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ScareChan posted...

I said I wasnt claiming for anyone

You took it personally

I suppose I did. As town trying to get an answer to a question which you shouldn't have a problem with answering its extremely frustrating.
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ScareChan posted...

Obellisk posted...

Scare I am looking for a baseline to go off of here.

You've started this very combative. Maybe for good reason you came in to multiple votes.

I need to feel better about you here and right now you are deliberately fighting me.

How is this helpful for town?

You have come off of a ScumScare game and a TownScare game

You can form a basline WITHOUT me dealing with ANYTHING related to Pirate

The fact that you are sticking to this is very amusing. I feel like how Blade felt when I kept trying to murder him and he just laughed in my face

I'm not trying to murder you here. What don't you understand
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htaeD posted...

Sbell, I think you're reaching for too many tangents here.

I do not like his demeanor here yet he's attacking me for my tone.

I'm extremely annoyed by his entire approach. I asked a simple question and he's being a real dick about it.
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ScareChan posted...

Oh, you're trying to play cute now. Cute doesnt work for you.

No I'm not being cute. You are deliberately playing with your words.
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Scare I am looking for a baseline to go off of here.

You've started this very combative. Maybe for good reason you came in to multiple votes.

I need to feel better about you here and right now you are deliberately fighting me.

How is this helpful for town?
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ScareChan posted...

I have nothing to do with Chris and his death, I stated this already

Did pirate?
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Jesus fucking christ how fucking hard is this
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ScareChan posted...

Obellisk posted...

Seeing what?

I am directly asking something of a new player coming into the game and he's directly ignoring me.

It makes me distrust you.

And I do not want to focus on you being not a team player.

As a new player I have done nothing that warrants needing to claim

But your replacee did and you do have to answer for that.

Yes or no did your player spot kill Chris. That's a I want.

Was pirate lying when he claimed.

Should I believe you?
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ScareChan posted...

Obellisk posted...

ScareChan posted...

Obellisk posted...

Asking you to not be a stubborn fool and work with the game is not asking too much.

You said you dont want to tunnel me

look at my play and you wont have to

What bothers me here is if someone else replaced into a game that had already claimed you'd be doing the same thing I'm doing. But now yours just being a dick about it.

I ask again

What does my claim give you

Continuity.
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Seeing what?

I am directly asking something of a new player coming into the game and he's directly ignoring me.

It makes me distrust you.

And I do not want to focus on you being not a team player.
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ScareChan posted...

Obellisk posted...

Asking you to not be a stubborn fool and work with the game is not asking too much.

You said you dont want to tunnel me

look at my play and you wont have to

What bothers me here is if someone else replaced into a game that had already claimed you'd be doing the same thing I'm doing. But now yours just being a dick about it.
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ScareChan posted...

Obellisk posted...

ScareChan posted...

What do you need my claim for? What do you gain from it? Why should I give it? What have you done to make me listen to you?

Pirates offensive on Chris pinged me.
Pirates claim in my opinion is possibly false. His claimed ultimate sounds to me like a killing role. Chris died randomly. Pirate then up and replaced. I want reassurance that I shouldn't tunnel you. I've done the best I can this game to seed out off behavior the best I can.

But I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt here and work with you if town.

You want reassurance you shouldn't tunnel me? That's your conclusion?

Oh boy

Asking you to not be a stubborn fool and work with the game is not asking too much.

Also I don't see the problem in mentuoning pirate having claimed it only points to whether scare read up or is winging it which also speaks to potential alignment
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Now I'm at Winrys soccer game. Limited access. Back in a bit
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ScareChan posted...

What do you need my claim for? What do you gain from it? Why should I give it? What have you done to make me listen to you?

Pirates offensive on Chris pinged me.
Pirates claim in my opinion is possibly false. His claimed ultimate sounds to me like a killing role. Chris died randomly. Pirate then up and replaced. I want reassurance that I shouldn't tunnel you. I've done the best I can this game to seed out off behavior the best I can.

But I would like to give you the benefit of the doubt here and work with you if town.
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Scare, please.

Pirate claimed, please follow suit and full claim for us.
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I have to admit it Corrik, it's not a bad description of you, as of late that'd I've seen anyway.
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Corrik posted...

Obellisk posted...

Chris and Corrik have been adamant of his scuminess

Not true.

I read back after that post and found I was incorrect on this statement, slightly.
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I can never read town or scum scare. And frankly I dont like it.

another laughable vote on me.

Apparently scare doesn't actually know how to read me either. Did I even do anything last game other than tunnel Chris? I spend this day one actually scum hunting and it's nothing but same sbell...

Scare I'd like to unvote you but you didn't claim for us. That's l I asked of you.
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Scum pirate without his team around for guidance may well do just that.
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turbopuns2 posted...

Ohh I just realized I may not have great service since I'm going to be around a big crowd. We'll see.

Are you Implying big people block phone signals. That's rude.
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Corrik posted...

Neablis posted...

2) You are godfather and believe you have been town confirmed, your dayvig kills chris so that you can right confirmed till end game.

Chris' power ignores godfather and other alignment changing powers.

Didn't learn that for certain till after his flip.
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And to get it going...

##unvote
##vote: scare

Gonna put my back into it and make scare tell us a story.
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Ahh, so he did.

Well that's something to think on.

Scare is where I think things need to start. I'd like some answers.
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Sheep007 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Well that's the beauty of this game sheep. You can be wrong about something and still be town.

Nope, if you have any difference in opinion with me then you're scum.

Chris actually went back on his scumread of Puns iirc which is helpful

Being wrong and differing in opinion are to totally different things.

Did Chris go town on puns?
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Neablis posted...

The easiest solution is that you are town, but not confirmed based on chris ability

Whats fd got going for him exactly outside of this situation?

I found him to be harsh and unnecessarily abrasive in alot of his posts and it felt forced to me. Not a town feeling.
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Well that's the beauty of this game sheep. You can be wrong about something and still be town.

The Han vote wasn't well placed, reading back I saw that my impression of Hans timing was off and then dyl going at him beefed up Han points and really lowered dyl points. I could see a dyl lynch.

Puns has been a question for me because I don't remember his play at all from years back and Chris and Corrik have been adamant of his scuminess. And frankly I'm now more inclined to listen. Granted his claim and I just dunno if you fake that as scum because it opens the door to a free lynch and as scum you get fucked by that (unless bomb). I just hate having to think about it.

I want to follow up on scare. He needs to full claim immediately. Ultimate gunslinger def. Sounds like something that could secretly day kill something. Question is is it town or scum. Pirate slinking away like last game makes me think he can't take the pressure of having to defend killing Chris, but that's just my imagination running.

Dooplis and zxyxz, have done fuck all and I encourage them to get more involved here. Clearly this is a fucked up game and not participating is only hurtful to town.
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Sheep007 posted...

I think FD is Town so I'd rather we just move on from this.

Can we get some more votes on Corrik? Apparently 8 people think he's scum yet only two have voted him this far which is sad.

You'll have to excuse my difference of opinion then.

As for Corrik his list was faulty. Not interested in voting him at the moment.
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FD, let me try speaking reasonably.

If it was any other player other than Chris having that power and being killed I might give you the benefit of the doubt and lean towards you more likely being town. But... Chris fear exists and if someone had the ability to kill Chris in secret in the middle of the day then I can see that happening and I can see it having nothing to do with your being targeted.

On the flip side I can see how if you are scum you would be fine with it because in the end its all wifom and it doesn't confirm or deny you and you being able to fight your way out of a lynch.

These are just some of the possibilities that I see existing and I think they are just as logical as the ones where you are confirmed town.
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Youre an idiot. If you can't see that it's all wifom. And to try resting on the laurels of something Chris said and then him dying randomly...

Im literally laughing at you right now.

Yay countervotes.
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49 hour weekend
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FD you are the asinine one here thinking you can just coast because in your head it mKes no sense for scum to kill Chris if you are on the scum team.

Its a whole bunch of wifom.

How about you pull the stick out of your ass and play the game and stop trying to ride Chriss random death into your confirmation.
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Good morning kids.

Scare claim immediately.

Fd you are in no way confirmed and your arguing about role pms being released based on misinformation might not have been the strongest reason to vote you but your insistence that Chris being killed makes you town is.

DYLs arguing with Han was really bad. No one cares why you don't show up just that you do and you participate. I in no way voted Han for the reasons that dyl did. And my reason was t that great either but only cause I didn't realize he had actually caught up. I thought Hans list was based on reading like 2 pages.

And I think pirate was trolling this game now based on his last post before replace.
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Pirate_Harris posted...

Well it looks like the game has turned to absolutely tornado clusterfuck with Chris's death. Looks like I'm gonna hit the old dusty trail and ride into the sunset.

"Tell me your name, or I won't be responsible for my actions.

Oh, but you will. You will be responsible. This is a fine spot. See you around, cowboy."

Pirate has left the building

What????
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turbopuns2 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Implying that it wasn't a scum or vig kill?

..what?

You think flavor is responsible
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turbopuns2 posted...

Dark Young Link posted...

None of us selected characters as far as I know, so there's really no point in worrying about flavor since it's just "Ultimate [whatever we choose]"

This seems like an awfully naive statement.

Again, I know nothing of the source flavor. But, to suggest that the entire scope of a flavor is restricted to knowing specific characters? Uhm. Have you played mafia before? Being familiar with the general universe we are existing in could very easily offer a likely explanation for someone mysteriously dying.

I'm not at all sure why you'd assume that a death must by definition be strictly associated with specific characters without any possible chance of being explained generally.

Implying that it wasn't a scum or vig kill?
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Camden posted...

Menji posted...

So... craziest thing that happened to someone at your high school?

This kid who lived four or five houses down the street from me pretty much disappeared one day. All the rest of us kids around there didn't really know what happend, his family didn't move, he was just gone all of a sudden. The rumor was that he was molesting his little brother and their dog.

To be fair, we weren't in high school yet because he was a few years older than us, but this is the only thing I can really think of. Next thing I can think of is some girl was in Playboy.

I had a similar situation with a kid in middle school who just disappeared but his older and ridiculously obese sister was still in school. Rumor was his parents caught him and his sister having sex and they sent him off to military school.
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High school principal was arrested for Sexually molesting a student also his ward.
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It was a receipt...

... For murder
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turbopuns2 posted...

Any flavor experts have something to say about this?

Why do you think flavor has a play
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turbopuns2 posted...

So there was something that caused a player to die

In the middle of the day

With zero explanation?

Did I miss something or is that accurate?

Thats correct.
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Well...

Anyone here?
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Pirate.

Where is pirate?
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Didn't someone claim ultimate gunslinger?
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Oh and Corrik, I never specifically called you scum.
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Sheep007 posted...

htaeD posted...
What was scumchris like last game?

Slippery, kept beating on the same thing and then changing to something else when that didn't seem to be working. Basically everything he did was both beneficial for him as scum but pro-town if he was town (and had good reads).

Just reading back a bit.. Chris and I spent like the whole game tunneling each other.
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Why did the game just die?
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##vote:fd

Now you sound like salty scum... But why?
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benjamin3740 posted...

GAME SPECIFIC RULES
- When a player dies, their entire role and flavor will be posted in the flip.

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I guess it's also possible it's just Chris fear and Fd is just a red herring.
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Johnbobb posted...

Obellisk posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

If I were on the scum team I would have known he hadn't used

Why would the scum team know this?

because Chris said FD was TOWN and also didn't die

if FD was scum he would've known Chris was lying and didn't actually use it

Oh that makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that
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