Lurker > Steiner

22. CM Punk
Extha - 4 (22 points)
Whiskey_Nick - 5 (21 points)
Rock - 8 (18 points)
Maniac - 10 (16 points)
junk_funk - 11 (15 points)
illuminatusbubu - 15 (11 points)
scarlet - 19 (7 points)
Mega Mana - 21 (5 points)

21. Jumbo Tsuruta
Semi - 1 (25 points)
voltch - 2 (24 points)
Iceman - 6 (20 points)
Steiner - 9 (17 points)
scarlet - 11 (15 points)
WarThaNemesis - 13 (13 points)
illuminatusbubu - 21 (5 points)

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Sorry for the delay. There will be posts coming - and I'm very happy with the writeups!

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Cloud
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captaincanadian posted...

it's time for an amarant coral push imo

who's with me

i for one shall never make an ff9 save until we get eiko booted
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Yea
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what
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Cloud
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Aerith
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gp odyssey

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TheRock1525 posted...

I've been informed that Jericho cut a promo where he bragged about his ratings with the 18-49 demographics and called himself The Demo God.

i rolled my eyes when he started talking ratings but demo god was pretty funny

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Aerith
Cloud
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I wonder what happens if like, Memphis is the first to go national. They could have done it after the Kaufman angle! Imagine Lawler as the face of US wrestling
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I'll push back a little bit - I don't think wwf peaks as high in the 80s if it's Kerry Von Erich, or Ric Flair, or anybody else you consider for the spot. Really Hogan glued with Vince's promotion and mentality so flawlessly, although it's worth remembering that Hulkamania itself even predates the WWF edition - as Wade Keller is fond of regularly reminding listeners, Hulkamania was born in the AWA, and it was from there that he slotted easily in as the top guy in WWF
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Also initially I wasn't even trying to debate anything - was only trying to educate that your statement was untrue. Sorry if you thought I was being hostile.
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junk_funk posted...

Please educate yourself before saying stupid things eh?

Didn't realize I was sharing a topic with a bunch of professional Meltzers.

"My opinion is right and yours is wrong" are the worst people in the world.

I'm not debating opinions - only the incorrect "facts" you stated. Don't know why you're finding this difficult
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It's not unfair to bring up - I probably would have considered Hogan, and definitely would have considered Benoit, were it not for unpleasant parts of their personal lives. I think Hogan is ranked pretty fairly, too! I just wanted to make clear the premise that he introduced wrestling to the audience was patently false - there's a lot you can credit Hogan with, so let's be accurate.
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junk_funk posted...

I get it you guys hate the WWE. Sheesh. I'm not tearing your favorites down, and just because I watch the most popular wrestling in world and I think they are among the greatest wrestlers in the world I am a newb.

Change of narrative needed in this topic.

Please educate yourself before saying stupid things. I tried to explain the facts to you, since it seemed like you didn't get it. If you disagree with something I'm saying let's talk about it!
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Hulk Hogan brought the wrestling fans to the WWF and the WWF to their biggest audience. He was the star that enabled them to go national and make fans in Florida, Texas, Minnesotta etc into fans of New York wrestling and for that reason is hugely important to the way wrestling is today.

He did not, however, bring the audience to wrestling. There were more people attending live wrestling every week in the 70s than Hogan's run, and I think that's true of television as well.
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Punnyz posted...

Man, the other guys were dicks with the implication, but you just simply have no class. Thats somehow worse

and less funny

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Easy Vote Form:
+10 Super Mario Odyssey
+9 Portal 2
+8 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
+7 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
+6 Super Mario Galaxy 2
+5 Mario Kart 8
+4 Celeste
+3 The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
+2 Super Mario 3D World
+1 Rayman Legends

GP: Odyssey

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yea

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DeepsPraw posted...

I take back all the snide shitty remarks I made about this game

im gonna need a bit longer

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DeepsPraw posted...

There are a myriad of interviews you can read about how they aren't interested in making the same game twice and want new and creative types of games.

there are a myriad of exceptions to this rule that printed nintendo a boatload of money!

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i don't understand why people keep saying "we would like you to make an rpg" and nintendo goes "ah, but how about this"

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I think you're missing the key of how I feel about Edge. I still really like Edge. it's just that looking at all of wrestling through a historical lens... I don't think he's even a name you discuss. Hulk Hogan very clearly is

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Who can be sure!

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MarkS222222222222222 posted...

Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Ultimate Warrior, we could go on and on here

no, absolutely not lol. Hulk Hogan you have a point, none of these should be anywhere near a top 100. Maybe a "most important wrestler to North American Wrestling after 1985" but that is not the topic

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MarkS222222222222222 posted...

Anyone who knowingly omitted Hulk Hogan from their list of Greatest Wrestlers of All Time could not have been all that interested in objectivity.

agree, and Lou Thesz, and Antonio Inoki, and El Santo, and Rikidozan, and Bruno Sammartino, and Jim Londos, and...

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Anyway as for Edge - I tried to skirt around it in the writeup but I'll say it here - Edge was my favourite wrestler for almost his entire run. More importantly he was my favourite wrestler when I was 13, and you all know how important that is. That said, not only did I not vote for him, I think he's massively overrated in this list. One of the more glaring examples of this place's base being way more into 2000s WWE than most broader wrestling communities. That dichotomy between my own fandom and my recognition of historical significance made the Edge writeup really difficult

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guess i'll keep posting these

24. Edge
Whiskey_Nick - 4 (22 points)
ZeroSignal - 4 (22 points)
junk_funk - 10 (16 points)
malyg - 10 (16 points)
Maniac - 16 (10 points)
Extha - 17 (9 points)
paulg - 17 (9 points)

23. Hulk Hogan
junk_funk - 5 (21 points)
Tennis - 5 (21 points)
Sultan - 6 (20 points)
Jakyl - 10 (16 points)
MarkS2 - 12 (14 points)
paulg - 15 (11 points)
Maniac - 24 (2 points)

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trimming the fat

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Eddv posted...

So Otis is gonna end this show as champ isn't he

the horror show is right

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Aerith
Cloud
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illuminatusbubu posted...

If anyone wants to see Eye for an Eye match, you can check out Hansen vs Vader posted above in a meantime.

i just watched it the other night - it's great, but it's not going to be the best eye for an eye match i post!

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ertyu0078 posted...

Now if your exsume me

happily

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srry writeups are coming

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where's the best project

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Aerith
Cloud
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has gaming ended??

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swirIdude posted...

17th! Take that, Steiner!

i have taken it, congrats on being in closer proximity to corrik on this list of quality users


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man 2020 has been wild, who remembers when evil beat naito for the iwgp and intercontinental titles with the help of dick togo dressed as bushi?

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Aerith
Cloud.
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Aerith
Cloud
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It's... It's not my answer but the question is first thought and my brain said Civilization
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I can't believe EVIL turned heel.
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MarkS222222222222222 posted...

Uh oh, something ain't right. I gave Foley 12 points and Sting 13. I'll pm you the pm

hm? Unless I've misunderstood your list - who did you give 11 points to?

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wish i ever spoke as eloquently as scarlet but i get pissed off at the same old stuff and just start rage posting

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lmaoooo "guys im literally too fucking stupid to read AND i never bother reading anything ANYWAY so you definitely cant hold me accountable for ANYTHING I SAY - but, hang on, i do recognise that username"

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please none of you be stupid enough to fall for ulti's "i really should have known better" shit. he knew better. i can believe he didn't read the article but the bad faith argument is all he cared about entering here

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Murphiroth posted...

he [...] can't [...] read

you know this is a fair point too


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