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the funniest VC match had to be CATS/Ansem

edit: in regards to Ridley/Diablo, it was only notable because of how dire the villains contest was. that division was the only real debate thanks to Bowser/Seph/Ganon dominating the other divisions. Diablo/Ridley/Kefka/Bison determined the winner of that contest but had absolutely no relevance after we finished that division.

edit 2: despite that, I have pretty fond memories of the villain contest. I might rank it over a couple of mainline contests, maybe 2008 or the series contest.
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Ill be interested to see your guys lists after Im done
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I think Magus/Knuckles is pretty high. I just think the world of the Starcraft run.
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George Romero AIM interview is my new favorite thing
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Im pretty sure I had Undertale in every match other than the first as well.

edit: this exercise makes me want to make a spreadsheet with crew picks so its easy to look this stuff up. at this point I cant remember who I picked in the 2018 contest.
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whoops. Cloud/Sonic! cant correct it now
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oh, thats interesting. I still treat that as being kinda coincidental though. I dont think that match itself inspired a comic, but I could be wrong!
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yeah but its pac man and scorpion. if I was picking one of those itd definitely be Lara/Crono (I took the Snake match instead)
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thats his point in relation to Mario and Link
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is it just Scorpion going so far? I always saw that as more of a seeding accident than anything. what am I missing?
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interesting picks. there are some I hadnt even considered and others that I think are super obvious that arent there.

I have a busy day today so I probably wont get to any writeups until later this evening.
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just looked. thats a good toon link pic and a KH one for Cloud. ehh, not enough to turn the match.
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did we? how do I not remember that? huh, I would think that would be blamed more often. then again, Cloud looked clearly better in 03.
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I bet that Snake result doesnt happen if it were the first semifinal instead of the second. being right on top of each other really helped.
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yeah, I fixed it just before you posted
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Link versus Cloud posted...

transience posted...

ha, I just noticed that I skipped #56. how fitting is it that it was this one?

56.
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I thought you purposefully skipped 56 because you had two matches (both Mario vs Samus this year) tied for 55.

oh, nah. I would sooner pick one (the first) than put two essentially identical matches on there.
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on the site, Elfboy. I might prefer SMK too.
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yeah, im not worried about the scores, just what the consensus was. if youve just got a spreadsheet or whatever I can work from that. thanks!
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I just wanted to see the Draven results and where people were after the Chie match. I guess the Vivi one too. (list spoilers!)
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hey TRE or somebody that would know - can someone point to oracle results of the 2013 contest?
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I didnt even glance at the rivalry rumble when making this list. even BYIG was better than that
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cant have a good topic without some top 10 hype.

Mario/Samus is absolutely worthy of being listed alongside those. dont forget about spring 2004 either. (and again, Im not trying to list the best matches, just the most important ones)
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Im looking forward to being called objectively wrong in a few days!
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Lopen posted...

Also I'd probably put Mario/Link 1 a bit higher

I mean there were definitely reasons to think Link would be stronger on this site. Zelda being a kinda pseudo RPG that appeals to the kind of people seeking FAQs being chief among them. But that match is the first time that had you thinking "yeah this isn't even a debate." Anyone who remembers that result has a huge advantage in contests going forward since intuitively Mario's at least in the discussion to win.

Im not really sure what it offered other than to (maybe incorrectly) compare both sides of the bracket in 2003, and not really after that. 2002s results more or less stopped being taken seriously by like 2004?, with the exception of big untainted matches like Seph/Mega, Crono/Snake, etc.
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a DS boost

I dunno, Ganon looked pretty good.
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2005 has a lot of great matchups just outside of the top tier. its certainly got the most mentions so far. I might rank contests after the fact here but you can probably get a sense of my preferences as we move through this list.
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Kefka/Vercetti is this weird contest history footnote that felt pretty big at the time but I cant say that it was really influential after the fact. I ended up leaving it off.
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I kinda hope it is unless its a game contest. well need 3 years for enough to shake up after so much exposure to our top 20.
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good show, gentlemen. until next time!
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Dante/Terra *just* missed the list
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yeah, my bracket was the top 6 + FF6, SM64, FFX and MGS I think. SM64 hurt but I didnt have any awful picks.
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Im not opposed to your FF7 takes. I just think their expectations are fundamentally lower than in the past where FF7 was a king.

I dunno about Tifa being a star - she basically lost to MMX and Mewtwo wasnt great, same as Charizard.
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thanks for bringing that drivel here! (i almost offered my thoughts but then someone might respond to it)
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im sure it would generate debate. based on your comment, I feel like my list might be totally different than yours.
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Im considering doing a contest project. should i:

1. rank contests with writeups
2. rank the top xx most important matches in contest history (not best - thats boring)
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I bet seeing that a match was 7 matches away, but is actually in 1-2 days, is a little weird. the format can be tough to keep up with. ive written up the wrong match before and then had to double check to see I did the right ones. I wrote up Cloud/Mario instead of Link/Zelda and ended up throwing that writeup out.

Im glad this contest is over that last week was tedious with the rematches and trying to stay tuned in.
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well, there it goes. until next time
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he did the same in 2002
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Im holding off on writing this one until I feel like its clear who Zelda is facing but looks like that wont happen!
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41 on Mario isnt any better than Crono/Mega based on this result. theres still time to move, but yeah. maybe Sonic is off. its hard to say whats what with Zelda.
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so my assumpton before this match was that the top 10 looked something like this

Link

Zelda
Mario
Samus

Cloud
Snake

Mega Man
Crono
Sephiroth
Sonic

with each tier being more or less equal to each other. Im thinking the numbers more or less show this with the possible exception of Snake?
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eh, maybe theres a chance here. I doubt it but maybe.
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you think Crono beats Sephiroth handily? I think that implies like a doubling on Ryu?
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this should be the biggest percentage shift update in contest history
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Im still yet to read that topic this year.

what do people expect in the last 45 minutes here? 16 years of contest history has taught me never to pick against Mario in situations like this.
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it says a lot that were witnessing a monster match, maybe the biggest runback the contest has ever seen, and were talking about other contests to talk it down.
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theres not much left to cheer for this contest. I guess Cloud?
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what the heck is this
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its because mega is the only dude worse in europe than crono

Im really not seeing the problem with Sonic getting around 40% on Samus.
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looks like Crono will. Id rather have Crono here for sure
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