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Timohtep posted...

You take internet accusations of racism seriously but not threats.

Okay

What? There's a clear difference between not being in a good enough place to not be scared of internet death threats, and being annoyed by being called a racist on the internet.

That is such a weak god damn argument, my dude.
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Tenlaar posted...

You're still wrong. He implied it, you inferred it. But it doesn't matter because all you're interested in doing here is blaming the people who don't do bad things for not liking bad things happening because you think people who want to do bad things should have the internet as their playground.

Yeah, my bad. It's 8AM and I didn't sleep last night.

And no, I'm doing none of that. Unless you're implying that the player shouldn't censor someone's name before posting it on his twitter with almost a million followers.

What, is it okay to sick your followers on people now?

And considering you just pointed out the difference of implying and inferring, you of all people should know that what you're implying is entirely incorrect to anything I said.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

You're getting awfully defensive for "just an internet" comment man. Relax. I never called you a racist. Just blaming the player for reporting that is fucking dumb.

Yes, the kid shouldn't have been doxxed. The kid shouldn't have used his real name on an account that he used to send racist messages to a black athlete too.

The fact that you're so kid to admonish the player but also so quick to defend the kid is fucking sad.

It is an internet comment, but I sure as hell am not gonna be made out to be like I'm a racist. Maybe make a proper argument.

I never blamed him for that. I blamed him for not censoring and posting it on his twitter with hundreds of thousands of followers. If that isn't trying to gather an army, what is?

And I think the kid is an asshole. I said that in the topic already.

Sphyx posted...

And you need a spine.

Not the people whining about internet comments, though? Damn. Least you can acknowledge you need glasses tho.
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uwa ej posted...

I don't understand why anyone drinks then t considering they have no nutritional value

Because it tastes good? What kind of thought process removes taste from the equation?
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Antifar posted...

I'd just rather have an internet with fewer rape and death threats, myself.

I would too.

But do you think that will ever in a million years happen?
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Tenlaar posted...

No, because you're using infer incorrectly.

Infer: deduce or conclude (information) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements.

I guess you're right. He didn't use any reasoning or evidence.

My bad.
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Antifar posted...

This produces an internet run by the threatmakers.

Or, alternatively, it produces less suicides and better mental health in situations where people who don't need to be on the internet are on it.
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Sphyx posted...

I have. And you've turned the latter half of the topic into a big one-man grizzlefest.

You have, yet you can't see everyone whining? Damn. Dude, sorry to be the one to break it to you. But you might need glasses.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

I never called you a racist? I said you were justifying said racist kid for being a racist.

For someone who kept throwing out the "learn how to read" insult, maybe you're the one who should learn.

Okay. Let me simplfy this for you.

You posted an exaggerated comment of me saying "it's his fault he's black".

In what world does saying something like that automatically not make someone a racist? Would it be better if I said you inferred that I was racist? Weak shit, either way.
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Always down for some P4G love.

Let's all talk about how Marie is best girl tho.
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shockthemonkey posted...

lmfao how badly do you have to tell on yourself to argue for hours that racist death threats over the internet are fine?

I honestly can't tell if you had a stroke or not during that sentence. Are you okay? Can you rewrite it again in English?
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Eh. I stopped drinking soda for about 6 months, had a single one and it was like crack.

Idk what you're talking about, brother.
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lww99 posted...

my company is dumb af.

you put in the request and hope that it gets approved, but you dont actually know until the week before.

They cant say if theyll have enough guards 5 months ahead of time, apparently.

Like someone said, go to HR.

This could just be your company trying to screw you over despite some possible policies being in place. They don't care, as long as you work, you know? If you don't put in the effort, no one will.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

He says as he justifies a racist being a racist.

"It's the players fault he's black and it's the players fault that he made a kid send racist remarks to him! Why didn't the player do anything different!!!!!"

Dude. Can you stop making up shit? I didn't say any of that. The only thing the player is guilty of is not censoring the kid's name.

What the fuck is wrong with you? Can't have a proper discussion without resorting to calling me a racist?

That's fucking disgusting, dude.
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Foppe posted...

https://youtu.be/nz8JGww6ukY
This is an old homemade version that should give you the idea.

That's gonna be crazy awesome for sure lol. I'm pretty hype.
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Timohtep posted...

Stop fucking trying to blame people for being attacked when they have done nothing wrong.

Stop telling me what to do, maybe?

Sphyx posted...

No, i'm referring to you.

I'm not the one whining lol. Read the topic, dude.

Tenlaar posted...

All that you're doing is advocating for an internet in which you get to be as big of an asshole as you want to be with no consequences. It's transparent and pretty pathetic.

You spent half the topic playing armchair psychologist. And being pretty damn wrong on all counts.

I'm just advocating for people to look out for their best interests and keep the internet a place where every word you say isn't put on some sort of permanent record, ready to ruin your life.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

"I'm not trying to coddle him. Internet threats don't count as real threats because it's the internet!"

They don't count as real threats though. It's the fucking internet lol.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

Only on CE is the person who's having racist insults hurled at him the "bad guy" and the poor little racist is the "good guy."

Are you seriously justifying the player not having the foresight to censor the kid's name? You're basically justifying the doxing.
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Tenlaar posted...

Aaaand once again, "if you don't like being threatened then you probably shouldn't be on the internet." Stop acting like the internet was made to be a new wild west where racists and edgelords have a free pass to be the shittiest people they can be.

No, I'm saying it for your own personal safety. If you can't take death or rape threats on the internet, let alone insults or critique, it is within your own best interest to get off the internet. For your own safety. A LOT of people live in a headspace where they take this shit way too seriously, especially insults, and live their life in fear. Or even, god forbid, taking their own life.

It's something I've always stood by. I got thick skin, so I have nothing to worry about. I wish everyone did, honestly.
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InfinityMonster posted...

He was taken into custody and released without being charged. In the UK, offensive and racist shitposting can get you in trouble.

As long as he is not doxxed to the public, he'll move on easily. However, I think he has been doxxed, which is fucked up and unnecessary. Kids do have protection at that age, so it should remain a private matter between the police, family and the player.

I agree with that sentiment. I think the kid should've got a talking to. Maybe even a visit from said player so he can see the wrong that he did. The player posted his instagram name without censoring it, though.

So I take back what I said now, though. He is at fault. The player pretty much unwittingly doxxed him.

Tenlaar posted...

The really funny thing here is that Slayer_22 is serving as a perfect example of the importance of things like this being enforced when children are young. He is the product of the position that he is defending, somebody who thinks being a bad person on the internet doesn't count.

Protip: you can't actually get a degree in armchair psychology. It was just a joke.
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Materus posted...

Y'all would never have survived XBL chat, sensitive ass fucks.

Of course not. They'd be crying so god damn hard.

Tenlaar posted...

"It's just on the internet so it doesn't matter durr de dur"

So, do you take all internet threats seriously? If so, I'd suggest to get off the internet quick unless you wanna head on over to a safespace or something lol.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Imagine defending someone saying racist things because "he's 12 and a kid" and "it's the internet!"

Literally smh.

Again; no one wants this kid to do hard time. They just want him to see that what he did was wrong and fucked up and to not do it anymore. Your coddling won't teach him shit either. He needs to learn that what he did was irresponsible and that if he continues down that path, then life isn't going to be that great for him.

I'm. Not. Saying. To. Coddle. Him.

Ffs, read what I post.

I said a visit from the police would be perfectly fine. Being taken into custody? No.

Please, READ WHAT I SAY instead of skimming and assuming. Thanks, bro.
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Antifar posted...

Now, is that good?

Idgaf to be honest. It's the internet. What the hell are some anons gonna do to me?
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That's insane.

I need to see video of this in action.
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Sphyx posted...

Hilarious, considering what you've turned this topic into.

Buncha crybabies lol.

Tenlaar posted...

Know what else has got to be absolutely awful? Waking up in the morning, checking your phone, and finding racist messages from somebody along with threats that they're going to show up at your house if you do your job. It's strange that you don't seem to give the slightest shit about that beyond saying that the player is being too sensitive.

No, wait, it's not strange. It's fucking disgusting.

I got death and rape threats for badmouthing video games before. And if you tried hard enough, you could easily find my full name on the internet(idiot kid). So what?

Timohtep posted...

"Villa vowed to ban the perpetrator for life, and West Midlands Police have now confirmed an arrest.

They tweeted: "We were alerted to a series of racist messages sent to a footballer today and after looking into them and conducting checks, we have arrested a boy."

This player had no idea that the kid was 12 fucking years old. Stop using "Oh but he was 12 he starts obviously weren't serious" as an excuse. It's already fucking invalid, but it's even more invalid when you see that they LITERALLY HAD NO IDEA IT WAS A KID

Considering someone found his school, his name, his town, all in like...an hour? I think his age was probably pretty public knowledge lol.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/LG__7/status/1282301438677442561

"LG
@LG__7

Jul 12
the police can fine him, maybe give him some community service. the real pain comes in being publicly known as a racist and having his name plastered all over social media so he struggles to get whatever shitty job he wants in the future.

plus i'm sure there's plenty of blacks at jack dolans school, _______________(lists his school)- let's see what they think to do."

Totally justified, am I right, fellas?
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

And deserved, because that's as far as it went

I mean, the kid is branded for life as a racist.

People were doxxing him as soon as the dude posted what he did(someone posted his school).

That is all okay for a 12 year old, right? Deserved.

sktgamer_13dude posted...

I still dont see how hes a kid is an argument.

You should be showing the child that this behavior isnt ok, not excusing because hur dur its a kid and kids do dumb things.

I think a visit from the police is fine.

Being taken into custody isn't.
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Timohtep posted...

Tell me where the guy knew that this kid was 12.

Also, if someone who knew my full name, profession, and exactly what I looked like threatened to come to my house I absolutely fucking would take that seriously.

I think you're underestimating the fact that this guy is not anonymous to this kid. He's part of a fucking football team, everyone knows who he is. He is not some anonymous dick head on the internet.

He didn't know until afterwards. Then he said he completely supported it on his Twitter.

Would you take a 12 year old's threat to dress as a ghost seriously? Like...really? Lol. That's kinda sad.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

You're entirely too dismissive of what he said and drastically exaggerating the severity of his punishment.

Yeah.

Because he's 12. Is a 12 year old REALLY that scary to you?

Being in police custody at 12 years of age has got to be absolutely awful. And if you think this shit will be kept under wraps in the future, you're wrong. I heard about my neighbor getting arrested before his parents did, once. This kid will be labelled as a racist for life. And with the way the world is, it'll never end up good for him. I don't think a 12 year old deserves that punishment.
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Guys, 100% lol.
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Tenlaar posted...

It seems like you did or do shitty "edgy" racist shit on the internet and are desperately clinging to some rationale that you have built up in order to tell yourself you didn't really do anything wrong because it was just the internet.

No, I didn't. I already said the worst shit I ever did on the internet in this thread. But good job trying to play armchair psychologist. You and skt could be a good team. Armchair psych and lying pundit.
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Timohtep posted...

Yes? This guy isn't some rando on the internet, he's a football player. The kid could find his address, easily. He specifically stated the conditions of the threat. You are being ridiculously obtuse about this.

And you're taking a 12 year old's comments way too seriously. Jesus. Did you call your mom every time someone threatened to fuck her when you played CoD?

sktgamer_13dude posted...

You literally said he shouldn't face any punishment because "he's a kid" and "it's the internet."

I never said he needed to be put in the murderer block and get roughed up, but he should face some kind of punishment. Getting arrested probably scared the kid shitless and maybe he won't be a fuck anymore. And if he is, then it's his fault, not the fault of the football player who "tattled" on him. The kid is responsible for his words.

Yeah, I said "edgy shit" as a child, but I never told a black person they better not do "x" else I'll show up at their house dressed up as a ghost and then send a KKK picture along with it so they get the message. Never sent someone a box of cereal photoshopped to "C*** Flakes" either. I guess I must be the weird one.

There's a difference between "edgy" and being a racist.

I am sorry, but I don't seem to remember 'literally' saying any of that.

No, you didn't. But you sure as hell twisted my words pretty fucking well, just like I did yours.

There is a difference, but that's shit you can literally find on google. You're putting waaaayyyyy too much stock in what he sent him.
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nemu posted...

The statement of coming to his house in KKK garb. I don't in a million years think the kid would have ever done anything like that, but a threat is a threat. Those should be pretty zero tolerance in our current society. I think a very stern visit from the police would be a suitable enough punishment.

That's fair. I can agree with that.

But taken into custody by them? Fuck that.

alimajor posted...

Because this isnt scared straight, theyre not bringing him to jail just to scare him. Theyre bringing him to jail because what he did was wrong and hes being held accountable for what he did. Hell either learn that what he did was wrong or hell keep f***ing up and getting arrested until he learns his lesson.

Ive been arrested multiple times because of stupid s*** that Ive done, then I finally learned my lesson and my life has gotten better since.

Better he learn his lesson at 12 than as a rage filled 30 year with a career/family to lose. Long term hell be fine, people have done worse as kids and have rebounded to become better adults because they held accountable and learned from their mistakes.

Dude, scared straight did the same shit.

It solved nothing. In fact, it did about the same as total inaction.

This right here will do the same.

This will brand him for life as a racist. He can't change that now. Is that really okay to you?

Tenlaar posted...

Is it exactly what you're saying. All that you've done is go off about everybody except the kid.

The kid is a little shit. An asshole. A prick. Every child is a little shit, though. He's judt a little worse. What's new there?
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Timohtep posted...

If you don't see how "better not score you black **** or I'll come to your house dressed as a ghost" accompanied by photos of the KKK is a threat, I don't know what to tell you dude.

Is the threat that at 12 year old will come dressed as a ghost really that bad? Shit, I've been told people will rape my mom in her sleep on XBL. Better take those seriously now.

/s
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Tenlaar posted...

So not only is it the player who's really at fault here for being too sensitive, but it's also his fault that the kid is going to be even more racist now. What a piece of shit this player is, going around making people be so racist! Why won't somebody stop him?

Not what I said at all. But good job twisting the truth. You'd be an excellent news pundit.
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

"It's ok to be racist! He's just a kid and it's the internet!"

That is, by far, one of the dumbest arguments I've ever heard.

Well, yeah.

"12 year olds should be thrown in prison with child molesters and murderers!"

That is also a dumb argument. If you wanna twist words to make a fake argument you can tear down, GENERALLY it'll be a pretty fucking stupid one.
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nemu posted...

Yes, you should be able to say whatever you want, with the exclusion of threats of harm, on the internet without facing legal consequences. People can block people. Platforms can ban people based on their ToS. Though in this case, there is a potential threat of harm, so it's not as cut and dry as if the kid had simply left it at racist insults. I think all threats should be taken seriously considering what some kids have done.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wilfriedzaha/status/1282273543208808450/photo/1

What threats lol
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sktgamer_13dude posted...

So we should do nothing which would embolden the racist because nothing detrimental happened to him so the act must be ok.

Got it.

Yes.

Because it's the fucking internet.
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Ruvan22 posted...

So there shouldn't be any rules on the internet? You should be able to say any racist/homophobic/violent thing you want as other people "should be able to take it or gtfo the internet"?

Yeah, because it's the fucking internet lmao. What, do you cry over internet comments?

sktgamer_13dude posted...

If kids are so impressionable, an arrest will certainly show him what he did was wrong.

idk why people have to trip over themselves when someone who says racist things is getting their just desserts.

As I said, the scared straight program didn't work. Why would this?

sktgamer_13dude posted...

People getting mad that he's getting arrested are just upset that people saying racist things are getting their just desserts.

They want to be able to say whatever they want with no consequences because deep down, they agree with the message the kid is sending.

The kid isn't sending a message. Did you read what he said? It was dumbass meme worthy shit. You'd find more offensive stuff from an 8 year old on roblox.
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alimajor posted...

Yeah, what the kids did on 4chan wasnt right either.

If hes already resentful enough at 12 to make racist threats over the internet then he wasnt naturally going to become less resentful. Example, those 4chan kids you referenced earlier are racist s*** talking adults today because nobody arrested them and held them accountable at 12.

This will hopefully give him a wake up call or hell just continue down the path he was on.

First off, before I address that bolded comment, I never said he was resentful. It looked like the kid's posts were just racist memes. He literally said 'I'm gonna show up dressed as a ghost' as one of his comments. He wasn't fucking serious. He is just an idiot kid. One who will resent the dude growing up and likely go in the wrong direction because now he's the 'racist' kid. News will travel, and that'll be what he's known as for the rest of his life.

Imagine the worst thing you ever said. Now imagine someone taking that and branding you with it for life. Would you resent shit because of it?

As for the bold comment: it NEVER works. Look at the Scared Straight program. It NEVER worked. It solved nothing. Why would this be any different?
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I remember when I was younger, Obama mentioned that it was a rule that he had his phone taken away at the start of his tenure as president.

Why tf didn't this apply to the chucklehead?
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Are we talking about the racist jackasses or just a blanket statement towards everyone who votes Trump?

Cuz if the latter, yes. Not everyone is a prick.

The former? No, because racist asshats don't deserve respect lol.

Assuming of course we're talking about the worst of the worst for the trump support category of course.
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Ruvan22 posted...

So you believe the footballer is at fault here?

No, but I do think he needs to gtfo the internet. If he freaks out that bad over the interner and needs to set up a hugbox with his fans, he needs to stay off the internet because it simply isn't a healthy place for him. For his own sanity if anything.

The police are at fault for taking the action in the first place.
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Tryhaptaward posted...

The worst things as a kid I did online was telling randoms on WC III that I'm fucking their mom

I used to go on omegle and target whatever defining feature people would list. British? Tea drinker, queen sucks, etc. French? HONHONHON, snails, baguette. American? Fat, lazy, etc.

That's the worst I ever did lol.
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Hmm.

Classic Jontron or Robbaz literally whenever are my ususl go-tos.
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If someone's heart is in the right place, it doesn't mean their actions should be supported.

If someone wanted to protect the world, but their idea of this was killing all the poor people so only the rich survivived in a single city utopia...their heart is in the right place, right? Should their vision be realized?

Of course not.

Context among other things matter.
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divot1338 posted...

False. Donald Trump could not have fucked Princess Diana.

Because he is a fat, disgusting American turd.

Imma be honest. When that prick was young, he wasn't ugly.

Still a prick, but he wasn't ugly.
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Foppe posted...

Just Resetera being Resetera.

If you think that's bad, there's a site that goes through and actually finds every moderation on resetera.

It's just as bad as you'd imagine.
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I know this is old, but I haven't seen his review of TLOU2.

Is there any transphobic comments even in it? Can someone prove it, maybe with some timestamps?

I'm thinking REEEEEsetera is just whining because their bastion got a bad score.
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philsov posted...

How the fuck is he supposed to shoot the gun?

Power of imagination.
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He's fucking twelve and the pictures and messages the dude got were shit you'd see on 4chan.

Good lord, the world is turning into a buncha crybabies. Why the hell is this dude on the internet if he can't take a single dumbass kid insulting him? And why the hell is a 12 year old kid being taking into police custody for saying stupid shit?

Ugh. The world just gets shittier and shitter, I think. This kid is gonna grow up and be way more resentful than he was then(his message was literally a racist shitpost) and this is going to change nothing, all because some guy got offended over the internet. Lol.
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