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Corrik posted...

Sbell claim

If it comes to that.
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Corrik posted...

Obellisk posted...

Corrik posted...

Obellisk posted...

We don't have nearly enough information on this day 2 to gladiate anyone.

It doesn't matter how much information you have. It matters what he thinks. And, a day when we have no strong leads is the best day to use it if he feels someone is scum

The question I guess is do we think it's town or scum. And shouldn't we as a collective choose a proper gladiation rival?

No. He should choose whoever he wants. It is his power.

Umm, why do you sound so convinced it's a town gladiator?
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Corrik posted...

Obellisk posted...

We don't have nearly enough information on this day 2 to gladiate anyone.

It doesn't matter how much information you have. It matters what he thinks. And, a day when we have no strong leads is the best day to use it if he feels someone is scum

The question I guess is do we think it's town or scum. And shouldn't we as a collective choose a proper gladiation rival?
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We don't have nearly enough information on this day 2 to gladiate anyone.
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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Obellisk posted...

Neablis posted...

htaeD posted...

Neablis, there is a difference between saying no and saying 'lol scum would love to know what I am'

Regardless of my role it is true, if I am VT or power it helps scum by claiming here. If I am vt it helps narrow who can be power and if I am a power just leaves me to be shot.

So yeah it would just help scum in either case, which is why I dont think kanz should claim either at this point.

Ummm, what?

Does it help town or scum just to lynch you without a claim?

See day 1 lynch.

If he is town it help scum to lynch him regardless.

It was a rhetorical question.
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I would hate for us to lynch town again just for dyl to again not be lynched.

Then day 3 we finally lynch dyl and find that he's scum and we are stoopid for not getting him day 1
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Sheep007 posted...

Hmm SBell votes from FD and Puns now

Do I bite or do I go DYL

Depends on how you feel about fd and puns I suppose.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Time to go vote! Back later.

Ciao

But you just did vote...
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Hrmmm, I forgot that happened!

I would still feel better if you would just tell the truth about your role, but there it is.

##unvote: puns
##vote: SBell aka Obellisk aka Stu

Sbell will do just fine Thanks.
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Neablis posted...

htaeD posted...

Neablis, there is a difference between saying no and saying 'lol scum would love to know what I am'

Regardless of my role it is true, if I am VT or power it helps scum by claiming here. If I am vt it helps narrow who can be power and if I am a power just leaves me to be shot.

So yeah it would just help scum in either case, which is why I dont think kanz should claim either at this point.

Ummm, what?

Does it help town or scum just to lynch you without a claim?

See day 1 lynch.
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Who ended on scare again?

Pirate replacing out and scare refusing to claim.. It was a perfect storm for scum to pile on and force a mislynch with good reasoning.
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Neablis posted...

I can understand the replace point always hard judging.

So you question the point of FD making the reads on harris/scare. Your reads feels a little unfinished, do you think fd is town by his wanting to provide content, scum for fake content that is poi tless?

Thats what I'm trying to work out. Is he spending this time on walls that personally I feel don't do anything, but maybe they are helpful for him, to feign activity when he's gone for such extended periods of time...

Is this game archived. I would like to go back to topic 1 and do some rereading.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Oh that wasnt the response I expectes

I mean... No?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hey SBell, you wanna claim?

Yeah I could do that a bit if the fates requested it.
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Neablis posted...

Obellisk posted...

Doopliss_Power posted...

but there is nothing in that post that helps Town if you are Town.

Nothing that helps town in asking me to make that post either.

So at least we had some fun.

So how are you viewing the game right now bell?

Honestly I'm lost. The 3 replaces and not being here end of day one has really displaced me and I'm trying to have fun here.

Every read I've had and probed in any way I've doubtrd (except dyl. Reasons already stated, however even that one I'm now wondering if I'm just being stupid).

The reads that one person gave and then gets replaced and the other guy gives you a different feel.... 3 in one day is a bit much.

I felt FD was forcing his anger to start, red flag. But when he does show up he does provide content, even if it feels a bit pointless. (his pre and post pirate replace list is a bit... What was the point of that).

I think Corrik is town and still do but at the same time I'm wondering if I am fooling myself or rather he's fooling me by playing it the way he did last game where I KNEW he was town and was able to actually study him.

I think Han could be town, not throwing counter shade at all. I think he handled himself well against dyl crap attack and alot of the points I give Han are based on DYL.

Ffnut/Sultan is town based on FFNut claim but Sultan has had a few questionable posts. However not going to count that against him.

Gravy was a non factor so I get to judge sheep on his own merit. Leaning town.

Doop I felt has done very little and I don't know if we can trust the gladiator. I'd lean scum

This is my steam of consciousness right now. I'll add more opinions in a little bit.

I acknowledge I haven't voted today yet.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

but there is nothing in that post that helps Town if you are Town.

Nothing that helps town in asking me to make that post either.

So at least we had some fun.
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Doopliss_Power posted...

Obellisk posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

Well I wouldn't want to break the pattern now...help me figure out a way to misconstrue your lack of a vote so far day 2.

How about, dyl is my scum buddy, I left with my vote on him day one knowing hed never actually die because it was still too early in the evening and lol b8 specials, also Corrik demanded scares head. So I knew he was safe, but today I didn't want to take any risks with scare flipping town so I am keeping my vote off of him and pussy footing around.

Is that good?

I must say, this reads to me more like angry scum trying to waste time than angry Town trying to take out their anger. Nothing constructive at all unless it's actually true, so it doesn't have a point from a Town perspective.

Also, thanks for answering my question, Sultan.

But there was no anger in that post...

Doop I was asked to help him misconstrue my lack of vote so far.

Are you misconstruing the reason why I just posted that paragraph?
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turbopuns2 posted...

Sheep also...you gonna vote today? Join us on SBell?

Yeah, about that, I'd prefer not to have people on me that won't be here to unvote, call me insecure about a mislynch.
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turbopuns2 posted...

Well I wouldn't want to break the pattern now...help me figure out a way to misconstrue your lack of a vote so far day 2.

How about, dyl is my scum buddy, I left with my vote on him day one knowing hed never actually die because it was still too early in the evening and lol b8 specials, also Corrik demanded scares head. So I knew he was safe, but today I didn't want to take any risks with scare flipping town so I am keeping my vote off of him and pussy footing around.

Is that good?
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Well it isn't my fault either.

Literally everything I've said this game has been misconstrued.
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Well it isn't my fault either.

Literally everything I've said this game has been misconstrued.
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turbopuns2 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I love when everyone can confirm themselves based on what Chris said about them.

Did Chris say any nice words about me?

I'd like to be confirmed town

this reads as you know I am in fact town. You show no openness to the idea maybe Chris was wrong.

More SBell votes!

Ummm how the hell does it read that way?

I'm literally mocking you saying "dead town thought I was town, you should too!"

I swear, the reading comprehension is going so far south these days.
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I love when everyone can confirm themselves based on what Chris said about them.

Did Chris say any nice words about me?

I'd like to be confirmed town
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NAMELESS!

stupid fucking Pokmon.
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htaeD posted...

Honestly Harris shouldnt have made such a big theatrical exit. If he'd kept quiet, I would have found it less awful.

Well he's now done it as scum and town.

So it's not like he's setting precedent other than he will replace out.
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Voted before I got to the office.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

I also want to revisit SBell's middle post there:

I need to feel better about you here and right now you are deliberately fighting me.

I was really curious about the choice of words here.

Why did SBell "need" to be given a reason to not put a vote on town

No you misunderstand. I don't need to be given a reason not to put a vote down. Besides I'm pretty sure I already had voted for him at that point (good job there). I needed to feel better about him filling a town player slot and his reluctance to claim and stubbornness was not making me feel better.

Wkth that said I did change my opinion on him and I could have sworn I told people to stop trying to lynch him. Corrik especially went very hard at the no claiming thing (much more than me) and I had already come to the conclusion he was trying to eat a Nk. Which is why I was much more comfortable ending on DYL when I left for the night.
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turbopuns2 posted...

I don't get why people think Corrik is some kind of brainless troll.

Sometimes his one word and dismissive answers can be off-putting but he stimulates reactions out of people.
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turbopuns2 posted...

What are the odds Corrik is scum who only voted niablis to low key get in my good graces

In what universe does Corrik scum or town care about your good graces?
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Neablis posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

What is an unusually competent scum team "move"

Dunking Chris asap if he didn't kill himself

stupid scum would softball and get bodied for it, for instance

What do you mean by softball?

"Oh we can let chris live a day, we can get him tomorrow"

I've seen this a couple times before

it goes poorly every single time

Imo mafia strategy kill the person most likely to figure out the game ftw!

Like the guy that will confirm town or die trying?
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KanzarisKelshen posted...

Obellisk posted...

What is an unusually competent scum team "move"

Dunking Chris asap if he didn't kill himself

stupid scum would softball and get bodied for it, for instance

What do you mean by softball?
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What is an unusually competent scum team "move"
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Damn it guys, now FD is going to show up, super pissed and angry, with this "I'm town you pieces of shit" - swagger. And we're going to have to deal with it.
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Sheep007 posted...

Neablis posted...

Sheep007 posted...

May be going to bed soonish

If I die midday the person who claims to have visited me and isn't DYL is either Town or another red herring

Why would that person be a red herring as well

I said at the start of the day I got something from them. Not guaranteed town but would be weird for scum.

Game of thrones mafia from years ago I was given a doc save by Brohan

Essentially pushed Brohan to the final 3. Why would scum give town a doc save.

Brohan was scum.

Just keep that in mind.
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Sheep death scum team. Lock it in
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Did dyl say why he chose sheep to just wander over to?
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Obellisk posted...
Wohhh, when have I even remotely buddied up to youHan?

Arguing your accuser is scum has nothing to do with you, guy.

1. DYL votes me.
2. I vote DYL. Say SBell is Scummy too.
3. SBell votes me.
4. DYL looks bad.
5. SBell hops off of supporting DYL against me, starts supporting attacks on DYL.

Deny it if you want, but it appears like you are siding with me to convince me to not think of you as Scum, particularly if you see I'm not an easy mislynch.

My vote on you was based on you showing up, claiming to not be caught up and then throwing shade at me.

It wasn't till I read back did I realize you said you were caught up prior to commenting on me.

I redacted my comment. Swiftly unvoted. Accepted my err.

You read up and found me scummy, I can't argue with your view (which you never expanded on BTW)

But in all of this I saw you handle dyl just fine and his argument on you to be pure shitsville.
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turbopuns2 posted...

Obellisk posted...

I just think that dyl being town or scum, he handled his claim as well as can be expected.

What is the the rationale behind Town not claiming that role day 1?

Not knowing role specifics I can't say exactly.

He just visits people and that's it? Does it notify said person? Can he be seen doing it? Can it be used in a way to trap scum?

Town power regardless of its futility should be kept protected as long as possible.
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...

It's not my only reason to be on him but right now I feel like John bob being the way he is being is more concerning ##unvote

And that's fine, I'm not condemning you for it. I just think that dyl being town or scum, he handled his claim as well as can be expected.

Mind you him being one of two people to visit sheep and no deaths and dyl not claiming to have protected him in anyway is much more concerning.
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Ok, not scanner....

And yeah, it's a claim that can easily be hiding a scum role.

But sultans view of the process is all wrong.
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No, dyl claimed sleepwalker. Which is like a weak scan of some kind isn't it?
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turbopuns2 posted...

Obellisk posted...

Sultan, your post comes off scummy because dyl was close to being lynched and was trying to protect his scanning role, if you are going to die you don't get your night action. If you reveal said night action then don't get lynched you are now the eater of all roleblocks.

Nothing about dyls claiming was bad or scummy in anyway.

Now you want to vote him for other reasons and I'm a o k with that.

wait DYL is saying he has a scanning ability? I missed that part.

Sorry, I'm mixing up all the claims here. Between. Weird roles and replaces I am having a hell of a time keeping track of things.
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Sultan, your post comes off scummy because dyl was close to being lynched and was trying to protect his scanning role, if you are going to die you don't get your night action. If you reveal said night action then don't get lynched you are now the eater of all roleblocks.

Nothing about dyls claiming was bad or scummy in anyway.

Now you want to vote him for other reasons and I'm a o k with that.
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Johnbobb posted...

##unvote
##Vote: SultanOfSlam

100% sure on this

Based on that previous post alone I'm full on board with this thought.
And I'm also now doubting a dyl lynch...

But this also means I have to discount what Ffnut posted earlier in the game which led me to believe he was town.

Goddamn replaces...
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benjamin3740 posted...

1. HanOfTheNekos
2. (FFnut) SultanofSlam
3. DarkYoungLink
4. Obelisk
5. Neablis
6. Johnbob
7. Turbopuns2
8. KanzarisKelshin
9. (Zyxyz0) IfGodCouldDie
10. Htaed
11. (Greengravy) Sheep
12. Forceful_Dragon
13. Doopliss_Power
14. Corrik

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Thank you Harrich
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turbopuns2 posted...

Obellisk posted...

who did Han Han-Gut day one?

dyl

Well I'm not saying we should rely on the fates but still...
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Real quick (slammed at work but just remembered this from Saturday night)

When leaving dinner on Saturday and heading to the Movies, the car next to me in the parking lot had the license plate "H7N GUT". I should have taken a picture but I didn't.

So it begs the question, who did Han Han-Gut day one?
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Me
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Puns, it's like when you say you are going to bed but then see another post and want to respond.

I mean if I'm not genuine for wanting to stop thinking about it but then can't help continue talking about it ok.
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