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#12 Makoto Naegi

How many words do you need to make a full description of Makoto? Two. "Shounen" and "Protagonist". Makoto has been described.

Makoto is not a bad character per se. It was clear what the developers wanted from him: he is basically Link. He's the neutral character the audience relates to. He asks the right questions and reacts obviously to things.

He never hinders the game's immersion, except for that one time where you're forced to hide information from Kyoko. But never adds much, either. His supposedly big moment is being the Ultimate Hope at the end, but he accomplishes that by yelling generic heroic phrases. He does sacrifice himself to save Kyoko, but it's not clear if he was expecting to die either, so he doesn't get many herosim points. He is more intelligent than almost everyone in the cast, but compared to other intelligent mystery game protagonists, like Phoenix and Apollo, Makoto lacks a personality that makes it feel he's making great insights, instead of just following the logic the player makes him follow. The insights and the bluffs all come from Kyoko anyway.

I wonder if the next games' MCs have more than one dimension.

#13 Mukuro Ikusaba

I was undecided between her and Leon for #13, but she won because her backstory sounds pretty dope. I said "sounds", because the only thing we get are some notes from a student profile.

She has some dialogue at the start but I barely remember it, and the only thing I remember is her talking about photoshop, which turned out to be a lie crafted to improve her Junko disguise. And that's plot, not character, so no points here.

I feel bad for ranking her this low because I feel like a proper backstory could shoot her up maybe 10 positions upwards, and maybe we'll get it in future installments. But for now she's just the decoy that was necessary to hide Junko until the end.

#14 Leon Kuwata

The poster child for the short end of the stick. Case 1 is all about Sayaka, and someone was needed to kill her in quasi-self defense, then get executed for it. So Leon gets to be the only killer in this game who is less interesting than his victim.

Because he doesn't last long, he doesn't get a deep character arc. He was a star baseball player who now wants to be a musician. A potentially good story, but it's given away in a single dialogue and never developed from that.

I don't have much more to say. I don't blame Leon for being uninteresting, because someone had to be.

Hbthebattle posted...

Hiro, amusingly, isn't actually lying about his abilities

That somehow makes sense.

#15 Kyotaka Ishimaru

This one might surprise some, because I hardly talked much about Taka all game. But the reason is that I was always expecting Taka to have this moment and develop into something interesting. And he never did.

He is part of a common character archetype. He is the student council guy who is crazy about following rules and wipes the other kids into shape. Some other examples are Gamagoori from Kill la Kill, and Iida from Hero Academia. But those two are much better, because their status as a moral compass allows them to be noble and heroic. They believe in the system when others don't. They can be empathetic and sacrifice themselves for justice. They can have character arcs where they come to terms with the necessity of breaking rules sometimes.

Taka is nothing of that. His main job is to get people not to be late for breakfast. Then he predictably loses his shit about Mondo due to him being a delinquent. Then they do the sauna contest, and he spends the rest of Chapter 2 being Mondo's bro. Then Mondo dies and he goes catathonic. Then he finds a way to simulate Mondo in the AI and turns into a weird super saiyan. Then you think he's going to be an interesting character now, and he dies immediately after. The end.

It feels like the developers didn't know what to do with him, so his arc is a bunch of random events. He doesn't get to be the team's moral compass, because Sakura is much better at that. Taka not only fails to break character, but he doesn't even do the good things about his character properly, because others do for him.

#16: Yasuhiro Hakagure

Unless Toko, it seems they actually tried to make this guy likable. But they failed spetacularly. The first issue is that he feels less like a character and more like a random amalgamation of occultist babble.

I'd like to compare him to Hifumi. Hifumi also has a "profession" that is not very respectable and is a disgusting person all around. But with Hifumi, it seems they actually made some effort to learn what otaku culture is about and write a character who feels like a real person. You may not appreciate Hifumi, but you get what he is about. He likes 2D girls and he has a lot of appreciation for his art and the art of his peers.

Hiro just randomly spouts crap about the future, and aliens, and ghosts, and fails to make sense. Sometimes he's energetic about it and sometimes he's angry that you are mistaking his "work" for "the occult", whatever that is. There are characters in fiction who are all about occultism, but even when they are fake, they still try to make you feel like their field is some kind of science. With Hiro, it feels like someone read a bunch of occult books and randomly plastered sentences from them into his dialogue. He is less like an "Ultimate Clarivoyant" and more like that guy from college who is trying to make a quick buck by reading the future of depressed undergraduates.

They tried to make him the comic relief, but it doesn't work well because the stuff he says is too random, so like I said before, he rarely lands his jokes.

Hiro's other issue is how he is used a plot device. He has the IQ of a plant, so whenever you need to make a trial longer, or when you need some very obvious concept to be explained to the audience, or you when need a scapegoat, you bring Hiro into the fray, have him act like a dumbass, and there is your filler. But that is lazy writing, and is made annoying by the fact Hiro is a bad character.

The reason he is not dead last is that sometimes he is funny, and his English dub helps at that. Also there is a side of him that is this cool dude that can be chill even when other characters are nervous, but it's very rare, as he's usually the first to panic.

Ok, let's rank them.

I'm aware there are other games/media, so consuming those might change my opinions of the characters later on. If so, I'll just update the rankings after that. I'm just dieing to talk about the characters right now.

#17: Toko Fukawa

Let's start with the obvious. It takes a lot of work to make a character as aggressively bad as this one.

Half the time she is being a nymphomaniac mashochist. Which is funny maybe the first time, then it gets old, but the game keeps hammering that non-stop. In trials, in investigations, in any moment that is supposed to be serious.

The other half, she is just a complete, unrepentant bitch. She decicates herself to being unpleasant to everyone around, and trying to bully whoever seems to be the weakest person in the room, usually Hina. Over time, the sex maniac side becomes more proeminent over the bitch side, but that doesn't help much.

GJ doesn't redeem her. Because after the initial joy of seeing GJ, you realize they are separate personalities and you'll still have to stand Toko for as long as she is alive (which is all game). It doesn't help that we never get an explanation on how she developed a second personality, which would maybe help connect her to GJ. She is just a masochist who happens to share a body with a serial killer, that's it. I could consider them as a single character and put them closer to the middle of the ranks, but that wouldn't change the fact Toko sucks.

The game also forgets she is a writer, to the point even Hiro lampshades it at some point. I mean, writers are cool people, and writer characters tend to be smart and interesting. A lot could have been taken from that to develop Toko into a more compelling character, but they never use that chance.

Put her in any of those AA full character lists, and she is Bottom 5. She's that bad.

Dark Young Link posted...

You get more of the story in the sequel. It's worth being in the dark about until then.

That's all I needed. Thanks.

I'm this close to googling Junko to find out if she has a more elaborate backstory. Someone stop me.

Also we are intentionally kept in the dark with The Tragedy, but I think it will either be revealed in future games, or kept hidden on purpose since it seems to be more of an abstract thing. I'm fine with either.

Anyway, cool game. The plot is very good, and I loved how Case 5/6 was set up from the start. Really makes the whole thing feel like one big puzzle.

The weakness is easily the gameplay. All minigames are terrible, as others have mentioned, except the comic book one. This game I played with both logic and gameplay set to the middle difficulty (and couldn't find where to change it during the game). Next one I might set gameplay to the easiest and logic to the hardest, like some guy has suggested.

Aesthetics are great, too. Soundtrack is great, cutscenes are pretty cool, especially the execution ones. It really adds to the suspense and gore of the game.

Some things were not very clear. Junko's story, for example. Like she was just born with despair and decided to screw everything up? Would like some more clarification. It seems her "despair" is an allegory for depression, but it would be interesting to see her story. Will the following games elaborate on her and her sister?

I think I'll rank the characters now, then move to the 2nd game. I considered doing a character rank for all the series, but I guess I'll just merge the rankings for each game once I'm finished.

And I got that the "body" thing referred to the memory loss. Because Kyoko was aware she had forgotten what her role was.

hombad46 posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Did they not notice their bodies growing and changing, either?

Pretty sure at one point Kyoko asks what Monokuma did to her body. I believe that was her noticing two years of growth

Yes, but you would expect that to be a common subject in their daily conservation, not something only the Ultimate Detective can notice.

Sudden twin reveal! We can't have mystery game without one.

I like Junko already. She's completely nuts.

It makes sense, though. She played Monokuma for days. That was probably a prt of her personality showing.

Talking about motives reminded me of this phrase from TF2: As long as there are two people alive on Earth, someone will want someone dead.

HOLY SHIT. Genocide Jill knew everything from the start, and didn't bother to say it. Amazing.

So the start of the game was too years ago, and nobody noticed. Did they not notice their bodies growing and changing, either?

This is like that scene at the start of Avengers Endgame where they kill Thanos. After he wiped out half of the cast and destroyed the world. An empty victory.

I guess the game won't reveal what the Tragedy was, but I'm getting a parallel to the real world. In the game, it seems people progressively became more aggressive and hateful, and relationships became polarizing, until the civil unrest got out of control and turned into a chain reaction. We haven't gotten to that point in real life, but it's worrying how society keeps getting more polarized.

I mean, the Ultimate Despair also played a role, but they could have just been the catalyst. Maybe stage a terrorist attack, or spread fake news, and give people a reason to want to kill each other. So they all became animals.

An extended argument where you have to convince everyone, and if you get to the end, you take damage. Attack despair with hope. Cheesy, but nice.

Junko is about to kill herself. Time to cick the SPARE button.

Meh. I guess this isn't Undertale.

So they get to leave. Into an apocalyptical word. But they have no choice but to press forward and try to rebuid it.

And Monokuma still lives! - DUN DUN DUN

MrSmartGuy posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Those comic book presentations are the best part of this game. I hope the sequels have more of it.

For all the minigames Danganronpa as a series likes to fuck with and make worse, the comic books remain virtually untouched.

Yes!

Hiro theorizes everyone is the mastermind. Sorry Hiro, but you're not the MC. I mean, a game with you as MC would suck.

Oh it's the picture. Nice ploy, Monokuma.

Junko's face never shows. This is like Sayaka's dieing message. A bit too obvious. Or maybe it's because I had a spoiler.

Monokuma is taking part in the debates now? The Mastermind must really be on the edge of their seat.

Toko is mad she was made to go all cutesy. Considering Toko, that would be an improvement.

Monokuma is demanding evidence it was not Mukuro who attacked Makoto. Shut up bear, you don't even get a vote.

Kyoko is savoring her words as she shows her scars to prove she is innocent. Hardcore.

Oh it's the Junko who died early. She's Mukuro and those wounds are for being stabbed by Monokuma. The real Junko has never showed herself. And I spent the whole game thinking that murder was staged.

"Makoto's nitpicky nature". Aka his status as an adventure game protagonist. Click everything, talk to everyone.

BTB against Monokuma. Take that, bear.

The Mastermind is paying for making this game too fair. She could have just incinerated all the bodies in the morgue before opening it up for investigation. It would be dirty but maybe the audience wouldn't have paid attention. Monokuma has done dirtier things in this game. It's like how I say they should have sealed the bath from the beginning.

Makoto is cornered and is on the verge of giving up. Where is Mia Fey to show up and say "You are thinking too normal, think crazy"?

Monokuma is desperate, so he resorts to a BTB where he keeps going "Graaar!". Very strong argument, indeed.

Those comic book presentations are the best part of this game. I hope the sequels have more of it.

Real!Junko doesn't look that different from the fake one. But what is that voice lol. Oh never mind she's pretending.

Oh I remember her saying her photos were photoshopped. Damn I always blew hher cover at the start. It did seem like the magazines looked slightly different though. That's a nice piece of detail, developers.

Oh ok.

Well I don't mind the spoiler, I dislike it when I think something is not ending but it is.

I read the ending of Dr. McNinja thinking it had 3 parts for some reason (I guess I just assumed it), and when it ended on Part 2 I was pretty annoyed.

tcaz2 posted...

Yeah I'll just go ahead and say there are not 7 chapters and I'm not sure where you got that <_<

All of the DR games are 6 chapters.

The menu shows 7 chapters.

The Popo posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

I may or may not have seen a pic of Toko when I searched for the name of one of the games (the one with girls) to see what it was about and saw her picture. So I know she survives, unless that game is not canon. Sorry, but it's hard when you can't even look up what games there are in the series without getting spoilers.

Do you have any questions about Ultra Despair Girls that we can answer, or did you find most of the info you wanted? Ultimately, the game takes place between DR1 & DR2 chronologically, but if you do play it, you should play it after you beat DR2.

Also, its completely different from the rest of the series. Somewhat of a spinoff, but its definitely canon. The 3 main games are the whodunnit games, whereas UDG is an action adventure. I think Im in the minority when I say I enjoyed it...

Eh not really for now. Thanks.

We back at the school. I was expecting more exploration of hidden areas, but I guess this game won't break format so soon.

Kyoko manages to talk Monokuma into submission. So redoing the last trial is now pawsible.

The Mastermind is trying to prove a point. That Despair is stronger than Hope. So they set up this survival game to make the students kill each other, in what is probably an already planned structure to keep the students forever in order to protect Hope. They prove Hope can't last long, so for us to win, we need to prove it can.

The whole school is unlocked. The Mastermind is really going All In.

Headmaster Room. Kyoko has been here before, so it's obviously not the most interesting room. But there's some juicy new info on Mukuro.

Monokuma Door. And it's the room that controls Monokuma. I have to wonder, did the monitor and Monokuma rooms really have to be separate ones? Feels contrived.

Aoi left because she wanted to be useful, and now she's hiding behind Makoto while he does all the work. lol Aoi.

Biolab. There are 9 slots with dead bodies in it. But there are 10 dead students, right?

2nd floor of the living area. Looks like a war happened here. Most rooms are useless though, I guess it's just to show what happened before.

Father used his daughter's name as password, so he loved her after all! Classic.

His bones are in a box, though. Beside a picture of Kyoko. Poor girl can't even get closure.

Locker room. Some hints that this was a normal school before Monokuma took over and erased everyone's memories. Well, almost normal, it was still a shelter against the end of the world.

There is an egyptian style eye on one of the walls. Creepy.

We have a class picture. Mukuro is in it, but the most interesting thing is that Makoto isn't. Did he not take part in the previous class? Maybe that's why he's just a "lucky student", he was picked now just to fill a gap?

We get a truth bullet about memory involving GJ? Interesting. I guess it's relevant to how Toko discovered the body. Knew there was something in that.

Sayaka's video. So the Mastermind erased people's memories to make them forget why they wanted to stay in the school. Which led them to kill each other to leave. Maybe Sayaka's friends were already dead before the game started and she didn't even know it, even though her previous self was ready to stay in school to be safe. Damn.

GJ is proposing we unleash her on the mastermind. I approve. Then she reverts back to Toko. "No human language can describe the disappointment I'm feeling right now". Well put, Kyoko.

The narration is really implying this is the final trial. I guess Chapter 7 is the epilogue, or something? Or there is yet another trial ahead.

Eh tbh nobody should expect to completely avoid spoilers years after something is released. It's common sense.

I know jack shit about 2 and 3 though (except 2 starts in an island but that's the premise), so it should be easier to avoid spoilers.

I do know Makoto is the protagonist of the anime but hey he's the MC so the fact he's alive is not shocking.

swirIdude posted...

Didn't we tell you not to Google?!

Yes, but normally it's easier to avoid spoilers than that. It's a game, I should be able to see its name and description without being spoiled right out of the window.

At this rate I might get spoiled for going to the steam shop to buy things.

I may or may not have seen a pic of Toko when I searched for the name of one of the games (the one with girls) to see what it was about and saw her picture. So I know she survives, unless that game is not canon. Sorry, but it's hard when you can't even look up what games there are in the series without getting spoilers.

Case 5 is over.

Weird case. It was all a phony case so it didn't have a satisfying end. But the whole plot is getting pretty good, so I've been marathoning it all day. I think I'm about to finish this game fast, because I want to know what happens now.

Kyoko jumps down to help me. Kyoko + Makoto undercover mission. This game is really a thriller now.

So the Mastermind cheated, which means they are cornered, which means the game is nearly over. Starting to feel like we won't have to wipe out the entire cast like I was expecting. Maybe a couple more deaths, but maybe some will survive.

Aoi: "I might be dumb, but even I'm not dumb enough to believe that". And that illustrates exactly why Aoi is a good character while Hiro isn't.

Kyoko looks extremely chill whenever she is accused. Hard to say if she's even nervous.

"Go ahead Makoto, surely you know what is the murder weapon". Eh, not sure. I'm not seeing any "udon" option in the evidence section.

Please continue talking about literature, Toko. You might become an actual character by Chapter 7, if you're still alive then.

Kyoko is cornered. So she's about to drop a megaton bombshell. Wait for it...

Boom. She couldn't have possibly put the key there because Byakuya had it. I almost want to call him as the murderer, but that sounds like the dumbest mistake ever for him to make, so I won't.

So it was all a set up, probably for Monokuma to learn what Kyoko was doing. This 4D chess is too much for me, lol.

NOOOOOOOOOO Kyoko. And what a sad death scene. Did Monokuma just break his own rules, though?

Future ending, babies ever after. Toko is dead (wonder how she died if there were no more murders, suicide?), and Hina married everyone.

Yeah right. What's the twist?

Ha! It was all just imagination. And Makoto decides to believe in the Power of Friendship. Kyoko lives! Fuck yeah!

Time's up again. The game gives me ranks and coins so I think it's for real this time. What now, Monokuma?

Makoto to be executed. Is this more imagination?

YOU HAVE BEEN H4X0RS. Chihiro ex Machina to the rescue.

This feels like that part in Portal when you escape through the wall and now you are the one chasing the big bad. Nice.

You have a strange taste.

Yay let's discuss evidence while Toko orgasms about the idea of wet bodies. Awesome (not).

Kyoko Kirigiri just smashed my alibi. If this wasn't a game I think I'd piss my pants. It's like being called a murderer by Hercule Poirot.

Justice for the chickens! Also lol at Hina wanting to eat them. A swimmer needs her protein, I guess.

I was wondering why the game let me walk to the gym after Hina called me, instead of teleporting me there with her. Turns out it was to blame me for the murder. Sneaky developers.

I gotta say, this feels like the most well executed murder so far, with the whole cover up and bomb things. Starting to feel like a Byakuya job.

Are we actually having a debate on whether Kyoko is a ghost or not? Are we really doing that? Seriously, game?

(Then again if this was AA it would be a reasonable and opportune debate to have)

Toko shows she knows about literature. After 5 chapters I'd kind of forgotten this was an attribute of her character, with the whole focus on being a masochist and a bitch. Even Hiro lampshades that.

Monokuma wants us to stop talking about plot and go back to the trial. But I wanna talk about plot, danmit!

Monokuma says the killer is "part of the student body", but not that he's one of the 6 in the room. Interesting.

A) Suicide, or accident. It's possible but after Sakura's thing it's kind of boring.

B) One of the peeps from the previous 4 cases did it, and the body was only found now. I think the blood was fresh, though? But it has old wounds.

C) It's really one of the 6, and we have a tricky situation. Kyoko is probably out because she's a protagonist, and the rest have alibis. So we need to break those alibis somehow. If we do, occam's razor says it's Toko because she found the body, but it might not be that simple. Byakuya seems to be out because he was really investigating it this time, but I wouldn't put it past Byakuya. The other 2 are stupid, but again, everything is possible.

B is my favorite theory.

I plan on ranking all characters after this game ends. And spoiler: I'm going to rank Toko and GJ separately. Because GJ deserves better than being dragged down by Toko.

I guess they tried to make him funny, that's the point.

But yeah he lands the jokes maybe 10% of the time.

She and Hiro. Two characters with no depth who stay alive because they are funny.

Red and white fingernails. Matches Junko's style, iirc. Hey, Junko. Dead again? This is where the part about knowing Junko is the final villain interferes, except I don't know the details so I have no idea how she can die twice before even appearing as final villain.

Hiro has the best dubbed lines. "Conspiracy!". "The end is nigh!" It doesn't make sense but it's funny.

Makoto thinks he may have done it. Yay, we are the main suspect again! At least the game overs will go back to make sense.

The bomb that blew the corpse is apparently the one that was in Monokuma this morning. Ha! How is that for an alibi, jerkasses?

Some info on Mukuro. She's a super soldier and a mercenary. Or was. Not sure.

Monokuma gives away it's not Kyoko, because Kyoko is supposed to have a hand full of scars.

Byakuya is almost as good a detective as Kyoko, except he's an asshole so it's hard to appreciate him.

Kyoko lives! And she was in the 2nd floor of the living area. Mysteries upon mysteries.

You know, last time I was in this elevator, I imagined it going down with even fewer people next time. I never thought it would have the same number of people in the next one.

Why is the courtroom so pink? Anyway, trial next.

Free time. Let's talk to Toko. I tried to give her a whip but she didn't dig it. I give up.

Byakuya next. He likes my tea. Then he starts asking me what it feels like to be loser, and I tell him he is spoiled. He doesn't take it lightly, apparently he is very proud of the things he had to do in his life. Interesting.

Makoto dreams of himself saying his goal is to stay there, not leave. This matches with the thing Kyoko said about the school not being that bad.

I guess the school is some beacon of hope in the middle of a dystopia and they should preserve it? But the Mastermind is trying to destroy it. This feels like that manga Ultimo, where good and evil robots battle to prove whether good or evil is the strongest.

Suddenly, a masked dude with a knife. Then Kyoko. This is random.

Holy shit they broke a Monokuma. Aw yeah fight the powah!

They found him not moving. My guess is that Kyoko has been sabotaging things at night.

Time to storm the heamaster's room. But it's still chapter 5 out of 7, so this is totally going to backfire.

Yes, send Toko alone to get a pickaxe. She's not coming back is she.

Oh she's back. As GJ and with no piackaxe. But most importantly, someone died. Probably that goon from the spoiler, but I hope it's not Kyoko wearing that mask.

We try to check it and it blows up. Still no identity. This game turned into a thriller fast. At least there was no body announcement, I was expecting Monokuma to trial us for killing the thing. Or maybe he will once the Monokumas start working again.

Into the data center. This really feels like the endgame. Byakuya wants to learn everything before leaving the school. He is right, for all we know it's nuclear winter out there.

There is a Monokuma Door and it's locked. Because it's too soon to enter the Final Boss room, I guess.

Monokuma is back! And the game is being broadcast to the world. We Hunger Games now.

Yep. We are being trialed. Without even being sure if it's really Kyoko. Makes me think it's not, or this death would be too anti-climatic.

Also I dig the new song, with the guitar solo. Though the old one was pretty good though. This game has a great soundtrack. The investigation songs and the one that plays in the end of trial comic book are my favorite ones.

I think Kyoko is likely to die at some point, but I wish it's not in this chapter. She's such a great character.

But the plot seems to be having an oversaturation of Kyoko lately so it's very likely something will happen to her. Hope it's just kidnapping or something.

The game is now spoiling the heck out of the plot. In 3 days, one of those masked goons is going to fall dead. Interesting.

Byakuya told Toko not to open her mouth without his permission. I gotta say, those two are almost cute together. Almost.

Byakuya vows never to small talk again. Haha. Fat chance.

5th floor! Seems like it's the last one of the school, too.

Monokuma is letting us know the exact time the sprinklers activate. Not because of a future murder or anything, of course.

"It's a chicken. It doesn't have a second form, right?". I'd expect anything, Makoto.

A room filled with blood and corpse lines. And Monokuma says he's got nothing to do with it. I guess that was The Tragedy?

I was expecting a Bio Lab after the Phys and Chem ones, but not expecting it to be locked. Huh.

Kyoko doesn't remember who she is. I'm guessing her own memory erasure went wrong, or they erased extra info from her on purpose.

Sakura opened the headmaster's room before dieing. Atta girl.

Kyoko: "Only open this if I die". NOOOOOOOO. Don't do that Kyoko, that's a S-class death flag. Danmit.

So the bath has no cameras because of the fog. I was wondering about that. Well if I were the mastermind, I'd just seal the whole damn thing and avoid any risks. Unless they have some kind of rule where they have to make a perfect copy of what the school used to be. But that didn't stop them from shutting down the biolab, did it?

Monokuma is mad Makoto is asking him about keys and not about bear sex. If I wear Makoto I'd just ask about bear sex. Let's humor the guy. Distract him.

I'd totally buy Sakura's Revenge. Someone make a Kickstarter.

Kyoko's plan went so well that not even Monokuma knows where she is now. Cool.

Yeah it's either this or 1-2 for the best case so far, because 1-2 throws such a nasty curveball with the whole Byakuta/GJ thing. I think I maybe prefer 1-2, tbh.

But 1-4 was a fast paced case that somehow connected the entire living cast in one big puzzle, so it's cool.

There is never a way out of the locked room, until the detective figures it out.

Ok, this was a cool case. Probably the best one so far. I managed to see all the set ups coming, but suicide was unpredictable.

Now the plot is turning interesting, because I think those kids really mean it about dropping from the game. I mean, are they wrong? This game's chances of survival are pathetic, as all the previous cases have showed. It might be a better option to just try and break the game. The question is how.

WIll Byakuya really play ball, though? And GJ? Maybe they'll not.

"How can you know something I don't know?" Poor Byakuya.

HOLY SHIT, suicide? Wow

It seems like Byakuya's distress is just because he's an arrogant jerk and is mad that someone besides him solved the case. Amazing.

I guess there will be no execution, unless Monokuma is a huge dick. And that explains how this game seems to have too many chapters.

So Sakura killed hrself to stop the murders and save her dojo. Such an awesome character. You'll be missed, Sakura.

And Hina tried to set everything on fire because she blamed the others for Sakura's death. Poor Hina. That's way more tragic than anything I could have predicted.

REVOLUTION! We will no longer play your shitty game. I'm still doubting this will work, but those kids have guts, man. Wonder what Monokuma will do now.

Noooooo Alter Ego! Yep, that plan was totally not going to work. Damn, Monokuma, you're a dick.

Kyokoads me to what looked like a scouting mission. Wonder what she learned from it. And we got a reveal of 16th student's name.

"I think the fact I don't know proves that I didn't kill her, thank you very much!". Love you, GJ.

Two bullet battles and now two hangmen's gambits? Uuuuuugh.

Hina confessed.

But still doesn't explain how the hell the room was locked. It's Byakuya, isn't it?

Byakuya's goose is being cooked and he can smell it. Sorry bro, but you're not a match for Kyoko. You may think you're smarter than all those losers, but she is a pro.

Hiro is lying about candy like an idiot. And now he's lying about seeing the dieing message. But the case is basically starting with him as the main suspect, so it's probably not him who did it.

Oooooh now this really feels like a Fourth Case. The defendant thinks he did it!

Poor Hiro tried to kill a super saiyan with blunt damage. Obviously that didn't work.

Toko: "Until two seconds ago, you were claiming you killed her!". lol true.

Omg Toko totally made the second hit to the head, didn't she? Except it didn't work because it's fucking Sakura. Everybody tried to kill her, but only one was smart enough to use poison. Hina or Byakuya? I want to believe it's Hina so Byakuya gets saved for the end of the game, but maybe he just decided to do it now.

My guess is that the footprints will point to the killer. Except that's the sloppiest thing ever so it will be a set up. Maybe Hina sets Byakuya up, and her claim that one of the three did it will actually have meaning after all.

Investigation time.

Ok, the murder weapon is obviously poison, and in 90% sure it's the candy Hina gave to Sakura. Question is if Hina herself poisoned it or someone else.

Or the protein drink, I guess. But it is on the glass shards of the window rather than under them, which suggests it was added recently. Misdirection?

Hiro is hiding a candy wrap.

...

Is it really Hiro this time around? He seems too dumb to make a plan like this, but it's hilarious for him to be set up two consecutive cases.

Poisonous looking vial of poison broken on the floor spilling poison everywhere. If they wanted us to think it wasn't done with poison, that's a very sloppy job.

Dieing message about Toko. This is the 4th case and the 3rd one with a dieing message. At this point I'm halfway expecting them to double subvert it and have Toko be the killer cuz why not.

Ok so it's one of Toko, Hiro or Hina. My money is on Hina. There isn't much more to her character after Sakura goes down, I feel.

Monokuma now speaks emoticons. They are called emoticons, not emojis, and XD is one of them. We are back in 2005.

He also speaks dancing kirbies. Somehow.

swordz9 posted...

I play on Easy because the mini-games are basically all trash in the series. No regrets

I didn't know how good I had with Magatama and Perception until I lost them.

I'm kind of sucking with skills too. They come very slowly. I guess the only way of maxing them out is replaying chapters?

If so I think I pass.

So I did see the death flag on Sakura, but I guess I ignored it because I wanted the victim to be unpredictable. Meh.

RIP Sakura. You were very badass.

It's GJ, stabbing the hell out of Hina. You guys are all worried about Sakura and forget there is a fucking serial killer living among you.

Sakura just went berserk. I now fear for GJ's life.

Alter Ego wants to connect to the network, risking his life. Others are worried, but thinking about it, is there something better for him to do? He's a program stuck in a computer, in a building where everyone who knows him is probably going to die, and the only person who really undderstood him is already dead. I'd say let the thing go down in flames if it wants to, maybe it will end up saving the day (or turn into an evil AI, but that would be awesome too).

Chihiro had an useless death, but he created the best version of himself before going down.

Oof. Sakura is dead. So much for fighting the Mastermind.

Hina keeps repeating it's one of Hiro, Byakuya or Toko. That makes me want to suspect Hina again.

And it's a locked room murder? Nice. This case looks promising.

Free time. I talk with Hina and Hiro again. Not much here. Random banter, skill points, yada yada. Someone die already.

Monokuma dumps Sakura's spy status, just like that. Now that's a nice possible motive: betrayal. I'm guessing the only reason he even recruited her was to throw her under the bus at some point.

Sakura leaves to fight the Mastermind. Then night time announcement. Monokuma appears on the screen and I'm halfway expecting Sakura to show up in the screen and tear the bear apart with her teeth. I can only dream.

Free time. Against my expectations, the game lets me hang out with Sakura. Gonna do that since it doesn't seem she isn't making though this chapter alive. I give her boxing gloves and she likes it... but no new skill/points/report entry? Meh.

The ones left are Kyoko (who probably still won't talk), Toko (not interested, bring GJ) and Byakua. So let's go with the later. Turns out he's a top tier stock trader, so the kid isn't just inherited money.

Someone screaming. Body time?

Okay, time to guess the next victim. Kyoko is obviously out for now. Byakuya is killer material, he's not going down as a death fodder (unless it's like the last chapter). I had this theory that one of Hina or Sakura was going to kill each other, but after the traitor reveal, I think they already had their drama moment. Toko needs to be dealt with and she's been hinting at a troublesome family so maybe this could be her moment of limelight, but I would still like to see GJ make an actual kill. Hiro being still alive goes against all common sense. He's an idiot and kind of boring, so maybe the game finally decides to off him now that he's had his moment as a main suspect in the last case.

Hiro feels like the most obvious. Either him or Toko. But let's go with him.

DeepsPraw posted...

ZeldaTPLink posted...

google.

nooo don't ever do this. And stay the hell away from wikis as well

Fair point lol

Hiro's burger was abducted by aliens. That clearly means it had pork in the mix! Huh... okay.

4th floor of the school unlocked. But for some reason the game is adamant about blocking the 2nd floor of the living area. Strange.

There is a locked room named Data Center, and the room behind it shows a Monokuma face on the map. This is totally where the Mastermind is, isn't it?

Another mysterious photo from the past. By the way, last session I wanted to write about flashback bullets and I had forgotten what they were called, so I typed "danganronpa memory bullets" on google. The results showed a bunch of pages relating to what looked like plot critical stuff. I guess because of the word "memory". There really is a memory erasing plot, isn't it?

I want to tell Kyoko about Sakura, but the PLOT demands that I don't. Now she's mad at me. It's not my fault, it's this stupid game! Geez.

"Breaking down a locked door is now prohibited" Crap. Looks like we'll have to find a Small Key first.

Deadly poisons will be provided to you for a healthy visual novel environment.

AI finished the research, but didn't reveal that much, except there was a "Tragedy", and the headmaster is involved with current events. Calling it now: the headmaster is Kyoko's father.

Toko just had an orgasm in the middle of the dining hall. She is somehow being a serious match to her GJ self in the competition for who is the weirdest. Girl's got issues. Wonder if she'll ever get a flashback or something.