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Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/18/19 9:53:57 AM #246 | averagejoel posted... or maybe the audience of comedy is evolving, and comedians should evolve as well if they don't want to get left behind There are plenty of unfunny comedians out there for people like you. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/18/19 9:48:31 AM #245 | legendary_zell posted... Maybe this rule will help the socially challenged citizens of CE understand offensive comedy and when it's okay. When you make a "joke" disparaging a group of people, it's not going to be considered funny if it's not obviously a joke or if it seems to be your actual opinion on the subject. You can't "joke" about hating Asian people when you actually seem to dislike them. Yeah, lets ban comedy podcasts! --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 11:06:15 PM #194 | AlisLandale posted... That whole video actually is pretty condemning of his actual rant, because his rant isn't structured anything like his actual comedy. That just further makes it feel like genuine contempt for another race. Have you ever watched a comedy podcast before? You realize its not scripted, right? Theyre mostly just riffing and trying to find something funny to say in real time. You cant expect a polished bit like his stand-up. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 11:03:56 PM #193 | AlisLandale posted... Complaining that "Asians trying to learn English" is more annoying than "any other minority" playing music loudly on their phone is a pretty textbook example of how comedy isn't supposed to "punch down". Its only punching down if you consider other people to be below you. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 10:53:57 PM #186 | ReignFury posted... Im surprised Jefferies isnt supportive of cancel culture You should hear some of the things hes said. . . --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 10:53:31 PM #185 | Also, for someone who stomped into this topic taking about how he doesnt care about any of this, Muta seems to have an awful lot of opinions. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 10:50:19 PM #183 | The Great Muta 22 posted... People cry about cancel culture yet all these comedians who rail against it seem to be putting out massively successful shows, selling out across the world, and even this Shane Gillis dude is acknowledged to likely benefit from the "outrage" against him. Most of the people who can afford to speak out against it are insulated from the repercussions. Its the up and coming people who havent yet established themselves who are vulnerable. Unfortunately if this keeps going we might not have another generation with the ability to speak up for whats right after this one. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 10:40:27 PM #180 | DoubleDare posted... The thing is, they yell cancel culture. Lol, china world! --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 10:32:06 PM #178 | AlisLandale posted... Or acting like over-the-top frat bros? Thats literally his whole gimmick. His Comedy Central stand-up set is still available on YouTube. Just google his name and why white people like country music. He literally calls himself white trash like three times in the first couple minutes. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 10:04:23 PM #171 | AlisLandale posted... Clutch posted... Or acting like over-the-top frat bros? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 10:00:07 PM #168 | averagejoel posted... Clutch posted...averagejoel posted...Clutch posted...averagejoel posted...Clutch posted...I guarantee there are some comedians who could make that funny. Im defending allowing comedians to be comedians. Youre defending a hypothetical that you cant even explain. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:55:51 PM #166 | averagejoel posted... Clutch posted...averagejoel posted...Clutch posted...I guarantee there are some comedians who could make that funny. It was bad and you should feel bad for defending it. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:52:59 PM #164 | averagejoel posted... Clutch posted...I guarantee there are some comedians who could make that funny. Stop making bad hypotheticals and just get to the point then. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:51:19 PM #162 | hockeybub89 posted... Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Any time a comedian opens their mouth is not a stage. Are you having a meltdown? Just because I dont find Paul Blart funny doesnt mean I think it was a serious drama based on factual events. Im starting to get embarrassed for you. Just walk away. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:48:42 PM #160 | averagejoel posted... Clutch posted...averagejoel posted...Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Any time a comedian opens their mouth is not a stage. I guarantee there are some comedians who could make that funny. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:41:23 PM #156 | hockeybub89 posted... Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Any time a comedian opens their mouth is not a stage. You really seem to be struggling with the concept of comedy. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:31:49 PM #149 | The Great Muta 22 posted... Clutch posted...The Great Muta 22 posted...Clutch posted...CrimsonRage posted...Clutch posted...CrimsonRage posted...remember right-wingers are totally happy when liberal comedians/entertainers are fired over jokes (see: kathy griffin, james gunn, snl writer who said barron trump was a future school shooter) So no sauce. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:30:32 PM #148 | averagejoel posted... Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Any time a comedian opens their mouth is not a stage. Making fun of white supremacism makes you a white supremacist? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:28:39 PM #146 | AlisLandale posted... Clutch posted...AlisLandale posted...From what I heard in the clips, it really didnt sound much different than a typical racist rant. Unfortunately most of his content has been temporarily taken down. Should be back up in a couple of days. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:27:10 PM #144 | The Great Muta 22 posted... Clutch posted...CrimsonRage posted...Clutch posted...CrimsonRage posted...remember right-wingers are totally happy when liberal comedians/entertainers are fired over jokes (see: kathy griffin, james gunn, snl writer who said barron trump was a future school shooter) Sauce? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:26:35 PM #142 | hockeybub89 posted... Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...Any time a comedian opens their mouth is not a stage. If they could make it funny, why not? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:21:34 PM #138 | hockeybub89 posted... Any time a comedian opens their mouth is not a stage. No, but a recorded comedy podcast most certainly is. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:20:25 PM #136 | AlisLandale posted... From what I heard in the clips, it really didnt sound much different than a typical racist rant. Maybe try listening to more than just the couple of clips that were selected specifically to make you think that way? Nah, thats probably too much to ask. Just carry on. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 9:02:55 PM #131 | hockeybub89 posted... Clutch posted...hockeybub89 posted...I wish I could make racial slurs on tape and be defended when my job fired me after hearing them. You kick them in the face when youre in the ring. A comedian makes jokes when they are on stage or on a show. Thats their ring. Hows that logic work for you? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:53:31 PM #128 | hockeybub89 posted... I wish I could make racial slurs on tape and be defended when my job fired me after hearing them. Your job isnt being a comedian. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:52:27 PM #127 | creativerealms posted... He's going to get even more famous due to this. This is the best thing that ever happened to him. The fact that hes legitimately hilarious will help too. SNL is probably the biggest loser as a result of this. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:40:47 PM #121 | Kastrada posted... Clutch posted...So you think it would be better if clips of him being racist to other groups of people came out? Arent you the one who brought up the argument about the other SNL cast member with a history of offensive racial humor? Also, Im pretty sure youre misremembering the thing with Anthony Cumia. You nailed the Paul Mooney stuff though. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:32:46 PM #117 | CrimsonRage posted... Clutch posted...CrimsonRage posted...remember right-wingers are totally happy when liberal comedians/entertainers are fired over jokes (see: kathy griffin, james gunn, snl writer who said barron trump was a future school shooter) Like who? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:31:29 PM #116 | Kastrada posted... Clutch posted...You just stated that was difference. So you think it would be better if clips of him being racist to other groups of people came out? Call me skeptical. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:23:54 PM #113 | CrimsonRage posted... remember right-wingers are totally happy when liberal comedians/entertainers are fired over jokes (see: kathy griffin, james gunn, snl writer who said barron trump was a future school shooter) This doesnt have anything to do with politics. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:21:21 PM #111 | Kastrada posted... Clutch posted...You dont actually believe that Gillis has never made fun of anyone other than Asians, right? You just stated that was difference. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:06:11 PM #104 | Kastrada posted... Lebronwon posted...The thing I didn't get about it. Is he got hired. So either SNL knew about his past and fired him after it got out. Or they didn't do a background check. You dont actually believe that Gillis has never made fun of anyone other than Asians, right? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:01:21 PM #99 | EnterTheTekken posted... What I don't understand is, if SNL/NBC doesn't fire him, how is that spun into the network & show being some tacit supporter of racist language? Theyve certainly looked the other way in the past. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 8:00:40 PM #97 | Darmik posted... Clutch posted...Darmik posted...I wonder if people would defend the Michael Richards meltdown as comedy today. Lol, yeah he was definitely trying to offend that guy. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 7:20:01 PM #77 | Darmik posted... I wonder if people would defend the Michael Richards meltdown as comedy today. I mean, he yelled that at a heckler in anger. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 7:19:16 PM #76 | NinjaBreakfast posted... Clutch posted...Webmaster4531 posted...Clutch posted...I hate having to explain comedy to people. I think he would have been wasted on SNL anyway. But that wasnt my decision. Also, SNL fan confirmed. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 7:16:25 PM #73 | Ivynn posted... It sounds like Burr and Jefferies don't have the full context of what happened. They assume it's yet another case of someone getting in trouble for what they said 15 years ago on Twitter. They aren't aware that this was from last year, and it wasn't a joke or comedy routine. The guy was just ranting about how he didn't like Chinatown and Chinese people. I'm not a fan of people getting fired for things they said a long time ago, but I feel like barely a year is close enough to face some consequences. You dont appear to have the full context. Burr and Jeffries understand the concept of both a comedy podcast and offensive humor. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 7:14:56 PM #71 | Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted...I hate having to explain comedy to people. Youre probably an SNL fan. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 7:09:47 PM #67 | emblem boy posted... Clutch posted...emblem boy posted...Would a better apology have saved him? You just dont understand the concept of a comedy podcast. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 7:07:36 PM #66 | sktgamer_13dude posted... Just because its a comedy podcast doesnt mean you can say whatever you want. Please provide your list of approved topics for comedians. Thanks. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 7:04:52 PM #64 | I hate having to explain comedy to people. The internet was a mistake. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 6:56:55 PM #53 | pauIie posted... Webmaster4531 posted...He wasn't telling a joke when he said the slur. No, his point was that its hard to defend because its not a structured joke like you would hear in a Jezelnik routine. The humor comes from the over-the-top offensiveness, which some people just arent going to get. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 6:46:49 PM #44 | emblem boy posted... Would a better apology have saved him? No, what he said was perfect. As you can see from this topic, most of the people who are outraged over this dont even acknowledge that he was joking. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 6:42:32 PM #41 | Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted...Webmaster4531 posted...Clutch posted...Webmaster4531 posted...He wasn't telling a joke when he said the slur. No need for scare quotes, friend. If someone is discussing Israel on a comedy podcast, theyre probably doing so with the intention of being funny. I understand that you need to imply some nefarious intent for the purpose of justifying your outrage, but it simply does not exist. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 6:36:44 PM #26 | Anteaterking posted... If you were a comedian, wouldn't you want to save the battles for GOOD jokes that push the boundaries? I for one cant wait for the day when comedians have to filter and edit every word to avoid the outrage mob. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 6:32:22 PM #22 | Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted...Webmaster4531 posted...He wasn't telling a joke when he said the slur. Blurted it out on a comedy podcast. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 6:31:38 PM #21 | gunplagirl posted... Bill Burr: making fun of LGBT and racial minorities is okay and nobody who does so should be held accountable for their actions Sorry, can you provide a list of who can be made fun of? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 6:28:05 PM #17 | Wewillrocku posted... the only reason he feels this way is because he's not asian. if gillis was a different race and was responsible for using slurs against white people then burr would be offended. i think so. Youre wrong. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL. |
Clutch 09/17/19 6:26:19 PM #14 | Webmaster4531 posted... He wasn't telling a joke when he said the slur. Wrong. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
Topic | SNL's Shane Gills fired over racial slur use |
Clutch 09/17/19 5:28:55 PM #119 | TheBlueMonk_ posted... chinese didn't even invent MSG Literally fact checking a comedy podcast. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N. |
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