as a:

lol.

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TopicWhat should happen to this cop?
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 11:08:17 AM
#4
Prison for terrorism,

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TopicTrump coronaforce news conference ratings through the roof
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 10:55:37 AM
#11
Christian RULES posted...
White House News Conferences more trustworthy

Wii_Shaker posted...
It's just getting your bullshit from the tap.


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TopicJ.K. Rowling says "breathing exercises" helped her beat COVID-19
Noraneko_Vel
04/10/20 10:39:53 AM
#11
JK Rowling is a fucking idiot then

KillerSlaw posted...
The exercise involves inhaling for five seconds, holding your breath for five seconds, and then exhaling. According to the video, on your sixth deep breath you do a big cough, covering your mouth (of course). You do this twice, then lay on your bed, on your frontside, with a pillow in front of you taking slightly deeper breaths for another ten minutes.

It may be a lung capacity exercise, but this HARMS your throat, no?

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Topic12-hour clock or 24-hour clock?
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 10:23:24 AM
#2
When someone says to meet at 8, you don't know if it's 8 AM or 8 PM.
When someone says to meet at 16, you know exactly when you'll meet.

While analog clocks are usually inaccurate and require a bit of calculating, digital clocks immediately tell you the correct number.

So yeah, there's no reason whatsoever to stick with the 12-hour clock.

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 10:19:32 AM
#56
Whatever floats your boat lol

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 10:03:48 AM
#54
MrMallard posted...
Australia has 50 COVID deaths, compared to tens of thousands of deaths

People probably die before they have a chance to infect in that place, lol

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 9:11:38 AM
#46
YellowMustard69 posted...
I didn't know that Trump ordered people to build huge dense cities so that people are all next to each other and that he also ordered people to go outside and not wash their hands and stuff. Interesting.

There already are dense cities, and he's been actively telling people not to pay attention to covid ("we beat it", "it's just the flu, except less dangerous"). He's the reason people are so horribly misinformed and underestimate an extremely dangerous virus.

Stop idolizing Trump's dick and go inform yourself what Trump has been doing the whole time between limiting flights to China and WHO's announcement that it's a pandemic.

LampChop posted...
Dude shut the fuck up. You have been a fountain of misinformation since day one.

Reminds me of that time you used an article you didn't even read as evidence to refute what I said.
Why I knew you haven't read it? Because I used that same article to prove my words right as a response lol. I think it's around that time that you started harassing me with your shit posts?

LampChop posted...
and getting some sick enjoyment out of scaring people whenever you can on here

People have to know the truth, no one cares if they like it or not. Covid is extremely dangerous and ignoring it will just make it spread further.

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 7:20:13 AM
#28
LampChop posted...
Oh yes you fucking can.

No, you can't. Why is it so hard for you to understand that China had the best possible response to covid based on their past experiences with sars and that every other country, ESPECIALLY USA fucked up very badly despite being in a better situation than China?

LampChop posted...
Love it how people complain about other people defending Trump's response, while you have shit posters like this defending WHO's response.

You're the one shit posting and refusing to even have an intelligent conversation, though.

Face the facts. Trump actively did everything he could to make everyone ignore covid, to shrug off covid as a joke for the sake of economy, he refused to listen to evidence and acted like a medical expert. All of that lead to USA becoming one of the most infested countries, just look at those bullshit death counts.

Meanwhile...China quickly identified and stopped a completely unknown threat, covid. And they're probably the only ones in the world who have it completely under control.

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 7:08:39 AM
#24
Also, you can't even blame them for reaching the conclusion that there is no human-to-human spread.
a) for example avian flu is extremely infective amongst birds, but humans are resistant to it and only very rarely spread it person-to-person
b) during the early phase, there were theories that it only happens to people who came in contact with the infected bat/snake/whatever meat in Wuhan, or that it only infects the Chinese.

There is no way to prove it without witnessing a person-to-person infection, except covid has a much longer incubation time than usual for respiratory illnesses.

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 7:02:33 AM
#21
LampChop posted...
Remember when China and WHO said COVID wasn't spread through human to human?

You mean back when it only started and absolutely nothing was known about covid, meaning you could have an infected cough someone in the face and that someone would be asymptomatic for up to a month?

The whole reason we're in this fucking mess is because covid is almost completely invisible.

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 6:59:07 AM
#19
celebar posted...
Remember the "Thanks Obama" meme where people mocked conservatives for blaming Obama for everything? Why don't we have a "Thanks Trump" meme yet?

Trump and his followers are so fucking dumb and delusional, they'll take it as praise

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 6:23:26 AM
#16
USA has been covering up covid from february until the pandemic announcement.

Meanwhile China has been efficiently fighting it off and stopping panic from spreading so that people don't try to run away from Wuhan in large numbers and don't flood hospitals pointlessly.

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 6:11:21 AM
#10
Wow there are actually people defending Trump, even though the Trump Administration is completely at fault for the massive covid outbreak in USA

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TopicLOL holy shit. The world really actually is ending because Trump is president!
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 6:00:49 AM
#6
The_Korey posted...
So a pandemic starts outside of America and reaches nearly every korner of the globe, and this is Trump's fault?

Yeah, Trump turned USA into a covid breeding ground.

Meanwhile China fought covid off and is helping other countries recover.

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TopicSupercomputer in china hints at coronavirus deaths in usa last july
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 1:32:36 AM
#9
Wii_Shaker posted...
Is this article implying that coronavirus could have been contracted through tainted vape cartridges? If true than it would have spread here in the states for months.

No, the theory is the vaping deaths were in reality an early version of covid.

But that doesn't explain why covid spread started in China. It's so damn infective, US would have spread it to nearby countries first, not China.

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TopicChina should be sued for $6.5 trillion for coronavirus damages
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 1:20:46 AM
#81
SaccharineSmile posted...
apparently anything he does is wrong

That is literally the truth.

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TopicChina should be sued for $6.5 trillion for coronavirus damages
Noraneko_Vel
04/09/20 1:11:43 AM
#79
Squidkids posted...
why where they hiding it at first though?

US? Because Trump Administration is racist and dumb, they thought it was all a joke to mess with US economy.

China? Because people start trying to flee from the infected state, which leads to infected spreading all over the country and all over the world. And dumbass wannabe-whistleblowers / reporters start moving between hospitals for hot news, turning into super spreaders. Panic causes people to spread the virus more. During the early days there wasn't even any confirmation the virus could spread person-to-person and it's completely invisible because of high infectivity, low death rate and long incubation time with incubation infections.

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TopicThree options to combat COVID-19. What do you like best?
Noraneko_Vel
04/08/20 6:41:47 AM
#45
Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Read than number again. 37 MILLION DEAD BEFORE HERD IMMUNITY.

IM GONNA PASS ON THAT.

Exactly.
And we don't even know if herd immunity is poosible because it mutates fast.

So what I'd like right now is a confirmation from real experts (not youtube "experts") whether herd immunity is possible at all. If it is there's some hope left for us, if it isn't all governments are forced to abandon this plan.

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TopicThree options to combat COVID-19. What do you like best?
Noraneko_Vel
04/08/20 6:27:24 AM
#42
Ludwig Von 2 posted...
You do realize you dont catch the virus by it being airborne dont you?

That's exactly how it spreads during incubation. Remember the 15min face to face or 2 hours in the same room rule?

It was said many times that most masks protect others from you, but they do not do much to protect the wearer. You need something like a N95 mask to be protected.

What I meant in my post was that govts need to investigate what masks you need to wear minimally to prevent infecting others throughout the flight.

Also the "keep masks for others" argument is void IMO because we only have that issue coz the governments didn't prepare. Once we beat covid, there'll probably be far more than enough masks.

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TopicThree options to combat COVID-19. What do you like best?
Noraneko_Vel
04/08/20 5:58:43 AM
#39
Remember that drunk bastard teen from the "if i get corona, i get it" spring breaker meme?

I hear he got hit by the virus and wrote an apology, that he regrets what he did and said.

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TopicThree options to combat COVID-19. What do you like best?
Noraneko_Vel
04/08/20 5:41:57 AM
#37
IMO covid will make everyone enforce rules like that regardless of whether they want to or not, because people will realise lives are more important than money after millions die to it and economy breaks down.

And countries that refuse to listen could get travel ban or forced 2 week quarantine on landing.

The big benefit of doing this: it would intercept stuff like ebola too and may help in keeping illness outbreaks including flu contained. If corona or flu mutate into something super deadly and infective in the future again, it would prevent another outbreak like covid.

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TopicThree options to combat COVID-19. What do you like best?
Noraneko_Vel
04/08/20 5:28:18 AM
#35
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Even if we go with Option 1, what happens when our respective countries start reopening the airports for business?

1. Forced tests for all people who want to fly and reject all families who had a case in the last 2 weeks.
2. Decontamination and free masks for all passengers and severe penalties for those who don't wear them the whole time. Mask type should be the kind that they confirm to be guaranteed to prevent spread from the wearer.
3. On confirmed cases 2 weeks forced quarantine for those in contact with victim, prison for those who escape quarantine.
4. Supply plane with rapid tests that produce guaranteed results. If someone shows fever, enforce test.

This sounds rough, but the whole point is stopping casual tourism until covid is wiped out in that country.

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TopicThree options to combat COVID-19. What do you like best?
Noraneko_Vel
04/08/20 4:53:42 AM
#31
Orlando_Jordan posted...
What are you, 12? You can't catch the same disease twice. Your body develops immunity.

That's not how it works sadly.
Do you know what the flu and cold are? Well, we're getting infected by them year by year.

The issue here is, while our body builds immunity towards viruses it fought off, the viruses can mutate into something so different that our immunity memory can't recognize it anymore. Then you get reinfected.

And now let's think about the risks.
The virus already spread across (almost?) the whole planet. It had a long time to jump from host to host and we likely have over a hundred mutated strains of the virus.

a) We have no real confirmation whether we can become immune to covid and how long our immunity lasts. That is currently being researched.

b) There is a theory the virus can fool our immunity system, leading to more severe symptoms if you get reinfected. This would explain why the first waves of it were almost harmless like a cold or flu, but then the death rates suddenly started rising sharply.

c) There is a theory covid leaves permanent or long-term damage in your heart and lungs. So if you get reinfected too quickly you may easily die from it.

So let's say we go with the herd immunity plan (= let people get infected). What happens if we can't build herd immunity because of the rapid infections? At that point it would be so widespread we would have no way of stopping it, hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions will have died for nothing and the environments will be contaminated by it.

knutjob posted...
It's unlikely you can catch it twice. We're a million plus cases deep so if you could there would be more than a few disputed cases out of Asia by now.

There was an article that iirc 15% of the victims get reinfected in China or Japan iirc?

But it's hard to prove whether that's a reinfection or just traces of it remaining because the patient wasn't completely cured yet.

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