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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Darmik posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter

It only does that if the developers put that in for you.

I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside.

It's a tradeoff alright, but not one that I regret buying the system for.

Also older games receive a frame rate boost. All the Battlefield games now can pretty much do 64 players at 60 FPS with no hiccups, that's a good tradeoff.

Sure. But then the downside is you're playing 720p on a system that could do more. Unfortunately that's the big downside of these mid-gen consoles.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

All I know is that my Xbox One X costs $500 and it can do 4K and 60 FPS and it's backwards compatible with all the games in recent memory that matter

It only does that if the developers put that in for you.

I can't play Outer Wilds or Void Bastards in 4k/60fps because they didn't enhance it. That's the downside.
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I think it's complicated to measure if PC or console gaming is cheaper. It depends on the person and what they're looking for really. If a guy just wants COD and Madden every year a console will probably be cheaper for them. Buying an Xbox One with Game Pass is a good bargain too.

I think PC gaming has far more opportunities to be thrifty though. If you have enough self control you could easily live off the giveaways and games that are dirt cheap without any subscriptions. If you have some leftover accessories and parts from before you can cut corners too.

There's a lot of factors.

EDIT: Oh look. The little guy went on a rant and argued against things I never said. Poor fella must have been upset over an old topic or something.
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I Like Toast posted...

and you responded by showcasing how you bought, just a video card, that cost more than a console today.

Which didn't involve $3,000 or constant tinkering.

Try to keep up.
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I Like Toast posted...

Darmik posted...

I got my 1070 PC back in 2016 and haven't touched it since. I don't bother with any of that overclocking stuff either.

That's why PC gaming is great. You can do what you want.

you act like 3 years is a long time or that 1070, which still today cost more than a console today, is cheap. You're quite literally proving his point. But that's your gimmick. Being ignorantly wrong in all things.

His point was that PC gamers spent $3,000 and that they constantly tinker. I never said anything about my PC being cheaper than consoles.

Stay miserable and needlessly aggressive over nothing champ.
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I live in Australia which is one expensive ass country and even we're having some great deals on prebuilt PC's right now.

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/461319

$599-$1,200 depending on what you're looking for and that's AUD. I'm sure building your own and being in the US would make it even cheaper.

I'm sure there's plenty of people selling their 1060/1070/1080 cards right now too. I think a 1070 will likely play next gen games fine.
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pinky0926 posted...

I acknowledged that in post #90. Again, I'm talking about user behaviour, not hardware performance. PC gamer doesn't rest on his laurels like PS4 guy does. He constantly upgrades and improves his machine to eek out more performance.

Also stop throwing up buzzwords. We're having a discussion, I'm not concern trolling anything.

I've already posted Steam hardware stats that points to the contrary.
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It's a weird time to look at PC's at the moment.

I'd say one around $400 would be great for the generation and looking at least $800 would set you up to chew through the next generation. It really depends what you want.
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pinky0926 posted...

How does that look factored into a complete build though? PC parts picker "entry gaming builds" rarely drop below $450.

I'm not sure what the current builds are but you could always compare them to the Steam hardware survey if you wanted to. Those numbers are what people are actually using on Steam right now. Most stuff is mid range.

Personally I think now is the time to at least get a mid-range PC so you're covered for next gen. There's gonna be a bump when that hits. If you go for at least that I'd say you'd be set. Or wait a few years to get a cheapo one.
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Blue_Inigo posted...

Such is the nature of the market. Some things sell, some things dont. Still, a single player game without microtransactions can sell gangbusters

It can but it needs to be long and broadly appealing. Which does limit with a AAA game can be.

But that doesn't mean microtransactions are a solution. They aren't.
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pinky0926 posted...

Meganekko posted...

pinky0926 posted...

and most cost effective

A good PC will outlast several console gens while costing less

It could but I dont think that is what most PC gamers do. PC enthusiasts want the next GPu, more RAM, and then inevitably a new MOBO and CPU to go with...hell better get a new tower because the old one looks pretty dull. And theres a new resolution factor for monitors now. Theres always another thing.

I say this as a PC gamer btw. It is like literally every hobby I've ever got into. Brewing beer, cycling, running, making bread, reading books. Every single one of these had people telling you about all the money you save while you're throwing hundreds of dollars into a bottomless pit of enthusiasm.

I was convinced it would save me money and really it's just an excuse to spend more money.

It's a hobby.

Sorry mate but you're basing this on certain niches in the community instead of what people actually do. These niches exist everywhere but they don't speak for the average user.

Last month the most popular graphics card was the 1060. The lower mid-range card from around 2016-2017. 62% still game on a 1080p resolution.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

The best graphics card takes up around 1% of the Steam userbase.
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PokemonYoutube posted...

EffectAndCause posted...

What is the counter to the argument As production values, size and scope have increased, games have become vastly more expensive to make while the retail price has remained at the same $50-$60 bucks for decades, so they need to recoup those expenses somehow.

God of War

Incredible production values, size and scope. Zero paid DLC. Sold 10 million units. Make a great game that isn't some half-assed attempt to nickle-and-dime the consumer with a neverending gameplay loop based on "loot" and people WILL buy it.

I wish. So many great games have flopped this generation.
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pinky0926 posted...

Sure, that's why you spent $3000 and countless hours optimising your "rig".

Only if you want to do that.

I got my 1070 PC back in 2016 and haven't touched it since. I don't bother with any of that overclocking stuff either.

That's why PC gaming is great. You can do what you want.
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PC gaming can be whatever you want it to be. A console cannot.

That's why a gaming PC will always have a 'point'
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I think the biggest reason this excuse doesn't really work is that it doesn't stop a game from flopping. Look at Anthem. Microtransactions won't save that game.

At most it should be used to keep supporting games like Rainbow Six Siege and Overwatch years after release. It makes sense then. But for stuff like Shadow of War they're just trying to make more money.

I actually don't have an issue with GTAV either. GTA Online has all of the microtransaction stuff and still gets content but the single player game remains its own thing that's overall traditional.
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Strider102 posted...

They could always raise game prices to $70-80 and things that would be DLC get included. Plus things patches fix could be already added in.

Ubisoft does that right? I did that with Hitman 2.

Then the risk you're taking is that you're buying content you know nothing about. But personally I'm fine with this if it's a great game from a developer I trust.
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Don't make a Games as a Service title.

Or if people don't want those things they shouldn't buy Games as a Service titles.
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Some more Xbox rumors from a Microsoft Insider

On the hardware side, I expect Microsoft to start to peel back the layers on the secrecy around their next generation consoles, Anaconda and Lockhart. For those who are hoping to see a list of raw specs, I dont think thats on the agenda quite yet. Instead, look for the company to provide performance multipliers for the hardware; I have heard that Lockhart and Anaconda are targeting at least a 4x performance gain for the high-end (Anaconda) and 2x for the lower end hardware(Lockhart).

Further, the company will likely highlight features of the new platform such as using solid-state drives, Navi graphics, Zen 2, backwards compatibility and other components of the AMD platform. Also, expect to hear about how these new consoles can take existing Xbox One X games and enhance the graphics and gameplay experience. By holding the explicit specs back, this allows the company to talk about the underlying features of the console without playing all their cards for the upcoming devices

Of that, I expect titles like Gears of War 5 (codenamed Halifax) will have a strong presence, and we will also see items like new DLC for State of Decay 2, Forza Horizon 4 Expansion 2, Halo Infinite trailer and gameplay, Age of Empires info, Fable details may be tossed in as well; it looks like there will be at least 3 new IPs that we havent seen previously.

For Halo Infinite, this will be the first real showing of the next generation game. Microsoft will be running the demos from a PC with an Xbox controller as they dont want the first impression of the new game to be running on the now dated Xbox One hardware.

In addition to Microsoft having a solid first-party presence, sources at the company are saying that this is among the strongest showings from third-party companies in its E3 history.

But the darling of the event will be the companys xCloud service. Microsoft has been talking about this service for about a year and at E3, we will get a new look at the offering. While I dont think Microsoft will share the raw performance figures of xCloud, I have heard that it does best Googles previously announced 10.7 teraflops.

Expect to see new demos of the service and I know at one point, they were looking to have a demo from a location outside the venue. Meaning, a demo that shows someone using xCloud at home but I have not heard if this scenario made the final cut.

As Microsoft announced last week, GamePass for the PC will be talked about in much greater detail. I noted last week that the company was working on a new PC application for the service code-named Garrison and WalkingCat has found evidence of its existence. Supporting my post, Microsoft is also rebranding today the Xbox PC app to Xbox Console Companion, clearing the way for the new app to arrive in the very near future.

In addition, I still believe that Game Pass for the PC will be included in Game Pass Ultimate and evidence supporting my original post has surfaced as well.

https://www.thurrott.com/xbox/207904/microsofts-aims-to-set-the-bar-high-at-e3

Youngster_Joey_ posted...

Isn't this super old news?

A lot of this stuff is. But E3 is often a time when it's announced.
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SuperShake666 posted...

Darmik posted...

Anyone who calls David Jaffe an SJW doesn't know David Jaffe.

When did I say that? I was referring to people whining about the idea that Kratos is bi. It's well established that units in ancient Greece would have sex with each other to promote bonding and troop morale.

By being a Spartan, it was obvious to me that he'd be bi.

I was just adding to your comment
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SuperShake666 posted...

Anyone who calls this some SJW nonsense clearly doesn't know anything about Spartans.

Anyone who calls David Jaffe an SJW doesn't know David Jaffe.
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I don't think Kratos loved any men. He just fucked them because he was the boss.
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Oh, and one more thing: not to get all JK Rowling but when I was working on the origins of Kratos for the first games I knew he was a raging bi-sexual until he settled down with his wife. So Kratos is officially bi. Oh and the Oracle from GOW1? Lesbian, straight up! Boom!

https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/1135753779070943232?s=19
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Phoenixeater posted...

The girl in those photos came out and said that ANN article was full of lies.

No she didn't.

There were other photos in the article that were used as examples that were removed.
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$200 is expensive for a stand as well.

What do you get for that $800 difference?
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PS5 will probably come out late 2020.
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I don't know. I haven't looked into it. It seems like a rather basic function for a monitor so I'm not sure why it would be $1,000.

But again this topic is comparing the price of a gaming PC to the stand. Not the computer.
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008Zulu posted...

Developers are always going to be at the mercy of consoles, specifically their older hardware.

Sure but this isn't a case of that. They have the option to use the Xbox One X to raise the resolution, general IQ or framerate but they're not always taking advantage of that.

It's more similar to those PC ports that are locked to console settings.

Of course the Xbox One X version doesn't get pushed to its limit because the game needs to take the base console into account but that's not what I'm talking about.

It would be neat if Microsoft let users to increase the resolution in a menu somewhere if the developers haven't done anything but I guess that's not what consoles are.
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Oh yeah I should also mention the Switch model rumor.

Apparently there will be two new models. A lite/cheaper model and a Pro model. Apparently the Pro got delayed so I wouldn't expect that one. The lite version could very well be announced though.

But I think Nintendo usually announce these things randomly.
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gnomefromnome posted...

Darmik posted...

gnomefromnome posted...

You can but most 'PC' builders will budget the hell out for the components, and say `my $600 PC works just as great as your $1000 rig `.

The $1,000 is for a stand.

Is the stand required? Is a case for your cellphone required?

I haven't looked into it but generally you can get any case you want for a phone.

Is that the same case for the stand?
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Can anyone legit justify the stand or have they finally gone too far?
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gnomefromnome posted...

You can but most 'PC' builders will budget the hell out for the components, and say `my $600 PC works just as great as your $1000 rig `.

The $1,000 is for a stand.
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yutterh posted...

Even without tgr hdr and 4k graphics it will play games better and give you a higher/solid fps.

It will only go as high as the max framerate. So if a game caps at 30fps it won't go higher.

Like it's stupid to be locked into playing a 720p/30fps game on the Xbox One X but that's how it is. I thought it only happened to older games but it can still happen which sucks.
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Even now games don't actually need to be enhanced for it.

Outer Wilds and Void Bastards are both major games releasing on Game Pass recently and neither of them are enhanced. So you're basically playing games designed for the base console anyway.

Being at the mercy of developers is always going to be an issue for consoles. Even if it's a premium model.
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Fable rumor coming in hot;
https://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/bwbieq/new_fable_possibly_leaked/?sort=confidence

First/Third Person
In Depth character creator
Completely Open
No guns
Can ignore main quest and never become a hero
Players can build towns, ties into main quest heavily if you get the bad ending and fail
Multiplayer
Unreal Engine

Story/world details (using spoiler tag as it deals with story details):
Albion and Aurora are gone. "Lands reduced to fables." The Spire was rebuilt and used by a mad king to wish that an asteroid would strike the planet. He also wished it would happen again in the far future. Eons later and everything is new (medieval themed, new continents) and you have to stop the destruction of the planet again. Theresa and a Heroes Guild are preserved on another planet via a demon door. Time Travel heavily involved in play. Jack of Blades returns.

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The bus scene was great. Highlight of the movie. The twist of it was actually disappointing in comparison.

Bit of a weird movie. Almost like four different styles of horror within the one movie. Overall I liked it.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Darmik posted...

They're photos being taken with underage teenage girls. They are not appropriate in any circumstance.

They would get you fired anywhere else when dealing with young people.

They're presumed fans meeting a voice actor they presumably admire. The context is different. Next you'll tell me that him doing suggestive fan requested voice lines is in appropriate because he's not actually that character.

That's one of the major reasons it isn't appropriate dude. He's a public figure. They're young girls. It's not okay and it would get you fired.

How many other celebrities take photos like that with young girls?

Stop deflecting to other bullshit and just focus.
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Doe posted...

Oh thank the lord Joe Biden will have to drop out

He should but apparently creepy politicians is a thing Americans have decided to tolerate and defend.
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They're photos being taken with underage teenage girls. They are not appropriate in any circumstance.

They would get you fired anywhere else when dealing with young people.
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Irony posted...

No it won't

All big players manage to scoop up at least one exclusive from somewhere.

Could just be timed but it'll happen.
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You know it's going to happen. They're going to get at least one good game.

It's gonna make the Epic Games Store controversy look like nothing.
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The accusations of inappropriate behaviour from several people and the inappropriate photos with young girls (regardless of consent) should be more than enough for any company to fire him and to ban him from conventions. Which looks like the right decision to me.

The rest of this story is up to you to follow. I'm really not interested spending hours looking into a C-Grade voice actor getting defended by fans who are getting into wars on social media. That's just a waste of time. The stuff that happens in court is the only thing from here that matters. Which still won't be enough for any of his defenders anyway.
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He's not just hugging the girls in those pictures. It's incredibly inappropriate behaviour with young girls. A guy would get fired from Disneyland for doing it.
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Vyrulisse posted...

Fans just want Sam Fisher being Sam Fisher.

Fans want a proper stealth game. Chaos Theory has set a high bar.

I don't want it to be some Ubi open world shit even if Ironside came back. I'd rather it stay dead.

The problem is the actual legacy of Splinter Cell is pretty niche for a AAA game. Stealth games aren't popular anymore.
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Yves Guillemot said in an IGN Unlocked podcast that they struggle with making a new Splinter Cell because the fans are really demanding with what they want.

So basically I'm reading that as they want to make it into another Ubisoft style open world game but they're worried that will piss off the fans so they're umming and ahhing over it.

To be fair to them Blacklist did flop so I have no idea where else they could really go outside of just improving the formula they already have. But I dunno. I think Blacklist might have gotten overshadowed because the new consoles were coming up so I think they should at least give it another chance. Splinter Cell was successful when it was a tech showcase too so making it a next gen launch window game could be the booster shot it needs. There's also a lot of buzz over it in the last year or so. They've got to give it a proper chance.
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boxington posted...

I was hoping The Last of Us 2 would come out later this year, but I'll take whatever I can get.

I know that it's currently just a rumor, but it might be going that way.

My guess is that rumor started because people got it mixed up with Death Stranding being the major PlayStation release this year. Apparently they did aim for this year but they delayed that target to early next year.
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HagenEx posted...

That sucks. I wanted Obsidian to develop the new Fable. I think it would end up being amazing, I loved the first one, basically the game that made me buy an XBOX in the first place.

The open worlds in Forza Horizon are pretty amazing so I'm interested to see what they come up with. I'd prefer Obsidian to work on a new IP or a movie license or something personally. Outer Worlds looks great at least. I wonder if Microsoft will announce that it'll be a Gamepass game.
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Nova4554 posted...

"witcher 3 coming to switch"

you be trippin balls bro

I don't see how it could happen either and I'm not holding my breath but I'm pretty sure several retailers have leaked that at this point.

Maybe it's that Gwent RPG or something but it's incredibly weird how it keeps popping up.
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...

Darmik posted...

- Sam Fisher Splinter Cell goggles listed on Gamestop briefly before being removed (don't read into this IMO)

Didn't some dude flat out say he was working on a Splinter Cell game on twitter before removing it?

Or are you just saying it's not going to be at this years E3?

Yeah they said they were joking.

But pretty much all insiders seem to be saying it's not coming so I dunno.

Maybe it could be like their 'Watch Dogs' moment and it's for next gen?
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Take a lot of these with a pinch of salt!

Leaks
- Watch Dogs Legion: Play as any unique NPC in post-Brexit London
- Ubisoft Premium Pass
- Ubisoft game called Roller Champions. Some sort of roller derby game
- Sam Fisher Splinter Cell goggles listed on Gamestop briefly before being removed (don't read into this IMO)
- Gears 5 releasing September 10 2019 according to Taiwanese rating agency
- The Witcher 3 releasing on Switch according to some online retailers
- Next gen Harry Potter RPG gameplay trailer leaked last year (might be too early for E3)

Rumors
- Dragon Quest/Warrior fighter for Smash Bros DLC
- Playground Games working on Fable
- Ori and the Blind Forest and Super Lucky's Tale for Switch
- The Last of Us 2 releasing Feb-Mar 2020
- Ninja Theory will reveal a new multiplayer game
- George RR Martin is working with From Software on an open world game (he mentioned working with a Japanese developer in his blog recently)
- Metroid Prime HD Trilogy

Early announcements/teases
- The Avengers will be revealed at Square-Enix conference. Will be a 4 player coop game
- Shinji Mikami will be at E3
- The Simpsons writers will host a panel at the E3 Coliseum
- Doom Eternal has the big building advertisement
- Cyberpunk 2077 will be there
- Halo Infinite will be there
- InXile teasing they have something to show at the Xbox conference on Twitter

Did I miss anything?
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Antifar posted...

I'm picturing something akin to MGSV. You'll be building up your "legion" by recruiting NPCs, and taking control of some of them in some way.

Yeah that's what I'm picturing too. But they'll be given more personality.

I wonder how many different voices and personalities there are.
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