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| Topic | Top Secret Russian Unit Seeks to Destabilize Europe, Security Officials Say |
| pls 10/08/19 12:58:40 PM #1 | https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/08/world/europe/unit-29155-russia-gru.html First came a destabilization campaign in Moldova, followed by the poisoning of an arms dealer in Bulgaria and then a thwarted coup in Montenegro. Last year, there was an attempt to assassinate a former Russian spy in Britain using a nerve agent. Though the operations bore the fingerprints of Russias intelligence services, the authorities initially saw them as isolated, unconnected attacks. Western security officials have now concluded that these operations, and potentially many others, are part of a coordinated and ongoing campaign to destabilize Europe, executed by an elite unit inside the Russian intelligence system skilled in subversion, sabotage and assassination. The group, known as Unit 29155, has operated for at least a decade, yet Western officials only recently discovered it. Intelligence officials in four Western countries say it is unclear how often the unit is mobilized and warn that it is impossible to know when and where its operatives will strike. The purpose of Unit 29155, which has not been previously reported, underscores the degree to which the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, is actively fighting the West with his brand of so-called hybrid warfare a blend of propaganda, hacking attacks and disinformation as well as open military confrontation. I think we had forgotten how organically ruthless the Russians could be, said Peter Zwack, a retired military intelligence officer and former defense attach at the United States Embassy in Moscow, who said he was not aware of the units existence. In a text message, Dmitri S. Peskov, Mr. Putins spokesman, directed questions about the unit to the Russian Defense Ministry. The ministry did not respond to requests for comment. There's more in the link. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Relatives Say China Has Begun Moving Xinjiang Muslim Detainees To Formal Prisons |
| pls 10/08/19 12:52:08 PM #2 | Soviet gulags on steroids --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Communist China gets Hearthstone player banned for a year for Liberation of HK |
| pls 10/08/19 12:36:18 PM #24 | Godnorgosh posted... pls posted...What the f*** does it mean for workers to control the party? In the case of China, Venezuela, they voted them in and publicly support them. How is that different? It feels like you're avoiding giving specific concrete answers, favoring instead to just respond with buzz words. How would it look differently than in Venezuela or China if the workers control the elected party and have "class consciousness"? What does that mean? How do you prevent disagreements between workers causing the decision making process to grind to a halt, without having some centralized authority that can mediate and guide the decision-making process? How can your vision ever exist in the real world without just making us all robots? --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Greta Thunberg effigy found hanging in Rome. |
| pls 10/08/19 12:22:55 PM #12 | ultimate reaver posted... the right is scary as fuck I repeat: pls posted... I'm a Greta fan and I'm fairly conservative. Let's not paint with wide brushes, esp when this could be a false flag. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Greta Thunberg effigy found hanging in Rome. |
| pls 10/08/19 12:22:19 PM #10 | I'm a Greta fan and I'm fairly conservative. Let's not paint with wide brushes, esp when this could be a false flag. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Communist China gets Hearthstone player banned for a year for Liberation of HK |
| pls 10/08/19 12:15:29 PM #20 | Godnorgosh posted... pls posted...Godnorgosh posted...CruelBuffalo posted...Godnorgosh posted...CruelBuffalo posted...Has there been any communist country What the fuck does it mean for workers to control the party? In the case of China, Venezuela, they voted them in and publicly support them. How is that different? And how does the workers seizing control prevent the company from simply collapsing? --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Jeff Bozo so smart and works so hard he deserve the money. |
| pls 10/08/19 12:07:57 PM #2 | No one is saying he can't be taxed more, but to pretend that he isn't responsible for the lion's share of the company is dishonest. He built it and hired people, many of them well paid, to further build it. It wouldn't exist without him and he makes the key decisions that lead to more growth. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Communist China gets Hearthstone player banned for a year for Liberation of HK |
| pls 10/08/19 12:03:11 PM #14 | Godnorgosh posted... CruelBuffalo posted...Godnorgosh posted...CruelBuffalo posted...Has there been any communist country @Godnorgosh I'll repeat the question you ignored earlier: Are you saying that if there is any elected party of any kind overseeing or helping to coordinate any aspect of society, it isn't the workers rising up and seizing the means of production? That it would somehow look different if workers did it without a "state"? There literally could not be a modern society without some level of organization and authority in a hierarchy, which would constitute a "state" --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Communist China gets Hearthstone player banned for a year for Liberation of HK |
| pls 10/08/19 11:56:02 AM #12 | Godnorgosh posted... pls posted...According to Godnorgosh if it isn't 100% successful and if it doesn't meet hundreds of random post-hoc criterion, it isn't real communism. Thanks for telling us that literally nothing about China or Mao had anything to do with communism. Should've known it was capitalism's fault all along. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Communist China gets Hearthstone player banned for a year for Liberation of HK |
| pls 10/08/19 11:51:27 AM #9 | CruelBuffalo posted... Godnorgosh posted...CruelBuffalo posted...Has there been any communist country China too. Ever read anything about Mao? Venezuela too. They weren't citing Marx and implementing his policies just for shots and giggles. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Communist China gets Hearthstone player banned for a year for Liberation of HK |
| pls 10/08/19 11:48:31 AM #7 | According to Godnorgosh if it isn't 100% successful and if it doesn't meet hundreds of random post-hoc criterion, it isn't real communism. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Racism that you experienced? (Part 2) |
| pls 10/08/19 11:46:22 AM #30 | Was denied a promotion opportunity at a previous job. It was given to a new hire who is a terrible engineer and left halfway through the project due to being incompetent. But she checked all the HR checkboxes and the company wanted to "diversify" the higher ranks, which is why she got the project. Was the only white kid at the inner city school I went to so I got picked on a lot because of being white. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | If you made $5,000/day, from 1492, Jeff Bezos would still make more in a week |
| pls 10/08/19 11:18:14 AM #30 | IShall_Run_Amok posted... Jeff Bezos and Amazon make as much money as he/they do/does by mistreating their workers. Then go fucking do it if it is so easy Bet you can't even run a lemonade stand lmao --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Conservatives want to designate AntiFa as a global terrorist organization |
| pls 10/08/19 9:34:31 AM #40 | Shablagoo posted... pls posted...A_A_Battery posted...To be fair a lot of those kurds are actual terrorists with terrorist activities in other countries that get random people killed, doesn't matter if they've fought against other terrorist groups either. Is going overseas to get trained by terrorists typically what anti-fascists do? --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Conservatives want to designate AntiFa as a global terrorist organization |
| pls 10/08/19 9:29:51 AM #37 | A_A_Battery posted... To be fair a lot of those kurds are actual terrorists with terrorist activities in other countries that get random people killed, doesn't matter if they've fought against other terrorist groups either. Are you saying that @Shablagoo knowingly praised terrorists just because he thought he could "stick it to conservatives" by doing so??? --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Ellen Degeneres defends her friendship with war criminal |
| pls 10/08/19 9:29:08 AM #17 | Shablagoo posted... pls posted...legendary_zell posted...People can be friends with whoever they want. But the only way to be friends with someone like Bush is to compartmentalize what he did in office. The chaos and death he caused abroad and the slowing progress on LGBT issues by supporting a constitutional ban on same sex marriage are especially relevant here. No one is immune from judgment for bad decisions. I'm gonna need you to give me a tl;dr and also a link to the credible body that convicted Bush of being a war criminal. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Ellen Degeneres defends her friendship with war criminal |
| pls 10/08/19 9:23:34 AM #13 | legendary_zell posted... People can be friends with whoever they want. But the only way to be friends with someone like Bush is to compartmentalize what he did in office. The chaos and death he caused abroad and the slowing progress on LGBT issues by supporting a constitutional ban on same sex marriage are especially relevant here. No one is immune from judgment for bad decisions. Decisions need to be contextualized within the knowledge / enlightenment of society at the time. We can't fault people in the past for not being up to modern standards 100% of the time, because none of the greatest people from the past were pure. Bush did bad things but it seemed more like unintentional outcomes rather than the goal. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Conservatives want to designate AntiFa as a global terrorist organization |
| pls 10/08/19 9:21:59 AM #35 | I've seen people say racist things here but I've not seen any regular known users defend any terrorist shootings at all. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | AOC defends her call for prison abolition |
| pls 10/08/19 9:11:35 AM #33 | EndOfDiscOne posted... UnfairRepresent posted..."I know the term 'prison abolition' is breaking some peoples brains. The right is already freaking out," Ocasio-Cortez tweeted to start a thread. I mean she has some good ideas/visions for the future, but she definitely says some stupid shit sometimes. I chalk it up to inexperience and too much credence given to Marx. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Conservatives want to designate AntiFa as a global terrorist organization |
| pls 10/08/19 9:09:28 AM #31 | Rexdragon125 posted... Guide posted...It's not even like antifa are good or anything. It's just this whole conservative attack on them literally only exists for political points, to make the literal, actual murderers on "their side" look less bad.They never seem to have anything to say about this. Their "both sides" doesn't work. I haven't seen a single person on CE defend the racist terrorist attacks. But I've seen plenty of CEmen defend the Red Guard and other comparable flavors of "antifa" --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Ellen Degeneres defends her friendship with war criminal |
| pls 10/08/19 9:06:12 AM #6 | FrisbeeDude posted... pls posted...Is there any reputable source regarding a "war criminal" conviction for Bush? The only one I found was this random commission made by some nobody, with its authority disputed by the UN. So is there a single reliable inquiry or investigation that convicted him as a war criminal? Or is it just this one commission that was put forth by a blatantly biased garbage source? --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | AOC defends her call for prison abolition |
| pls 10/08/19 9:04:44 AM #30 | Not locking up people who didn't commit violent or egregious crimes seems fine to me. Not sure why she chose to call it prison abolition, since having a smaller prison system is not the same as abolishing the prison system. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Ellen Degeneres defends her friendship with war criminal |
| pls 10/08/19 9:03:19 AM #4 | Is there any reputable source regarding a "war criminal" conviction for Bush? The only one I found was this random commission made by some nobody, with its authority disputed by the UN. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lumpur_War_Crimes_Commission --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Matter is said to be indestructable, can experiences and memories too? |
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| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:51:11 AM #108 | karlpilkington4 posted... Shablagoo posted...Clutch posted...Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) To be fair there are people who are trapped between a rock and a hard place and take what they can get. No reason why we can't make conditions better for those people. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Conservatives want to designate AntiFa as a global terrorist organization |
| pls 10/08/19 8:49:23 AM #25 | Shablagoo posted... pls posted...This is great, hopefully one day American Antifa can go fight ISIS instead of, you know, attacking the elderly. So the Antifa left behind on American land are just the weaklings who couldn't stand to fight against real tyranny, which is why they attack the elderly in the street? --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:48:04 AM #104 | Shablagoo posted... Clutch posted...Shablagoo posted...karlpilkington4 posted...What a silly topic. You make ALOT of money (real wealth) by investing and leveraging your money, not by selling your time for money, like most people (poor people) They make money off you because they provide the tools, the workspace, and the legwork that made it possible to work there in the first place. And they take on the risks of financing everything, whereas you are only concerned with your work. You make it sound like they're making off like bandits for nothing. If it's so fucking easy, why don't you do it? --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Playstation 5 confirmed for holiday 2020. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:37:00 AM #11 | Spooking posted... Sticking with PC. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:34:24 AM #97 | Clutch posted... averagejoel posted...the resources used to create wealth are not infinite, which means wealth cannot be infinite. wealth has to come from somewhere. He's been told that before but doesn't care. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:33:55 AM #96 | Godnorgosh posted... pls posted...Godnorgosh posted...Something people seem to forget when they make this "point" is that Amazon's facilities and resources wouldn't necessarily just disappear when Bezos' personal wealth is broken up. You don't have to sacrifice the warehouses, the technology, etc. So imagine if we were to redistribute Bezos' wealth and seize control of Amazon. Then former Amazon workers could self-determine their conditions of production and we could use that money for other purposes. Are you saying that if there is any elected party of any kind overseeing or helping to coordinate any aspect of society, it isn't the workers rising up and seizing the means of production? That it would somehow look different if workers did it without a "state"? There literally could not be a modern society without some level of organization and authority in a hierarchy, which would constitute a "state" --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:31:50 AM #94 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...Yeah I'll take this as an admission that you were wrong about Bezos bribing government with hundreds of billions of dollars. That couldn't have been further from the truth. You're qualifying your earlier fear mongering after being proven wrong, but still refusing to concede that you were way off. And whether or not you like it, a group of people who represent the company as a whole can lobby legally. That is decidedly different from Bezos bribing politicians with billions of dollars. You were just posting about how far billions are from millions, yet when you find out that Amazon as a whole lobbied to the tune of just $18 million in a whole year versus the hundreds of billions you mentioned earlier, that immense distance between a million and a billion was just a minor detail for you. Ffs. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | Conservatives want to designate AntiFa as a global terrorist organization |
| pls 10/08/19 8:28:25 AM #18 | This is great, hopefully one day American Antifa can go fight ISIS instead of, you know, attacking the elderly. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:14:39 AM #84 | Godnorgosh posted... Something people seem to forget when they make this "point" is that Amazon's facilities and resources wouldn't necessarily just disappear when Bezos' personal wealth is broken up. You don't have to sacrifice the warehouses, the technology, etc. So imagine if we were to redistribute Bezos' wealth and seize control of Amazon. Then former Amazon workers could self-determine their conditions of production and we could use that money for other purposes. Something like this perhaps? https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44136293 Seize the means of production, comrade! --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:12:23 AM #81 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...pinky0926 posted...pls posted...the point was that Bezos' wealth is mostly in company shares, so he isn't swinging around hundreds of billions to bribe government Yeah I'll take this as an admission that you were wrong about Bezos bribing government with hundreds of billions of dollars. That couldn't have been further from the truth. And Amazon's lobbying is all legal and as far as I know. Companies aren't forced to just remain subservient to whatever the government wants. They're composed of people too, and if their needs aren't met they can lobby and start conversations. The amount they spent on lobbying is a miniscule sum given their heft and their potential. It's a fraction of what you blindly asserted it was. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 8:04:55 AM #77 | treewojima posted... now you're going to talk about tax revenue? from Amazon? the whole point of these subsidies is to eliminate as much tax revenue as possible You are not measuring tax revenue correctly. The subsidies reduce Amazon's tax bill, but that doesn't mean they get rid of the tax revenue. Anyone who gets HQ2 will have a net gain in tax revenue. Big boost to the local economy. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 7:57:38 AM #72 | treewojima posted... yeah, I was gonna say, the very mention of HQ2 was enough to make my state and local governments start sucking dick, not to mention all the subsidies for the AWS datacenters they've built and are still building They get special treatment because of how much tax revenue they would bring in. States have to compete for that. They can't build a new headquarters everywhere, so obviously they're going to do it where it is best for the company. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 7:56:37 AM #70 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...the point was that Bezos' wealth is mostly in company shares, so he isn't swinging around hundreds of billions to bribe government Do you read your own fucking links? "Last year, Amazon spent $14.2 million on lobbying, a record for the company, up from its previous high mark of $12.8 million in 2017" There is a vast difference between Amazon as a company spending $14.2 million in a year on lobbying, and Bezos bribing government with hundreds of billions of dollars. You are literally factually wrong, dude. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 7:49:58 AM #63 | pinky0926 posted... pls posted...pinky0926 posted...coh posted...Envy is one of the seven deadly sins the point was that Bezos' wealth is mostly in company shares, so he isn't swinging around hundreds of billions to bribe government --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 7:39:28 AM #54 | pinky0926 posted... coh posted...Envy is one of the seven deadly sins Yeah Bezos is totally gonna sell his Amazon shares to sway the elections in Zimbabwe. Let's get real. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 7:38:36 AM #51 | Hornezz posted... A lot of people really seem to have no idea how to deal with figurative language. Protip: the quote isn't actually meant as an advice to get rich. He's making a point about how large of a number $100b is. Or start the next Amazon and become richer than Bezos. Bezos wasn't always the richest person and he won't always be the richest person. Someone else will come along who builds something worth more. That is the key part that the meme ignores. Bezos isn't sitting on mountains of cash. He is sitting on the businesses he built which generate value for hundreds of millions of people. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | If you made $5,000/day, from 1492, Jeff Bezos would still make more in a week |
| pls 10/08/19 7:36:09 AM #26 | CyricZ posted... Clutch posted...GhettoFlip posted...Even if you worked everyday and even if you worked until the year 2546 The majority of wealthy people are first generation rich --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | If you made $5,000/day, from 1492, Jeff Bezos would still make more in a week |
| pls 10/08/19 7:12:01 AM #22 | CyricZ posted... Shablagoo posted...Careful, when your type has a melty over me it tends to end up landing you in hot water. Imagine reading that person's posts and still joining that side. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 7:09:16 AM #31 | CyricZ posted... pls posted...@CyricZ did you have any specific or meaningful commentary anywhere in that word salad? You should be capable of recognizing a shitty argument when there is one, because acknowledging that this argument is shit doesn't mean you have to support low taxes for billionaires. LOL at thinking quality of argument has anything to do with # of banned accounts. Come on lad. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | If you made $5,000/day, from 1492, Jeff Bezos would still make more in a week |
| pls 10/08/19 7:02:26 AM #18 | Shablagoo posted... This is asinine. Labor creates capital, not the other way around. Capital wouldnt exist without labor. Labor wouldn't exist at today's scale without capital either, comrade. Stop ignoring that part of the equation. Bezos did build multiple businesses that went on to employ tens of thousands of direct employees and millions more from the tax revenue and economic activity those businesses generated. You don't need to support low taxes for Bezos in order to acknowledge this basic economic fact. And you completely ignored the argument I made about why your comparison is illegitimate. And also the argument about why this meme is idiotic. You are wasting my time so don't expect any additional replies until you address those in earnest. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 6:59:07 AM #25 | @CyricZ did you have any specific or meaningful commentary anywhere in that word salad? You should be capable of recognizing a shitty argument when there is one, because acknowledging that this argument is shit doesn't mean you have to support low taxes for billionaires. Time to level up your thought process a bit and stop being so black and white. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | A lot of people really seem to have no idea how much a billion dollars is. |
| pls 10/08/19 6:54:23 AM #22 | Shablagoo posted... If you were immortal you could someday have more money than Jeff Bezos! Keep your pathetic ignorance confined to the other topic https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/78070950#16 --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | If you made $5,000/day, from 1492, Jeff Bezos would still make more in a week |
| pls 10/08/19 6:53:46 AM #16 | Shablagoo posted... pls posted...Shablagoo posted...pls posted...Shablagoo posted...Damn_Underscore posted...pls posted... Bezos is invested into things that go up in value. It is an illegitimate comparison to compare someone earning just cash to someone working for equity in businesses over cash. And if you earn $5,000 a day for 500 years and never bother to put that money into property and businesses then that is your problem. Jesus I swear to God CE. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | If you made $5,000/day, from 1492, Jeff Bezos would still make more in a week |
| pls 10/08/19 6:52:28 AM #15 | LukeFalk posted... What if I invested it all instead of leaving it under my mattress? Socialists have no conception of basic finance and investing so of course they didn't consider this. And that is exactly why Bezos is richer than they will ever be. Bezos invests into things that grow up in value. Socialists work just to consume. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | If you made $5,000/day, from 1492, Jeff Bezos would still make more in a week |
| pls 10/08/19 6:49:32 AM #11 | Shablagoo posted... pls posted...Shablagoo posted...Damn_Underscore posted...pls posted... The meme is arguing that you could earn $5,000 per day for over 500 years and still be less rich than Bezos. The meme is idiotic for the reasons already mentioned. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
| Topic | If you made $5,000/day, from 1492, Jeff Bezos would still make more in a week |
| pls 10/08/19 6:45:13 AM #9 | Shablagoo posted... Damn_Underscore posted...pls posted... Then you wouldn't be working for 500 years and this topic was even more stupid than I expected. --- Do good. Eat communists. |
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