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LinkPizza posted...

Im surprised people buy games they dont play. Normally, when I buy a game, I at least play it within days. And normally, the day I get it...

Everything I buy I intended to play. In some cases it takes so long I change my mind. I bought Fallout 3 along with Uncharted so many years ago. At the time I didn't have the mouse so F3 sat and sat. I got more games and never found the time for F3. A couple games I bought like Furi or Sky Force Anniversary became freebies before I opened the disc so those didn't need to be opened.

Because I buy games only on sale I'm usually way behind everyone else. It goes on the backlog which I whittle down while waiting for the next batch of discounted software.

Related topic. PSN is having a sale on the nominees. This is why digital sucks. They have MM11 for $24. Got the disc a while ago for $22. BF5 is listed at $36. Got it for $30 barely over a week ago.

There is a lot of crap in this list.

I'll probably get it on PS4.

Wired. All I need to worry about is keeping my MP3 player charged.

Lack of sleep gives me good headaches. Can't imagine trying to fight off 8 cups of coffee.

Pus_N_Pecans posted...

Sahuagin posted...

Hotline Miami was medium/easy (as long as you have patience, if you have zero patience it would be hard I guess).

I agree with you on everything but this one. Hotline Miami is definitely hard, and the sequel is crazy hard. The first one is beatable with a bit of patience, but I don't blame anyone who complains that 2 is too hard, because it really is.

Hard? Try terrible. Worst top down shooter I've ever seen, quit by level 5 and wished I got my money back. All you did was make noise and hope you had enough ammo as things funnel through a door. One of the very few stinkers I couldn't be bothered to finish. Tried on Vita in case that matters.

Chewster posted...

I never played MN9, but wasn't it way more of a mess (both the Kickstarter and actual game)? CotM is competently made and feels pretty good and all, it's just boring and unimpressive. The main Bloodstained game does look like it could be a little rougher though, based on my recollection of the trailer

I played through it, was ok. Wasn't as refined as MMX of course. It could probably get there if they made more. MM 1 is a weird game. MM 2 is where the series hit its strong points. Unfortunately sequels aren't guaranteed these days.

DirtBasedSoap posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Must not get whatever channel it's on, don't see it in the guide.

I dont think they put it on TV anymore, its all online streaming. Im watching it through my Xbox One YouTube app.

That would explain things.

Mead posted...

So overwatch won best esports game over fortnite, kinda surprising

That seems wrong. OW is awful.

Must not get whatever channel it's on, don't see it in the guide.

I'm not wrong, nobody specified what channel.

Can't come up with a good reason why I clicked...

Well if you really want to know. Shampoo is bad for curls so I don't use it as often as others. I enjoy cold showers in the summer after a hot day at work. And sometimes I just leave the lights off.

Hey you knew I was weird, what did you expect?

I backed the physical copy so I'm waiting for that.

I dunno, I kinda feel Mighty 9 went through the same thing. These games were supposed to replicate a classic but without the original license they were limited in how close they could get. Also like Duke Forever, not terrible but couldn't capture what made the originals great.

If you played NES then indies aren't that bad. Really, so many complain that modern games hold your hand too much. Indies are filling holes left by modern games - 2D platformers or shooters. I love 'em. Gungeon, Furi, Nex Machina, Rabi Ribi... Plenty more on the backlog.

Depends on when I get ideas or lists.

Nah. Haven't needed a game so badly that I waited outside at night. Closest I got was waiting for a Wii ticket early in the morning at TrU. Then came back when they opened.

Game awards? What a joke. If it's on US TV then it's gonna have maybe 2.5 games and a string of 'performances' by people you've never heard of.

Given the list, CTR maybe? This isn't something Nin would make a big reveal at. Don't know what Avengers project means.

Peh, good luck. I'll deliver a beatdown as necessary online but it's next to impossible to get me in a tizzy. Years of gaming has given me super stats on patience. And if you argue with me you're probably wrong.

Oh Japan... I don't even want to know.

Who the hell drops that kind of money? Like others say it's good to know my collection has value, but in the end it's only worth what someone will pay. For now I'm not selling, I like these things.

ThrillKillFan posted...

LinkPizza posted...

Are you saying youd rather waste money? Because you can still go do that. I usually like to save money, though. I would normally rather buy a game myself. But Im not gonna be mad if I get the display item. Do I think it should be less? Yeah. But Ill still pay new price as long as its still new. Which it is. No wrapper means I dont have to waste time tearing it off, anyway. And the wrapper is going to go in the trash.

In the end, if you really care that much about the plastic, then ask for a wrapped copy if they have one.

We have different definitions of what we consider new, just like Gamestop apparently does. I would rather have a fully sealed one that little kids didn't wipe their snot on, sneeze on or that people touched the open case and everything else with their bare hands after running out of the bathroom without washing their hands.

Besides which at 70% off most clearance stuff from Target and even Walmart beats many Gamestop prices by leaps and bounds.

Is that your best argument? Geez, you're more likely to catch that crap from a door handle or shopping cart.

ThrillKillFan posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Discs don't have a limited shelf life. 'New' is just a word, for me the thing to look for is the condition of the disc/case. I mean if you've ever gotten something from Gamefly those are practically new. Arguing over cellophane is silly if it saves $30. Then really it's just inventory control. You go to BB and they got those plastic boxes. Targ or TrU use locked shelves.

Except that some of those 'practically new' discs from Gamefly and/or Redbox have big chips missing off the edges of them that sometimes make them not work after a while.

Either way I'd rather buy a 70% off new and sealed clearance game from Target versus a $30 opened and not new (to me) game from Gamestop.

Opened isn't the same as used. New cars aren't exactly taped shut and rolled across the country. You all are just using this as a crazy reason to bash GS.

Try the experiment I mentioned above at a random Gamestop with a game you know you're going to keep anyway. See what they say. That's what amused me about their policy of opening new games to make display cases. When they do it it's magically still "new". If I do it right in front of them, it's somehow no longer new. That, to me, is bullshit.

As for 'bashing' Gamestop, they have SOME decent sales at times. Last thing I bought from them was Constructor for PS4 for $5. It was indeed 'newsed'. But it was $5. If it's a $40-50 game and 'newsed' then there's an issue. But for a cheap game that likely nobody even looked at the case of, so it stayed truly like new, then I'm fine with the opened as new thing.

I won't buy a game if the box is awful. Never seen a damaged disc yet.

For me it's whoever is first to $30. New or used. Yes I've seen clearance sales that beat used prices. But like for the recent BF, GS had the lowest price first on TR, Astro Bot, and AC Odyssey. New. Because people don't trade in games as frequently I'll admit it's getting harder to find used prices reaching my price point before new copies do.

LinkPizza posted...

helIy posted...

yeah, fuck business making your shit more secure

Well, yeah. If its so secure that you cant get into it, it would kind of suck...

Uh huh, meanwhile they're getting hacked anyway so all it does is piss us off.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

It should be banned along with captchas. Extra security is pointless if it prevents people from using a service. Oh you made 2FA available but tell me I have to buy a phone? GTFO.

Or, you know, optional.

I miss zero password requirements.

I wish. Sites with forced captchas I stopped visiting. Lost a survey site, can't use CL, no go with Sony's or Nin's sites, and the only way to contact them to bitch about it is social media. I swear if I hafta go through all that then I'm going to ruin their day on those sites.

It should be banned along with captchas. Extra security is pointless if it prevents people from using a service. Oh you made 2FA available but tell me I have to buy a phone? GTFO.

Why does anyone have to defend women? Haven't they claimed to be all independent and equal?

ssj4supervegeta posted...

I don't see how this is even a question. unless I only have about 3-4 years left to live I don't see why you'd pick the first one.

If you take a moment to overthink it I suppose you could build up an investment faster and let that earn the rest over time.

Revelation34 posted...

Yeah there literally is no difference between that. But the thing is with Gamestop is they don't do it like that anymore. They use to only have one out as a display copy and now they seem to open every single one except for the high ticket games.

Because they have so much variety to stock, they aren't ordering 100 copies like the bad stores. Maybe they'll get 5 or 10 so yeah there's a chance you'll get the display. I mean back when I wanted the SE of Hyperdimension Neptunia my closest shop had the only one in 25 miles. They had 2 of the base model PSVR's on launch day. It's a tiny store in a shopping plaza, there isn't a large back room for this stuff.

Moral of the story is the condition is the most important. If I get a game to play will anyone be able to tell if there was once a wrapper or not?

ThrillKillFan posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Yankee Candle should make 'new game smell'. With that said I buy so many games I don't feel a need to sniff every one. (Wow, what a sentence.)

I typically buy quite a few games as well yet Gamestop is the only place where I have bought a "new" game that's opened already.

I don't get that seal too often. Returning games is rare for me and I understand why they'd limit it. People would treat them like rentals.

I don't usually return games often either. But the thing is to me new means buying something in a factory sealed package.

Once it's been opened it's considered used to me regardless of who opened it. So excuse me for wanting a factory sealed item that hasn't been subjected to innumerable people's snot, saliva and/or other bodily fluids from their filthy hands manhandling the case, artwork and any possible manual.

Nobody is making you shop at GS. For the most part we're talking about buying games for ourselves. If you actually need a wrapped product for a gift then make sure it's wrapped.

If you don't mind then that's fine. That's your thing. But, AGAIN, to me once it's opened it's USED and it should NOT be able to be sold as new.

Otherwise it should be sold as used with a decent shopworn discount.

Discs don't have a limited shelf life. 'New' is just a word, for me the thing to look for is the condition of the disc/case. I mean if you've ever gotten something from Gamefly those are practically new. Arguing over cellophane is silly if it saves $30. Then really it's just inventory control. You go to BB and they got those plastic boxes. Targ or TrU use locked shelves.

Opened isn't the same as used. New cars aren't exactly taped shut and rolled across the country. You all are just using this as a crazy reason to bash GS.

Far-Queue posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Discs drop in price, digital doesn't.

Digital drops in price all the time. How are you this dense?

How often and how much? $2 off a digital game is hardly a discount. I mean significant discounts. $60 digital games sit there for months while a good ol' disc drops 50% within a couple months if not sooner.

ThrillKillFan posted...

DPsx7 posted...

How entitled do you need to be to bitch about a lousy wrapper on your game? You're gonna open it anyway. Of course if there's physical damage then that's an issue.

@DPsx7

Because some of us like the visceral joy of ripping into the plastic that games are sealed in and breathing in that 'new game smell' that first time you open the case?

Not only that but if you buy a 'newsed' game and the clerk forgets to put that little clear plastic seal on it that denotes it was the last copy many times the stores will refuse to allow you to return it. With a truly SEALED copy you can. Sometimes you change your mind after buying something.

Finally people buy them as gifts for other people. Do you really think that it's appropriate to give somebody an already opened game as a gift? I don't.

Yankee Candle should make 'new game smell'. With that said I buy so many games I don't feel a need to sniff every one. (Wow, what a sentence.)

I don't get that seal too often. Returning games is rare for me and I understand why they'd limit it. People would treat them like rentals.

Nobody is making you shop at GS. For the most part we're talking about buying games for ourselves. If you actually need a wrapped product for a gift then make sure it's wrapped.

No kidding, being there is way more important than what he's wearing. Stupid media.

Far-Queue posted...

"Their sales suck" is the best you can come up with? Digital sales are on par and often better than retail sales. Especially when you consider bundles.

I'm not saying GS isn't good for a bargain here and there. Not sure why you're so hung up on defending them. That you write off digital sales en masse goes to show how profoundly ignorant you are on this subject.

The line right after explains why they're bad. Discs drop in price, digital doesn't.

Says who? Problem with that comment is they're only looking at the totals not the breakdown. Physical game versus digital game, disc wins. However if you're boosting the digital numbers by adding DLC or subscriptions (obviously can't be on disc) then you're not getting a fair comparison. There's a clear demand for discs for a variety of reasons. Digital is not taking over anytime soon.

I don't have a personal stake in GS, all I want are the most games for the least amount of money. GS's B2G1 sales are useful. I just read these complaints from obviously inept people and go 'that sounds like a you problem, not a them problem'. How entitled do you need to be to bitch about a lousy wrapper on your game? You're gonna open it anyway. Of course if there's physical damage then that's an issue.

DrCidd posted...

Why does anyone even care? I think most people would agree that gamestop is a cancerous tumor on the gaming industry. They can't go out of business soon enough. Support your local mom'n'pop game shop, where you're more than just a dollar sign.

WhiskeyDisk posted...

All you really need to know about GameStop can be summed up by a quick Google search about their "circle of life" program internally.

I was given a lot of shit by most of the gamestop dick riders here when I stated how they straight up lie to their customers. Why would it stop at new/used games?

Like who? Gaming, at least the video kind, isn't the kind of thing small businesses get into. I know there's nothing near here except one retro store. Wally is 40 minutes away. TrU is gone. Targ and BB are jokes. That doesn't leave much other than GS.

Nobody will argue they're the only ones to carry non mainstream items. If you're a regular then you won't get the 'sales pitch', a simple nah if they ask about preorders and you're good. The employees here know their stuff. Who is lying if I get my games at a price I'm happy with? Really, the truth is if you go in there being stupid then they might take advantage of that. Otherwise their stock puts them above anything else around here.

Got my start playing with my parents and their wood grain 2600. The market crash gave me the first backlog.

wolfy42 posted...

Zeus posted...

wolfy42 posted...

The simple fact that by the time they are giving any kind of actual discount on used games at all (and not selling it for $5 less then full retail) there is almost always a sale on the new game that is cheaper then the used versions at gamestop.

What?

Lets use Assassin's Creed Odyssey as an example.

It's currently on sale new at gamestop for 59.99 and used for 54.99.

Meanwhile I bought it form Amazon during a sale for $27.

Now they did have it on sale at gamestop as well, but it was more expensive (mid 30's?). Steam had it for 40, and might still. Green man gaming had it for 30 something and I had a coupon to bring it down to within a few dollars of $27 (should have just done that but I had amazon credit).

I got AC Odyssey and the new TR for $27 each at GS for BF. Zon probably price matched 'em.

I see better prices than their used prices all the time. This is why you shop at multiple stores. Still I've gotten some great deals from GS by being smart about it.

Far-Queue posted...

rogerskg1979 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Only stupid people go all digital. They're lazy. You'll spend full price on a DL instead of half price for a disc just because you don't want to get up. Epic fail.

The only epic fail is your idiotic post.

It is rather ignorant. On top of humble bundles and Steam sales, Xbox and PlayStation have sales almost every week on digital games. Homeboy must be living under a rock.

Their sales suck. By the time a digital game is half price the disc has been that low several times. Witness took months to drop to $10. The 'sale' on the SotN remake was a crappy $3 ($17 total or so). I don't expect to see Beat Saber hit $10 for a long time. But on the plus side by waiting it out I've gotten disc versions of games like Firewatch, Mighty 9, Alienation, Rush of Blood, Furi, Job Sim, etc.

Dunno, haven't seen it.

A few times.

A perfectly fine glass patio table. A redwood rocker that just needed some paint. The house has an old storm door and the knob/lock was pretty worn, so when someone discarded theirs I took it for parts.

Just something simple like 'have a good holiday'. I'm not doing it to be PC, honestly if it could offend the rugsuckers I'd offend them often. Instead I feel both sayings are a little overused so I go with something a bit different.

I gave up social time to keep me time and work time.

I thought bars were FOR people to go out by themselves.

Personally I'm not sure I'd be in a bar to begin with.

teddy241 posted...

Most games are digital now anyways.

Get wit the times people.

Hell even bestbuy is going under. They closed a few stores in my area. Amazon is really killing the competition now.

Only stupid people go all digital. They're lazy. You'll spend full price on a DL instead of half price for a disc just because you don't want to get up. Epic fail.

Why would any rational person choose BB over GS? Bleh.

It's not the only shop I go to but I have 3 GS's in the area and one is my closest retailer of gaming. A little wrapper doesn't mean anything to me, new or used it's all about the condition of the game and case. I mean we're going to open it eventually right?

If I had to suggest anything I'd prefer a slightly bigger store, a few less collectibles and more focus on retro gaming (which only works if people sell their games there), and price matching. Like was said it's the only place to get less mainstream games.

Far-Queue posted...

ParanoidObsessive posted...

aHappySacka posted...

like no cross-platform play for example.

I consider this a positive.

Doesn't matter anyway because I'm pretty sure the Fortnite hooplah forced Sony's hand into allowing cross-platform play. I think games like Fortnite and Rocket League will be the first up, with others to follow eventually.

I don't care so much about the crossplay itself as I do the fact that it should encourage consoles to offer native M/KB support. I like my Aimon but it has been used extensively over the years and I don't like the new models.

Rooster_Sucker posted...

DPsx7 posted...

XB doesn't offer anything but gun and car games.

How do you see where you're going with your head so far up your ass?

It's fact. Not much else besides Halo and Forza which are being run into the ground at CoD levels. Got so bad they relied more on BC than new games. I simply don't know why people would willingly buy that.

I know of DDR but don't think I've seen an actual machine. I have played Pump It Up though, uses 5 panels and is more Korean pop music.

What are you playing that needs censoring?

If you like games and want variety, you need PS4. XB doesn't offer anything but gun and car games.

Lokarin posted...

3d dot game heroes don't count, it's 3D... there's plenty of 3D adventure games

It's not really 3D, just the graphics break into cubes.