Lurker > Mr Lasastryke

scarletspeed7 posted...

I'm willing to eat defeat on that one. It's wrong of me to call you that, and I apologize for it. I don't honestly remember the circumstances that surrounded it, but it sounds like something I might have done in the heat of anger, and it's unacceptable.

i genuinely appreciate that. the REAL thing that's "wrong with this board" is that nobody ever wants to admit defeat on anything or apologize for anything, so it's quite nice to see an example of the opposite of that for once.

as for the rest of your post, i'm not going to respond to your character assassination of me. i'm not denying that you guys put a lot of time and effort into this project. but yeah, clearly this topic isn't for me, so i'll leave you to it.
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Also no I didn't?

also yes you did?

do i really need to quote posts you made years ago on this topic?
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scarletspeed7 posted...

In what world do you think it's remotely constructive to enter a topic where people are sharing their opinions in an open way to be social and perhaps even to have their minds changed in thoughtful discussion and simply put the opinions on blast?

Even if I agreed that 2001 should be higher on the list, the way you handle yourself is puerile, childish behavior representative of someone who clearly can't think critically and has no interest in possibly developing an understanding of an alternative point of view. You are representative of everything that is wrong with this board.

wow, you can sure extrapolate a lot of knowledge about me from a few short posts.

also, this is an interesting post coming from someone who called me a "middle-aged nobody."
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Did you read any of the write-ups?

i'm not interested in the writeups of a bunch of people who (collectively, not individually) think fucking men in black should be above 2001.
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Nobody supporting Tifa has ever said "I despise rallies as a concept. On principle, I hate them."

uh yeah, extha has absolutely said (variations of) this a gazillion times.

wtf?
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wooooooooooow.

ok time to stop taking this topic seriously.
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sing i'm too sexy.

also, most people who go up there can't sing so don't worry about that.
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ZeldaTPLink posted...

I think there is a real distinction to be made between large rallies and small ones.

Most of us seem to be okay with rallies as long as they don't actually have the power of changing the outcome of matches between characters with a large strength difference between them.

Changing X vs Tifa is fine because at the end of the day, they are in the same level and both deserved to win. The problem would be if Tifa suddenly started posing a threat to Link or Mario.

this is fair. but this is NOT the way a lot of regulars were talking about rallies before. i was here for both draven and undertale and people were CONSTANTLY going "RALLIES SUCK ASS THEY'VE RUINED OUR CONTESTS" etc. - extha moreso than anyone else during undertale. this "oh, we were never anti-rallies!" thing is total revisionist history.
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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

This board has never been anti-rallies.

you can't seriously think this if you saw all the shit people were saying about rallies during the draven and undertale eras.

gotta agree with ulti (for once) that the backpedaling is fucking real in these topics. you must think we all have amnesia if you're seriously trying to pass off this "nobody on the board was ever anti-rallies!" bullshit.

at least some people in here are consistent about rallies (like TRE) but yeah.
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what?
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Emulator posted...

Is there any official GameFAQs page on Instagram?

no.
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StifledSilence posted...

=( aww man

I mean sure, it IS a stupid 90s movie. But it is THE stupid 90s movie. Back when I was a kid, this movie was a huge deal. Kinda like how the most recent Avengers movie was a huge point of conversation and a must see, ID4 was that movie in 1996.

i mean, it's not that i'm above liking dumb movies. i liked michael bay's original transformers (well, i haven't seen it in a long time so perhaps i would dislike that one now too). independence day is just in... transformers sequel territory for me. i can only imagine how terrible resurgence is.

independence day is far from the worst sci-fi movie i've ever seen. again, will smith's performance is a big positive. i guess i don't adore him to the extent that i'm able to overlook all the film's flaws, though.
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eh, i loved independence day as a kid but now i find it so unbelievably stupid that i don't enjoy it anymore.

will smith is great but he can't save the entire movie.
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Vlado posted...

Yeah, I didn't say anything even close to that. The first post I made in the topic makes it quite clear who I think is responsible.

we've already been over this. just because you're not blaming single moms doesn't mean you're not arguing that single moms are destroying western society.

this is like if i you said "lasa shot someone with a gun, but i'm not saying that the bullet did any damage to the murder victim, because it's not the bullet's fault. it's lasa's fault." yeah, it's not the bullet's fault that the person was killed (because bullets don't have consciousness) but the bullet was still an essential part of the killing. without the bullet i wouldn't have been able to shoot anyone.

basically, your argument is "single moms are turning their children into mass murderers because they're doing a terrible job raising them. but they weren't single moms in the first place because they wanted to be, but because of external factors." i guess you're very slightly defending single moms by arguing that they're not inherently evil or whatever, but it's not exactly a passionate defense. you're still accusing them of doing absolutely horrendous things (turning their children into mass murderers).
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Vlado posted...

Oh really? I am certainly not like that.

well, i did say "the majority." i'm not saying 100% of republicans lack empathy.

but "fuck you i got mine" isn't a thing people say to describe republicans for nothing.
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Vlado posted...

Oh? What do I argue?

that single moms are destroying western society.
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Vlado posted...

Yes, I will empathise with my family, friends, and my people above anyone else. That's how humanity has ALWAYS been. Problem?

depends. it becomes a problem when you can't come up with the slightest bit of empathy for people who aren't your family or friends (this applies to the majority of republicans).
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european culture is not a thing
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you've encountered thousands of europeans who didn't know how to queue in line? wut?
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lol NGG
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Lopen posted...

Vlado has always been very "deep" with his love for Tifa, doing long as hell write-ups about how she was so important to Cloud etc. If you wanna say that was bs and just say "nope, boobs" that's fine but he never played it that way that I recall.

i'm not saying those reasons were bullshit but he openly admitted boobs were one important reason (or two!!) he loved the character as well.

and of course there was the whole inviso thing. and probably more relevant stuff i can't immediately recall right now.

if you don't look at the babe brawl topics in a vacuum and look at vlado's history i'd say tom's point is pretty sensible.
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you also have to remember that it's vlado, who used to be infamous for his extreme love for tifa and her "mighty boobs."

i don't know (or care) if vlado is coming from a horny place when making the babe brawl topics but i can see where tom is coming from.
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pjbasis posted...

To be fair this sentence doesn't imply anything about causation vs. correlation either!

yeah, that sentence is fine. obviously vlado is also arguing stuff that goes way further than that, though.
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also lol, you "triggered me so much"? i think you've seen me argue enough in the past 14 years to know what it looks like when i'm ACTUALLY triggered >_>
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all the statistics the paper cites isn't a logical fallacy, no. without doing thorough research i have no reason to assume they're wrong.

the paper itself does seem to make the same logical error you are making, though. it acts like correlation is causation when it doesn't have to be.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

the only argument you're making is that most of these young criminals were raised by single moms. well, guess what, most of them played video games as well. elliot rodger talks plenty about playing games in his autobiography, even! it comes down to this:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/false-cause

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isn't exegesis fun
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:(
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Vlado posted...

You know in your heart that I am right, you just refuse to admit it.

no, what i "know in my heart" is that there are several single moms among my friends and acquintances who are doing/have done a great job raising their children. the idea that single moms are turning children into mass murderers en masse is pretty offensive to me.
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even if you're not "blaming" single moms you're still saying the reason kids get fucked up is because they're raised by them.
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this IS my hobby
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Vlado posted...

It's quite asinine to equate someone ranting about video games being evil with someone saying broken families generate evil.

what's the difference? thompson and you are just throwing these claims at me ("THE PROBLEM IS VIDEO GAMES!", "THE PROBLEM IS NON-TRADITIONAL FAMILIES!", respectively) without citing any sources whatsoever.

the only argument you're making is that most of these young criminals were raised by single moms. well, guess what, most of them played video games as well. elliot rodger talks plenty about playing games in his autobiography, even! it comes down to this:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/false-cause
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Vlado posted...

Do you seriously not understand why these people become fucked up?! They were not "born this way," they became this way befcause

i can just read this post in jack thompson's voice and insert some rant about GTA from this point on.
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PrinceKaro posted...

i think it is 2001 next because i don't really think soylent green has a top 5

2001 being this low would be a travesty.

(not to be confused with 2001: a space travesty.)
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Lopen posted...

I'm not denying there's a sexual element to it I'm just saying it doesn't have to be the equivalent of lusting over women or whatever that bible passage is condemning.

Like what you're doing is the equivalent to saying no one could possibly play Dead or Alive games because they enjoy the gameplay more than me saying there's no sexual element in the Dead or Alive games.

I guess what I'm saying is you can appreciate something being attractive without lusting over it. Same way you can appreciate good art, music, books, video game characters, or whatever else board 8 wants to rank on any given day.

ok, that's a fair thing to say. i'll admit i misunderstood you.

but yeah, who knows what jesus would have thought about babe brawl. it's often difficult to determine what the precise intent of brief millennia-old bible verses is (though it seems to take vlado no effort whatsoever).
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MariaTaylor posted...

you brought up out of nowhere that you didn't think other people would. but like... why should they? and why should lopen have to speak for other people? it seems like you're placing the burden on people who vote in babe brawl that they should justify it.

it's not that they SHOULD treat babe brawl the same way they would treat art brawl, it's that lopen seemed to be arguing that most of them DO (and he verified that that's what he was arguing later). i'm saying that's probably false.
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MariaTaylor posted...

cool? do you see me doing it every day for 10 years?

perhaps not christianity specifically but i've seen you bash religion - especially islam - quite frequently over the years, yes. but this is also extremely unoriginal and done to death (i say this as a person who also spends a ton of time bashing religion).

are you arguing this isn't bad because you're not doing it every day?

(spoilers: i don't call vlado a hypocrite every day either.)
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MariaTaylor posted...

I guess the point I'm confused on is WHY DOES THIS MATTER?

it doesn't to me. but that doesn't mean i can't point it out.

this is like if someone said "the sky is purple" and i replied "nope it's blue" and then you went "WHY DOES THIS MATTER?" no, it doesn't matter (aside from the fact that i like blue better than purple) but that doesn't mean i can't correct someone when they're posting an incorrect statement.

as for "tom thinks it's bad," he's already stated he thinks it's objectionable for religious reasons. you can fight that out with him.
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MariaTaylor posted...

there are much better things could go be doing. like masturbating to women, or men, or I guess topics about art. whatever gets you off.

how are those things better?

and what if i do all of these things?
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Lopen posted...

You're on the Internet there are much easier ways to get your lustful jollies than babe brawl.

just because there are more blatant sex things on the internet doesn't mean babe brawl isn't a sex thing. it's like how it's stupid to deny that there's a sexual element to the dead or alive xtreme series and that people don't just play the games for the amazing beach volleyball physics, even though they obviously aren't straight-up porn either.

i dunno, i don't go to the babe brawl topics. but the notion that the majority of the people who vote in it don't consider it to be a sex thing at all seems unlikely to me.
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MariaTaylor posted...

wow this has never been done before

can't wait till the board 8 reunion in 2050 where people will still be posting breaking news about the fact that vlado is a hypocrite.

we shouldn't point out when someone is being a hypocrite because it's been done before?


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MariaTaylor posted...

where was all the outrage when yoblazer ran best ass in gaming? I guess tom's bible must have been missing that day.

i don't think yo self-identifies as a christian, though.
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Lopen posted...

I'd vote in a babe brawl with guys or art or whatever else about as often as I vote in babe brawl. For me at least the topic doesn't come from a place of lust. Not to say I'm a good christian or anything in general-- I lust plenty-- but I wouldn't really say that passage is anti babe brawl.

do you really think 99% of the people who vote in babe brawl approach the topic series this way?
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