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I wonder what people would think of this hilarious rant. Can we punish a dead guy?:



A much shorter clip:


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Kastrada posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Yeah when the panel is all non-regulars it isn't the same. When you have at least 3 regulars out of the group of Norton, Vos, Patrice, Giraldo, Di Paolo, Keith Robinson, it's usually hilarious. I remember guys like Kevin Hart, Bill Burr, Louis CK, Rogan, Bobby Kelly being good too. The one where Giraldo owns the hell out of Denis Leary is must watch stuff.

Giraldo killing Leary was amazing. I remember watching that as it aired and having to look away because of how hard he came at Leary. It was a sight to behold.

Really Giraldo was the best at all of that. Usually they defer to him for actual knowledge because they know that couldn't keep up with a lawyer. Patrice and sometimes Norton were the only two that could made coherent arguments.

And if you love all of those guys, you need to see the Roast of Patrice O'Neal on YouTube. For anyone that hasn't seen it, Ben Bailey (yes from Cash Cab) absolutely murders everyone with no remorse. Poor Keith Robinson.

I've been a student of Patrice over the years and I've yet to watch that or his last special. There's something weird about running out of material to listen to by a dead guy. It's depressing. He would have been huge if he didn't pass away. That Sheen Roast put him on the map.

I will check them out eventually.
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I don't remember who said it but it might have been Luis J Gomez who had a theory that Shane was just used as a prop to drum up media buzz for their new Asian hire and the upcoming SNL season. Which is an interesting theory because the idea that NBC wouldn't have vetted one of their new members does not sit well with me either. A billion dollar company and you didn't know anything? Maybe they did and they filtered the info to that hack writer that found the old clips, to make it look like a hack blogger found it? Who knows.

As mentioned, he has said worse stuff. But it's so over the top that I've never taken it as more than a joke. God forbid the haters actually take the time to listen to Legion of Skanks. Their minds would explode with the things said on there. A podcast, by the way, which has diverse guests including SNL member Michael Che.

He takes a contrarian angle just to shock and antagonize people. That's his schtick. He's a dope who like college football and beer. There's nothing deep about him. He's not political.

(This message obviously isn't for you Clutch & Kastrada. It's for people who might be lingering here.)
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Kastrada posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Yeah it's incredible. I only know it through Youtube! The regulars on there were the best because they would kill each other with great lines. But it's amazing that a lot of the headliners and stars from this generation made appearances on there. Kevin Hart, Jim Norton, Di Paolo, Burr, Louis CK, Sarah Silverman, Giraldo (RIP), Patrice O'Neal (RIP), etc.

It was amazing live. It's actually a really hit or miss show to be honest. If they only had one NYC comedian/friend of the show, it usually sucked. It was usually Norton that was left as the odd person out and he and Colin couldn't carry three-dead weights by themselves.

Yeah when the panel is all non-regulars it isn't the same. When you have at least 3 regulars out of the group of Norton, Vos, Patrice, Giraldo, Di Paolo, Keith Robinson, it's usually hilarious. I remember guys like Kevin Hart, Bill Burr, Louis CK, Rogan, Bobby Kelly being good too. The one where Giraldo owns the hell out of Denis Leary is must watch stuff.
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Clutch posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Clutch posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Clutch posted...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/shane-gillis-trump-funniest-president-see-get-shot-first-stand-up-after-snl-axing.amp

Gillis spitting fire.

He really is a funny dude and he will land on his feet just fine. All the comedians who matter are behind him. I first heard him maybe a year ago and he has been on a big rise since he hit the New York comedy and podcast scene.

Me too. Im a big fan of a lot of the pods that hes been a guest on in the last year or so and hes a killer.

I don't listen to his podcast but he's a must listen when he's on The Bonfire, Legion of Skanks, Real Ass Podcast, Robert Kelly, etc.

One of the pet peeves of this whole situation is that the people complaining are hardly comedy fans. If you watch SNL regularly, I don't want to know you. That's some beginner level horse****. I'm not saying that everything he says is gold, but you'd give him more of a benefit of the doubt if you knew what he was about the rest of the time.

You and I listen to the same pods. Ive never actually listened to him on the secret pod, but I do listen to everything on Gas Digital. Youre probably the only person in this topic who understands the context of my defense of Shane. Everyone else sees it as some left wing vs. right wing bullshit, and not just a fan of good comedy.

Thanks man.

Beauty!
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Kastrada posted...

tommybel89 posted...

He was great on Tough Crowd With Colin Quinn in the early 2000's.

Stupidest decision Comedy Central ever made was cancelling that show.

Bunch of hilarious morons try and give their opinions on subjects they know shit about until they turn to Giraldo to explain it to them.

Yeah it's incredible. I only know it through Youtube! The regulars on there were the best because they would kill each other with great lines. But it's amazing that a lot of the headliners and stars from this generation made appearances on there. Kevin Hart, Jim Norton, Di Paolo, Burr, Louis CK, Sarah Silverman, Giraldo (RIP), Patrice O'Neal (RIP), etc.

Even though it was a TV show, you can argue that show is the birth of the comedy podcast. It's either that show or the Opie & Anthony radio program. Comedians ribbing each other and shooting the s*** about current events, telling stories etc.
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Clutch posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Clutch posted...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/shane-gillis-trump-funniest-president-see-get-shot-first-stand-up-after-snl-axing.amp

Gillis spitting fire.

He really is a funny dude and he will land on his feet just fine. All the comedians who matter are behind him. I first heard him maybe a year ago and he has been on a big rise since he hit the New York comedy and podcast scene.

Me too. Im a big fan of a lot of the pods that hes been a guest on in the last year or so and hes a killer.

I don't listen to his podcast but he's a must listen when he's on The Bonfire, Legion of Skanks, Real Ass Podcast, Robert Kelly, etc.

One of the pet peeves of this whole situation is that the people complaining are hardly comedy fans. If you watch SNL regularly, I don't want to know you. That's some beginner level horse****. I'm not saying that everything he says is gold, but you'd give him more of a benefit of the doubt if you knew what he was about the rest of the time.
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Clutch posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Right wing comedy does exist. It just isn't the industry darling type of comedy. One example of right wing would be Nick Di Paolo. Funny guy but he's a bit off the rails with politics especially on his podcast. He was great on Tough Crowd With Colin Quinn in the early 2000's.

Hes a national treasure and the kind of guy that if he never mentioned politics would be a top ten comedian.

Yeah or at least try and hit both sides. One sided gets old.
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Clutch posted...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/shane-gillis-trump-funniest-president-see-get-shot-first-stand-up-after-snl-axing.amp

Gillis spitting fire.

He really is a funny dude and he will land on his feet just fine. All the comedians who matter are behind him. I first heard him maybe a year ago and he has been on a big rise since he hit the New York comedy and podcast scene.
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Right wing comedy does exist. It just isn't the industry darling type of comedy. One example of right wing would be Nick Di Paolo. Funny guy but he's a bit off the rails with politics especially on his podcast. He was great on Tough Crowd With Colin Quinn in the early 2000's.
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gunplagirl posted...

Bill Burr: making fun of LGBT and racial minorities is okay and nobody who does so should be held accountable for their actions

Making fun of something is not the same as having an earnest belief about it.
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nemu posted...

Only looking at the China Town clip, he doesn't seem very funny, but I don't see how any of what he said is so out of bounds for a comic. Everyone is so up their own asses in this virtue signaling culture. Outrage needs to be saved for the Michael Richards kind of shit.

Michael Richards was definitely another level up from Shane. He was bombing on stage and was desperately clutching for something to turn his show around. A few black guys were heckling and he snapped. He could have easily done something funny racially (if done well), but he did not have that skill in his repertoire. He dropped an atomic bomb instead. It was ugly. He didn't know how to turn the heckles back on them.

One thing that no outlet is mentioning is that Shane plays the idiot A LOT. Dumb white right winger with bad views is a thing he does regularly just to rile people up on the podcast. He's a contrarian for the sake of it. It works on the shows he's on, but to the mainstream with no context, it's crazy, of course.

In the Asian clip that's been going around, he was just riffing on a topic on a podcast that no one except a few thousand people were going to hear. I don't buy into the bloggers and Twitter people thinking that using any language of that sort is an indication that he means everything he says. Racists are pretty darn serious about their racial beliefs. A guy saying things with reckless abandon to make the room laugh is not in the same realm.
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Gafemage posted...

This is the guy who got him cancelled lol:

This guy does bird poetry, it's brutal!

In regard to Shane:

I don't condone the racial language, but I support a comedian's right to push buttons. If something is wrong and I laugh, fair enough. If it's offensive and I don't laugh, I don't cry about it. These guys do multiple podcasts a week for dedicated audiences. If they choose to do risky stuff to fill time, that's up to them. They have a lot of air to fill. It won't make me laugh every time, but sometimes it might.

I've been to several comedy shows where the comedian has done crowd work and said some very vile s*** to me. I'm talking sexual orientation and AIDS status. I laughed my butt off and took it like a champ. When these guys have a microphone in front of them, it's an expectation that what they're saying is jokes.

I've heard a fair amount of Shane on many shows (but not his own podcast) and he's hilarious. He came seemingly out of no where in the last year or so. He will be just fine. SNL sucks anyway.
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Bill Burr, saint on Earth.
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SerperiorThanU posted...

Why is this dude multiposting his love for homophobia and racism

Jeez, that's what you really got from that? If a guy wants to say dumb crap on a podcast with a niche audience, who cares? Are we supposed to take them all down? What about his slightly more famous or successful friends? Am I supposed to hound Ari Shaffir or Dan Soder or Big Jay Oakerson for an apology and a disavowal of the guy?

I obviously don't vouch for the ideas on those 'jokes'. But if you're brazen enough to say it, I just might laugh sometimes.

Newsflash: you can laugh at things you don't agree with.
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SNL sucks anyway. Michael Che is way too good for that show.
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Anyone who says that someone is "g*yer than ISIS" is a funny guy.
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Romulox28 posted...

the matt & shane podcast is pretty funny tho

Sup bull.
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Also here's something to ponder:

Eddie Murphy is supposed to host SNL this season. What will people do when they find out he had comedy bits on his old specials called "F*ggots" and "F*ggots Revisited"?
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This story is amazing because it's the first time I've been a fan of someone before they got to SNL. The second I saw the headline that he would be going to SNL, I just knew it was a matter of time before some loser blogger combed through his past. The only thing Shane is guilty of is that he does comedy like it's pre-2010. The moment the "gay cartel" finds his old (and hilarious) podcasts, I knew it would be problematic.

I've known about Shane Gillis for over a year now and he's a very funny podcaster and comedian. He's not racist. He just says prevocative s*** for the laugh. He's a frequent guest on the Legion of Skanks podcast and they bill themselves "the most offensive podcast on Earth". He had his own podcasts (Matt & Shane) and appeared elsewhere too. He's always funny as ****.

I doubt you'll hear a headline that says that Michael Che is also in that same circle and is also a sometime guest of that show.
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Trimmed tamed bush is ideal. Completely bald should be reserved for once in a while.

Most areas should be clean, but I'm not going to freak out over missed stray hairs. Girls work a hell of a lot harder to keep their stuff in line!

Also if the legs have very short days old stubble, I don't mind. I like the feel, lol.
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SuperExcitebike posted...

I'm sure The Crown S3 will be fine, but I'm really gonna miss Vanessa Kirby's fine ass

She's rumoured to play Catwoman in the future. And I must say...full support!
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I'll admit I watched that guy 3 years ago. At least he correctly called the election and the climate surrounding that moment. But otherwise...why do people even bother with this guy?
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DMB is weird because it's like cult big but you never hear their music. So I can't really say I have an opinion on them. I know the dude's voice annoys me and they sound a bit "jammy". But mehhh
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The new Korn album just came out today. And as you kids like to say, it's f***ing LIT.
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If they are willing to piss off the left, that just signals to me that they're dangerous. I like that. I don't mind Bill Burr or Jim Norton or whoever else taking swipes at them. I also like apolitical comedians like Jim Gaffigan or Big Jay Oakerson or Dan Soder or many other guys. I don't like mainstream shills that go for "clapter". That's basically "here's what I believe, now let me step back for 10 seconds for that clap break". That **** is nonsense.
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ViewtifulGrave posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

I heard he makes fun of male feminists. Hard pass.

Why is that not ok?

Making fun of them is the lord's work.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Haven't seen the new Chappelle yet but between that and this special, it's a good time for comedy. All of their peers love these guys. They're basically the modern day "Carlin vs. Pryor" debate. Louis CK is also in that discussion. The backlash to Chappelle's special is manufactured.

You mean the crying that "OMG THE HARDCORE LEFT IS TRYING TO SHUT DOWN MUH FREEZE PEACH!" is made up by right wing reactionaries who take random internet articles and Twitter profiles way too seriously, right?

Not sure I get your message but if what you're saying is "both extremes are bad" then...yessss
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Mumford & Sons is one of those bands that I look at and I go...why is it big? They sound like summer cottage hang out music. It's not bad but it's just...whatever.
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I might get hate but I don't find 21 Pilots that bad. Their song is one of the only good things about Suicide Squad.
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Say what you will about Limp Bizkit, but there is a generation of Gen X people, many with their own kids now, who secretly were massive Bizkit fans. They were gigantic. Especially to you youngsters out there that were born in the late 90's and missed it all. Their videos along with Korn couldn't be escaped for like a solid 5 years. That also shows you the power of marketing. Once MTV starts promoting something else, the older bands get dropped like a bad habit and they got dropped pretty hard.

I want to see what happened to all the kids who went to the Bizkit show at Woodstock 99 and tore down the fencing and crowdsurfed on it during Break Stuff. Now that's a good documentary waiting to happen.
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Yeah if anything Korn is crapped on because they begat Bizkit and many nu metal acts, and they're still remembered for that image 20 years ago. But the good thing is that they grew a little bit with the times. Not every album is good but at least they've been through the wars that would have crushed many other bands. They've come out the other side and have made 13 albums in 25 years and are still a crushing live act.
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Walk of Life by Dire Straits is also a song that will send me into a tailspin. Limp Bizkit is a masterclass band compared to that ****.
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HasaDiga posted...

thanosibe posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Jack & Diane is the most whitebread horse**** ever. Classic rock radio dreck.

Jack & Diane is the worst shit ever recorded. And Leanne Rhimes covered Purple Rain.

It does need a complete parody, though. I started one but only have part of the chorus.

"Oh yeah! Suck my dong! Long after the spill....of semen is gooooone."

Now I can get behind that!
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thanosibe posted...

tommybel89 posted...

Jack & Diane is the most whitebread horse**** ever. Classic rock radio dreck.

Jack & Diane is the worst shit ever recorded. And Leanne Rhimes covered Purple Rain.

You wanna hear good Purple Rain go check out Springsteen doing it around the time Prince died. Great great cover. And I'm not a Bruce guy.
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I think the special played good in that room. In his last special I felt the audience was letting him down hard. At least that's the lasting impression of it, having seen it like 2 years ago.
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thanosibe posted...

viewmaster_pi posted...

I don't understand why Dave Matthews Band is even on the list, btw

I dont either. Like yeah theyre mediocre but theyre so inoffensive I cant imagine anyone actually hating them. If you want a shit band/singer from that era to put in this poll John Mellencamp fits the fucking bill. Just awful.

Jack & Diane is the most whitebread horse**** ever. Classic rock radio dreck.
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EverDownward posted...

why does fred durst talk like a baby with a lisp?

If that song comes up on Sirius XM in the car, I am bumping that ****er hard.
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MasterGakke posted...

What is with all these dumbfuck millenials trying to enact some bullshit Limp Bizkit revival? That band was cringy shit from the first chord they played. If anything in history deserves to be buried Fred Durst's ignominious shaming of music history comes just barely after vomit-inducing war crimes. There are literally fucking hundreds of bands from that time that put those idiots to shame, what the fuck is wrong with you?

I think once something is like 18 to 20 years removed from when it was massive, it's easier to look at it with a rosier view. I liked them in 2001 but I don't necessarily care for them now. Some bands from back then are making awesome current music and are big live acts, so that's great (Tool, Slipknot, Korn). They're basically the next elder statesmen for metal right after Metallica / Iron Maiden / Megadeth. I know the metal purists will hate that statement.

I don't know if Bizkit will ever enter the "respectability" category. I also don't harbor a hate for them really. It is what it is.
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Bizkit is bad but that Train song is something I cannot even believe exists.
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HasaDiga posted...

KoRn made Queen of the Damned an even worse movie than it would have been.

I was a kid when my mom rented the tape and I knew it was a piece of garbage then. I had no idea that the music was by Jonathan Davis.
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I don't want to know a man who can watch Korn play Blind live and think it sucks. That's a red flag.
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Limp Bizkit sucks but at least they have some fat f***ing riffs. That's better than the milquetoast music of Train or Imagine Dragons. At least it made you want to move.
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YookaLaylee posted...

HasaDiga posted...

BobanMarjanovic posted...

Why the fuck is Korn on there

Because TC isn't a pissed off teenager?

I listened to their first 3 albums a few months ago and they're actually good. Their style is really fun

Hell, I like the dubstep album they did (The Path of Totality). The last one The Serenity of Suffering is pretty solid too. I prefer them over Follow the Leader believe it or not.
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