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turbopuns3 posted...

Who would not be a safe choice for me to vote?

Scumbuddies, clearly.

Ulti is safe because he has claimed, most people have given thoughts already, and it's not too difficult to get him lynched. You don't have to make a safe play, but compared to anybody else on the votes list, he is a safe play.

Prove me wrong. Vote Hb
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

turbopuns3 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Yeah, really don't like puns's move there. Works to create content because it puts up a new top train but Ulti feels like a safe choice to push forward. Also seems to imply, if puns is Scum, that other trains are correct and hes trying to push us away from them.

Safe?

You think if I'm scum, I need a "safe" choice?

Me, the guy who in the past as scum posted a list of all his teammates names in his first post of a game, and went on to win the game.

I need a "safe" choice? Come on.

Yes
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Obellisk posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Obellisk posted...
I take it back Han. Topic 2, Page 5.

you are defending a town Scare, not calling a scare town.

So you know that Scare is Town? Interesting...

You and I both know I didn't say that.

SBell claimed to be mafia godfather.

Interesting...
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

htaeD posted...

So the Hulk thing was not a joke?

Did you like me when I was angry? (In topic 1)
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Phone browsers have a find function
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Can you qoute it might have been lost in the shuffle

No.

Ctrl+f "Hanof" to iso me
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

Anyways, Tange's responses both struck "fair enough".

The paranoia that's been lingering in my mind for a while now is "What if Red/Ulti is town/town and it's a colossal trainwreck waiting to happen?"

Ok so join me on pushing the guy whose only contribution was an awkward push to have some amount of activity while pushing a weaker target that others were pushing forward.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Obellisk posted...

I take it back Han. Topic 2, Page 5.

you are defending a town Scare, not calling a scare town.

So you know that Scare is Town? Interesting...

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Scare and I are masons, etc

Oh yeah what is the flavot give me your full claim then han

Literally already did
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Yeah, really don't like puns's move there. Works to create content because it puts up a new top train but Ulti feels like a safe choice to push forward. Also seems to imply, if puns is Scum, that other trains are correct and hes trying to push us away from them.

HB has showed up - made more substantial contributions recently, but has made no remark on me pointing out his skulking around.

UltimaterializerX posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: Marth

I agree the Sultan push doesnt look good, mainly because this dude voted for him.

Grab a falling Ulti, put it in your pocket...
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Did I say Scare was Town?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

To be clear, Scare is my Mason buddy but his alignment is not confirmed to me!
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Man, this pessimistic approach to mafia sure is fun, you should keep it up.

##unvote: corrik
##vote: marth

Hate Marth's recent posts. Still think that Corrik is Scum aaaaand Sultan and/or Death is as well. Hb is on my shortlist too.

Beyond that it becomes a smorgasbord of maybe scum
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

We know Hb has done little, while doing just enough to stay out of the inactive circle
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

We know plenty about the game. Cam is Town, Corrik is Scum, Ulti is Thanos, Scare and I are masons, etc
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I would also like to formally name Hb as the player who is most skirting under the radar.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

UltimaterializerX posted...

Can someone explain to me what Marth has actually done in this game besides voting for two easy targets?

Same thought.

Guy has done basically nothing until prodded in by Cam. Makes a flood of posts attacking Sultan (with an odd unexplained mention of me).

It really feels like he got pushed into doing something by his team to try to look good. Possibly just setting him in opposition to scummate Sultan?

Im not sold Sultan is Scum, but im also not sold Death is Town. I like Cam's fresh though processes and I don't like puns's insistence in tearing at it.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hey.

Nick.

Your [penix wright]
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

*cries at Ulti, wanting to be let through the door*
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

cats suck

*Just glares, tail gently swishing, as cats do when silently judging humans *

*hisses, unaware that is a cat himself. kneads a sweater that is on top of the dresser and takes a high perch, asserting that this is my room*
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

UltimaterializerX posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

cats suck

I've been working with animals for over a decade. This man speaks true.

ok i take it all back ulti is scum lynch this man and ban him from mafia forever
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

cats suck
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Ready? No going back from this. I'm going to hit you so hard you'll be begging for a replacement the moment you regain mental function.

Ready?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

DoubleTangicide posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Tange, if you could pick one person to claim for you, who would it be and why?

Like my role? Or my alignment?

One person to claim for you. Fully claim for you. Who would you want to claim for you?

This is literally the dumbest shit. Why are we entertaining Corrik having reign to do this?

Scare I will trust you my buddy on Sultan but I am curious of your thoughts on Corrik.

Speaking of power players, where is punso?

Crescent-Moon posted...

Anyways flying off a cliff early is exactly what I'm trying to avoid this game, so I would rather not.

Oh damn, wrong thing to say. You're in for it now. I'm gonna put you through the ringer.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Camarija posted...

Also has demonstrated they have read the game, which, if you're scum late to the game, why bother reading if you're just going to be low impact anyway?

Hard disagree on this point. Scum late to the game want to appear to be able to contribute.

Despite our activity having trouble at times, I wouldn't say B8 has the activity issues that I've heard MU can have in games.

Just because you're 21 hours late to the party doesn't mean you have to be low impact.

Tange will be low impact, he's always low impact
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Yeah, Tange is Town for that post.

Hey Red, since you're here, can you do something other than say Ulti is Scum because your flavor says he's dead? Or is there a way where you can elaborate on that with the intent to convince us to listen to you and lynch Ulti?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

UltimaterializerX posted...

When Han catches someone, they have 3 options: go inactive, brush it off, or outplay him and convince town to do something else. Corrik knows full well he is not capable of the last one.

I don't actually think Scum Corrik would be afraid of me, tbh.

Camarija posted...

But to Han, regardless of alignment, I'm sure he is nearing a breaking point and that's no fun for anyone

Nah. Getting my blood going is the fun and curse of this game. Like, I slept in this morning because I stayed up late due to my discourse with puns last night. But it was fun? And I'm pretty full of myself when it comes to this game because, if I'm not, then I don't trust my reads enough and then they end up right.

Corrik7 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Most of your post is answered in my initial post you quoted. The rest is because having maybe a stray town or two notice it versus the scum team gives information to the scum team over town.

No, it's really not. You left the actual reasoning behind things unclear, even in terms of advantages. But if you think "Scum knows who a bodyguard is but Town doesn't GASP WHAT A PROBLEM I BETTER FIX THIS" then you're clearly new to mafia.

Outted yourself foolishly to do it though.

lol I rolled bodyguard once ever and refused to use my power

literally already claimed Mason anyway

Okay. If that is your claim, what is your flavor?

*Rolls eyes*

xD you claim to be able to identify breadcrumbs and you missed my super fucking obvious flavor breadcrumbs?

Maybe you are Town, then, since Scum obviously knows.

I'm Hulk. Scare is Bruce Banner. We've learned to work together.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

Most of your post is answered in my initial post you quoted. The rest is because having maybe a stray town or two notice it versus the scum team gives information to the scum team over town.

No, it's really not. You left the actual reasoning behind things unclear, even in terms of advantages. But if you think "Scum knows who a bodyguard is but Town doesn't GASP WHAT A PROBLEM I BETTER FIX THIS" then you're clearly new to mafia.

Outted yourself foolishly to do it though.

lol I rolled bodyguard once ever and refused to use my power

literally already claimed Mason anyway
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Camarija posted...

However illogical there are some players Han will always want to give a Day 1 pass

It's not really a fun game playing that way but I understand the fallacy he's clinging to there

Ok, full stop, shut up with this shit.

Your argument for saying Scare is likely the lynch today is because he's been low impact, but he's done more than Marth/Eaed/Tange(who should be replaced by now).

There are other players who have been skirting by without making their voices loud (Hb, Crescent).

Scare is a good player. And there is no player who has straight up done me dirtier in a game than Scare (he suicided as Scum to get me lynched), so on a personal note, me defending him is out of respect for his play. Will I always defend certain players Day 1? No. Am I defending someone who has had his name mentioned because he hasn't said a whole lot and I know that player is good? Yes.

I wouldn't have nearly the hard-on for defending Red, who I also value highly as a player but he's been around and hasn't really done a whole lot.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

red13n posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

But if he is on the chopping block, he'd defend himself out of it. I have confidence.

Scare has been the most common day 1 lynch of the last couple years at least.

Not recently?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

It is likelier than he is unknowing town saying that about someone's alignment he doesn't know, but if Ulti is scum and Han is Town then Han likely just wanted to early breadcrumb he is bodyguard. Which is dumb because scum woulda picked that up easier over every individual town.

Hence why I am blasting it out now. I am not so sure Han would take that road as scum. It seems outside of his playing range, but it is again likelier than he said it earnestly from a random town spot.

Bs to breadcrumb is my analysis on it

No, I literally will ask you to lynch me if Scare is up for lynch. Not sure why I'm not allowed to defend a dude without being accused of breadcrumbing, and then having that supposed breadcrumb blasted out like that. Even if I were breadcrumbing, and even if it were obvious, what is even the point of announcing it to everyone? What is the functional advantage of the unobservant Town knowing somebody is a bodyguard instead of them not, but Scum knowing it? What is the advantage of breadcrumbing bodyguard anyway?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

UltimaterializerX posted...

Han, I dont think finding town makes me look like a dick (quite the opposite) but we can agree to disagree and talk about it post game.

As long as you promise to not bring out of game stuff into the game :V

Everything you said about Corrik there is kinda nothing. While I'm not saying you're lying, it is an appropriate defense if you were both Scumbuddies.

Will be funny if you are Scumbuddies together and your play at the beginning of this game that has people thinking you're Town ends up being for naught because Corrik attached to you.

Camarija posted...

Corrik7 posted...

Han and Scare Masons?

Only thing I can think of here. Why would scum or town say that about anyone?

That's mind blowing.

I was thinking it was more likely a wolf white knighting a villager, than a wolf defending a wolf

By white knighting, I mean, coming to the defense of a villager in the hopes of looking like said villager's white knight in shining armor

Yeah, white knight is an easy term to understand.

Let me clear this up: I have absolutely no read of Scare at the moment, outside from the one post of content he made seeming Townish. I stand by defending him because, to my memory, every time he has been a scanner, he has gotten a guilty result N1 (he's also lied about stuff N1 a lot too so maybe he can't be trusted but I would rather most players in this game die before him at this point), and as a player whose ability I respect, I would give him a chance to get over his migraine. But if he is on the chopping block, he'd defend himself out of it. I have confidence.

Also we're masons.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Let's go over Corrik's actions this game.

1. Makes a really lazy tunnel on Ulti because he claimed Thanos.
2. Adds Red to his list.
3. Talks about self.
4. Tunnels Ulti (and Red).
5. Responds to me.
6. Explains B8 miller meta.
7. Calls Cam Town before saying it is overzealous to eliminate players from your Scumpool.
8. Continues to tunnel Ulti.
9. Calls Cam Town again.

So basically, before I voted Corrik, he did 2 things. Call Ulti Scum without any real reasoning beyond flavor and then attached Red to it, as well as call Cam Town.

To his credit, since then, he's talked with Cam about Cam's self-confidence and said Death was Town (this statement gave me some slight hesitation) but that all is Corrik's pedigree this game.

He said Ulti Scum because he claimed Thanos. That's not an intelligent read in the slightest, and he's been mostly coasting on that since. Low energy, low impact, low thought play.

Don't forget I called my boy Puns town too! Glad you are actually reading the game somewhat! (At least going over my posts!)

Ah right, I did miss that one.

Also, don't be ridiculous. If I wasn't reading the game, I wouldn't have fingered you as Scum so easily.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

red13n posted...

Corrik you are reading way too hard into that I think.

Yeah ur probably right. It literally makes no sense otherwise.

no Scare and I are masons
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Let's go over Corrik's actions this game.

1. Makes a really lazy tunnel on Ulti because he claimed Thanos.
2. Adds Red to his list.
3. Talks about self.
4. Tunnels Ulti (and Red).
5. Responds to me.
6. Explains B8 miller meta.
7. Calls Cam Town before saying it is overzealous to eliminate players from your Scumpool.
8. Continues to tunnel Ulti.
9. Calls Cam Town again.

So basically, before I voted Corrik, he did 2 things. Call Ulti Scum without any real reasoning beyond flavor and then attached Red to it, as well as call Cam Town.

To his credit, since then, he's talked with Cam about Cam's self-confidence and said Death was Town (this statement gave me some slight hesitation) but that all is Corrik's pedigree this game.

He said Ulti Scum because he claimed Thanos. That's not an intelligent read in the slightest, and he's been mostly coasting on that since. Low energy, low impact, low thought play.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Literally "so and so can't be THIS bad!" like only Scum says that.

Ummmmmm this post.

wow

such scum
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I have no reason to clarify on those other parts, duh?

Corrik7 posted...

The reasoning is hogwash too. If scare has a power he could use it well? Like, wtf you don't even know his alignment supposedly, let alone if he has power, etc.

I mean, I don't think Han is this bad, but if Scare ends up being a Scum Extra Kill or some shit...

Ummmmm this post.

Also, this is literally a Scumpost so yeah, you're right, I'll probably tunnel you for the rest of the day.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Camarija posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Camarija posted...

ScareChan posted...

I like bens reactions early

reds energy is townie

ulti will sort himself

cam is playing distinctly different than his last game as scum so leaning town for now

This is pretty much his only game related post other than reversing his town read on me for 'raisins'

Camarija posted...

But again - Scare has literally avoided any meaningful engagement all game

That's probably the leading day 1 lynch contender

Once more, no, it won't be.

I mean, it sucks that he hasn't done much (migraine?) but Scare is one of the most accurate Town power users I've ever seen so even if he does fuckall today I will fight for him to get at least one night.

I feel like you're going to bat for Scare exceedingly hard here

Yeah. If it comes down to it, I'll die for him.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

turbopuns3 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hrrnngg Corrik is Scum and Cam is right ably Sultan and/or Death.

vote: corrik

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You clearly think I'm Town given you're being offish and dismissive

yo

I mean, I could've said "You clearly know I'm Town" but despite me saying Corrik is Scum I am not 100% in on it.

Corrik7 posted...

You don't know what I clearly think but just told me what I think.

Just reading into your actions is all.

If you were scum and Ulti is scum, I don't think Ulti highlights that you aren't tunneling him.

That's a foolish conclusion. And I mean, I get that you didn't play last game, but Ulti was whining about how I always target him no matter what (spoilers, I was right and he was Scum) so that's like, Ulti's thing. Him not commenting on it would be weird, because it would mean he's avoiding calling attention to it.

Your play this game has bordered on peculiar.

How so?

I think you appear to be trying to tunnel onto someone with what initially was fabricated reasoning to try and appear like you are doing something.

I've been doing plenty of things. And I'm not even tunneling you, and saying that I am is a clear misrepresentation of the situation. Literally, in the post where I say you're Scum, I mention two other people as a part of it. And that was all like 30 minutes ago, so I'm not sure why you're trying to attack my argument as tunneling when that's not what it is.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Camarija posted...

ScareChan posted...

I like bens reactions early

reds energy is townie

ulti will sort himself

cam is playing distinctly different than his last game as scum so leaning town for now

This is pretty much his only game related post other than reversing his town read on me for 'raisins'

Camarija posted...

But again - Scare has literally avoided any meaningful engagement all game

That's probably the leading day 1 lynch contender

Once more, no, it won't be.

I mean, it sucks that he hasn't done much (migraine?) but Scare is one of the most accurate Town power users I've ever seen so even if he does fuckall today I will fight for him to get at least one night.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

UltimaterializerX posted...

What is wrong with trying to figure out who town is with any and all legal information?

Because it's very unnecessary and just makes you look like a jerk, tbh.

Ulti, what do you think of Rik so far?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik7 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I believe he suicided without any consultation of his team because he thought it would be fun to claim his real flavor or some shit and told them to look good by voting him. (Won't be surprised if Ulti dies in activity as the game goes on if he isn't lynched here now. This was his contribution to the game his suicide.) Corrik attacked into it because if your teammate is suiciding what can you do at this point but jump onto it.

Good then you are on the same page that Ulti is scum. So we lynch him today. Thanks!

Corrik continues to be dismissive of me yet still throws light shade.

Does Corrik think I'm Scum? His dismissive tone towards me clearly indicates otherwise.

I addressed my thoughts on you above regarding your alignment.

No, but like, what you actually think.You clearly think I'm Town given you're being offish and dismissive, but since I'm likely right, you're doing that instead of being more aggressive with your defense.

You would know I'm Town so you're being light with the shade instead of pursuing it more aggressively.

Also "Ulti and Han aren't Scum together" is a really stupid conclusion that I don't think you arrive at if you're Town.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Camarija posted...

Honestly, I think Scare or a low hanging fruit bites the rope today

Scare isn't getting lynched today.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik7 posted...

I believe he suicided without any consultation of his team because he thought it would be fun to claim his real flavor or some shit and told them to look good by voting him. (Won't be surprised if Ulti dies in activity as the game goes on if he isn't lynched here now. This was his contribution to the game his suicide.) Corrik attacked into it because if your teammate is suiciding what can you do at this point but jump onto it.

Good then you are on the same page that Ulti is scum. So we lynch him today. Thanks!

Corrik continues to be dismissive of me yet still throws light shade.

Does Corrik think I'm Scum? His dismissive tone towards me clearly indicates otherwise.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

I believe he suicided without any consultation of his team because he thought it would be fun to claim his real flavor or some shit and told them to look good by voting him. (Won't be surprised if Ulti dies in activity as the game goes on if he isn't lynched here now. This was his contribution to the game his suicide.) Corrik attacked into it because if your teammate is suiciding what can you do at this point but jump onto it.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik7 posted...

So the question is. Was Han feeling a little uneasy people were questioning why he wasn't tunneling Ulti if he was town so he made up a reason to try and tunnel me.

Ok yeah this is literally the dumbest thing I have read in a game of mafia.

Puns I apologize for how I reacted last night I now see how bad things can truly be
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik has basically "Ulti/Red are Scum together" as his claim to this game. It's early, whatever. But he's stuck out because his contribution there ws "HEY GUYS I THINK CAM IS TOWN TOO also he's super wrong" and since has been... grilling Cam on his opinions of self?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hey Cam. Would you say Corrik is being a chaos maker with these questions? Want to make sure im using the term right.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Sorry, that post just earned the suspicion all back.

Rik is Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Well that post just dropped it 2% but I currently don't buy this as Town Corrik.

Cam's talking about unimpactful players and that defines Corrik pretty well here.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Ok yeah Corrik is Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic