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EndOfDiscOne posted...

averagejoel posted...

EndOfDiscOne posted...

Return on investment

averagejoel posted...

elaborate on precisely what you mean by "better" and how you're measuring that.

Fiscal growth

is this a bot
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Return on investment

averagejoel posted...

elaborate on precisely what you mean by "better" and how you're measuring that.

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EndOfDiscOne posted...

Turning $1 into $2

this is not an elaboration
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EndOfDiscOne posted...

averagejoel posted...

Tryhaptaward posted...

Bill Gates can do far more with that money than the average dumbass

no duh -- that's because the average dumbass does not have that money to do things with

How did Microsoft grow so much? By keeping cash in the business and with Gatess leadership.

stifling or buying out the competition is the same as being good with money?

He is much better with money than most people are.

elaborate on precisely what you mean by "better" and how you're measuring that.
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emblem boy posted...

Is her plan really asking to take away 100 billion in tax though?

I get that it's a hyperbole statement, but like, still

I wish her plan was that radical
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Tryhaptaward posted...

Bill Gates can do far more with that money than the average dumbass

no duh -- that's because the average dumbass does not have that money to do things with
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pogo_rabid posted...

InfinityMonster posted...

Literal richest man on Earth currently.

Didn't watch the video or anything. Just wanted to say that

"I'm all for super-progressive tax systems," he said. "I've paid over $10 billion in taxes. I've paid more than anyone in taxes. If I had to pay $20 billion, it's fine.

"But when you say I should pay $100 billion, then I'm starting to do a little math about what I have left over," he added. "You really want the incentive system to be there without threatening that."

he would still have like 6 billion dollars left

also, it would take like 45 years for him to pay 100 billion in taxes
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awesome999 posted...

averagejoel posted...

awesome999 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

awesome999 posted...

Too big to fail in what sense? I think it matters

D for the most part

In the sense that the business is so vital and ingrained into the function of the government or society that its collapse would be disastrous

Still D

The morons at the top of the government will make sure that it will collapse. I trust lifelong businessmen to make better choices. Not that they don't make mistakes

Ideally, no business should ever reach that point

it's an inherent function of capitalism though

It's better to have more than 3-4 companies competing for the same industry so that none can really get THAT ahead and there's healthy competition that ultimately drives innovation

it would be, but that is not how capitalism works
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being part of the majority does not inherently provide a benefit

google "apartheid south africa" for some details
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awesome999 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

awesome999 posted...

Too big to fail in what sense? I think it matters

D for the most part

In the sense that the business is so vital and ingrained into the function of the government or society that its collapse would be disastrous

Still D

The morons at the top of the government will make sure that it will collapse. I trust lifelong businessmen to make better choices. Not that they don't make mistakes

Ideally, no business should ever reach that point

it's an inherent function of capitalism though
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man

imagine how amazing Amazon could be if it were nationalized
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CyricZ posted...

Then again I suppose anything's hazardous if it's coming at you at a high enough speed.

Wasn't really willing to demonstrate that, though.

air resistance plays a role.

some things, like individual feathers, physically can't fly at a speed that would make them hazardous.

some things are also too small or too soft (again, most feathers) to do serious harm purely from coming at you at a high speed
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Duncanwii posted...

Yes but an encounter with a antagonistic cop doesn't mean you get to judge the entire profession based on that one first impression.

that is not what is happening, and framing it as such is disingenuous.
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Duncanwii posted...

averagejoel posted...

you probably already know my thoughts on cops, and tc is pretty clearly trolling here. I don't think he's said a single thing that even merits a response

I really just think people should be judging others on a case by case basis. How is that trolling or controversial?

it completely ignores the fact that there are systemic issues in play, and that cops inherently have an antagonistic role in them
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Shablagoo posted...

Its not about the show despite some people taking it that way, its about out real-life justice system. I was curious what you 2 had to say about some of Duncs hot takes ITT.

you probably already know my thoughts on cops, and tc is pretty clearly trolling here. I don't think he's said a single thing that even merits a response
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Shablagoo posted...

@averagejoel
@Antifar

I have no opinion on Law and Order. I have never watched it
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seems like forever since I've seen an episode. that was one of my favourite shows growing up though, and I definitely remember "bleep"
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gunplagirl posted...

SolKarellen posted...

Stealth rock still feels like it was a huge mistake due to how it devalues any Pokmon with a rock weakness. RIP Charizard with the 4x rock weakness.

Yeah. And unlike spikes, it can't be avoided by anything based on type or ability unless that ability ignores all damage not directly from an attack.

Maybe if it was "can only hit 3 times before fading" or heck, "can only hit a Pokemon once per battle" then it wouldn't be so annoying.

lol singles
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Malfunction posted...

IloveJesus posted...

averagejoel posted...

this is a definition of cinema used by more serious movie people

No, this is a definition used by people who are like-minded fart sniffers. It isn't the generally accepted definition of the word and it probably never will be.
averagejoel posted...

this indicates to me that you didn't understand what he said

I don't particularly care what you think of my position, when I don't consider yours to be in any way tenable.

His definition of 'cinema' is ultimately a pretty minor point in the wider oped and to focus in on it so much suggests you either didn't read or didn't comprehend it.

lol that dude blocked me
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IloveJesus posted...

It addresses it just fine. He doesn't get to set the definitions.

he isn't. as was posted earlier:

Zithers posted...

Now we finally arrive at the subject of this rant, which is the state of cinema. First of all, is there a difference between cinema and movies? Yeah. The simplest way that I can describe it is that a movie is something you see, and cinema is something thats made. It has nothing to do with the captured medium, it doesnt have anything to do with where the screen is, if its in your bedroom, your iPad, it doesnt even really have to be a movie. It could be a commercial, it could be something on YouTube. Cinema is a specificity of vision. Its an approach in which everything matters. Its the polar opposite of generic or arbitrary and the result is as unique as a signature or a fingerprint. It isnt made by a committee, and it isnt made by a company, and it isnt made by the audience. It means that if this filmmaker didnt do it, it either wouldnt exist at all, or it wouldnt exist in anything like this form.

this is a definition of cinema used by more serious movie people. a lot of what Scorsese said was related to this.

I've enjoyed some of his films but he didn't create anything anywhere near as profound as he thinks he has.

irrelevant to the topic

I get not liking Marvel. All for that.

most of what he wrote was not about disliking marvel

However, his comments say more about his ego than they do about Marvel.

this indicates to me that you didn't understand what he said
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IloveJesus posted...

MKScorpion posted...

Jesus dude let it go...

I don't really care for Marvel movies all that much either and while I agree with a lot of what he said he doesn't get to decide what is or isn't cinema. People like that stuff. Not everything needs to be some artsy philosophical picture packed with high IQ subtext and metaphors lol

Seriously, I find a lot of those movies to be pretty generic crap but that doesn't make them not movies or even bad movies just because I think they're kind of bleh. Same applies to Scorsese. He isn't the god of cinema who gets to make the rules.

Very much agree with this.

this is addressing about 20% of what Scorsese said, and badly addressing it
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MedeaLysistrata posted...

averagejoel posted...

marx and engels definitely fucked at some point

are you saying people don't care about Hegel because he wasn't inventing commie sex moves?

no

I personally only care about hegel to the extent that his dialectical idealism was a necessary bouncing-off point for dialectical materialism
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marx and engels definitely fucked at some point
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Zithers posted...

ppl really into movies have a secondary definition of cinema. i'm not exactly sure how scorsese describes it - seems a bit wishy washy to me tbh, but i like what steven soderbergh said about it:

Now we finally arrive at the subject of this rant, which is the state of cinema. First of all, is there a difference between cinema and movies? Yeah. The simplest way that I can describe it is that a movie is something you see, and cinema is something thats made. It has nothing to do with the captured medium, it doesnt have anything to do with where the screen is, if its in your bedroom, your iPad, it doesnt even really have to be a movie. It could be a commercial, it could be something on YouTube. Cinema is a specificity of vision. Its an approach in which everything matters. Its the polar opposite of generic or arbitrary and the result is as unique as a signature or a fingerprint. It isnt made by a committee, and it isnt made by a company, and it isnt made by the audience. It means that if this filmmaker didnt do it, it either wouldnt exist at all, or it wouldnt exist in anything like this form.

they're generic movies, and disney has their directors by the balls, so using that definition they're probably not cinema.

I do not care about whether or not the marvel movies are cinema.

but scorsese has a lot of good points about a lot of things. as I said:

averagejoel posted...

in five years it will likely require less effort on my part to watch any of four different spiderman franchises than any movie made before 1980

and that is something I do care about
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in five years it will likely require less effort on my part to watch any of four different spiderman franchises than any movie made before 1980
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it has more to do with White being assumed to be a neutral position -- a sort of default -- than anything else
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Annihilated posted...

"Incarceration rates for black people are too high because police are racist!"

*shows statistics proving otherwise*

"So what, who cares about statistics anyway? Statistics are racist!"

Summary of TC.

taken out of context, statistics can indeed be used to perpetuate racism.

if you control for poverty, the rates of committing crimes are not significantly different across races. how many people who bring up that first statistic conveniently omit this fact?
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you should summarize articles when they get posted
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I got them cut out before they had a chance to grow in
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FighterStreet2 posted...

DrizztLink posted...

FighterStreet2 posted...

nevershine posted...

DrizztLink posted...

Assume he means they're there but haven't actually erupted.

This

so your answer is yes. not no

If you feel like getting all UnfairRepresent over idiotic semantics, sure.

You do you.

it's not semantics. it literally defines how you answer the poll lol

the poll question is "did you grow" wisdom teeth. if they haven't grown in yet, then the answer to that question, out of the choices you gave, is no.
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ffmasterjose posted...

The girl is an absolute 10/10 and she can sing? Goddamn. OP af

she's one of the only singers I'm aware of who can sing out of tune while sitting at a piano. that takes real talent
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Bandit_Keith posted...

https://i.imgur.com/JlIktnn.png

thank you for your input
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In the early 1990s, neo-Nazi groups began staging rallies there to remember what they called "the bombing Holocaust", when the city was bombed by British and American forces in 1945, Mr Arzheimer said. These groups went on to become active in surrounding areas and in southern Saxony.

The state of Saxony has also long been a stronghold of the far-right National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD) and later the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party.

In state elections in September, support for the AfD surged , up 17.8% from 2014 to finish on 27.5%.

Dresden is also where the anti-Islam Pegida (Patriotic Europeans against the Islamisation of the West) movement began in 2014, and where it continues to hold rallies.

Pegida supporters say people need to "wake up" to the threat of Islamist extremists. They want Germany to curb immigration and accuse the authorities of failing to enforce existing laws.

The movement has spurred large counter-rallies in the city.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-europe-50266955
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A city in eastern Germany has declared a "Nazi emergency", saying it has a serious problem with the far-right.

Dresden, the capital of Saxony, has long been viewed as a bastion of the far-right and is the birthplace of the anti-Islam Pegida movement.

Councillors in the city - a contender for the 2025 European Capital of Culture - have now approved a resolution saying more needs to be done to tackle the issue.

But opponents say it goes too far.

What is a 'Nazi emergency'?

"'Nazinotstand' means - similar to the climate emergency - that we have a serious problem. The open democratic society is threatened," local councillor Max Aschenbach, who tabled the motion, told the BBC.

Mr Aschenbach, from left-leaning satirical political party Die Partei, said he believed it was necessary to take action because politicians were not doing enough to "position themselves clearly" against the far-right.

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"The request was an attempt to change that. I also wanted to know what kind of people I'm sitting with in the city council of Dresden," he said.

The resolution acknowledges that "right-wing extremist attitudes and actions... are occurring with increasing frequency" and calls on the city to help victims of far-right violence, protect minorities and strengthen democracy.

Mr Aschenbach said adopting the motion showed the city council's commitment to fostering "a free, liberal, democratic society that protects minorities and resolutely opposes Nazis."

How was a 'Nazi emergency' declared?

Mr Aschenbach's resolution was put to a vote by Dresden's city council on Wednesday night and approved by 39 votes to 29, according to local media reports.

Germany's governing Christian Democrats (CDU) were among those to reject the resolution.

"From our point of view, this was primarily an intended provocation," Jan Donhauser, chairman of the CDU City Council Group, told the BBC.

"'State of emergency' means the collapse or a serious threat to public order. That is not given rudimentarily. Furthermore, the focus on 'right-wing extremism' does not do justice to what we need. We are the guardians of the liberal-democratic basic order and no violence, no matter from which extremist side it comes, is compatible with it," he said.

Mr Donhauser added that the "vast majority" of Dresdeners were "neither right-wing extremists nor anti-democratic".

Mr Aschenbach said the city was not obliged to take any action following the adoption of his resolution, but that "theoretically, existing measures should be given a higher priority and future decisions should follow this."

While opposing the resolution, the CDU said it hopes to "strengthen the institutions that are best suited to combating politically motivated violence."

Kai Arzheimer, a German politics professor who has written extensively on far-right extremism, said the resolution's main impact was symbolic, but that it could mean that more money would be allocated to programmes combating extremism in the future.

"I don't think that any other German city has declared a 'Nazi emergency'. Resolutions against right-wing extremism are not so uncommon, however," he said.

What is Dresden's connection to the far-right?

Dresden has long been known for its links to the far right.

(continued in next post)
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Economic Left/Right: -10.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.64

the questions aren't good. among other things, they perpetuate the false idea that social politics are separable from economic politics
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Webmaster4531 posted...

coh posted...

Whats the difference Between libertarian left and right

I guess anarcho capitalism is libertarian right and hybrid capitalism with regulations is libertarian left.

correct about the first part, not about the second.

lib left would be anarcho communism
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

averagejoel posted...

I don't care enough about economics to have a basic understanding of it

averagejoel posted...

here's why price controls are good based on my knowledge of economics,

every averagejoel post in a nutshell

have you considered engaging with the ideas I presented instead of dismissing them
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statistically speaking, convenience store workers are more likely to be injured than cops while on the job
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Duncanwii posted...

averagejoel posted...

life orb or toxic orb are generally best for breloom

Great. But those are meta items. And I specifically said not to suggest those.

then just use whatever you want. lol
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life orb or toxic orb are generally best for breloom
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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Landlords who are looking for new properties will avoid areas with rent control, causing a housing shortage in that city.
Landlords who can build housing that doesn't fall under rent regulation (like luxury apartments) will do so, further reducing the supply of middle and lower-income housing.
Landlords who do rent a rent-controlled housing unit will stop putting money into renovations, as they have no incentive to do so. This creates slums.

[many citations fucking needed]

I hate to break this to you, but:
1. landlords typically aren't the ones building housing units
2. the obvious solution is to rent control all property and put heavier restrictions on what landlords can do.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Rent control is universally condemned by both left and right-wing economists.

I'm not sure that this is true, and I also don't particularly care.

economics is a deeply flawed field, and economists have many opinions that they don't recognize as such. it's very lacking in self-awareness
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I will never not think it's funny that the kid Donald Trump named after himself is noticeably his least favourite
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Crono99 posted...

Luck, hard work, intelligence

You need 2 out of 3

or 1 out of 3 if the one thing is luck
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Balrog0 posted...

Does that really count as passing the bechdel test when the entire skit is about how she looks a girlfriend of 'rap guys'?

they mention "rap guys" but the conversation is still unquestionably about the woman's butt
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AlisLandale posted...

coh posted...

averagejoel posted...

it will never not be funny to me that "becky! look at her butt!" passes the bechdel test when so many hollywood movies don't

Does anyone actually take that test seriously?

From what I remember, the test isnt meant to be an individual indicator of quality, but a lithmus test to observe trends in storytelling.

Of course, the original test came from a feminist comic where the character refused to watch any movie that failed to meet those criteria lol.

you remember correctly.

a movie isn't "bad" just because it doesn't pass the bechdel test, and it doesn't become "good" just for passing it.

it's just interesting to see how many movies fail to meet such simple criteria when a 20-second skit at the start of a rap song does
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