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Tony knew he had 50% to live.

I would wager that Ben, Tange, and Death aren't Scum based on being in that 1 scum scenario.

Interesting point - Tony knew Crescent had a 100% chance to live as X1.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

I am very stressed right now, I will try to be back late tonight.

Yeah, this evening fucking took a lot out of me. I'm gonna do my best to be ready to go next afternoon but man tonight has been fucked.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Grand Kirby posted...

It's not "Marvel".

It's "Mahvel".

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

And Unscannable implies immunity to scans. I believe that combined with a scum watcher made them sure town had a tracker.

Or a cop, or Town watcher, or prosty, or detective
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

benjamin3740 posted...

Han meta'd an emojii, so he's probably town because only one of pure heart metas an emojii.

On a serious note, that was the reason he first called Tony scum. He votes Plum and then calls Tony Scum #2 and expresses that he thinks Tony made a check-in post, and notes that he's meta'ing the emojii.

No, I DIDNT meta the emoji. I even said I didn't!

I thought he was Scum because his check-in post was pointless to make as Town.

Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I dont think Unscannable implies Tracker/Watcher specifically, but yeah. I follow you.

If Zach killed plum, he already knows he didnt get scanned doing it, since he wasn't revealed D2. And nobody countered Tony, so he wouldn't be afraid of a watch on Corrik.

Unless he did get scanned and Puns is getting cute by harassing Leo.

A track to a body is not 100% damning.

It is damning by the time Zach claimed, though
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Death iso is deserved. He's really good at slinking by as either alignment. I still felt he was Town early on, but I'll revisit it. Currently leaning Zach still, tho.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I dont think Unscannable implies Tracker/Watcher specifically, but yeah. I follow you.

If Zach killed plum, he already knows he didnt get scanned doing it, since he wasn't revealed D2. And nobody countered Tony, so he wouldn't be afraid of a watch on Corrik.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

ColZach posted...

Your reads are still like 50/50 dude.

That's like, really fucking good though.

benjamin3740 posted...

On the contrary, I remember Han having some action from Red at least, yeah?

I don't remember for sure. It was Scare who I thought was suspising me out of nowhere, but he flipped not Scum. I feel like red did say something my direction, but would need to look it up.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Even if scum had a kill on Corrik that was stopped, Zach wouldn't have been the one who sent it.

I don't follow?

The remaining scum has to be the one who killed Plum. Scum kept their night actions minimal, and Puns kept insisting Leo killed Plum. Scum probably figured Puns actually was tracker. They would then not know who he actually targeted.

Does Zach, as the one who killed Plum, jump out for no reason and claim targeting Corrik?

I guess the question is - do they ACTUALLY believe puns is Tracker, or just believe he bluffed?

And last Scum didnt HAVE to kill Plum... janitor doesn't always have to kill, but they still have to target. So that's a solid point, thank you.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

thank you red happy birthday
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Zach - Tange - Death - Crescent/Ben - FD is probably my updated order now, though.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

The correct answer was: Han never named a #2 at all~

HanOfTheNekos posted...

If I were to do a priority order right now, it would be: Zach - Death - Crescent - FD (with Ben and Tange fitting in AFTER I consider if it makes sense for Sheep to be shot over Puns if there is no Godfather).

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Laying down for bed. Last call!
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ColZach posted...

Your reads are still like 50/50 dude.

That's like, really fucking good though.

benjamin3740 posted...

On the contrary, I remember Han having some action from Red at least, yeah?

I don't remember for sure. It was Scare who I thought was suspising me out of nowhere, but he flipped not Scum. I feel like red did say something my direction, but would need to look it up.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Even if scum had a kill on Corrik that was stopped, Zach wouldn't have been the one who sent it.

I don't follow?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Zach's been saying "I am town or a sociopath"

That's like, THE definition of WIFOM.

Is it really that different from what Ben posted?

About what?

And if Zach is last Scum, he HAS to use that defense. What else does he have?

Remember - we have confirmed BG, EBG, Lawyer, Target Bomb, protection Jack, Jailkeeper, and Tracker.

Vig is a little much.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ColZach posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

ColZach posted...

And Im obviously town

No.

You dont get to say that.

So its Death or Han if Ben is also scanned

Yes I do. Do you forget the part where I called out Tony from his first post? Do you forget the part where i pushed the MZero plan to happen yesterday, even with you almost fucking it up?

Oh. And HOW ARE MY READS NOW, ZACH? Didn't I tell you I've caught Scum based on their first post more than games you've played? Add another to that list.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

Zach's been saying "I am town or a sociopath"

That's like, THE definition of WIFOM.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ColZach posted...

And Im obviously town

No.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

True
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

LeonhartFour posted...

I doubt anyone from Overwatch would do that well here without a rally.

Probably pretty strong tho. Maybe not elite, but better than 'omg it's sgt johnson from halo'
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

The fact that Tony took so long to vote to begin with was borderline claiming scum anyway.

I know.

We were on the same page, yesterday.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

And you did say I'd "Tunnel you with abandon" for being mean to me, which... I don't do. I may get emotional but in the long run it does not interfere with my reads.

But let's just drop this and move on.

I was partially trying to goad you, and my original draft of the post said "because she's not better than that", but then I was like 'o shit that's really mean' and I decided not to.

Anyway, I really need to get to bed real soon, so if you have any specific things you want to ask me before I'm off, please go ahead.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

Then when MZero said he had Tony/Puns there wasn't a point, we knew how that day was going.

Yeah, but it wouldn't have gone if nobody organized it. I wanted puns to take lead because he was more Town in the eyes of us all than I am, but he preferred to vote Ben so somebody had to push us all into actually figuring out what the plan was.

Hell, I would have accepted FD's plan if people just decided on it. But nobody wanted to decide on anything.

Seriously though, when we actually managed to get the plan off AND Tony died as Scum as a result, I literally screamed in victory. Lot of pride for me, there.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

Admittedly I did kind of go off the rails at the end, that was due to factors that had nothing to do with the game. Tony was the one playing the garbage about me playing a victim, all I did was call him scum.

Yeah, and I was trying to get you to stop to make sure that the plan happened without Tony stalling out on it.

benjamin3740 posted...

Fair. At least the second part. I would say that you are not yet confirmed town either, so the arguments of how accurate you are also have no effect. Obviously though if you town then I will be able to concede at end game that you had the best reads.

I am not confirmed Town at all. The only person who should be considered as such right now is FD, and that's only because Lawyer is a broken role in the hands of Scum.

Zach played less than Tange yesterday. Zach came in at the end to throw a wrench into our MZero plan. Zach's entire participation in yesterday was saying "i'm still confirmed town".

the ONLY reason I have an ounce of hesitation on Zach is because he played a hell of a lot better as Scum in his first game... but that was with puns coaching him. Red, Zam, Tony, Dumey, Leo? Out of all of those, the only I would trust to help right now is Leo, and he's probably checked out. The only dead Scum who isn't would be Tony, and mayyyyyybe Dumey, and neither of them help Zach survive in this scenario.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

=Crescent-Moon posted...

Um... What you've said about me is patently false going by my history, even as far back as my very first game where I was a wreck all game.

What have I said that is patently false about you?

Zara and Ulti were being disgusting, sexist pigs and aggressively trying to push me into quitting the game outright. I correctly town read both of them and on the crucial day 4 I was one of the killer swing votes to kill Dowolf over Ulti.

So don't even try to accuse me of that kind of play. I was after Tony that hard because I was sure he was scum.

I don't know what game that is you're referring to. I don't care. I believe that people would be sexist to you, and I feel like I'm judging you right now for being emotional, which is rude of me and I'm sorry, especially since I'm being hypocritical because I'm being emotional right now.

Anyway, I believe you that you were sure Tony was Scum. And to be clear, I think you're Town. If I were to do a priority order right now, it would be: Zach - Death - Crescent - FD (with Ben and Tange fitting in AFTER I consider if it makes sense for Sheep to be shot over Puns if there is no Godfather).

I mean, already, it does. Sheep finds out that Tony is Scum. Puns finds out that Tony can target puns without killing him. So killing Sheep ahead of Puns makes sense independent of Godfather possiblity.

GIvmme a minute.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

benjamin3740 posted...

>_> How serious is this?

And look, I am not usually the one to go all "Hey I get credit for this lynch". In fact I;ve never done it before. But this time I will come out and say that I pointed it out and went after Tony for it first. I also think I argued a lot with Puns who was really the only person calling Tony town. So uhh...yeah that's why I read this statement as a little fake

I mean, I've been drinking and really anxious and it's my birthday, so I'm pretty emotional. Especially since I fucking NAILED Tony D1, and then out of nowhere, Crescent is being all prissy like a poodle and 'o woe is me, tony was meen to me han must be scummmm'. And yes, I realize that being mean to Crescent means she'll tunnel me without abandon, but maybe sometimes she's better than that.

I have to get to bed and this is making me angry and that's going to interfere with that.

Anyway, Ben, not to be rude, but you've been on the backburner in terms of "influential Town". Even with your inno scan, you've acted in Scummy ways. I think you're Town based on the way you approached yesterday, but even if you were one of, or THE, first person to say Tony was Scum, it did not influence me. It probably didn't influence anybody.

But, and just to be clear, Tony's death wasn't my credit. It was 70% MZero, 20% puns, and 10% the rest of us who made the MZero plan happen. I even said it yesterday, without you guys, you included Ben, that plan might not have gone off.

What I'm taking credit for is catching Tony D1. If he didn't counterclaim Watcher and take down a Scumbuddy in the process, I would've stuck on him :\
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

Um... Like you were the only one?

This literally doesn't matter. You agreed yourself - you were a mess yesterday. And you were. You were making it REALLY FUCKING HARD to get something pro-town to happen, because you just HAD to have a pissing contest with someone we thought was Scum, but YOU were enabling them to stall.

So shut your mouth.

benjamin3740 posted...

And no one asked you not to be on. You were doing most of the planning for who was on and in what order. So why did you say that you were asked not to?

I thought I was! If you saw nothing, then I guess I was wrong.

What happened was that Tange got on the lynch, and you did as well. You and Tange both were not part of my original plan. Death was, but Death had left as well.

That meant that, with Tony and Puns having to join the lynch, only one other person COULD. I would have if requested, but Tony specifically requested Crescent. And I would've preferred Zach as X1 anyway.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

The problem was Puns for some asinine reason kept thinking Tony was town despite it making no sense whatsoever for him to be, nothing more.

Yeah. And SOMEBODY had to push puns into considering that Tony might be Scum and MZero would let us know.

DoubleTangicide posted...

4. ColZach: he has an innocent scan on him. Im willing to believe hes town

Tange... Zach doesn't have an innocent scan. He claimed vig shot that didn't work.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent-Moon posted...

Occam's Razor said Tony was scum yesterday

Yeah, I know. I was saying that since puns claimed and I actually caught on to what he said.

Glad people listened to me, too! If I wasn't around, Tony wouldn't be dead right now xD

I'm in the middle of a game, and have to go to bed soon, but Zach is probably the last Scum. Ben was too all-in on the MZero plan from the beginning, and... well, Tange is still considerable, but the last Scum is probably going to flip Jack, so unless they're Jack Godfather, Tange is probbbbbably clear. FD is clear.

Still, gotta consider, if no Godfather is in game, does it make sense for them to kill Sheep ahead of Puns? Does Puns being alive keep Tony alive that much?

Last Scum is in Death, Crescent, Zach. Death has been helpful. Crescent has seemed Town for most of the game until she went full-tilt yesterday, and has still seemed Town through that even though not helpful.

Zach is probably the last Scum.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Let this be a lesson to this community.

If I saw someone is Scum based on their first post... they are Scum.

B-)
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Ok wait.

Ever since Snake made it, everyone said "Simon Belmont would be the second Konami character, even though we want Alucard".
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

A lot of things I've played as soundtrack songs during dnd sessions.

Leekspin.

There's a Persona Q song... Light the Fire or something?
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Overwatch
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

You should rate my second team :)
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Corrik, as center-right, you're supposed to say "someone had sex and regretted it later, so they claimed assault". You gotta stick to the bit!
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Happy birthday everyone!
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Crescent, you weren't that active.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Thanks guys.

And Tony, Plum wasn't a read. I just joined to get people to help me put pressure on you. It was you and Zach, on D1, that I gutread.

Puns, this plan was supposed to have our number 1 read on X1, and I'm actually pretty upset that it is Crescent there. So I agree - we didn't want you to be X1.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Now Tony, if you do pop Scum, remember to be annoyed at me for gutting you on my first post of the game.

If you aren't Scum, then bye Crescent (or surprise Scum puns?!)

Man, I just poured a glass of wine. A lot of immediate stress was taken away, but I still have to drive 40 minute to meet with my principal tomorrow for probably 20, then idk. I'm pissed. Tomorrow's my birthday too, and I'm gonna be doing dumb work the whole day.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

turbopuns2 posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I would like to thank Death and Ben for being incredibly helpful in this process. MZero and Tange, too.

For the record - my original plan was Me, Death, Crescent, and Zach as the 4 X's, since we are unscanned. But circumstance kinda ended up with us getting the two inno scans on it.

This sounds like a scum victory speech

MZero is actually Scum Atomic Bomb! I win in endgame tomorrow! huehue

can you fucking imagine? xD

I am honestly just really relieved that this happened. I was sure Tony was going to stall until the end and never hop on it, and just force us to lynch him.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I'll be honest, I expected MZero to come out after his claim and say "hey guys, I was lying about the way my claim worked, I'm just a regular target bomb. I wanted to put that out there to see who didn't go with the plan to prove that they were Scum, and catch them!"

But we kinda veered away from using MZero yesterday.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

turbopuns2 posted...

I wonder...has there ever been a game where lynching a bomb helped town?

never seen one, myself.

I think I've seen a game where final 3 had a bomb, but I don't remember if that's true. I wasn't alive in that final 3.

I would like to thank Death and Ben for being incredibly helpful in this process. MZero and Tange, too.

For the record - my original plan was Me, Death, Crescent, and Zach as the 4 X's, since we are unscanned. But circumstance kinda ended up with us getting the two inno scans on it.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Oh my God I have been more stressed than ever in the past two hours.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

turbopuns2 posted...

please everybody keep in mind earlier han said he was going to hop on the bomb and then ultimately he didn't

I was asked not to
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Go puns.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

turbopuns2 posted...

inb4 FD busts in with a huge objection

He better not.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Tony, please vote.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Tony, you got what you wanted.

Tange, please stay on MZero.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Never mind, zach unvoted.

Tony and puns now
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Ben or tange unvote please.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ColZach posted...

This game has become a barrage of people complaining and people taking things way too personally.

I asked in #67 when I should vote and nobody said shit, so Im not sorry

Unvote please.
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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic