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TopicJames Gunn made a movie about an evil Superman ripoff
streamofthesky
12/08/18 9:08:24 PM
#6
Looks pretty awesome!

I liked to joke that Code Geass was "like if Lex Luthor was the protagonist, using his wits to defeat a vastly more powerful Superman antagonist" (well, the combined might of the entire Brittainian military more so than just one dude)
But....it's be awesome to actually have that as a movie premise. Or just go the horror movie route, like the trailer is implying, whatever...

Seeing as "Clark" is an illegal alien, I really hope at some point in the movie, a random person mutters, "I told ya we shoulda built that wall."
:D

The joke being that the wall would've done nothing to stop "Clark"'s arrival and the person saying such is a moron for thinking it'd do anything. Just like....
TopicThis 24 y/o Blonde Girl STABBED her RACIST DAD to Death in Connecticut!!!
streamofthesky
12/07/18 5:07:59 PM
#15
Revelation34 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Unprovoked attack.

Versus self defense, when the other person physically tries to harm you first, or presents sufficient verbal threats / aggressiveness that you feel endangered.


That's not what the word provoked means.

Ok, you literally quoted me saying "unprovoked attack", not "unprovoked."

At this point it's clear you're either being intentionally dense or really are that dense, either way I'm done explaining it to you.
TopicThis 24 y/o Blonde Girl STABBED her RACIST DAD to Death in Connecticut!!!
streamofthesky
12/07/18 4:17:03 PM
#12
Revelation34 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Someone using a racial slur doesn't give another person a right to murder him.


You said it was unprovoked though.

Unprovoked attack.

Versus self defense, when the other person physically tries to harm you first, or presents sufficient verbal threats / aggressiveness that you feel endangered.
TopicThis 24 y/o Blonde Girl STABBED her RACIST DAD to Death in Connecticut!!!
streamofthesky
12/07/18 3:57:09 PM
#9
Revelation34 posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Quahzier? Really?


What about it?

streamofthesky posted...
She murdered her dad in an unprovoked attack, probably lied about the situation to police (such as him being in a drunken rage...until firm toxicology reports corroborate...which even then just b/c he was drunk doesn't mean he raged..., I'm not going to assume the murderer's honesty), then hid the body.

She should get life in prison. But she's a white woman and a mother. She'll get 5-8 years before she's out, at most.


Racism is an unprovoked attack now?

Someone using a racial slur doesn't give another person a right to murder him.
TopicSo now that it's December, what's your Game of the Year (GotY)?
streamofthesky
12/06/18 11:02:19 PM
#43
Radiant Historia Perfect Chronology
TopicWhat's for supper/dinner/evening sustenance?
streamofthesky
12/06/18 6:27:08 PM
#135
Salmon teriyaki stir fry w/ broccoli, mushrooms, pineapple, and bamboo shoots with jasmine rice.
TopicGamestop is in the red. $488 million loss.
streamofthesky
12/06/18 6:24:35 PM
#160
HelIWithoutSin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
HelIWithoutSin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Could that be because its a collectors item possibly?


I'm assuming you're asking if it's because it's specifically a collector's edition. In this case, yes, but there are plenty, plenty, plenty, of non-collector's edition games that are worth a lot more sealed than opened.

LinkPizza posted...
If Im buying a game to play, Im going to open it regardless. Also, I at that point rather have an opened one if theres that much difference in price and the only difference is one is new and opened, and the other is new and sealed...


Of course you're going to open it if you're going to play it. But, what if you bought the game brand new at launch and got an opened copy, and for whatever reason, never got around to playing it? I bet you'd wish you got a sealed copy instead. If you were interested in getting the game now just to play, of course you wouldn't get a sealed copy just to ruin it. That'd be silly.

Sure. But that also wouldnt happen. I open it before getting home in some cases. And there wouldn't be a game I dont get around to playing. I will play it. Normally, the same day. So, no. I would want a sealed copy. Another reason it wouldnt matter is because I dont sell my games. Ever. So, a sealed copy would be useless. And if I somehow had a game that I didnt get around to playing (which again has never and will never happen, physically, at least), when I found it, the first thing I would do is open and play it.


That's great, but I think you're missing the point of the hypothetical.

Your hypothetical is ridiculous.

Even when I buy games I don't plan to play for a long time (it happens...got like 12-15 early this year and I still have 5 of them left to play), I ALWAYS open the game when I get home and pop it in, to make sure the game will load and has no immediate issues, before the mfg. warranty expires on it.

I don't buy games to put them on a display shelf. I buy games to play games. Everyone (aside from you, apparently) buys games to play them.
TopicThese are my ten favorite stand up comedians. Which of my favorites is yours?
streamofthesky
12/05/18 8:04:36 PM
#12
Demetri Martin is easily my 2nd fave on that list and it's a big gap to #3 and on, but I gotta go w/ Carlin.

One of the best of all time, if not the best.
TopicWould you ever get your girl a cubic zirconia engagement ring?
streamofthesky
12/05/18 2:49:03 PM
#19
DoubleOSnake posted...
arne't the fake diamonds so good now it takes like a microscope to tell them apart?

They're so good that the jewelry industry had to lobby for laws to be passed that there be an indication on the industrial diamond to denote that it was created in a lab. So they wouldn't flood the market and lower prices for "real" diamonds.
TopicLooks like tumblr is banning all porn in about 2 weeks
streamofthesky
12/05/18 1:55:53 PM
#50
pionear posted...
streamofthesky posted...
So, how can videos be saved from tumblr to one's computer?

Just an unrelated query...


Well, not sure about PC/desktop, but there are apps for the Mobile you can do it with.

gotta search them yourself on Google Play. (don't know about iOS)

I discovered a method last night, actually.

Did it w/ firefox, the tutorial was for Chrome (minor adjustments were needed to the steps), not sure if it works for other browsers.

Basically, you open the video post in its own tab, then before hitting play, do a right click on the screen, choose "Inspect Element" and click on the network tab. Play the video until you get a mp4 or other video file extension in the list (you can sort by Type to make it easier if it's a long list), then right click on that row and choose to open in a new tab. The tab should now have just the video and nothing else, and you can right click on it and save the video.

Sadly I just don't have the time to archive many videos, didn't think to save shortcuts to most of them or anything and the tumblr shut down is too soon.

But hey, I learned something...
TopicWhopper from Burger King is 1 cent but only if you order it from Mcdonald's.
streamofthesky
12/05/18 1:51:27 PM
#19
ninja_lootz posted...
I mean how much does a Whopper actually cost to make?

Probably not much, but still way more than 1 cent.

And this promotion's going on for a whole week.
TopicWhopper from Burger King is 1 cent but only if you order it from Mcdonald's.
streamofthesky
12/05/18 1:35:41 PM
#16
Seems dumb, and they're going to lose a ton of money on this for no real long term gain.

Ah, marketing

Shame I don't have a smart phone to take advantage, but perhaps it's a good thing for my health.
TopicDisgraced former NBC Anchor Billy Bush arrives at Bush Memorial in SNEAKERS!!!
streamofthesky
12/05/18 10:53:47 AM
#10
faramir77 posted...
I like how Billy Bush is disgraced for just being in the same vehicle when "grab them by the pussy" was said, but meanwhile the guy who actually said it is now the President of the United States of America.

Thank you! I've often thought the same thing, what a fucked up country this is.

Dude who was just with the guy who said it is awful and doesn't even deserve to be a pointless entertainment interviewer.
Dude who actually said it? He should be leader of the free world!
TopicThis 24 y/o Blonde Girl STABBED her RACIST DAD to Death in Connecticut!!!
streamofthesky
12/05/18 10:24:52 AM
#7
She murdered her dad in an unprovoked attack, probably lied about the situation to police (such as him being in a drunken rage...until firm toxicology reports corroborate...which even then just b/c he was drunk doesn't mean he raged..., I'm not going to assume the murderer's honesty), then hid the body.

She should get life in prison. But she's a white woman and a mother. She'll get 5-8 years before she's out, at most.
TopicDisgraced former NBC Anchor Billy Bush arrives at Bush Memorial in SNEAKERS!!!
streamofthesky
12/04/18 10:20:17 PM
#3
mrduckbear posted...
..and he wasn't wearing a TIE either!!

Fuck ties.

Good for him not wearing one of those pointless nooses.
Topicin the morning, do you brush your teeth before or after breakfast/coffee?
streamofthesky
12/04/18 6:58:28 PM
#8
I brush my teeth at night before bed

And I don't drink coffee
TopicWould you ever get your girl a cubic zirconia engagement ring?
streamofthesky
12/04/18 5:44:10 PM
#3
Why would you when they make perfectly good industrial diamonds now?

Not only is it cheaper than a "natural" diamond, but if she gets upset at you about it, you can ask her how much blood she requires of her diamonds and guilt her into dropping the issue. :p
Topic14 y/o White Kid in Colorado wears a NAZI Uniform and gets PUNCHED OUT!!!
streamofthesky
12/04/18 2:53:44 AM
#13
Punching a nazi isn't wrong, it's heroic.

The parents should be scrutinized. This kid probably didn't just grow up to idolize hitler all on his own. It was likely taught to him by his parents.
TopicGamestop is in the red. $488 million loss.
streamofthesky
12/03/18 6:10:11 PM
#82
I've never had a problem w/ Gamestop, and I've shopped at them in at least 4 states and at a few different locations in a couple of those states.

Got my last two consoles (PS4 and Switch) from them b/c they had the best deals.

They sell "new" games that have been opened for display use, but it's the last copy they have and at least in the one or two instances they sold such to me, they told me up front it was the display copy and opened when I called to ask if they had the game in stock.

They're not usually the cheapest place to buy games, same for any brick and mortar store. And their used game buy back prices are generally low, though I never sell my games back so I don't care about that (nor is anyone forcing you to sell it back to them, either).

I'm sure some stores have had bad employees and some people have had bad experiences, but I just never understood the massive hatred towards this company.
TopicLooks like tumblr is banning all porn in about 2 weeks
streamofthesky
12/03/18 5:32:43 PM
#29
Since Tumblr was founded in 2007, it has largely turned a blind eye to adult content. The company has tried to shield it from public view through Safe Mode and more stringent search filters. But in recent months and under the ownership of Verizons Oath unit it began to consider removing content more aggressively. Weve given serious thought to who we want to be to our community moving forward, CEO Jeff DOnofrio says in a blog post. Weve realized that in order to continue to fulfill our promise and place in culture, especially as it evolves, we must change.


Killing net neutrality (Ajit Pai, of Verizon)
Killing AOL Instant Messenger
And now, killing tumblr

All within a year (hell the first two were literally 24 hours apart)

So, Verizon is basically evil incarnate. And people give EA shit...
TopicLooks like tumblr is banning all porn in about 2 weeks
streamofthesky
12/03/18 5:27:14 PM
#27
So, how can videos be saved from tumblr to one's computer?

Just an unrelated query...
TopicI kind of miss the times when account suicides were good.
streamofthesky
12/01/18 2:01:49 PM
#6
darcandkharg31 posted...
Should've showed like a beheading or something, that'd be dope, kind of, idk.

Um....no. WTF?!
TopicRIP George HW Bush dies at 94
streamofthesky
12/01/18 1:50:23 PM
#38
Well, that's getting reported...
TopicWhat kind of a sentence do you think that female dallas police officer should
streamofthesky
12/01/18 1:27:29 PM
#20
Death penalty.

This is Texas, don't see why they should have a problem executing such a heinous murderer where there's no doubt about whether or not she's the one who did it.

Oh, but she's female, white, and a cop. And the victim is male and black.

..She'll get 5 years at most... :(
TopicRIP George HW Bush dies at 94
streamofthesky
12/01/18 1:25:00 PM
#32
RIP to the last decent Republican president we ever had.

Says it all that the current one is so bad, that people pine for the "good old days" of the torturer-in-chief.
TopicRepublican Congressman LOSER wants Trump appointed judge to OVERTURN ELECTION!!!
streamofthesky
11/29/18 6:13:02 PM
#8
BlackScythe0 posted...
Ranked voting is one of the superior voting systems isn't it?

I can see why a republican would be against good ideas.

It's far better than First Past The Post (the system used by most of the US).

I'd rather have a system where people can just vote for as many candidates as they want, and the one w/ the most votes wins. But ranked voting is a decent compromise.
TopicThe almighty immortal filth topic - Part **** if I know, these have run for ages
streamofthesky
11/27/18 5:33:09 PM
#10
darcandkharg31 posted...
DeltaBladeX posted...
And another dump of Asians for Allstar and his fellow perverts
https://imgur.com/a/9UWIWUi

The ones with their tits down to their belly buttons are fucking disgusting.

Bigger does not always equal better.

Agreed, but the latter half of them were pretty good, in general.
Topichow do you pronounce 'coupon'
streamofthesky
11/27/18 5:25:10 PM
#7
koo-pon

AnnoyedCops posted...
"Koopin"

Just kidding, but some people say it like that.

I say it like that sometimes as a joke, to annoy my wife. Got that pronunciation from a Ron White stand up bit.
TopicBlack Friday/Cyber Monday/Sales Thread
streamofthesky
11/26/18 5:38:49 PM
#22
Well apparently some facebook deals thing is letting people get the switch for only $180.

Now I feel kind of silly jumping at the $300 MK8 and $50 gift card bundle, considering I don't care about racing games and it's a digital code only.
But I don't trust doing financial stuff through facebook, so I guess it's the best deal I could've gotten.

$180 though.... Half freaking price just about, that's crazy.
TopicGames are literally 100 GB these days
streamofthesky
11/26/18 2:45:51 AM
#29
Cruddy_horse posted...
keyblader1985 posted...
Cruddy_horse posted...
This is the company whose current gen console only comes with 32GB, forcing you to either go physical or buy a memory card.

ITT: "Buy a bigger hard drive for your console; problem solved"

Also ITT: "Switch requires an SD card which is noticeably cheaper than hard drives; Nintendo sucks"


Newsflash: Nobody wants to buy additional accessories for their console in order to play comfortably.

And like hell they're cheaper, I can get a 2TB hard drive for double the price of a 128GB SD card.

And the Nintendo game requires 1/10 of the storage space as the PS4 game, so...
TopicGames are literally 100 GB these days
streamofthesky
11/26/18 1:42:19 AM
#22
Yellow posted...
faramir77 posted...
I just bought the digital version of Smash Ultimate the other day. It's only 13.6GB.

Nintendo lives in 2008

"Nintendo does things right"

Yellow: "Yeah I agree, they're totally a decade behind the times!"
TopicWould you prefer to live in michigan or ohio?
streamofthesky
11/25/18 5:11:40 PM
#10
Preferably neither, but if I had to choose, OH.

Michigan's one of the few states i definitely never want to live in. Horrible cold weather, and some really fucking stupid laws. I know every state has some, but not nearly as many, nor as enforced.
TopicDid you know that American Schools let kids off for a WEEK on THANKSGIVING???
streamofthesky
11/24/18 4:19:11 PM
#56
The bottom line is, the more snow days you have, the less summer break you get. If 5 are alotted and 7 are used, you stay 2 days later, for the other situation.

I understand the need for snow days. Going to school in those conditions is dangerous or sometimes just impossible. I don't hate them or anything. They're necessary.
I just never understood why other kids would wish for snow so we'd get a snow day. It's a dumb thing to want to happen.
TopicDid you know that American Schools let kids off for a WEEK on THANKSGIVING???
streamofthesky
11/24/18 3:41:26 PM
#54
LinkPizza posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Super_Thug44 posted...
mrduckbear posted...
isn't that the stupidest thing you ever heard?


What's so stupid about getting a week off from school?

It's a zero-sum game. The school is required to be in session by state law for a certain number of days.

I'd rather have more days in June or August than in Nov, personally.
Same reason I never understood why other kids would be so happy about snow days. Like...you know we just lost another bright warm day in June to be stuck at home in cold snowy weather, right?

Maybe that varies. My state and schools on it had snow days set aside. Basically, it we had 5 snow days for the year, that means that if we didn't take more days than that, we didnt have to make up any. And during my senior year, we had tried to not have any extra snow days, but they did. Instead of adding an extra day, they took it from next years days. But as seniors, it didnt matter to me or my friends...

But its a northern state. So, snow days were pretty much inevitable. The reason we were low out senior year was because we had to use them. And it hadnt nowed bad enough to be required. And we used them, but then a blizzard happened. We still went to school for a few days before they decided to take a couple days off...

If you have 5 snow days built into the schedule, and you only use 4, you shouldn't be staying that extra day. But your school sounds like it had some poor planning going on, so maybe for you that was the case.

Anyway, when it comes to holiday breaks such as this topic, those are known in advance and definitely factored into the school schedule. More holiday time in Nov or around Christmas = less summer break.
No thanks.
TopicDid you know that American Schools let kids off for a WEEK on THANKSGIVING???
streamofthesky
11/24/18 3:32:55 PM
#51
Super_Thug44 posted...
mrduckbear posted...
isn't that the stupidest thing you ever heard?


What's so stupid about getting a week off from school?

It's a zero-sum game. The school is required to be in session by state law for a certain number of days.

I'd rather have more days in June or August than in Nov, personally.
Same reason I never understood why other kids would be so happy about snow days. Like...you know we just lost another bright warm day in June to be stuck at home in cold snowy weather, right?
TopicIs horizon Zeron Dawn any good?
streamofthesky
11/24/18 1:43:12 PM
#24
It's a decent enough game. The combat mechanics work fine and all.

But damn is it a dull game. I put in 75 hours to complete it, and I seriously think at least 20 of those were spent hiding in the grass.
It's a hunting game. Maybe that seems obvious to you, but it's marketed as an action/RPG, when it's really more about stealthing between cover (which is pretty much always tall grass, or smoke when indoors) and either luring foes over for a stealth melee kill or sniping with your bow. Whether it's machines, animals, people...you're hunting. If you like that sort of gameplay, you'll like HZD. If like me, you don't...it will be a trudge.
Also, the camera is super zoomed in and is especially terrible during indoor segments, which take up a ton of the main story towards the end. Navigating the indoor areas was annoying and tedious. Plus in said areas, you usually have a ton of data points to look for with your focus, and when using your focus you move like a snail.

I didn't have much fun playing the game, the only part I really enjoyed was the final story mission where the stealth largely went out the window and you're just going full ham on everything in straight up combat.

Also, if you've played Breath of the Wild before this, you're going to constantly be let down by the lack of climbing and exploring options in this game. Climbing has set "paths" you need to follow from point A to B to C, etc...

I do recommend getting to the gate town between the starting region and the desert region as soon as you can, and grabbing...i think it was a fox skin?... along the way, so you can buy the golden fast travel pack, for infinite fast travel. Most merchants in the desert region offer said pack, that's just the first location you'll be able to buy it.
TopicI love cranberry sauce and i dont care who knows it
streamofthesky
11/23/18 8:17:09 PM
#21
SusanGreenEyes posted...
I only like the cranberry jelly that comes out of the can in one solid piece with the can lines of demarcation still on them

Heck yeah!

That just means that the can has "sealed in" the flavor.
TopicI love cranberry sauce and i dont care who knows it
streamofthesky
11/23/18 6:06:11 PM
#18
I love cranberry sauce, too.

From the can, like nature intended! It wouldn't be Thanksgiving w/o a slice from the cranberry loaf.
TopicDo you think there will be Black Friday DEATHS this year???
streamofthesky
11/23/18 3:27:31 AM
#12
Between the ever-expanding number of hours that Black "Friday" lasts, the continued rise of online shopping, and the brutally cold temps in a lot of areas of the U.S. this Thanksgiving, I figure there will actually be a lot less people out at the stores than last year (on a people-per-hour basis).

I'm sure there will still be some violence, but the sheer drop in mass of bodies means it should be a lot less violent than usual.

Just my hypothesis.
TopicBlack Friday/Cyber Monday/Sales Thread
streamofthesky
11/23/18 3:18:51 AM
#11
Zeus posted...
mastermix3000 posted...
Switch only has $299 with Mario Kart 8 Deluxe which was like

So rn nothing


Or a Gamestop deal where you get a $50 GC, which is also somewhat meh.

Seemed like about the best we'd get, so I went for that. There's also been a Newegg Ebay deal for $260 for just the Switch, but I don't trust Ebay...

Besides the Switch bundle, I got Xenoblade 2 for $35 and a new laptop for my wife (both on Amazon).

Need to find some Switch accessories next I guess. Screen protector, SD card, and an actual controller or two.
TopicDid you know that American Schools let kids off for a WEEK on THANKSGIVING???
streamofthesky
11/23/18 2:35:35 AM
#6
Lokarin posted...
LinkPizza posted...
You act like this is new or something...


It's new to me

Same. We only got Thursday and Friday off. Wednesday might be an earlier release or half day at best.
TopicOregon Black Man who PUNCHED and KILLED a RACIST White Man is NOT CHARGED!!!
streamofthesky
11/22/18 12:09:19 AM
#12
ASlaveObeys posted...
self defense doesn't mean the other guy punches you first. If you are verbally threatened and you can prove it you technically could claim self defense effectively.

It can, but you're in a lot murkier waters there, and it has to be threats where you actually fear for your safety, not just, "Go away, [racial slur]!"
If the other dude physically attacks you first, and your response is not grossly disproportionate (in this case, sounds like he just responded with the one punch), then you're pretty much in the clear for sure.
TopicDo you like mayonnaise? Thanksgiving Eve Edition
streamofthesky
11/21/18 10:12:20 PM
#4
I like mayonnaise more than I like the TC.

I don't like mayonnaise.
TopicOregon Black Man who PUNCHED and KILLED a RACIST White Man is NOT CHARGED!!!
streamofthesky
11/21/18 9:52:04 PM
#7
Was he justified to punch the now-dead guy?

For hurling racist insults? No.
For egging him on to fight? Not really.
For throwing food and drink at him? Questionable, but I'm leaning towards yes.
For trying to punch him first? Abso-freaking-lutely.
TopicThis 25 y/o Utah NINJA GIRL is charged with RAPE of a 17 y/o Girl!!!
streamofthesky
11/21/18 4:01:59 PM
#15
Kyuubi4269 posted...
streamofthesky posted...
Actual ninjas are like the prophet Mohamed. No one really knows what they look like, we can only rely on artistic renderings of what we think they may look like. And those artists will typically turn up dead for their efforts.

Apart from, you know, the last few actual ninjas alive who practice ninjutsu.

Clearly you are blind to REAL ULTIMATE POWER
TopicThis 25 y/o Utah NINJA GIRL is charged with RAPE of a 17 y/o Girl!!!
streamofthesky
11/21/18 2:19:01 AM
#6
Ok, first of all... If you've ever seen a "ninja", then what you saw was obviously not a ninja.

Actual ninjas are like the prophet Mohamed. No one really knows what they look like, we can only rely on artistic renderings of what we think they may look like. And those artists will typically turn up dead for their efforts.

Full Throttle posted...
The women wore black ninja suits and brought knives, stun gun, a tourniquet and syringes and a chemical to knock someone out.

One of the men in the home was able to subdue the women and took off their masks...Luckily, that man had a SAMURAI SWORD to counter them.

:D

That's just...excellent
TopicWhat's for supper/dinner/evening sustenance?
streamofthesky
11/20/18 10:32:50 PM
#78
Turkey burger with a side of steamed broccoli and cauliflower
TopicPoll for DnD players: The Tarrasque
streamofthesky
11/20/18 10:30:48 PM
#9
Never literally fought the Tarrasque, but in our high level gestalt game where we were stupidly overpowered, we fought some sort of "Dire T-Rex" that the DM later said was Tarrasque stats w/o the needing a wish to kill it part, re-skinned, and buffed w/ spellcasting abilities.

It was basically a "random encounter" on the way to the next dungeon, and it got the jump on us, so I had to spend the first round curing the other PC from a debilitating status, which also ate up his first turn.

We killed it by the end of round 3, and moved on.

We were pretty stupidly overpowered for a two person party....
TopicStock market has lost all it's gains for the year
streamofthesky
11/20/18 5:36:54 PM
#3
Clearly they need some more trickle down economics. That'll fix everything!
TopicShould non smokers get more vacation time over smokers?
streamofthesky
11/18/18 1:26:50 PM
#42
rogerskg1979 posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Non-smokers hate boners for smokers is hilarious.


It is well deserved. Their secondhand smoke affects non-smokers. Plus smokers cause insurance premiums to increase for everyone.

I can understand people who smoked in the 1950s and 60s since the health issues associated with smoking weren't well known back then, but it makes no sense why anyone would want to smoke in today's world when the health issues are well known. You have to be an incredibly stupid person to smoke today.

Not just second hand smoke.

Third hand smoke is also an issue that's still being researched.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/05/09/third-hand-smoke-is-widespread-and-may-be-dangerous-mounting-evidence-shows/

First came doctors warnings about cigarettes. Then came discoveries about the danger of secondhand smoke. Now, a growing number of scientists are raising the alarm about thirdhand smoke residual chemicals left on indoor surfaces by tobacco smoke.

Mounting research has shown such potentially hazardous residue can be absorbed through the skin, ingested and inhaled months and even years after the smoke has dissipated.

One study published this year showed thirdhand smoke increased risk of lung cancer in mice. Another study published last year showed an increased risk of liver damage and diabetes in mice. A third study published this year focused on casinos and showed that six months after smoking was banned, heavy smoke residue remained on the walls and carpet.

The latest study, published Wednesday in the journal Science Advances, shows how tobacco smoke from outdoor air can seep into a nonsmoking classroom and coat its surfaces, and how those hazardous chemicals often become airborne again and circulate throughout buildings via central air-conditioning systems.

It shows that just because youre in a nonsmoking environment, it doesnt mean you arent exposed to tobacco, said Peter DeCarlo, an atmospheric chemist at Drexel University in Philadelphia and lead author of the study. That Uber car you jump into, the hotel room you stay in, even a classroom where smoking hasnt been allowed for decades: These are places where you are often exposed to a lot more than you expect.
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