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Chinese government gives Trump a run for his money over who is more sensitive.
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NinjaMaster

DarthAragorn posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

Happiness comes from within. Stop focusing on external sources and work on understanding yourself better.

I mean I understand myself just fine

I'm good at nothing and have nothing of value to offer anyone

Why do you need to offer anything to others? It sounds like you are basing your value on what you think other people want from you.
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Happiness comes from within. Stop focusing on external sources and work on understanding yourself better.
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Febrel posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

I would however be inclined to say if you have to compare things, women have it harder than men. So, there is that.

Except in some of the areas that TC listed. Women have it harder, except when they have it easier, and vice-versa.

Problem is some people selectively choosing which troubles "don't count".

I only made a comparison because you forced one with your response to my previous post. My entire point was that these "problems" are not inherent to being a guy. I never said they don't count. But they are not innately male problems. If they were, then you would expect all men to be complaining about them. That isn't the case, however.
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DarthAragorn posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

Reminder: There are still people alive that lived in a time when women weren't even allowed to vote in the United States.

That's so relevant to social dynamics in 2019

You think you are being clever, but it absolutely is relevant. If you think society has completely shifted away from those times then maybe we should compare the number of males versus females that hold political offices or other positions of power in the country.
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Reminder: There are still people alive that lived in a time when women weren't even allowed to vote in the United States.
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Febrel posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

It is not hard being a guy. It is maybe a little hard being a delusional guy that lacks any sense of self awareness and blames women or society for all of their problems. But that is a personal problem. Not a universal one.

It's delusional to deny that men and women are often held to different standards.

That seems like a non sequitur. I never claimed otherwise. I would however be inclined to say if you have to compare things, women have it harder than men. So, there is that.
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It is not hard being a guy. It is maybe a little hard being a delusional guy that lacks any sense of self awareness and blames women or society for all of their problems. But that is a personal problem. Not a universal one.
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There there. It's okay. We all murder innocent people sometimes.
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Literally admits that the topic is trolling.
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Empathy is the basis for all morality. Not religion. Religion just misconstrued it and tried to invent moral absolutes which actually ended up doing as much harm as good.
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Pretentiousness is usually a sign of insecurity.
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I very heavily favor digital but I still buy the occasional physical game.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

Some of you very clearly need to read this. Also, try to remember that picking out one detail of something is not enough to properly identify it. A dog has teeth and so does a bear. That doesn't mean dogs are bears. That is the exact thought process some of you are using in identifying fascism.
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DDirtyDastard posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

DDirtyDastard posted...

ThyCorndog posted...

which part of antifa makes them fascist? IDK about supporting them or whatever, but using violence is not inherently fascist. that's not what fascism is and if that's what people think fascism is, they should really read up on shit

It's fascist when it's being used to repress other people's right to free speech.

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No, it's not.

*Picks mic back up*

So you're saying it's okay to violently oppress people I disagree with? That it's more important than free speech? Cool man. I'll go gather my goons right now.

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*Walks away*

I didn't say that at all. I only said you were wrong. You clearly don't understand what fascism means.
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Hop103 posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

Using violence to bring about political change is not a fascist tactic. It existed long before fascism. Antifa are not fascists and labeling them as such just makes you look ignorant.

They are authoritarians, thus they are another faction of fascism.

Authoritarianism is not a unique principle to fascism.
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DDirtyDastard posted...

ThyCorndog posted...

which part of antifa makes them fascist? IDK about supporting them or whatever, but using violence is not inherently fascist. that's not what fascism is and if that's what people think fascism is, they should really read up on shit

It's fascist when it's being used to repress other people's right to free speech.

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No, it's not.
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Using violence to bring about political change is not a fascist tactic. It existed long before fascism. Antifa are not fascists and labeling them as such just makes you look ignorant.
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Giraffe + Construction Crane
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Lyrica posted...

Guyger's attorneys also downplayed that she had been sharing sexually explicit text messages with her work partner and was on the phone with him just before the shooting, which was revealed during the opening of the trial.

I don't see how any of this was relevant to the case.

It was relevant because her defense was that she was exhausted to the point of it impairing her awareness and judgment. However, if she was actively engaging in a conversation it would seem she exaggerated how tired she actually was. She also had plans to meet up with her partner later, instead of sleeping like a normal person would do if they were too tired to think.
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I think your entire history should count against you. Three weeks is nothing.
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The sort of people that worry about what is considered gay or not are themselves not worth consideration.
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Broseph apparently thinks an argument is just making a statement without actually backing it up with actual reasons.
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Mandy - psychedelic fantasy horror set in the 80s and starring Nicolas Cage. I thought the movie was very weird. Maybe a little too weird. During the movie I sometimes felt unsure if I was enjoying it or not but when it was over I was glad I watched it. It is definitely slow paced at times and has a decidedly arthouse indie feel to it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6998518/?ref_=nv_sr_2?ref_=nv_sr_2

There is an epic chainsaw battle in the movie.
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I probably preferred Luck of the Fryish but it felt more bittersweet rather than just sad. Jurassic Bark was flat out tragic.
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I think a lot of people fail to understand what science actually is. It is not something specific like biology or chemistry. Those are just branches of science. Science is not a fixed set of information. It is constantly adapting based on new information. It is the method for observing the universe and obtaining knowledge. Having all knowledge of science is the equivalent of having all knowledge period. You would be omniscient. So... that one.
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Hoochie Mama!
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

Correct. Some animals are orphans that make it on their own though. It is indeed nature and nature. It did seem that you said if you took away a boy that he would never learn but its whatever. The rest certainly stands.

I didn't say he would never learn. I was saying that until he learned he would just assume a girl has a penis, because that is what the boy has. His own body is the only thing he has to base it on. I remember looking at porn with my brother when we were kids. I was a couple of years older and he definitely didn't know what a vagina was because I remember him making a comment and he thought it was funny.
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

Attraction is a natural instinct but it is not based on anything as specific as genitals. Children don't instinctively know about anatomy. It is learned information. For instance, children assume everyone has the same genitalia as themselves. It is a surprise for them to learn that boys and girls are different in that regard. If you remove a boy from society, never teach him about the differences between the sexes, and then introduce him to a pretty girl after he reaches puberty, he would likely still have a natural attraction but he would expect the girl to have a penis because he has never learned about anything else.

Just because you don't actively notice society shaping your opinions doesn't mean it isn't constantly happening.

Lmao

I notice you have no actual response to facts. Unsurprising.

Im actually against transphobic nonsense. Assuming how every child develops and not citing your claims is whats funny.

There is nothing to cite. I didn't assume anything. I presented a hypothetical situation based on common knowledge. Children don't know about sexuality. They learn about it. It is the entire reason the birds and the bees talk exists. Maybe you don't personally remember the first time you discovered boys and girls had different equipment but you absolutely did not know it innately. There is no way for you to have known.

All species outside of humans evolved without learning it, and if its a part of nature, that includes natural procreation with within us includes two sets of different genitals. We procreated before the societal definitions and knowledge. The claim that we dont know the difference without being taught simply needs more support and better definition. For now it was a generalization although for the most part I agree with the rest of the basic foundational logic youre applying.

Baby animals often imitate the behavior of their parents. The animal kingdom operates largely on instinct but they are also capable of learning, the same as humans. I never said you necessarily had to be taught by someone else. You can learn through firsthand experience. As the other person said, pheromones exist. Attraction is definitely somewhat instinctual, but specific knowledge about anatomy is not. Instinct does not provide us with detailed knowledge. Instinct comes down to feelings and intuition. After all, a male doesn't need to know what a vagina is to figure out how to have sex. The point I was making is that people do not have an innate aversion to penises. That is just people misinterpreting biology in order to justify their opinions.
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ArchiePeck posted...

No, our justice system has a key principle that suspects are to be considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. As such, the people we trust to protect us and uphold the law should not have the power to intentionally deceive innocent people.

This. If you assume the person is guilty, lying seems fine to trick them into confessing or whatever. But the legal system is supposed to assume innocence. Under duress, it is not unheard of for innocent people to confess to things they didn't even do.
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Why do people wear clothes at all?

1. For protection from the elements. Which is probably not going to be a factor in a home setting.
2. For modesty due to societal customs. Also not a factor in the privacy of your own home.
3. For decoration or style. Only relevant if other people are around.

Why wouldn't people go shirtless at home? Especially in hot weather.
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

Attraction is a natural instinct but it is not based on anything as specific as genitals. Children don't instinctively know about anatomy. It is learned information. For instance, children assume everyone has the same genitalia as themselves. It is a surprise for them to learn that boys and girls are different in that regard. If you remove a boy from society, never teach him about the differences between the sexes, and then introduce him to a pretty girl after he reaches puberty, he would likely still have a natural attraction but he would expect the girl to have a penis because he has never learned about anything else.

Just because you don't actively notice society shaping your opinions doesn't mean it isn't constantly happening.

Lmao

I notice you have no actual response to facts. Unsurprising.

Im actually against transphobic nonsense. Assuming how every child develops and not citing your claims is whats funny.

There is nothing to cite. I didn't assume anything. I presented a hypothetical situation based on common knowledge. Children don't know about sexuality. They learn about it. It is the entire reason the birds and the bees talk exists. Maybe you don't personally remember the first time you discovered boys and girls had different equipment but you absolutely did not know it innately. There is no way for you to have known.
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NinjaMaster

JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

Attraction is a natural instinct but it is not based on anything as specific as genitals. Children don't instinctively know about anatomy. It is learned information. For instance, children assume everyone has the same genitalia as themselves. It is a surprise for them to learn that boys and girls are different in that regard. If you remove a boy from society, never teach him about the differences between the sexes, and then introduce him to a pretty girl after he reaches puberty, he would likely still have a natural attraction but he would expect the girl to have a penis because he has never learned about anything else.

Just because you don't actively notice society shaping your opinions doesn't mean it isn't constantly happening.

Lmao

I notice you have no actual response to facts. Unsurprising.
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NinjaMaster

Attraction is a natural instinct but it is not based on anything as specific as genitals. Children don't instinctively know about anatomy. It is learned information. For instance, children assume everyone has the same genitalia as themselves. It is a surprise for them to learn that boys and girls are different in that regard. If you remove a boy from society, never teach him about the differences between the sexes, and then introduce him to a pretty girl after he reaches puberty, he would likely still have a natural attraction but he would expect the girl to have a penis because he has never learned about anything else.

Just because you don't actively notice society shaping your opinions doesn't mean it isn't constantly happening.
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It is almost like having a penis makes you more familiar with them.
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Aeris sounds like a name. Aerith sounds like a lisp.
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Now I want to watch Ernest Scared Stupid again.
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Dude has passed on. Get over it. And general consensus is that he was innocent. The only thing he was definitively guilty of was being eccentric.
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Complete_Idi0t posted...

why doesn't he just pass it to the open man if there's two people on him

lol @ passing in pick up basketball. How are you going to show off if you don't have the ball?
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Yes because strategizing is a big part of what makes any sport good, it's not all talent vs. talent

That's scrub talk.
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Double teaming in pickup is definitely weak. You can be competitive without resorting to unfun practices.
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Just for clarification, I am a strong believer in moral relativism. I don't even believe in right or wrong on any sort of absolute scale. So, if anyone thinks I am calling you a bad person, you are definitely projecting your own insecurities. The only thing I am doing is pointing out behavioral patterns and attitudes and calling them for what they are.
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sevihaimerej posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

nemu posted...

It's always weird seeing people advocating for overly extreme trans acceptance. Even if I met a transwoman who was otherwise the perfect partner for me, there would be literally nothing that would interest me in a relationship with her. There's nothing at all wrong with those who are fine with a trans partner, but they are going to always be a super minority of people.

lol, this is the most contradictory bunch of nonsense I have ever read.

You say she is the perfect partner in all ways except being transgender. You then say there is literally nothing that would interest you... but what about all the things they made them otherwise perfect? Those things are clearly not nothing. No, there are literally things you do like about them but they are being outweighed by the one thing you don't like.

And then your bit at the end trying to claim that people interested in dating trans partners will always be in the super minority is very clearly trying to justify your position simply by sake of it being the majority. And your claim that it will always be a minority view is based on absolutely nothing. You are just trying to subtly undermine their position without outright saying so.

Genitalia. Science can not yet replicate genitals well enough and can't produce a person capable of reproduction, these things are very important when it comes to sexual attraction. You need to have a talk with the tiger in space lol

You guys keep bringing up genitalia when no one was talking about it. You are not responding to my post at all. You are on some weird tangent and yet you think I am the one that should be talking to space tigers.
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nemu posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

nemu posted...

It's always weird seeing people advocating for overly extreme trans acceptance. Even if I met a transwoman who was otherwise the perfect partner for me, there would be literally nothing that would interest me in a relationship with her. There's nothing at all wrong with those who are fine with a trans partner, but they are going to always be a super minority of people.

lol, this is the most contradictory bunch of nonsense I have ever read.

You say she is the perfect partner in all ways except being transgender. You then say there is literally nothing that would interest you... but what about all the things they made them otherwise perfect? Those things are clearly not nothing. No, there are literally things you do like about them but they are being outweighed by the one thing you don't like.

And then your bit at the end trying to claim that people interested in dating trans partners will always be in the super minority is very clearly trying to justify your position simply by sake of it being the majority. And your claim that it will always be a minority view is based on absolutely nothing. You are just trying to subtly undermine their position without outright saying so.

Her innate status as a transperson means there is literally nothing that could cause me to be interested in a relationship with her despite how otherwise a perfect fit she may be for me. I'm saying that it's "normal" for people to not be at all interested in transpeople as partners, and that is not going to change. Nobody should be ashamed for being trans or being with a trans partner, but there seem to be some people here acting like the reluctance to be with transpeople is some societal brainwashing.

Do you often feel a need to be "normal"? Is that important to you?

I don't think you understand how environmental factors affect people's views. There is no way around it. Society clearly alters our views. Society doesn't decide for us but to deny its impact is delusional.
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HollowKnail posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

HollowKnail posted...

you guys just need to fucking grow up. not everyone will be attracted to you and it doesn't make them scum

No one called anyone scum. You guys sure seem to be projecting a lot.

I think you intentionally ignored my point

Your point is that you are making strawmen arguments. You guys are getting super defensive and claiming you are being called bigots, scum, etc. No one is doing that. You clearly are projecting your own insecurities about your position onto us and then trying to defend yourself against it.
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HollowKnail posted...

you guys just need to fucking grow up. not everyone will be attracted to you and it doesn't make them scum

No one called anyone scum. You guys sure seem to be projecting a lot.
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nemu posted...

It's always weird seeing people advocating for overly extreme trans acceptance. Even if I met a transwoman who was otherwise the perfect partner for me, there would be literally nothing that would interest me in a relationship with her. There's nothing at all wrong with those who are fine with a trans partner, but they are going to always be a super minority of people.

lol, this is the most contradictory bunch of nonsense I have ever read.

You say she is the perfect partner in all ways except being transgender. You then say there is literally nothing that would interest you... but what about all the things they made them otherwise perfect? Those things are clearly not nothing. No, there are literally things you do like about them but they are being outweighed by the one thing you don't like.

And then your bit at the end trying to claim that people interested in dating trans partners will always be in the super minority is very clearly trying to justify your position simply by sake of it being the majority. And your claim that it will always be a minority view is based on absolutely nothing. You are just trying to subtly undermine their position without outright saying so.
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NonDairyMiltank posted...

ImmatureContent posted...

shockthemonkey posted...

People seem obsessed with announcing and justifying why theyd never date a trans person.

Its suspect at best.

Definitely this. People rarely get so defensive

why would they need to defend that choice?

there's trans people who refuse to date cis people, other trans folk, certain genders, races, sexual orientations, fem/masculine presenters, etc
the demographic has its own share of prejudices and discriminatory habits
are you going to criticize them too and claim they need to be open to dating outside their preferences?

i doubt it

I wasn't criticizing anyone in particular. Everyone absolutely holds prejudices to varying degrees. The difference comes down to whether or not they are systematic and how those prejudices affect people as a whole. When the majority or people in power hold prejudices towards a minority group it has an entirely different impact and should be addressed. When one person doesn't want to date another person for whatever individual reasons... whatever.
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