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Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 3:49:47 PM #433	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... CyricZ posted... Go ahead and call me "the real racist". I dare you. Yeah Webmaster, he dares you. You're both defending racial slurs and blackface. I'm going to call you both racists just like Shane. Damn, you gonna take that Cyric? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 3:35:29 PM #429	CyricZ posted... Go ahead and call me "the real racist". I dare you. Yeah Webmaster, he dares you. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 3:34:37 PM #428	Webmaster4531 posted... I didn't even imply all caricature is blackface. No, but you did directly state that defending caricature is the same as defending blackface. Which is a pretty ridiculous statement. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 3:26:32 PM #424	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... krazychao5 posted... Clutch posted... Do you understand the concept of caricature? Should I provide a link to Wikipedia? Blackface is also a caricature, lol Weve already concluded the blackface portion of this discussion. Thank you for your input. No we're not. You're defending blackface and racist slurs. Technically Cyric defended it. I just provided him with an example. Either way, weve moved on from that point. You're defending caricature. Blackface is caricature. Therefore you're defending blackface. Cyric provided a fairly passionate defense of the use of blackface in a comedic context. There is a lot of caricature in comedy that isnt blackface though. So Im not sure your logic works like you think it does. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 3:17:27 PM #422	averagejoel posted... Clutch posted... averagejoel posted... Clutch posted... averagejoel posted... Clutch posted... averagejoel posted... to what extent do these "free speech" people think SNL should be owned and operated by the state? This isnt a free speech issue. I know. but your last post to me seemed to suggest otherwise. Im only trying to explain to you how what youre doing is destroying comedy. it's not though and people being rightfully condemned for being racist is also not destroying comedy. comedy will be just fine Only because comics have already taken steps to insulate themselves from this kind of backlash. Theyve created self-owned platforms that arent reliant on advertisers and big corporations. Otherwise we probably only be getting content that was heavily edited and sanitized for the sensitive masses. comedians relying on racist/sexist/etc. material is a bit like rappers starting every verse with "my name is [X] and I'm here to say..." it's lazy. they deserve to fall behind if that's what they're doing Its fine. They dont need your money. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 3:10:07 PM #420	averagejoel posted... Clutch posted... averagejoel posted... Clutch posted... averagejoel posted... to what extent do these "free speech" people think SNL should be owned and operated by the state? This isnt a free speech issue. I know. but your last post to me seemed to suggest otherwise. Im only trying to explain to you how what youre doing is destroying comedy. it's not though and people being rightfully condemned for being racist is also not destroying comedy. comedy will be just fine Only because comics have already taken steps to insulate themselves from this kind of backlash. Theyve created self-owned platforms that arent reliant on advertisers and big corporations. Otherwise we probably only be getting content that was heavily edited and sanitized for the sensitive masses. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 3:01:01 PM #418	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... krazychao5 posted... Clutch posted... Do you understand the concept of caricature? Should I provide a link to Wikipedia? Blackface is also a caricature, lol Weve already concluded the blackface portion of this discussion. Thank you for your input. No we're not. You're defending blackface and racist slurs. Technically Cyric defended it. I just provided him with an example. Either way, weve moved on from that point. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:56:40 PM #415	ledbowman posted... All those 60 year old frat boys. Lol get your shit together dude Thats it, huh? You really cant distinguish between reality and comedy. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:50:26 PM #413	ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... That wasn't a caricature. You already agreed it was indistinguishable from the real thing I did no such thing. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78021754/927606449 No, I said that was what he was going for. You dont see the absurdity of a 30 year old talking like his 60 year old racist uncle? Are you really trying to argue that you cant distinguish between a comedy bit and real life? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:42:31 PM #411	krazychao5 posted... Clutch posted... Do you understand the concept of caricature? Should I provide a link to Wikipedia? Blackface is also a caricature, lol Weve already concluded the blackface portion of this discussion. Thank you for your input. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:41:28 PM #410	ledbowman posted... That wasn't a caricature. You already agreed it was indistinguishable from the real thing I did no such thing. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:33:43 PM #407	ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... What was funny about it https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78021754/927613289 I asked what was funny about it This topic isnt about if it was funny. Comics are allowed to fail. Not every joke or bIt is going to land. What was supposed to be funny about it What was he going for Explain the joke I already did. Youre just arguing in a circle. You said he's playing a racist. Explain the joke about c***** Do you understand the concept of caricature? Should I provide a link to Wikipedia? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:20:24 PM #404	ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... What was funny about it https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78021754/927613289 I asked what was funny about it This topic isnt about if it was funny. Comics are allowed to fail. Not every joke or bIt is going to land. What was supposed to be funny about it What was he going for Explain the joke I already did. Youre just arguing in a circle. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:17:51 PM #402	ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... What was funny about it https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78021754/927613289 I asked what was funny about it This topic isnt about if it was funny. Comics are allowed to fail. Not every joke or bIt is going to land. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:12:27 PM #398	ledbowman posted... What was funny about it https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78021754/927613289 --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:10:22 PM #396	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Is that his real accent? Lol, what? What's confusing you? I dont understand what that has to do with anything? You said he was pretending to be someone else. And you think that involves using an accent? Yes. That is one of the most baffling statements of this topic, and thats saying a lot. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:09:32 PM #395	CyricZ posted... Clutch posted... CyricZ posted... Clutch posted... Id probably start by looking at things that were done or said Aaaand you can stop right there. Of course. Your position becomes unsupportable if we go beyond statements in the context of comedy. Well that's your argument isn't it? That all accountability is off the table once someone flips the "comedy" switch that we totally have. Out of one corner of your mouth, you're saying that comedy is sacrosanct and unassailable, but out of the other corner, when the lack of quality as a joke is addressed, suddenly it's "not scripted nor do they contain polished comedic bits" and a big downplay. Like are we allowed to critique the quality but not the content? Is that how the rigidly defined system of comedy critique works? You can critique the quality, you just cant arbitrarily change it from a comedic context to a non-comedic context. Saying you dont like the joke is fine. Claiming that it isnt a joke and that hes a super serial racist is the problem. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 2:05:05 PM #393	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Is that his real accent? Lol, what? What's confusing you? I dont understand what that has to do with anything? You said he was pretending to be someone else. And you think that involves using an accent? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:49:32 PM #387	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Is that his real accent? Lol, what? What's confusing you? I dont understand what that has to do with anything? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:47:11 PM #385	CyricZ posted... Clutch posted... Id probably start by looking at things that were done or said Aaaand you can stop right there. Of course. Your position becomes unsupportable if we go beyond statements in the context of comedy. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:43:03 PM #383	Bio1590 posted... fenderbender321 posted... Bio1590 posted... fenderbender321 posted... The market is what we want to change. So you want to make it more acceptable to be racist. Got it. Glad we've finally established what you believe. "Acceptable" is too abstract of a concept for me to entertain. And yet you'll defend racist comments for thousands of posts. Weird how that works. I just checked your karma and youre looking a little light, bro. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:42:02 PM #381	Webmaster4531 posted... Is that his real accent? Lol, what? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:40:57 PM #380	CyricZ posted... fenderbender321 posted... "Acceptable" is too abstract of a concept for me to entertain. Apparently "how would you prove someone is racist" is also too abstract. Id probably start by looking at things that were done or said outside of a comedy podcast. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:34:25 PM #375	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Just read the topic again and try to figure it out. You can't explain the "joke" because you'll be modded for being racist. No, the joke is that hes playing a character whos an oafish, redneck, fratboy. Much like Robert Downey played a character who wore blackface, which without context, could be made to look horrible. This is probably the 2nd most dumbest reply you could have made. 1st being you just repeating the slur and saying it's funny. We get it. Its not a joke because you decided he was being serious, even with all evidence pointing to the contrary. Carry on. You really think he's not an oafish redneck racist fratboy? Oh you poor sweet summer child , go outside. As someone who has actually listened to a bunch of his material, I dont believe he is. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:28:32 PM #371	Balrog0 posted... @fenderbender321 apparently Gillis was hired in an attempt to appeal to the conservatives like those itt who enjoy his humor https://decider.com/2019/09/18/snl-shane-gillis-conservative-appeal/ obviously the market is not your friend on this one I doubt many of his fans would have started watching SNL anyway. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:25:07 PM #368	ThanksUglyGod posted... fenderbender321 posted... ThanksUglyGod posted... fenderbender321 posted... All progress is made through education I'd say practice & education, with greater emphasis on practice. So if you're taught that racism is bad, but the people who engage in racist behavior don't face any real consequences, then what incentive do people have for trying to be better? Do what incentive does this guy have to get better? His dreams of being a big time entertainer have already been permanently ruined. People have come back from worse (re: Robert Downey Jr.). Besides, there are comedy gigs outside of SNL. He even said himself he was more of a MadTV kinda guy. Oh, hes going to be fine. He really is too funny to be on SNL anyway. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:21:57 PM #365	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Just read the topic again and try to figure it out. You can't explain the "joke" because you'll be modded for being racist. No, the joke is that hes playing a character whos an oafish, redneck, fratboy. Much like Robert Downey played a character who wore blackface, which without context, could be made to look horrible. This is probably the 2nd most dumbest reply you could have made. 1st being you just repeating the slur and saying it's funny. We get it. Its not a joke because you decided he was being serious, even with all evidence pointing to the contrary. Carry on. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:13:27 PM #359	Webmaster4531 posted... Clutch posted... Just read the topic again and try to figure it out. You can't explain the "joke" because you'll be modded for being racist. No, the joke is that hes playing a character whos an oafish, redneck, fratboy. Much like Robert Downey played a character who wore blackface, which without context, could be made to look horrible. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:02:51 PM #354	ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... Its about taking something offensive and making it funny. That's not what shane did. He just did the taking something offensive part Again, understand the medium. These shows are not scripted nor do they contain polished comedic bits. Youre basically watching comedians work through the comedic process in real time. It doesnt mean its going to always be funny or go anywhere. There was no attempt at a joke Youre wrong. What was it Just read the topic again and try to figure it out. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 1:02:12 PM #353	CyricZ posted... takes face out of palms The whole point of holding people accountable for these kinds of behavior is setting the example. It's the whole reason we have behavioral standards in work places. And a big part of comedy is flouting societal standards. If you only want safe, inoffensive comedy there is plenty of it out there. What youre failing to explain is why youre so intent on destroying everything that doesnt meet your standard. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:56:14 PM #346	ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... Its about taking something offensive and making it funny. That's not what shane did. He just did the taking something offensive part Again, understand the medium. These shows are not scripted nor do they contain polished comedic bits. Youre basically watching comedians work through the comedic process in real time. It doesnt mean its going to always be funny or go anywhere. There was no attempt at a joke Youre wrong. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:55:42 PM #345	CyricZ posted... You literally asked in this topic what culture it would be okay to mock. I just wanted to know which cultures that poster thought were ok to mock. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:52:11 PM #342	ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... Its about taking something offensive and making it funny. That's not what shane did. He just did the taking something offensive part Again, understand the medium. These shows are not scripted nor do they contain polished comedic bits. Youre basically watching comedians work through the comedic process in real time. It doesnt mean its going to always be funny or go anywhere. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:49:22 PM #339	NinjaBreakfast posted... No guys he was actually acting as a generic racist podcast guest who has been invited on with 5 minutes notice and is demonstrably unable to think of anything funnier, when the host forces in some dumb Chinatown bit, than dropping in racial slurs, saying "uhhh Chinese stuff looks weird!" and spending far too long on some attempted gag about a Chinese waiter. Really deep stuff! Are you ok? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:47:50 PM #337	Bio1590 posted... I see this Clutch account is another old account with low karma for its age that just showed up on CE one day recently and immediately started passionately right-wing posting I have low karma? Really? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:41:47 PM #332	CyricZ posted... Clutch posted... Thank you for that passionate defense of blackface, but wasnt your whole point that it was indefensible from a comedic standpoint? And thank you for completing misreading my statement, so let me say it more clearly: The joke in Tropic Thunder was not RDJ putting on blackface in order to mock the culture of black people. The joke was mocking the concept of blackface. When I challenge you to "defend blackface" I'm coming off the claim made by both you and fender that all cultures are fair game for comedy, fair game in this case meaning "you can't critique comedians for that subject". So if you need me to be specific, the challenge is to "defend blackface as a means of mocking a culture". If culture mockery is so sacrosanct to comedy, this should be easy. Now youre just moving the goalpost. Its not about mocking a culture. Its about taking something offensive and making it funny. That doesnt mean it always works, but if someone can take something as gross as blackface and find an angle to make it funny, then who are we to tell them what is off limits? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:24:44 PM #323	NinjaBreakfast posted... Fighting racists = good Cops, troops and ICE = actual narcs LOL More like tilting at windmills. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:16:31 PM #320	fenderbender321 posted... Solid Snake07 posted... He's right, all these cancel culture types are narc ass tattle tales It's as if their parents and teachers just skipped the whole "hey, you're 10 years old now. Stop tattling. If somebody says something you don't like just ignore it and move on" development part of their lives. Yeah, but what would they have to gloat about and make their own miserable lives feel better for a small fraction of time? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 12:08:40 PM #316	CyricZ posted... Clutch posted... CyricZ posted... fenderbender321 posted... So like.....when you see a villain in a movie. An entertainer. You realize that the person playing him doesn't actually mean the things he says right? And like when characters play themselves such as Adam West in Family Guy, you realize that he isn't really this dumb, ignorant, selfish, bigoted person in real life, right? Y'know what, let's just cut through the treacle and take this to the logical conclusion. Defend blackface. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropic_Thunder Exactly. The best one can do with blackface is call it out over and over again over the course of a movie. Of the "everyone knows this is offensive and our production is calling out how offensive it is". The joke was not dressing up in blackface as a caricature of black people. The joke was the concept of blackface. Thank you for that passionate defense of blackface, but wasnt your whole point that it was indefensible from a comedic standpoint? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 11:48:16 AM #311	CyricZ posted... fenderbender321 posted... So like.....when you see a villain in a movie. An entertainer. You realize that the person playing him doesn't actually mean the things he says right? And like when characters play themselves such as Adam West in Family Guy, you realize that he isn't really this dumb, ignorant, selfish, bigoted person in real life, right? Y'know what, let's just cut through the treacle and take this to the logical conclusion. Defend blackface. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tropic_Thunder --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 11:30:10 AM #304	NinjaBreakfast posted... Probably more correct to say that people who set the bar for 'comedy' as low as 'randomly peppering a conversation with racial slurs to zero comedic effect' are doing more to ruin it Its only comedy if I find it funny - The Topic. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 11:18:00 AM #297	averagejoel posted... Clutch posted... averagejoel posted... to what extent do these "free speech" people think SNL should be owned and operated by the state? This isnt a free speech issue. I know. but your last post to me seemed to suggest otherwise. Im only trying to explain to you how what youre doing is destroying comedy. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 11:14:39 AM #296	ledbowman posted... Clutch posted... BeantownHero posted... [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Shitting on chinese culture...real galaxy brain comedy right there Please provide a list of cultures that are appropriate for comedians to shit on. Thanks. All, just don't cry when they get slapped by the invisible hand of the market Congrats on that brief shot of endorphin you received from this great victory. So whos next? --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 11:08:57 AM #289	averagejoel posted... to what extent do these "free speech" people think SNL should be owned and operated by the state? This isnt a free speech issue. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 11:07:19 AM #288	BeantownHero posted... [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Shitting on chinese culture...real galaxy brain comedy right there Please provide a list of cultures that are appropriate for comedians to shit on. Thanks. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 10:31:43 AM #261	legendary_zell posted... Clutch posted... legendary_zell posted... Maybe this rule will help the socially challenged citizens of CE understand offensive comedy and when it's okay. When you make a "joke" disparaging a group of people, it's not going to be considered funny if it's not obviously a joke or if it seems to be your actual opinion on the subject. You can't "joke" about hating Asian people when you actually seem to dislike them. Yeah, lets ban comedy podcasts! This type of blatant misinterpretation and strawmanning should be moddable. Now you want me banned too. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 10:29:57 AM #260	ledbowman posted... What they said is indistinguishable from 2 regular old rednecks sitting on their back porch bitching about minorities Almost like that was part of the joke. . . --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 10:29:17 AM #259	legendary_zell posted... Tell me, do you go around telling Holocaust and slavery jokes in public and then act surprised when people dislike you and don't want to associate with you? Are you really this ignorant to the concept of comedy? Do you not understand why comedy only works in specific venues? Its no coincidence that most of the people who are offended by this have convinced themselves that this wasnt a comedian making jokes, but a racist being racists. All evidence to the contrary. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 10:25:01 AM #257	CrimsonRage posted... LightningAce11 posted... People who dislike punching up are often the ones who have never been demeaned as the butt of a joke. i find the people who dislike punching up and think "we" should be able to punch down are part of the privilege classes and upset because they can't make fun of the marginalised without looking like assholes. "why can't i make fun of the homeless person for being homeless?" You have a fundamental misunderstanding about comedy. It has nothing to do about punching up or punching down, because everyone in a comedy club is equal. You leave your social hierarchy bullshit at the door. Everyone and everything is fair game. Thats why people love it. If you only like comedy that you believe hurts people who are above you, you arent doing it right. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
Topic	Bill Burr Calls Out Rats Who Got Shane Gillis Fired From SNL.
Clutch 09/18/19 10:16:24 AM #252	averagejoel posted... ledbowman posted... How is white guy saying racial epithets comedy don't you see? relying on the same racist tropes that were worn out and tired 40 years ago is pushing the limits of what's acceptable!!! It doesnt matter if you or anyone finds it funny. Comedians are allowed to make bad jokes. Trying to find something funny about a 40 year old racist epithet is literally part of their job description. Obviously a lot of the content is going to fall flat, but you cant cherry pick a three minutes of content from hundreds of hours of podcasts and pretend that in this one instance he was being totally serious. --- "The historian looks backward; eventually he also believes backward" - F.N.
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