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Ok but just saying "it was hopeless to reach her through communication" doesn't mean it was so.

You simply argued that her mind couldn't be changed, I don't really think we concluded that in any meaningful way.

It's taxing times, like I said I have sympathy for frustration, but again that is a far cry from proving it was hopeless to reach her through communication, or that ruining her life was productive.

Who knows. There was some troll video where some black dude asked white people to kneel claiming to be a high ranking member of the Black Lives Matters Company (obvious bullshit). CE acted weird as hell about it without anyone involved sounding smarter than a rock.

Now this is a real apology that shows education and a desire to move forward in a way where hes not centering his feelings towards a flag over the lives of black folks. Good on Brees.

Black people making whites kneel and renounce their whiteness.

Even though I just posted a video about how several much older KKK members had their mind changed with just talk.

Brooooo I'm telling you! If you love their new, more mature sound, you're gonna absolutely love the whole album! I can't stress this enough!!!!!

I totally understand the "I've lost my patience for civil conversation" with people like this. I get there too sometime. I can understand giving up out of frustration. But I think ultimately that's what is being chosen to be done.

I support the protests, I think stuff like that is good and helps us keep the ability to communicate civilly. We do need to make voices heard in this way.

I'm still not on board with the mob justice doxxing and stuff, I understand your frustration and share it, particularly at this time. But I still haven't changed my mind about this not being the most constructive.

I would like a view from a black person who's middle class maybe even upper middle class on how they would feel if rioters were going to destroy their place. Would they be okay with it since it's for the greater good or would they be upset their place got burnt. Or better yet maybe even their small business which employees a few people.

I just fundamentally disagree. Speech and dialogue is how you change minds. Cynicism, mob justice, doxxing and bullying makes things worse.

Active KKK members have changed just through talking, this guy IMO does the best job explaining my overall outlook:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORp3q1Oaezw

Lets be honest, most people in this topic are just taking pleasure in seeing an ignorant person suffer, it isn't about what is prudent or constructive. I think if we start from a place where we are honest about that we can have a more productive conversation about this whole thing.

https://twitter.com/tacobell/status/1267917914734116864

So Taco Bell is innocent. Everybody needs to apologize to the Chihuahua.

I think if she shows that she can change a few years from now. It would be legit to give her a 2nd chance, but that comment is way too disgusting to make me feel bad about her right now. That said. I just think it's ridiculous that so many people think people cannot change. However I do believe her second chance should come later in life. Not now and seriously of all people Zoomer should be the ones that know people will ruin your life if you post crap like that.

It's words and ideas though, shitty dumb words and ideas, but mob justice trying to ruin her life doesn't help anything.

Argue with her, stop being friends with her, fight her dumb words with smart words, but trying to ruin her life isn't productive. It's just purely motivated by schadenfreude masquerading as righteousness

You don't change minds by being punitive to people who think or say the wrong things, you just punish the honest among the bigots. You still entrench the bigotry, and you end up getting people who learn not to say this shit in public but still vote to empower people who would actually do horrible and bigoted things.

She didn't "know the consequences". There is no evidence that she assumed posting that was going to destroy her life. And her words aren't why we have riots, horrible actions are why we have riots. Mob justice against people like her is why we have Trump, and Trump is why we have such a shit country. So no I don't think empowering that justice helps things.

Again, I think this is much more of people being (justifiably) angry at a lot of the world, and so they want to watch those who are being shitbirds suffer/burn/etc, but if we tried to be constructive and objective I don't think this would actually be the thing most likely to help society. I think it might be the thing that feels the best for angry people, and I get that, but I honestly don't think it helps.

So if the goal is to feel good by being punitive to somebody with a shitty opinion, yes no mercy, no sympathy. If the goal is to help things get better, then call her out and disagree with her, but don't doxx/mob justice her out of her career/life.

Rather than "stahp", I think the protests should become more organized and act with strategy and intent, and more people should join in. This is not what the government wants to happen; they want us to either make a lot of impotent noise and property damage so they can justify fucking us over ever harder, or they want us to just stop criticizing them on all levels, so they can go back to doling out the regular abuses they are fond of. Now that I've stated my opinion, commence to disparaging me for what you assume is my ethnicity and where I live. It will make you appear quite reasonable and not at all in a state of emotional and intellectual panic.

can children be de-burned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEncQKV8k_0&feature=emb_title

i've already kicked my survival show habit so i don't know anything other than that the names i know were eliminated early.

I know none of these things.

The poor dog is a good boi. He was a victim too, Karen choked him for dramatic effect in her phone call.

Your mileage may vary for cancelling people over things that happened in the past, but whenever someone tries to do it with something that was openly aired on broadcast television it just seems stupid.

It has the same energy as when someone much younger than you starts talking down to you about something that happened in the past that they just learned about like everyone else was as clueless as them about it.

What about Robert Downey Jr. black face in that comedy movie with Ben?

arin from omg

Nodaway

We get Omaha, Lincoln, Des Moines, Sioux Falls, AND Kansas City?

God damn, that's like every interesting city in the midwest

i was going to say isn't that the group with the somehow even lesser-known former good day members, but turns out i was thinking of a different nugu group and this is the one with former-YG and pd48's jinny.

New GG, who dis?

Let's attempt (badly) to explain it by looking at the other side:

Capitalism lives on selling everyone superfluous things we don't really need. While this may be a net "bad" for society, it's extra-super-awesome for individuals.

Yeah, it took China and the USSR out of the feudal ages, if the USSR wasn't strong then Nazi Germany would've won WW2

look around you. Almost everything was invented because someone wanted money

This. People do invent and innovate for other reasons, and you can have things like Wikipedia and the people who donate their time to keep it accurate and free. But for the most part, without capitalism we wouldnt be sitting here on phones and computers or playing video games. Not to mention everything else. We just wouldnt have anywhere near the same standard of living. I wish it dont be like it is but it do.

Profit motive incentivizes innovation. If you disagree, break it down already. The public sector lags in innovation, unlike the private sector

God damn it. What is CEs obsession with Salma Hayek?

Then why does America lead with innovation? All these other 'socialist' countries in Europe dont invent at the level America does.