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furb posted...

you can't reasonable access the d pad or the l button while holding the middle bar

I hated this this, but it's what I used. You at least could access all the buttons

https://www.amazon.com/InterAct-SuperPad-64-Controller/dp/B00000K4ST

that pad looks so 90s lol

SiO4 posted...

I hate to break it to ya, but the PS1 was a piss poor 3D system.
People were just hungry for 3D games at the time, and they didn't know the difference.

Post 20 and this one are you trying to get sassy at me and be edgy. Who pissed on your cereal?

There were no good 3D consoles at the time. The 3D0 was 2D based and so was the jaguar. Actually, the 3D0 could only do 20,000 polygons per second, which is FX2 chip territory. The saturn was conceived as a 2D system (they slapped all of the 3D hardware after learning about the 3D prowess of the PS1), and the N64 was a full year later, and the virtual boy couldn't even pull red alarm in polygons, they had to use wireframes instead.

At the time the PS1 was THE 3D powerhouse, I don't know where your sassy take came from. The saturn actually relied on its amazing 2D capabilities to do 3D. Then along came the N64, but that's a different story.

DarkRoast posted...

Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter were AAA+ ports. Arguably better than their Saturn counterparts.

There is an explanation for this:

VR and VF were rushed because of the saturn's own rushed launch. Meanwhile the 32x versions had a lot of TLC.

A lot of it is a meme, but still, let's think about the historic context here:

• videogames were 2D in the 16bit era.

This was perfectly adequate at first, but the D pad's limitations began showing their head towards the end of this era. Playing DOOM on the SNES d-pad wasn't that precise, was it?

• Sega and sony didn't care about this problem

Look at the PS1 controller: It's basically the SNES controller just changed enough so nintendo doesn't sue sony for it, and with 2 extra buttons added for good measure. The Saturn controller was pretty much a 6 button genesis controller with 2 extra shoulder buttons.

Who cared about this? Nintendo. They envisioned the problems that 3D gaming with 2D controller would bring, and they began experimenting. Nobody knew how this would turn out.

• The VB controller was the first attempt at a controller for 3D gaming

It basically looks like a proto-PS1 controller (itself based on the SNES controller) with.... TWO D PADS. Yes! This is how nintendo thought they could address the 3rd dimension. The VB may have sucked, but this concept was revolutionary.

Then along came the N64. Will 3D become the new norm? Is it just a fad and 2D will prevail? Will we have 3D and 2D games co-existing? Nobody knew.

Nintendo developed the analog stick to deal with 3D gaming, and as far as home consoles go, this idea was revolutionary. But did this mean nintendo would have to do away with the D pad and shun 2D gaming? You can't blame nintendo for hedging their bets and developing a controller that could do 2D and 3D.

Nobody else had tried this before, they were the trailblazers, there was no manual for this. The first iteration at something revolutionary is never perfect.

This thing was so revolutionary that sega followed suit with their nights 3D controller (https://segaretro.org/3D_Control_Pad), which looked like an UFO and wasn't much better, and sony followed suit with the dual shock, which became the golden standard.

Contrary to popular belief, you "don't need 3 hands to use it", nor do you need to hold the 3 handles all at once. The idea is that the controller had a 2D mode (grab the left and right handle) and a 3D mode (grab the center and right handle):

https://i.imgur.com/QABlI9e.png

TheDarkCircle posted...

The other big mistake was the "surprise" launch of the Saturn. Rather than doing a coordinated release, building awareness, launch line-up etc. They shipped consoles early to get ahead of Playstation, and at a higher price point. Also, the confusing architecture of the system, since it was originally designed to just be a 2D system was tough for developers.

I think Sega could have survived 32X if the Saturn had been more successful. The problem was by the time Dreamcast came out, Sony had established the Playstation brand so well that it really was just a race between Nintendo and Sony. Sega didn't have a clear lane between the more adult skewing Playstation or family-friendly/quirkiness of Nintendo. They were something in between and there was no room for them at that point.

Part of the issue there was that Sony freaked Sega out. Nintendo and Sega underestimated them at first, after all, other big electronics companies tried to break into the market and failed, such as NEC and Panasonic. But then Sega realized that the PS1 was going to be a 3D powerhouse unlike anything the world had ever seen (compare star fox to Tomb Raider or Crash Bandicoot) and they freaked out: Their saturn was basically the Sega 32X but CD based (same CPU and all!) and it was basically a 2D powerhouse, which makes sense, 2D was the thing up to that point.

So they slapped a bunch of chips and co-processors on their saturn and they were quite shook. They were so shook they decided to sneakily launch before time in an effort to steal the PS1's thunder. This was a hasty move, they didn't think it through, so they pissed off many retailers and they didn't distribute the system well, not to mention that it affected their lauch lineup quite a bit. This also explains why virtua fighter 1 was a bit disappointing, to the point they had to re-release it later.

SiO4 posted...

Long story short, Sega is completely underrated by most, as compared to Nintendo.
Sega was always the innovator.
Nintendo, always, and still does, rest on its past glories.

I beg to differ. The NES rescued the gaming industry after the great crash, they even needed a trojan horse (rob the robot).
The SNES introduced all sorts of hardware innovations, such as the FX chip, the SA-1 chip, the FX2 chip, the digital compression technique used for DKC (apparently the game was 300 mbit pre-compression, but just 32 bit post-compression).
The N64 was so ahead of its time it isn't even funny. Let's put it this way: it was more powerful than PCs of the time and it had zbuffering and anti aliasing, I don't think even the Wii had that.

CreepySmile posted...

But actually the concept of what race you are.
I saw a job ad for I think walmart? Target? One of those places asking for what race you are and specific kinds of race, like white American, white European, white other, Latin y/n

It was weird seeing it. Gender I can understand since if it's like a nurse or something, a patient might request a nurse of the same gender.

But the race thing is weird. Please explain.

I could have sworn it was illegal to ask about your race when it comes to job ads.

Anyway, the US obsession with race has to do with US history. The hyper-focus on race began with the UK in colonial times, who made up the idea of "white" to distinguish themselves from the "less advanced" (their thoughts, not mine) people they'd conquer. You'll find this interesting, but they didn't even see Scandinavians or Irish as white!

They colonized the US and they met the native americans, who were drastically different. They used the concept of whiteness to justify all sort of bad things they did to the natives. But here is where it gets interesting. With time, Germans, French, Italians and Irish arrived. To an european, they look drastically different, they might as well be different races. But to a US-born son of Brits they look.... white, compared to the native americans they see fairly often. Then black people were brought over for slavery, and they were even more different. Then Asians arrived too, and they looked quite different too. Suddenly the irish, italians, etc don't look so different after all... "we're all white'.

This kicked off an obsession with race that lasts until today, look up the "southern strategy", basically the idea is to convince poor and rural whites that they have more in common with the likes of the Koch brothers or Mark Zuckerberg than with the black dude next door who works at the same coal mine or car factory line next to them.

This has curiously led to all sorts of fluctuations on race and to more arbitrary designations. Suddenly "hispanic is a race" , and apparently if you speak spanish you can't be white, except maybe, just maybe, if you're from spain. Suddenly, east asians are "almost white", and they're the model minority, though that's now taken a gigantic step back after the unfortunate COVID situation again.

Race is a toxic obsession that's set the county back 30 years.

SiO4 posted...

I get what you are saying, but you are also overlooking Sega dominants in the Aracade market.
It's when Sega brought the Aracade home, with the Genisis, that things really began to go south.

And don't forget, the PS1 was...a Nintendo, 'Mistake' as it were.

you're right. I sort of see sega portable and sega arcade as separate storylines, if you will.

I think sega arcade still did well after the genesis, around the end of the genesis life span they released virtua racer, and then virtua fighter, and then they ushered us to their golden era, with daytona USA, virtua fighter 2, sega rally, house of the death, etc.

The sega 32x period was a fascinating story:

• Sega freaked out because of the Jaguar and 3D0 *and* they were also butthurt that the SNES was winning
• Sega of Japan decided to pursue the "brilliant" idea of simply upgrading the GENESIS so it can be called 32bit and so it could handle more colors, it'd basically be a bit more powerful than the SNES
• Sega of America said that was stupid, but Sega of Japan insisted.
• Sega of America said that if they were gonna go that route at least they should make it an add on to the genesis so it's cheaper and they can have backwards compatibility
• Sega of Japan agreed, but secretly developed the saturn too.

Basically if Sega of Japan had its way we'd have gotten a system weaker than the 32x as the genesis successor. Sega of America was the cause of the 32x, but at the same time Sega of Japan sneakily worked on the saturn, pitting 2 divisions of the same company vs each other.

Pretty stupid huh?

FortuneCookie posted...

Sega's attempts to stay one step ahead at all costs is what really did them in. Sometimes, you have to see what the other party is gonna do before you can make your move.

Sega, as much as I like them, was sort of a bad influence for the industry. You see, the industry was always big enough for 2, even 3 players. During the Famicom/NES and Super Famicom/SNES times they always had what I call the sega cycle:

• Release a system
• Get beaten by nintendo
• Get upset about it, and rather than enjoying the money and relative stability that being # 2 brings, go to the drawing board and develop a next-gen system to beat nintendo
• Usher a new generation of gaming, which means that nintendo will release a new system of their own as well, so we will ALL have to buy new systems
• get their ass kicked by nintendo again

They kept repeating this cycle over and over. The only time it paid off was with the sega genesis, their one true hit. The game gear was an exception, it was # 2 but sega decided to enjoy their # 2 status in the portable arena and the game gear lived a long, happy life... until sega decided to kill it to launch the nomad, which never took off.

I just sent you a PM <_<

LanHikari10 posted...

Why not report? If he's sending you weird or inappropriate things or harassing via PM, you should absolutely report it.

you're one of the good mods. But others hate me, they'd not do a thing, I've seen it happen before.

But in reality I didn't report him so I can screenshot it if need be too

Superlinkbro posted...

What exactly is he sending you if you can say what it is?

he is calling me mate and telling me he finds me annoying but he'd be willing to give me another chance... wtf. Out of the blue, no reason, just like that.

ZannoL posted...

Hes an extremely damaged and deranged person who spends all night and day harassing users. Put him on ignore like everyone else has.

he wasn't always that way. He was actually cool with me when he was brutai. Now he's all harassy and has that weird ronda rousey gimmick

I won't report him, but I thought I'd give others a heads up

wackyteen posted...

It actually came 3 weeks ago but I haven't been by the post office to pick it up.

Campaign was over by then anyways.

Can't say I never got anything from Bernie

weird fetish, bro

MaxEffingBemis posted...

Am I the only one in here that thinks MEW looked a bit idk rough in this movie?

yes, she hasn't aged that well. It's a shame, she had such a beautiful face.

CreepySmile posted...

Mary Elizabeth Winstead

She used to be breath taking. But time hasn't been kind on her

CreepySmile posted...

Validate my opinion

we know what you will reply anyway, RONDA ROUSEY!!! RONDA!! THIGHS THIGHS CHOKE.

Godnorgosh posted...

It is a big deal. But your claim was that this sort of thing is unprecedented from an American president. It's not. Look at your country's history. Look at how many of your beloved founders owned slaves. We've had a president who perpetrated a domestic genocide. "Ah, but you see, that was generations ago!" Now you're just moving goalposts.

you just went back to your original deflection again. This is trump vs biden, so keep it at trump vs biden. Whatever some guy did back before we even had 50 states is a different topic.

Godnorgosh posted...

No, I see millions of people of color, immigrants, LGBTQ, working-class people and everyone who fits into the overlaps between those groups viewed as expendable resources by Democrats and Republicans alike, given that Democrats rejected Sanders twice and consistently reject Greens as "crackpots." Your party consistently rejects progressive candidates

assuming this is true for argument's sake, so the DNC treats them as expendable resources because they won't choose socialist candidates, and somehow that equivalent to the horrors that 45 has subjected them to and will subject them to? Again, we're talking about pepsi vs cyanide. You keep saying that you want to feed others cyanide instead of pepsi because pepsi is less healthy than water. It's insane.

Godnorgosh posted...

If Trump is the greater of two evils and I were going for maximum damage, I'd be voting for Trump, wouldn't I? I'm not doing that. But I'm certainly not considering doing anything for Biden until he's at least prepared to make significant concessions

You know damn well that the electoral system is set up in a way right now that a 3rd party vote is not viable. A vote for some 3rd party or write it or a non-vote is pretty much a vote for trump, and you know it.

Godnorgosh posted...

you're all to blame for voting for one of two racist rapists.

You keep trying to equate biden to trump from a moral and damage stand point. It's not going to work. Not when the latter called nazis very fine people, pardoned joe "the great hispanic hunter" arpaio, gave power to stephen miller, ended legal immigration and has fostered the passing of all sort of "religious liberty" laws designed to deny LGBTQ basic rights. Then you have the "grab them by the p****", the rape allegations, the stormy daniels stuff, the playboy playmate stuff, him admitting to going backstage at miss USA to see them changing clothes, etc etc etc. They're not even remotely equivalent and you know it.

Corrik7 posted...

Lol.

"Kavanaugh aligned most closely with Roberts, as they both voted in the same direction in all but one of Kavanaughs first set of decisions. After Roberts, Kavanaugh voted in the same direction as Alito in all but two instances and Breyer in all but three instances. This places Kavanaugh in an interesting space that might, at least initially, not be as far to the right as some of his conservative allies on the court.

To examine Kavanaughs voting alignments at a more granular level, we can look at his agreement levels with each of the individual justices. The justices are split into the liberal and conservative sets. The figures show when Kavanaugh was in the majority or dissent on the X-axis, and when each of the other justices was in the majority and dissent on the Y-axis. The justices votes are aligned when they are both in majority or dissent (quadrants four and two), and they are not aligned when one is in majority and the other is in dissent (quadrants one and three).

Kavanaugh voted along the same lines as Breyer more often than with any of the other liberal justices on the Court, at almost 86 percent of the time so far this term. He then voted alongside Kagan in 81 percent of the decisions in which he participated. Kavanaugh next aligned with both Ginsburg and Sotomayor just over 76 percent of the time so far this term.
These percentages of association with the liberal justices become even more meaningful when compared with the same figures for the conservative justices.

Kavanaugh voted on the same side as Roberts more often than with any of the other justices, at approximately 95 percent of the time. He voted alongside Alito the next most often, at 90 percent of the time. The somewhat surprising finding is that he voted with Breyer more often than with Gorsuch or Thomas. He voted with Gorsuch in 80.95 percent of his votes, which is the same frequency of voting alignment he shared with Kagan. Kavanaugh voted equally least frequently with Thomas, Ginsburg and Sotomayor, all at just over 76 percent of the time."

Alt-Right

Yes, he plays possum on regular cases. But when it comes to alt right stuff, votes about race, immigration, abortion, LGBTQ rights, etc, he shows his true colors

isn't SMaL the guy who got caught posting his sister's paycheck trying to pass it as his own?

lmao he still dares to say he is not alt right

Corrik7 posted...

definitely not voting Alt-Right agenda

LMAO

Yeah that's why all the anti-immigrant alt-right shit gets passed 5-4 lol. Have you forgotten about the woman doing the OK hand thing during his confirmation?It was all over the news, and in response... she doubled down on the OK'ing the next day (so, it had to be on purpose)

Tyranthraxus posted...

They fucking threw out Bill O'Reilly like the garbage he was and he had way more clout than any of the other people you listed.

he did something far worse

Corrik7 posted...

There is exactly the same amount of proof against Biden that there was against Kavanaugh. Zero.

There is MORE corroborating evidence to support Reade than Ford.

So, it comes down to how you acted with Kavanaugh. If you thought zero evidence was not enough evidence to consider the accusation viable, then you shouldn't against Biden either. However, if you were shouting from the rooftops that Kavanaugh was a rapist and Republicans were rape apologists and so on... you should be against Biden now.

However, we all know that the story will change for people conveniently to allow them to support the candidate they want.

There will be some idiot Republicans who will say Kavanaugh was innocent because no evidence while condemning Biden. While there will be hypocrite Democrats who supposedly were championing women speaking up who will now silence a woman who is speaking up because she is accusing a democrat.

It is at least funny watching some of the people getting dragged over twitter for their Ford comments and their Reade indifference.

fratboy kav got appointed to SCOTUS and is now happy furthering alt-right causes at the land's highest court, so I guess we should do the same and vote Biden and have him further non-alt-right causes at POTUS.

I was wavering about who to vote for, but you just convinced me, thanks my friend :)

@Godnorgosh you're either not arguing in good faith or you truly have so much privilege you can't understand what's going on. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and keep it short and in numbered points. Try addressing each numbered item.

1) How long ago was the president that owned slaves elected? What about the other one? Are you really arguing that the "nazis are very fine people" and the stephen miller thing are not a big deal because of other presidents from GENERATIONS ago?

2) you never addressed the point: Do you really see these MILLIONS of people of color, immigrants and LGBTQ as expendable "resources" to be sacrificed for the sake if intellectual purity and busting the system eventually? Don't change the topic mentioning how Biden and/or the DNC haven't been good to them or threw them under the boss, it is nowhere comparable to what 45 and his buddies Bannon and Miller have done to them and plan to do to them: it's like arguing that drinking pepsi and eating cheetos is just like drinking bleach laced with rat poison: Yes, both are really bad for you, but they're not even remotely comparable.

3) What the heck has howie whatshisface done for the sake of your intellectual purity and being a saint? Do tell please.

4) "Perhaps Biden is the harm-reduction candidate; he's still well below my threshold of acceptability.". See, this is the thing I am trying to make you understand. "Harm reduction is well below my threshold of no-damage, so I am going to go for maximum damage" is one of the dumbest thing I have ever heard. So your threshold for no damage is so high you... want maximum damage? It makes no sense and you know it.

DifferentialEquation posted...

https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-obtains-documents-showing-widespread-abuse-child-immigrants-us-custody

Here is a report by the ACLU documenting widespread abuse of migrants between 2009 and 2014. Their report was 30,000 pages in total, and specific examples of abuses are as follows.

All the people are shrieking about the treatment of migrants had nothing to say when this was happening under Obama's watch. And they'll go right back to having nothing to say when the next Democrat president is in office.

I never said everything was rosy before your boy. It's just much worse now

Godnorgosh posted...

These problems that you highlight, in this country with its horribly racist and sexist history, didn't start with Trump, and they won't end with him, either.

Agreed. But before him nobody had taken things as far as he did. He literally called nazis very fine people. He put a supremacist (miller) as policy advisor. He ended legal immigration. He put kids in cages in huge numbers, etc etc

And because I do care about these things, and I also care about changing the system that led to this point, I won't be voting for either racist rapist.

Yeah, so I guess everyone who is not a white, suburban, straight, affluent liberal can be sacrificed so you achieve your so-called revolution, right? See, this is entitlement.

No, burning the country into the ground so you get some sort of socialist candidate that's non-binary and tri-racial won't change anything, by then trump will have appointed dozens, if not hundreds of new judges and he may have 1 or 2 more SCOTUS seats too, among other changes. These changes are practically irreversible.

In fact, I may just end up voting for the "crackpot."

Yeah, because that person CLEARLY did enough to earn your vote. Wait, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO THEIR CANDIDATE WILL BE YET. All you know is you want revenge on the DNC for not going the communism route. This is all we needed to know.

And when I'm blamed for Trump winning, I'll tell you that I made it clear what concessions you had to make if you wanted me to use my vote, the only legal leverage I have to try to change things politically, on your s***ty candidate who won't change anything.

Again, what makes you so special? Under what authority or special position can you say "worship me or else these THOUSANDS of minorities and LGBTQ shall suffer a horrible fate"?

on your s***ty candidate who won't change anything.

You really think that after winning biden would go like "actually.... nazis are very fine people, miller is a swell guy, and we need more alt-right SCOTUS judges so let me nominate arpaio for SCOTUS"? Give me a break. Many of the worse things 45 did would be rolled back by Biden. He'd not give you UBI or free college or have a sick beatbox freestyle solo followed by a pop & lock dance like you want to, but who else would?

hahahaa.
Just like stacy dash. They think they're "part of fox news/the GOP/the good old boys club", only to be disposed of like chewed gum once they're not useful to them anymore.

Do you think hannity or cucker carson or ingraham would be disposed of like this over whatever D&S did? Nope.

Fox news, the GOP and the good old boys, which are the same thing only want good old boys and karens, duh.

Conflict posted...

This is an extremely poor revision. You can't sit there and say that you actually believe Hillary was blameless and just smeared for the past 2 decades.

I mean yes, sure, she did some wrong thing. You can't be in politics for 20 years and have so many high ranking political positions and power and be spotless. Nobody.

Godnorgosh posted...

What this tells me is: you want to blame the left for not voting for the Democrat in the general, implying if they had done so, the Democrat would have won the election. Yet, you do not want to do the work necessary to earn their vote, by supporting and promoting strong candidates with populist policy positions. But it's those on the left who are entitled.

You know how the alt right people appropriate the US flag? They bring it to their rallies and stuff, when in reality, the flag is for every american out there, of every color?

You guys appropriate "the left". Left is not just far-left.

Now that we cleared that, you keep repeating the same spiel: Hillary/Biden didn't knee in front of you and said pretty please while kissing a USSR flag or whatever to win your vote. Fine.

Did Trump do that? Did whatever crackpot the green party pulls out of its behind do that? No. It seems your side is not as demanding with them.

But let me spin this around: is everything about you? When you see kids in cages, people being targeted over the color of their skin, legal changes to negate the rights of LGBTQ, underhanded tactics to treat women and their reproductive rights as if it were 1950, when you see people with torches singing "blood and soil" in charlottesville, running over people with their cars, while waving LITERALLY nazi flags, only to hear POTUS call them "very fine people", you still refuse to do something as simple as going to vote for his only realistic electoral opponent because said side/candidate didn't do enough to endear himself to you? This is the very definition of egoism, privilege, entitlement and shallowness.

Jagr_68 posted...

This will pass and nobody will do anything about it because fuck Americans.

let's not forget about hillary's emails and that biden smelled some hair once, those are the things really worth getting riled on... /s

how are arugula, rodrigo, your boy london, your girl (I forgot her name) and your girl rona?

16-BITTER posted...

Haha yeah SLAMMING! ASTHMA!

I lol'd

Godnorgosh posted...

Sure, blame them. Blame me, too! Then, try to earn our leftist asshole votes by supporting strong candidates with good policy platforms, if you want to win.

Nah, if they choose to act like babies, let them. They are not special, they shouldn't be catered to. Trump already has their vote, either actively (actually voting) or passively (staying at home or voting for whatever crackpot the green party puts out, or write-in), so for all of their ideological purity they clearly treat the alt right side better than the center-left or center-right.

Godnorgosh posted...

that ideology will never get folks to turn out in the general election in the numbers they think it should. I

you're right on that. Those people are to blame for the potus we have right now, and probably in 2020 too. And those people don't have the moral or logical legitimacy to complain about anything that trump does since they enabled it

literally cellulite

Leviathan1 posted...

Not sure if serious.

I mean, mental disease always existed. But we didn't have all these shootings and deranged men out there to the degree we have them now.

Godnorgosh posted...

Ignoring the fact that Biden supports austerity for existing social safety nets, suggested he would veto Medicare for All if it landed on his desk, etc. etc.

Neoliberalism, and Democrats consolidating behind candidates who don't favor the class interests of the electorate, gave us Trump more than anything (other than Trump voters themselves).

You can try to sway or shame every individual disaffected voter into supporting whatever non-Trump Democrat is lined up for them, which is difficult and really more of a temporary workaround, or you can focus more on attacking the political malfeasance of the Democratic Party that led to voters becoming disaffected, which is also difficult, but at least gives you a single point of failure to hone in on. Truthfully, people like Sanders, who people feel better represent them, bring in voters who wouldn't otherwise have bothered at all. Non-voters are the largest bloc for a reason.

Yes, saying that Biden is GOOD for the social safety net or medicare, etc etc is like saying that Pepsi and butter are good for your health.

But you know what's even worse? Rat poison. Again, read my previous post again, trump has been worse than anyone imagined for LGBTQ, hispanics, immigrants and women's reproductive rights. He has a guy that gets compared to goebbels advicing him on policy. The two aren't even close.

CableZL posted...

Yes. Men are essentially taught to keep all their emotions bottled up or you're seen as weak. Extremely unhealthy.

I wonder, are modern men more fragile? We've seen all this bottling up of emotions results in all sorts of mental diseases. So how come it didn't happen in previous generations?

of course is it. But so is toxic everything, and women are not exempt of their own brand of toxicity, only nobody calls them our on their own toxic shit.

Godnorgosh posted...

I think calling Biden's bullshit a 10-pound stone compared to Trump's moon is still pretty generous to Biden; there are a number of us on the left who wouldn't even accept that premise. But sure, granting that Biden is less evil than Trump in a general sense, many people still have a problem accepting a certain degree of evil. That's why if the Democrats' primary concern is winning, they should not coalesce behind shitty candidates. Spoiler: their primary interest is not in winning elections against Republicans but in protecting their class interests and the interests of their corporate donors.

I mean, if you're LGBTQ, hispanic, an immigrant, or a woman who cares about her reproductive rights yes, he's a 10 pound stone compared to the MM moon.

Just look up stephen miller. He gets compared to goebbels quite often, and he is trump's policy advisor. But yeah, "biden smelled hair LOL."

That's the sort of ideological purity insistence that ended giving us trump to begin with.

Godnorgosh posted...

Of course. But Republicans hardly care if their candidate is a creepy, racist rapist. The left cares if the Democratic candidate is a creepy, racist rapist and it does affect turnout, especially if we're still in a pandemic and people can't get access to mail-in voting in their respective counties.

and that's what drives me nuts about the left.

> the right's candidate is the moon coming to Termina in Majora's Mask
> The left's candidate is a 10 pound stone

left wing voter base: "that rock is too heavy! We don't like heavy rocks, so let's not vote for the rock and let's have the MM moon win instead"

MFW :/

Shablagoo posted...

vs.

#REKT

Godnorgosh posted...

I hate to tell you this but they're not making these things up. That's why Biden shouldn't have been regarded as the safe, default option. They're going to hammer on these things in ads. And you know that Trump is shameless enough to hammer on them in debates.

even if there were true, this would go way beyong the pot calling the kettle black. This would be like the sun calling the mcdonald's coffee hot.

SydneyGottlieb posted...

Hes one of the best uses of the pardon.

Some advice: You're being to obvious. If you want to get a reaction from people you don't want to be as blatant about it.

Also, are you SMaL?