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did you skip 37?

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Coup might be my favorite filler game.The teams expansion is ok but I don't need it.

Never played g54, it sounds interesting but I fear it would make it less of a fillerish game

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Zombicide is alright, but eh. I think like you I have only played tutorial games or one offs.

I love 7 wonders though. I need to try more games like it (besides sushi go). Definitely my favorite game on your list so far to go.

San Juan and Dice Forge both sound like games I would like

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cyko posted...

I never played plain old Sushi Go, but Sushi Go Party has been a big hit with almost all of the casual gamers I have introduced it to. And it moves very fast - even with 8 players.

Hardback was okay, but being a deckbuilder, you cycle through the same cards. And the key to winning almost any deckbuilder is to keep your deck as small as possible to keep pulling the combo you put together as mich as possible. So, Why bother trying to be creative when It was worth more points to spell the same couple of words over and over? It got stale quickly.

Having never played paperback or hardback, i feel like not making words reusable would be an easy house rule to fix that?

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That sounded interesting as an alternative to uno but then i realized the only people i would play uno with is my grandmother and she wouldn't understand anything more complex. And if i'm playing a game with others i'd rather play something other than an uno variant >.>

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TTR > Catan > carcassonne is also my rankings of the gateway games.

Admittedly I have only played carcassonne with 4 where it just felt like a luck dominated game.

Catan (admittedly I think i've only ever played with one of the expansions) has too much of the win more effect. Also usually you can't trade with people that are new to it because they don't really know what they need.

Ticket to Ride is something super easy to get people into and fun. It's a little simple in strategy but there is enough there to be entertaining, and turns are fast.

Also tag. A few games on here that sound interesting and a few that i've played that I would rate (slightly) higher but excited to see what the top ranks are

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Wondering about what are some good options for phones nowadays. I don't really do a ton of gaming on it, but I still want a smartphone to have the option and I need stuff like Google Authenticator for work.

Looking to stay on android but pretty open besides that.

Two things I found looking around:
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/motorola-moto-g7-with-64gb-memory-cell-phone-unlocked-ceramic-black/6324277.p?skuId=6324277
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Factory-Unlocked-Phone/dp/B082VYKB4F/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&ascsub=undefined&th=1&linkCode=ll1&tag=switounlnew-20&linkId=345bb10cb9a9586b95d55549e3e40dd9&language=en_US

Both seem like good deals but I don't really keep up on phones so I don't know how the phones are. I'm currently on a galaxy S6 so will I feel like I'm taking a step back with the Moto G7 or is it more powerful due to being newer despite being budget. Is the S10+ that much better for the price comparison. (I can easily afford either but I don't want to spend the extra money if i don't need to)

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foolm0r0n posted...

Dude practice your analogies. But yes we get that you think using vacation days is some form of lottery. We're telling you you're wrong. A vacation day is a contract that gives you 8 hours of salary for free, with some restrictions. That's why when the company goes under they still have to pay it out.

This actually isn't true in every state.

Vacation laws at a federal level are pretty awful, a lot of states make them somewhat sane.

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skullbone posted...

Yeah Vampyr and Subliminal for 6.99 each are the two that caught my eye. They're both cheap enough that I could see them being free games though

Ah true, I already bought vampyr so worse case i lost 7 bucks which is nbd.

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Vampyr for 6.99 is pretty tempting

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we used to, they were useless. now we dont

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I would stay at your current job tbh.

Higher potential upside, you like working there and you are appreciated there.


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Moonroof posted...

Idk. I bought it last year. DQ11.

Then you have the old model.

Your probably looking at about 3 hours for that game. Here's a chart https://reviews2go.com/2018/08/06/nintendo-switch-battery-life-chart-2/

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Do you have the new model or the old model?

What game are you playing?

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tag. will have to look into this

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I wish i saw this yesterday since im also in vegas for reinvent. Staying in venetian but i fly out today

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Lolo_Guru posted...

Mulling over the idea of getting myself or my brother a new computer tonight.

He clearly needs it more working off a 6 year-old laptop but it's kind of a lot to spend on a gift.

Is your current one better than his? If so buy yourself one and give him your old one.
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swirIdude posted...

I've heard those Vegas buffets are not worth the price.

You have heard incorrectly.

Agreed.

Unless you come from some place where the cost of living is real low, but then i would wonder if you think anything in vegas is worth the price.
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I feel like I naturally intermittent fast or come close to it. I usually skip breakfast, eat lunch at 1130 and eat dinner 6-7. Some days its a little bit later but usually around there.

Seeing that explanation i'll try to do it more purposefully though
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LordoftheMorons posted...

An average order of fries has gotta have more than 25

Maybe a small order at mcdonalds does, a large probably has triple that at least
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Now that I think about it, I think the reason foolmo thinks remote is superior to in person is the lack of strong rules and boundaries in most in-office places.

Remote basically guarantees you get flow time while most places aren't strict enough in person.

I think a theoretical high functioning highly organized in person workplace would overall be more effective than remote. One where you aren't allowed to interrupt someone except for emergencies or during very specific times of the day (last 2 hours usually since a lot of people usually work better in the morning). Besides that only async communication. It gives you best of both worlds, less random distractions but still the ability to get the benefits of in person communication.

Although clearly this ideal doesn't exist and will likely never exist, and I would say on average a remote work place would get you a good chunk more flow time than 95% of office environments.
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I think foolmo's point about being able to learn to work remote is valid. Whether it's quite as effective as in person is a different topic that i don't really care to discuss.

But I think a big caveat is that a new developer who needs guidance will not learn as fast remote. Additionally a bad developer will probably be worse remote.

A team of experienced good developers working remote can easily learn and become effective working remote but it's a lot of if's. It definitly can work, and in some case the slight loss in productivey may not outweigh some of the advantages.
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Working from home 100% of the time is fine if the following criteria is met:

-Don't need to do anything physical at the location
-Team is mostly people working from home or you have very limited meetings/need for contact
-You are largely self-sufficient
-You are able to effectively work from home
-You are able to show that you are producing results while working from home or are at a small enough company where they can't check

You can work from home exclusively still even if all of those aren't met. We have some people in our department that do that despite not meeting the second. They were still more effective when they came in sometimes due to communication being easier for some things in person unless everyone is used to doing it exclusively online.
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foolm0r0n posted...

Colegreen_c12 posted...

I can't say one way or the other, but the point is that it's not black and white. Both have their pros and cons.

This is so centrist I almost threw up

I guess saying I can't say one way or the other is probably going too far. Probably went too far trying to sound neutral there for the sake of the argument
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HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Colegreen_c12 posted...

This quote is what the real problem I have with what he's trying to say. He acts like corporations are inherently evil when in reality they are just a tool. If someone uses a corporation to make a bunch of money to donate to others I would argue that the corporation is good. Because the people behind it are good. Separating corporations and capitalism from people just show to me a fundamental misunderstanding of what they are. Boycotting something is a facet of capitalism after all

If capitalism as a tool is only good if the people with the money are good and choose to do good things, why don't we instead take their money and ensure it's going to good things?

edit: fine, "not evil"

And who do you propose does that? The government? Then you are just trusting the government to choose to do good things with it instead of an individual which always goes well.

At the end of the day some human is going to decide what to do with the money and it can either be good or bad. The best you can do is put in checks and rules to make sure it does as best as it can. And you can do that in a capitalist economy as well as a socialist/communist society.

Additionally, say we were in a purely communist society like we are suggesting, say it somehow magically only has altruistic people in charge. Are you ok with the fact that you may be stunting innovation? Is a capitalist society that innovates enough to solve world hunger and global warming in 100 years better? Or a is a communist society that has slower innovation but more equality but doesn't solve those problems until 200 years better?

I can't say one way or the other, but the point is that it's not black and white. Both have their pros and cons.
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

And I don't think it matters if capitalism is "just a tool" if we keep having those using that tool abusing it to put others down. Which will continue to happen as long as it is a thing, sorry to say even with your saviors Bill Gates and Warren Buffet as you keep citing.

I never said capitalism was "good". I just said it was not "evil". There may be better alternatives that could be inherently good. But a lot of those things are only even possible after piggybacking on what capitalism has brought us.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

also, no fucking way sweatshops could exist in a socialist society. a socialist society would have shit like minimum wage, workers' rights, etc. that would prevent sweatshops from happening.

That's uh, not true. If you had a socialist society in a very very poor society everyone would essentially be working in a sweatshop. Or do you think a poor society could make money out of nowhere and give everyone great lives
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Colegreen_c12 posted...

Additionally you are blaming capitalism or corporations for this, when really both of those things are just tools. What you really should be blaming are the people making those decisions.

i mean, if your argument is "corporations aren't evil because they're an abstract concept without consciousness or the ability to think and make decisions but the people owning those corporations ARE evil," sure, i can agree with that. that seems like kind of a pedantic argument, though. obviously, when perfectchaosz said "corporations," he was talking about the people owning the corporations.

His argument was that the concept of corporations are evil because they try to make money. I am willing to say that if you want to view a corporation as evil if it run by evil people that is fine. But even in that case I would say that some corporations are evil, some are good and some are neutral. Same as people. Corporations are basically an extension of people so saying they are universally evil means you think people are universally evil which is what I take offense to.

Mind you I don't think people are universally good either, I actually think people are generally neutral.

PerfectChaosZ posted...

But we know all corporations are bad. And who doesn't think they aren't bad. They're literally trying to pragmatically and ruthlessly make as much money as possible, which is bad, you know? It screws people over. If you're religious at all it's called one of the worst sins in the Bible.

This quote is what the real problem I have with what he's trying to say. He acts like corporations are inherently evil when in reality they are just a tool. If someone uses a corporation to make a bunch of money to donate to others I would argue that the corporation is good. Because the people behind it are good. Separating corporations and capitalism from people just show to me a fundamental misunderstanding of what they are. Boycotting something is a facet of capitalism after all
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Colegreen_c12 posted...

Anyways i might check back in to see if anyone seriously wants to try and show how corporations or capitalism are evil.

please defend sweatshops

If you think sweatshops are a defining feature of capitalism you misunderstand what capitalism is.

Alternatives such as communism or socialism could just as easily have these same things, in some cases they could be worse. At least in a capitalist society workers theoretically could work somewhere else (yes I know that in practical conditions that isn't the case). In a communist society the same thing could easily happen, and in that case you wouldn't have a choice.

Additionally you are blaming capitalism or corporations for this, when really both of those things are just tools. What you really should be blaming are the people making those decisions. Yes capitalism lets people in power and people with influence make shitty choices, but that is in the case in basically every alternative as well.

Additionally I am not arguing for unrestricted capitalism, I am all for government regulations to a degree for protections against this stuff.

Basically capitalism is not evil because it is basically a tool. A tool can not be good or evil, merely the user of the tool can be good or evil. People have used capitalism to do good things for the world, such as advancing technology including healthcare by figuring out how to mass produce it and make it accessible. People building up great wealth and using it to give back to the world such as Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, all the while creating large numbers of jobs. People have also used it to do shitty things but a lot of those shitty things would have happened regardless.

If you really think society would have progressed as far as it would have without capitalism, I don't know what to tell you. If you think some examples of bad things it does makes it inherently evil I don't know what to tell you.
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Anyways i might check back in to see if anyone seriously wants to try and show how corporations or capitalism are evil.

I expect most people will just justify my condescending attitude by showing they can't argue any of my points and would rather just attack me or just blankently dismiss my argument because it doesn't conform to their world view.

I'm not arrogant enough to think I'm being likable here, but that was never my goal. My goal was primarily entertainment, and a small part wanted to see if i could get anyone to think critically about things. (I'm not saying that people in this topic aren't, a few are but a large majority are not).

And as a follow up response to @PerfectChaosZ. Don't assume that I have no strong morality or conviction of my own. Although I have no idea how you would get that from my post in the first place. I simply think about it logically and choose to embrace capitalism and build up wealthy as much as I can during my life to have the greatest impact when I die. If for example I could save 10 people a year or build up my wealth throughout my life and save 5000 people when I die I choose to later simply. My conviction is to do what I know will have the greatest benefit rather than care what people think of me or to have the "good" point of view when I really know it's the lazy point of view.
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PerfectChaosZ posted...

I bet your tongue is solid black from all the boots you've been polishing today colegreen. I'm always annoyed by people who want everyone to know how 'amused' they are by the subject as if that somehow makes them beyond it. It just makes you a bore because that's what pseudo-intellectuals say to make themselves feel smart and above it all when it's really because they have no strong conviction or morality of their own so seeing it in others fills them with shame and rage.

Im sorry if you cant fool yourself into thinking your a good person after my posts.

I know im not a good person. But i also am not an evil person. Im a selfish person, same as you. The only difference is i acknolwedge it while you try to run from it.
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And anyone who thinks they are better than a corporation should really look in a mirror and ask themselves if they are doing it to make the world better or to make themselves look better.

Giving up your chick-fil-a to eat is great and all, but if you really want to be altruistic you should be living on the bare minimum and donating the rest of your money to starving kids in africa. Obviously you'll be able to find a perfect charity that does nothing wrong and has no demerits.

Although really thats inefficient. Sure you'll make yourself feel better but is that really the greatest good you can do.

What you can instead do is build up a company, take a bunch of money from rich people and save up large amounts of money. You can be greedy and donate to charities only for tax breaks as you acquire more and more wealth. You then reinvest that money to make more money until you have built yourself a corporation. You are the epitome of capitalism.

Then when you are near retirement in your late years you start your own charity, one you make sure is doing a good thing and help the world far more than whatever boycotting you plan on doing.

If you think you have helped the world more than Bill Gates or Warren Buffet, both capitalist, than it must be nice to live in your own world where you pick and choose the best way to help the world instead of doing critical thinking and thinking about what ACTUALLY helps the world.
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Xiahou Shake posted...

^ For the uninitiated, that's what privilege looks like.

^ For the uninitiated that's what an ad hominem fallacy looks like due to not knowing how to argue.
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People who think capitalism is bad or evil are honestly some of the funniest I read.

This whole topic has been entertaining.

Real talk though, without capitalism do you think anyone would have figured out how to mass produce medicine to sell it nearly as fast? Do you think we would have had cars or planes as early as we did?
Capitalism has probably saved more lives by increasing the life expectancy than the bad it does.

Human greed is the greatest source of innovation.

(PS: People saying corporations are evil may actually be more hilarious)
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1. Was rear ended while completely stopped at a red light. Guy hit me going maybe 10 miles an hour but my car was considered totaled.
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all of this trashing talk gave me a cool idea.

What if instead of a small 10 card deck you started with a 25 card deck, but every purchase replaced a card in your hand when you bought it (ie basically buy=trash), also make it easy to buy multiple cards per turn.

So then you have to determine whether you want to rotate your cards faster for less powerful cards (ie trash-heavy) or keep the weak cards around for longer but only get high quality cards.

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It depends what kind of car dealer but i would say the chepest level of car i would trust are in the 4-6k range without trade in.

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Papa John's literally always has a 30% off coupon you can find online. And it stacks with other deals.

I think last time I ordered I got two xl pizzas, a free cheesy bread with tax, delivery and tip for like 30?

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Without spoilers is this game worth it if i like danganronpa, and really like PW and 999 series.

Or should I wait till it goes on sale.

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tag

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I have played 2 episodes of it and it's pretty great imo. I do not know if that spoiler is true or not, nor do I particularly care.

It's a pretty fun telltale style game that has a skill tree thats fun along with some other stuff. Definitly my top 3 of the genre (I haven't played a ton, other two are LiS and Tales from the borderland) and once I finish it it might be number one.

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Tom Bombadil posted...

How much of that is one location, though? That's probably enough to get the store in trouble on some level.

It's very possible this is a franchise location which means one guy lost that out of pocket and the overall company didn't feel it all.

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Any employer worth anything will give them enough severance to have time to find another job. I would tell someone I liked, but I wouldn't bother for someone I didn't like. (Note if I knew they would get no severance I would tell them regardless but I also wouldn't be working for the employer in the first place)

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Just take the 500 tbh

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At my work its a pretty clear label your food and date it or it'll get thrown out.

Shit sits in there forever otherwise

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I kind of feel like cat's in the cradle fits

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Mr Crispy posted...

I think it's the best science game, but I wouldn't say that it has the mass appeal that Steins Gate has due to the content and themes. Also think a lot of people wouldn't necessarily like or appreciate certain aspects of the direction it goes in/the endings.

Like, SG is to Higurashi as CC is to Umineko if that makes sense? Maybe not to that extreme, but the general idea is kind of similar so I wouldn't necessarily recommend it casually.

Sounds interesting enough, I like SG, Higurashi and Umineko well enough. (Higurashi is probably my least favorite but still fine). I ended up picking it up, i'll have to see how i feel about the endings when i get to them


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How's Chaos;Child if anyones played it

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

You don't just play your hand, you play against the dealer. If the dealer shows 6, unless you are at 11 or less, you shouldn't hit, and "playing wrong" can affect the other players.

If it's low stakes it's not really a big deal, but if I'm betting hundreds of dollars, I'd rather some dude not bust himself on the card that should have busted the dealer.

No you are 100% wrong and don't understand basic probability. The top card is equally likely to make him bust as the second from the top. You are just as likely to screw the table as save the table.


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greengravy294 posted...

Yeah I get that part but a dealer could just lie to me and I wouldnt know any better!!!!

Don't bother playing if theres nobody else at the table.

If there is someone else at the table they are probably playing pass/fail. You win at the same time as them so if they win you win.

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