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TopicAnisoptera only got warned for that topic?
Frolex
12/10/18 3:11:45 AM
#73
i'd say you tried, but then we'd both be lying
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TopicAnisoptera only got warned for that topic?
Frolex
12/10/18 3:05:54 AM
#71
Zygoptera posted...
Who says she was comparing them to monkeys? Maybe she was just making a Planet of the Apes reference since the black bars look like the monolith.


Yeah, i'm sure your intent to was to make a planet of the apes reference by posting a picture from 2001: A Space Odyssey. Yep, definitely not a post-hoc lie you made up so hastily and transparently you couldn't even get the fucking movie right. Bravo
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TopicAnisoptera only got warned for that topic?
Frolex
12/10/18 2:21:01 AM
#56
-Third time (at least) in lest than a month a user is modded for making racist posts dehumanizing people of color

"Let's take 10 karma from him"

Bravo allen bravo
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TopicFirst video game that comes to mind where the main char starts off 'nude'?
Frolex
12/09/18 5:23:22 PM
#14
TopicGOG employee fired over transphobic tweet now works with right-wing gaming site
Frolex
12/09/18 12:38:41 AM
#19
Darmik posted...
However, Eurogamers report fails to mention that Halliday is working with Jeremy TheQuartering Hambly, a right-wing YouTuber, on a new website focused on all games, no politics.


This is the guy that harrassed a bunch of women in the MTG community then had a meltdown about not being able to see a cartoon 16 year olds tits in the new He-Man show right?
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Topicits funny that people still make fun of me for having bowel issues
Frolex
12/08/18 9:51:12 PM
#8
TC tried to deny he admitted shitting the bed at first, now that that failed and everyone does nothing but call him a bed shitter, he's trying this strategy. Let's see how it goes.
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TopicLMAO @ Paz's spirit in Smash Bros >_> *MGSV spoilers*
Frolex
12/08/18 9:37:51 PM
#35
TopicInterracial relationship
Frolex
12/08/18 11:26:10 AM
#7
gets a whole lot weirder when you remember TC's obsession with interracial relationships is motivated by alt-right propaganda
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Topicwtf only in america
Frolex
12/08/18 4:15:47 AM
#4
TopicIs it moddable to type porn websites without the .com in here?
Frolex
12/05/18 4:52:59 AM
#2
TopicOf course tumblr are killing adult content.
Frolex
12/04/18 8:42:12 AM
#12
clearaflagrantj posted...
smoke_break posted...
DarkRoast posted...
Liberals of 1990: Sexuality and pornography is freedom! Stop those backward-ass hillbillies from calling it sin!

Liberals of 2020: Sexuality and pornography are oppression!

I believe tumblr was dropped from a platform because of its porn content. In other words, it's a money thing and has absolutely nothing to do with liberals.

Exactly.

It's a capitalist/conservative action


This has already been pointed out to CoffeeBeanz in every one of the topics she posts this hot take in. But CoffeeBeanz gon do what CoffeBeanz gon do
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TopicThere... updated my avatar since people were complaining
Frolex
12/04/18 7:08:06 AM
#2
Did you get it from another site that hosts far right propaganda?
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Topic2015 - The year of the Steven Universe Sabotage and the great meltdown of Tumblr
Frolex
12/04/18 6:20:01 AM
#3
when you know no one is going to watch your video so you bump your topic every three minutes to keep your topic from dying instead
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TopicReminder that George HW Bush pardoned 5 officials related to the Iran scandal
Frolex
12/04/18 2:11:03 AM
#25
-Criticize a war criminal's actions before their death
"lol why are we talking about this this is old news we've already moved on"

-Criticize a war criminal's actions after their death
"the body's not even cold yet, why can't you liherals be C I V I L"
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TopicLongest Youtube video you watched?
Frolex
12/03/18 9:07:46 PM
#35
Sex Survey Results by LasagnaCat

probably can't link it because of ToS but
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TopicAdult content removed from Craigslist, Patreon, now Tumblr
Frolex
12/03/18 3:59:01 PM
#28
Vol2tex posted...
They also shut down that anon site.


If we're talking about the same site, there's absolutely no comparison here, and I don't know why thought it was valid. That site was only used for people to post revenge porn and pirated content. It wasn't in any way a legitimate platform actually used by creators to promote their content. It's an objectively good thing that it got shut down.
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TopicRacism is a relatively new concept that has no factual basis - Reddit on JonTron
Frolex
12/03/18 2:37:27 PM
#124
MC_BatCommander posted...
Why are people still going nuts on JonTron a whole year later? He came out pretty quickly after that whole debacle and clearly regretted his statements, he was on the H3 podcast recently and restated his regret for what he said.

He has stayed out of that kind of discussion entirely since then as well, as far as I know. How much does he have to do before people stop holding it against him?


https://imgur.com/QriJbkr
he was still retweeting white nationalist propaganda as of a few days ago. why are people always so desperate to outright lie just to defend racists?
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Topic$50,000, but your desktop AND phone background changes to...
Frolex
12/02/18 6:39:04 AM
#2
TopicRehabilitated man given second chance kills woman on the day of his release
Frolex
12/02/18 3:34:48 AM
#19
Antifar posted...
To use the impacts of our system as some sort of argument against a different system doesn't make much sense to me.


It's coffeebeanz, what do you expect?
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TopicWhy does every Journalist on Earth have to be a raging SJW. (Netflix related)
Frolex
11/30/18 8:42:34 AM
#2
TopicKurt Cobain: Most rap is so misogynist that I can't even deal with it
Frolex
11/30/18 5:11:07 AM
#27
lol, was post 24 SMAL necrobumping this on his new alt? pathetic
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/30/18 1:46:49 AM
#88
Darmik posted...
Content ID claims are earlier in the process.


and both content ID and manual DMCA takedown counter claims lead the same place when an uploader invokes their right to fair use. why is this so hard for you?
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/30/18 1:44:05 AM
#86
Darmik posted...
Aren't those relevant to what you're claiming?


They are. Because again, it demonstrates the legal responsibility associated with responding to a copyright counter claim falls on the claimant, not anyone else.
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/30/18 1:34:17 AM
#84
Darmik posted...

Section 512 under Title 2 seems to be covering YouTube's liability as well considering their process.

Section G on Page 24 seems to specifically cover content providers taking down copyright claims due to 'good faith' which I'm assuming covers YouTube. But it also seems to specifically apply to removing material.


That covers youtube's reponsibility in responding to takedown notices made by claimaints

Darmik posted...
Likewise Page 25 seems to require a significant amount of more information than what a content ID claim looks like.


That section covers the content required for filing a counter claim against a claimant
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/30/18 12:55:54 AM
#82
Darmik posted...
Frolex posted...
Yes, they are. Just because they haven't been filed in a courthouse doesn't mean they don't legally constitute a copyright claim


It hasn't been filed in the courts or with an attorney. I'm curious how you would log a legal counter claim in this instance? How do you do a legal counter claim against a notice processed by the website you're hosting your content on?

Like where's a source? Where's the precedent? Where's anything?

Frolex posted...
who do you think bears the legal risk of issuing a fradulent takedown notice? youtube?


I'm not the one claiming there's a legal risk for content ID claims made by copyright holders on YouTube through their website.

Takedown notices issued by lawyers are a completely different matter unless you can prove otherwise.


https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-105publ304/pdf/PLAW-105publ304.pdf
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17

Here's the entire text of US law relating to DMCA and copyright claims . Go ahead and pour through that and tell me where it says claims can only be issued by a court or an attorney
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/30/18 12:42:24 AM
#80
Darmik posted...
But these aren't legal takedown notices they're content claims made within YouTube.


Yes, they are. Just because they haven't been filed in a courthouse doesn't mean they don't legally constitute a copyright claim

Darmik posted...
I don't know if there's a legal counter claim risks to those and you haven't sourced anything that claims there is.


who do you think bears the legal risk of issuing a fradulent takedown notice? youtube?
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TopicHagerstown PD conspired with building super to evict Dawkins.
Frolex
11/30/18 12:26:07 AM
#9
Outer_space posted...
soulunison2 posted...
Omg hes masking his voice lmao

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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/30/18 12:24:57 AM
#77
Darmik posted...
There's plenty on YouTube about your legal rights as both a user and copyright holder.

I don't see anything about content ID claims being potentially fraudulent due to fair use. I'm sure if that was a risk it would be stated on there. That would be a pretty big legal risk for any copyright holder using their content ID claim system.


Youtube doesn't have to explain potential consequences of fraudulent copyright claims to claimants in abiding by their takedown requests. And yes, by issuing a fraudulent takedown notice, you do expose yourself to the legal risk associated with a counter claim, it's just a risk most corporations don't consider significant
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/30/18 12:17:41 AM
#74
Darmik posted...
Where does it say that on YouTube's website?


I really don't understand why you're having so much trouble understanding Youtube doesn't define copyright law. Or if you're just intentionally taking this argument in circles because you can't actually defend Nintendo's behavior
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/30/18 12:12:27 AM
#71
Darmik posted...
Aren't Content claims automatically picked up thanks to YouTube algorithms? Meanwhile copyright strikes are legal requests sent to YouTube. Surely there would be a difference here? I don't know how you can say the companies are acting fraudulent if they haven't progressed far enough to be legal takedowns.


No, both manual and automatic content ID claims are both subject to Fair Use guidelines. If a company drops it's automated claim once a user invokes their right to Fair Use, that's one issue. But Ninentdo didn't.

Darmik posted...


They were songs played during the wedding in the recording. Currently still has 11 copyright claims on the video. It was an unlisted video. These labels all blocked monetization on the video (which was fine by me anyway).

One of them muted the song. Uptown Funk by Bruno Mars. I had to edit that out to get the sound back lol

I never really saw my rights being infringed upon here. Just a part of life using YouTube.


Whether or not you feel your rights were infringed upon in a case where fair use may not have been a legitimate defense is totally irrelevant to the fact that Nintendo was issuing claims on videos that did clearly fall with in Fair Use guidelines. You're taking your argument nowhere
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 11:40:23 PM
#66
Darmik posted...

Are you talking about Content ID claims?
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6013276

Or copyright strikes?
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2814000

or both?


I believe the link i posted earlier referred to content ID claims, but ultimately both come about as response to a copyright holder filing a claim against a video

Darmik posted...
Which Nintendo claims were fraudulent?

Any claims against videos that fall under fair use protection

Darmik posted...
Was the company who sent a claim to me because of my song in my wedding video a fraudulent claim?


Depends on the circumstances. If it was just the entirety of the song overlaid over footage of your wedding, you probably don't have much of a leg to stand on with a Fair Use defense. If it was critical, ,educational or somehow otherwise transformative of the work in question, that's a different case.
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 11:13:50 PM
#64
Darmik posted...

From what I understand that you're trying to claim that your legal rights are being infringed upon if your uploaded video is muted, deleted or monetized by a third party and YouTube still sides with them if you claim fair use. Which is what happened with Nintendo previously to this announcement. That's what I'm asking about. From what I understand at this point it is still within YouTube's ballpark. Not the courts or law.


And your understanding is wrong, which you continually refuse to accept. Nintendo is the company that ultimately bears the legal responsibility for issuing fraudulent claims. Youtube is merely abiding by their claims, they are not the arbiters of the what constitutes fair use.
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 10:59:41 PM
#61
Darmik posted...
I'm talking about your legal rights as an individual uploading content on YouTube. Not about your rights as a user on YouTube dictated by Google.


Once again, youtube is not the entity that defines Fair Use or any other form of copyright law
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 10:43:06 PM
#59
Darmik posted...
Isn't that their internal dispute system? That's not what I was referring to when we're talking about legal rights.


It's how the process of how you file counter claims youtube on the basis fair use. I'm sure it's not what you're talking about because you seemingly have no idea what rights people have in regards to copyright law.
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 9:47:13 PM
#57
Darmik posted...
But I'm assuming at this point YouTube has already made the decision for you so what does this accomplish?


No, youtube is not the one who makes the decision whether to uphold the copyright claim.

Darmik posted...
So what are you referring to?


If you're asking me to outline the process of filing a counter claim on youtube, you can read google's guide on it

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 9:32:22 PM
#54
Darmik posted...
How are you supposed to legally represent yourself for a video YouTube isn't obligated to host for you? That's the part you're not getting to.


Same way you represent yourself in any legal matter. Or you hire a lawyer.

Darmik posted...

As far as I know aren't going to the courts for this. They're issuing takedown notices on YouTube. YouTube obeys them. How is this going against your legal rights? You have a legal right to upload content on YouTube?


Ultimately you will have to take it court if your file a counter claim and the copyright holder rejects your claim, which is where you would have defend your right to Fair Use.

Darmik posted...
Counter claims filed in court?


You don't file counter claims within the court.
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 9:15:19 PM
#50
Darmik posted...
Is there an example of a case where this has happened?


What, where someone has filed a counter claim without being legally represented by youtube? It's what happens in the vast majority of cases where someone on youtube files a counter claim
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 9:13:06 PM
#49
Darmik posted...
That's about as far as your 'legal right' takes you. YouTube might use your video as an example for a specific case or takedown notice. It's up to them.


Youtube refusing liability in legally representing you in copyright disputes doesn't not mean you are no longer protected by fair use. I know you really love defending Nintendo no matter what dumb shit they do, but this is one are you just clearly aren't equipped to talk about.
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 9:05:05 PM
#46
Darmik posted...
But the film review industry generally has some sort of publisher or company they're working for who handles all of that stuff for them.


And those publishers still don't need to obtain consent from film distributors to use their footage in film reviews

Darmik posted...
If it goes to court you're not really going to do as an individual right?


Yes, you would be.

Darmik posted...
They'd need to defend you as well because they're hosting that content on your behalf.


No, they wouldn't. If you're filing a counter against a copyright claim, youtube has no responsibility to represent you in your case. Like I said before, you have no understanding of how any of this works
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 8:53:35 PM
#42
Tyranthraxus posted...
There's a well defined limit to how much video you're allowed to use for referential purposes


No, there literally isn't. There are no established legal guidelines or court rulings that have set a specific universal time limit for how many minutes of footage you're allowed to use in work before it violates Fair Use
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 8:44:56 PM
#40
DarkRoast posted...
Believe it or not, but that actually isn't true. It's just that most companies don't mind the free publicity.


No, as usual, you're wrong. Film review would have stop existing as an industry would have stopped existing a long time ago if companies could get bad reviews pulled because they used 10 seconds of footage from a movie
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TopicBethesda misled players with a Collector's Edition bag of the wrong material.
Frolex
11/29/18 1:46:23 PM
#49
Vyrulisse posted...
I don't care about this really except that I think if you honestly expect what you get to match the images used for marketing with these things knowing the history of them for the most part across games then it's a you problem.


Stop equivocating, and try to argue honestly for once in your life. This isn't about "an image used for marketing", they blatantly, objectively lied about the physical contents of an item they sold. That's false advertising, full stop. It's not consumers responsibility to eat the cost of blatantly illegal business practices. It's why we have any form consumer protection laws in the first place, much as I'm sure it hurts your butt to think that your favorite game company might face consequences for their practices and not have a court respond with "lawl just don't buy it hurr".
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TopicBethesda misled players with a Collector's Edition bag of the wrong material.
Frolex
11/29/18 1:24:30 PM
#33
Vyrulisse posted...
Everyone is acting like this is new


No, no one believes fraud or false advertising are new. Honestly, it's kind of pathetic the defenses fanboys jump to these days when it comes to gaming companies. It's not even denial that Bethesda is incapable of clearing a very low bar anymore, now it just doesn't matter that they can't
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TopicI always wonder what type of person watches youtube personalities
Frolex
11/29/18 2:05:56 AM
#3
A lot of it is children and young teenagers
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 1:54:26 AM
#32
Darmik posted...
That's all I ever meant. These policies only apply to a few specific sites.


No, they apply to youtube as well. It's just the the imbalance of power between users and corporations means that the latter are free to abuse copyright law without real threat of consequence
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TopicWell, Red Dead Online is complete shit
Frolex
11/29/18 1:51:52 AM
#29
Johnny_Nutcase posted...

Well isn't that just asking too much.


In take-two's case, it kind of is
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TopicWell, Red Dead Online is complete shit
Frolex
11/29/18 1:25:29 AM
#25
Vyrulisse posted...
Remember when people were saying RDR Online wouldn't nickle and dime them like GTAO does? I member


I'm pretty sure most people just said they were confident the single player wouldn't have microtransactions, which did end up being true.
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TopicJordan Peterson: Nazi apologist
Frolex
11/29/18 1:19:45 AM
#57
JBP stans are so pathetic lol. He's not telling it like it is, or being "nuanced". It's historical revisionism and apologia, pure and simple. Hitler didn't rail against the jews because that was got the loudest reactions from the german people. Hitler and the ideology of the Nazi party was born of the complete and total eradication of those deemed inferior. The was the beginning and their end game from the very start, it was the core of their beliefs. Trying to equivocate and paint the nazis as opportunists picking the most efficient target is equal parts pathetic and ignorant.
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TopicNintendo cancels Nintendo Creator Program. Eases up on YouTube restrictions
Frolex
11/29/18 1:13:13 AM
#30
Darmik posted...
I don't think there is any hardline stance on what constitutes as Fair Use for a video game. That's what makes it complicated. These laws haven't really been updated for the internet. From what I understand Nintendo used to scan YouTube videos for their content and then monetize the videos for themselves unless you signed an agreement with them to share the profit. How does fair use fit into all of that?


That would be a copyright claim. Rights holders have no right to a share of revenue from a video that contains content that falls under fair use

Darmik posted...
But again as far as I understand unless you've gained some sort of bargaining power you're completely under the whim of YouTube. You're uploading videos onto their service at the end of the day. If you can't even keep a video uploaded there how are you supposed to take it to the courts and claim fair use? What legal rights are you expecting YouTube to enforce for you outside of claiming copyrights for when people steal your content on the site?

The way I see it you should work under the same assumption for any other social media site. That you have no power and you own fuck all if you upload stuff on there without a legal agreement.


Now you're trying to make a practical argument rather than a legal one. Yes, youtube takes the path of least resistance by automatically siding with claimants in copyright disputes and dismissing counter claims , and most private citizens have effectively no legal recourse against falsely issued takedown notices or copyright claims for major corporations on youtube or other social media sites. That doesn't mean we should accept it when corporations abuse copyright law or congratulate corporations for saying they are going to ease up on that abuse, nor should we not demand more equitable arbitration of copyright claims
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