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I wonder if Vince ever asked Linda to get implants
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Meanwhile WWE EVOLUTION everybody
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TheRock1525 posted...

Wait, didn't Peyton get implants long before she was ever called up?

They both got work done during the period between NXT and call-up

She might have already had them done? But even Alexa earlier this year was told to make her implants bigger
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ShatteredElysium posted...

Wait. How big is Peyton Royce? Because from Lopens post you would assume fat but all the google pictures I saw show her as normal sized and her weight is listed as 132lbs

https://twitter.com/wwemaverick/status/1029853395220406272?s=21
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God this whole conversation is reminding me that Vince kept trying to get Stacy Kiebler to get implants

The man has issues
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Lopen posted...

When your weight becomes relevant to your ability to do your job effectively it no longer becomes shaming though.

What do you say in a case like Peytons though where the chest weight the company (allegedly) told her to add has made her less effective at her job?
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voltch posted...

Goldberg, Hogan, Cena, Brock, maybe looking action figure good does help a lot.

They were gonna cut Cena!
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Lopen posted...

CM Punk with +50 lbs would not have nearly the following to be world champion I will guarantee you that.

CM Punk + 50lbs of muscle might have gotten a Roman push <_<
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerwon/status/1029855721221812224?s=21

I would love to. That's why I thanked her for the post and hope we can all learn from my mistake. But yes, it is my mistake, not passing any bucks, nor making any excuses for it. I've learned and hope others can learn from MY mistake.

I hate that Im passing out cookies just for being a reasonable person but this is so much more than so many actual assholes would do
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StealThisSheen posted...

Did you know Mandy Rose is 5 pounds away from being considered overweight?

This says a lot about our standards

Did you know there is a subset of wrestling stan Twitter that likes to give Liv Morgan shit for being fat?
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How did we get on Peyton adding 50 pounds

If Ellsworth is over on that level then theres no issue. A wrestlers image should be in service of getting them over, not the other way around.

Triple H pretty famously got on TV and shat on CM Punks skinny fat physique but people sure as heck wanted Punk as Champion more than him
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Even in these topics, people like me would fat shame Chris Hero after his original release

He sure showed us
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Lopen posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

We should be treating male body shaming MORE seriously, not the other way around.

I disagree. If you're not in shape and you're in the business of wrestling it's being bad at an aspect of your job. It's not "body shaming" to acknowledge this. Like it's not saying "you need to be less fat to not be a terrible person" it's "you need to be less fat to be a success in wrestling." It's less body shaming and more laziness shaming in the case of a wrestler.

I don't want a bunch of Kevin Owenses on the roster. That's not what wrestling is. A big part of wrestling should be maintaining your body to help create the image of a larger than life character-- where to draw the line is important and I would argue that wrestling perhaps puts it a bit too deeply in at times, but it's definitely somewhere well before hitting a 180 lb Peyton Royce too.

There have been many mega-successful overweight wrestlers though.
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Jakyl25 posted...

Also I like the notion that as much as WWE people have each others backs against these comments, youd wish they had each others backs just as much against MANAGEMENT who tells them they arent attractive enough

Do they have each other's backs enough to form a....union?

A union against dirtsheets, the REAL enemy
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And yeah maybe also channel this anger forward towards protesting the Saudi shows
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Lopen posted...

I tend to agree with Smuffin. It's not really done from a place of malice so it doesn't matter. I mean if it was about actual weight you'd wonder with Peyton Royce, but a guy who is saying a girl her size is fat would have had a lot more than one slip up. It wouldn't really be a "gotcha" moment.

I guess what I'm saying is the only time it's inappropriate to make that comment is when it doesn't make sense. If she actually had gained 50 lbs it would also be okay since image is an important part of wrestling and news relevant. Men get depushed for weight fluctuations and not fitting an image just as much as a woman would. It's a shallow business.

Also I think this is the wrong direction to go with it.

We should be treating male body shaming MORE seriously, not the other way around.

Its an image business is how you get steroid problems
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Also I like the notion that as much as WWE people have each others backs against these comments, youd wish they had each others backs just as much against MANAGEMENT who tells them they arent attractive enough
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If you listen to the whole segment, he definitely wasnt referring to her being fatter.

They even tiptoe around the alterations they had to look more attractive on the main roster.
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And out of that context it really does come across poorly

I know you dont watch the product but the idea of telling Peyton Royce she should lose weight is ridiculous and, if it was actually what he meant, absolutely SHOULD be getting the reaction it got
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SmartMuffin posted...

I guess my larger question here is, is it never appropriate to point out that a woman has gained weight, or become "less attractive" for some other reason?

This is where it gets taken out of context.

He was using that as code for implants
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SmartMuffin posted...

If you don't like that fact, take it up with the people who actually make those decisions (of which Meltz is not one)

Right, and ultimately the issue here is that Dave doesnt like it but he directed his disdain at the wrong target because he wasnt thinking about how his words were coming across
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No Way Jose got the push he deserved
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"As the head of the executive branch and commander in chief, I have a unique constitutional responsibility to protect the nation's classified information, including by controlling access to it. Today, in fulfilling that responsibility, I have decided to revoke the security clearance of John Brennan, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency," Trump said in a statement dictated in the White House briefing room by his press secretary Sarah Sanders.

Im sure his reasons are serious and not at all political
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https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/08/15/health/us-measles-cases-cdc/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F

This makes me so upset

GET YOUR KIDS VACCINATED IF AT ALL POSSIBLE
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I hope Vince is clueless enough to suggest to Rousey that she needs implants
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I'd like to apologize to you. You are an exceedingly attractive woman. I do realize the lengths and pressures on women in the entertainment world to maintain unnatural looks at times and am glad you pointed this out.

As someone who has listened to a ton of Dave, I feel pretty confident saying that he doesnt MEAN to come across as stupidly as he does.
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TheRock1525 posted...

https://twitter.com/dajosc11/status/1027624336499331074?s=19

This is fucking garbage.

He has since given a kind of tome deaf apology

There is a deep problem with WWE and women still being told to get implants on the main roster, but Dave is just too careless to know how to phrase it without it sounding like hes attacking the woman. And Alvarez is even less woke than Dave.

This is where someone like Satin could probably find the right angle of criticism where Dave just cant because of his entrenched outdated understanding of image issues
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Nice job WWE email I just got

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Where was Obama during Katrina??
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Like if she proposed it in December 2016, okay, maybe I can understand the cynicism

But when its 3 months out from a midterm election where they hope to retake Congress, and when shes one of the Dem Presidential frontrunners for 2020, her policy proposals arent meaningless
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Jakyl25 posted...

Jarrett and Global Force Entertainment (which is just Jarrett <_<) are suing Anthem because they still have those 2015 GFW Amped taping footage up on their streaming network (confusingly named Global Wrestling Network).

Jarrett and GFE seek punitive or treble damages at least three times the amount of Anthems profits or GFEs damages, whichever is greater, due to what they say is the nature of the defendants wanton and willful conduct."

Whats greater, 3x0 or 0?

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

How great of her to propose it with a President Trump and GOP held Congress.

Uhhh when else might she propose it?
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Oh hey, I hadnt noticed but Brock has passed Pedro Morales for 6th on the overall WWE World Champ list, after Bruno, Hogan, Backlund, Cena, and Triple H
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Just with that title. Punk also has another 160 days as WHC
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Some legislators said they didn't support impeaching any justice for wasteful spending, only for articles pertaining to lying, cheating or stealing.

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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1029743849160232960?s=21

Happy Birthday to the leader of the Democrat Party, Maxine Waters!

Aww how nice
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Realization I just had

Someday in the far flung future, there will be a Civ game with Donald Trump as the leader of America
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Vlado posted...

"Right" is what's good for you, your family, your people. "Wrong" is what's harmful to them.

Therefore, any politician bringing harm to his country's people is evil and the people are morally justified in removing him.

Like executing drug dealers for example
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Would you count Earthbound Beginnings as a Wii U game since thats its console of first release in America? <_<

Regardless, NOT NOMMING IT
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Your feelings could be based on truth for how best to manage a society, but not any universal truth
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/14/politics/kris-kobach-wins-kansas-republican-governor-primary/index.html

Satire is dead
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Jakyl, counterpoint: What was the last big turn on RAW?

How many times can I count Bayley and Sasha?
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Okay Ill settle on this: it probably wont be Summerslam unless by some miracle Brock retains

When Dean turns it needs to be the BIG NEWS for Raw
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Or, possibly, they could draw it out to HiaC if they want to do Seth vs Dolph in the Cell
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Either at Summerslam or the night after
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Jarrett and Global Force Entertainment (which is just Jarrett <_<) are suing Anthem because they still have those 2015 GFW Amped taping footage up on their streaming network (confusingly named Global Wrestling Network).

Jarrett and GFE seek punitive or treble damages at least three times the amount of Anthems profits or GFEs damages, whichever is greater, due to what they say is the nature of the defendants wanton and willful conduct."

Whats greater, 3x0 or 0?
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Xiahou Shake posted...

Intrinsically no, but they do exist and have value as societal constructs. It's not hard to suss out, for example, that causing harm to your fellow humans isn't cool as a member of human society. If you want to play the RULES OF NATURE card, that's fine, but don't expect to still be welcomed as a member of civilization.

This
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doryphish posted...

I believe this game was the first of its kind, with many attempts to replicate its brilliant style.

Depends on what you mean by its kind.
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I think its 90%
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Correct
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