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Infinite 2003 posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

southcoast09 posted...

Its just more anti white racism.

For like the third time its only targeted at dominated cultures which happens to white in America.

In another country its very easy for another race to culturally appropriate

It's always excuses like this. Nobody buys it

Its not an excuse if its the definition of the term its not even race bound, it just has to be a bigger culture taking from a smaller ones

Cal12 posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away!

If you want to be offended that badly, you could perform the same mental gymnastics if a white person eats Chinese food or watches kung fu.

It sounds like you guys dont understand it at a core principle.

It isnt cultural apporation without a misuse of property.

People have issues with Miley because what she did was make herself a characterization and stereotype of black culture to sell records, then completely distances herself from it once she was done

Miley did a little bit of everything to be honest. It was more hyper sexual than anything else. She didnt appropriate anything to be honest.

She made multiple songs about rap, weed, sex, diss artist,went to bet awards then rejected all of it and sent several shots about how crude the same kind of hip hop she was just making was.

It was clearly appropriation
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southcoast09 posted...

Its just more anti white racism.

For like the third time its only targeted at dominated cultures which happens to white in America.

In another country its very easy for another race to culturally appropriate
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tennisdude818 posted...

SJWs: She used another culture her own gain and just tossed it away!

If you want to be offended that badly, you could perform the same mental gymnastics if a white person eats Chinese food or watches kung fu.

It sounds like you guys dont understand it at a core principle.

It isnt cultural apporation without a misuse of property.

People have issues with Miley because what she did was make herself a characterization and stereotype of black culture to sell records, then completely distances herself from it once she was done
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No, as far as Ive been taught appropriation is all incompassing.
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Asherlee10 posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

Youre slightly misinformed while your definition of cultural apporation is right, thats not generally what people complain about, its more accurate to say people are complaining about cultural misapporation, which hes kinda spot on about

So cultural apporation as a term is neither negative nor positive but is used mainly in the negative sense

I think a response to this would be in #15

I feel like youre still stuck on people misusing the term, when theyre not theyre just not using the best term

Cultural apporation incompases both diffusion and mispporation (generally good, and bad)

So they cant be using the wrong term by using apporation
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TheVipaGTS posted...

Like most things its been hijacked and ruined by idiots over time. At the end of the day people just want their culture recognized when its being used elsewhere. Don't take something from one culture and act like it was always yours.

Like, if a fashion company in America started to make Saris and they talked about it like "I just got this idea to use this fabric in this way and just threw it all together!"...that wouldn't be cool because it refuses to acknowledge the people who actually made it and the most likely place where that designer got the idea from.

Unfortunately these days people don't understand that and they take it to mean "you wore a dress from my culture you're a culture stealing bitch"...and that shit isn't cool.

I can see why people are like that though, you give someone an inch they take a mile. You shouldnt use something thats obviously exotic to you and not understand it
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Asherlee10 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

I agree with the OP. I have yet to hear a sound argument in favor of cultural appropriation. That Robblr or whatever guy has attempted so many times and it just makes him more racist, IMO.

1. Meh, I can see their point on some level.
Maybe cultural sensitivity is better wording.

2. Bad metaphor: What do you think the white American reaction would be if they introduced Jesus Christface Diapers, with big pictures of Jesus on the ass of the diaper?
Or if Japan had a surge in popularity of Bible Verse Toilet paper.
Or American flag/bill of rights fireworks that you set ablaze.
People would be upset.

3. It's not so much the melding of culture that's a bad thing, it's the degrading of views and idealogy that is important to people. Not assilimation but domination.
We've seen religious or cultural symbols and concepts that have rich histories and mean a lot to certain people turn into amusing jokes, tattoos and fashion items.
I mean if you want a sensationalized but accurate example look no further than the Swastika.

Adapting cultures and enjoying new things is a good idea. Splitting clothes ,food and idealogies by race or sex or creed is dumb. But you're lying if you claim you can't comprehend why it might upset people for the literally ignorant to turn what they see as important and degrade it into a whimiscal silliness or worse, spiteful anger.

I enumerated your post for reference.

1. Those would be two separate terms for a reason. Cultural sensitivity is being conscious of other people's cultural, isn't it? Cultural appropriation is the "adoption of the elements of a minority culture by members of the dominant culture."

2. I don't understand a thing you wrote here.

3. Right, but that's not what this is. That's disrespecting a cultural, which is not adopting the culture. The problem here is terminology. The terminology exists, so we should use it to separate all of these instances.

Youre slightly misinformed while your definition of cultural apporation is right, thats not generally what people complain about, its more accurate to say people are complaining about cultural misapporation, which hes kinda spot on about

So cultural apporation as a term is neither negative nor positive but is used mainly in the negative sense
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coinstarcad posted...

Some would argue that cultural appropriation is neutral but the intent behind using it can be good or bad.

Fallacia posted...

The idea of cultural appropriation as a negative is less about white people adopting things and more about white people being considered stylish or bold for adopting something while people of color are seen as thuggish or unprofessional for the same styles.

I would agree that anyone complaining about cultural appropriation simply because someone is using a style needs to chill a bit and stop blaming the people who are adopting that fashion, but the idea that society rewards or labels people differently is one that is definitely true. It's the double standard that is the real issue.

These two are pretty spot on

clearaflagrantj posted...

If white people didn't adopt elements of other people's cultures we'd be labeled nationalistic, egocentric

When minorities adopt other people's cultures it is celebrated (as it should be).

Cultural appropriation is just another cheap trick in the arsenal of the perpetual whiny victim.

Well thats because only the bigger culture can misappropriate and in most of the places its an issue, white people are the bigger culture

Also its not about taking on different aspects of a culture, its about taking on and warping the meaning of different aspects of culture
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Its too early to say, as its still super young but its off too a super strong start it does do a good job playing with the different shonen tropes
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Its kind of funny because all of his apprentices are being yes men on Twitter while all of his musical peers are challenging him as friends.

So to say he has no one around him trying to keep him in the straights and narrow is a little off
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Calling it deaths isnt even really accurate tbh, its more appropriate to say they got erased from existence or removed from reality
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Man I thought these would be good questions
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Kanyes been sounding like an idealized 21 year old white kid and its annoying as fuck as a fan.

The whole everyone has the same chance to be successful and If you worry about the past youre just hampering yourself has some truth to it.

But that says ignores the fact no one success is solely of the their own merit
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ImmortalityV posted...

Taylor Swift is sexy body

What body ?
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lilORANG posted...

Gaara was overrated af. Lee could have beat him if he didn't get duped by a dopey clone jutsu. Naruto did beat him.

Any of the jonin would have #rekt him if they really wanted to.

Actually no naruto only best Gaara cause he woke him back up before he fell into a deep sleep had he fallen all the way asleep jiraya probably would of been the only person able to beat him.

Hell most jonin wouldnt have been able to straight up beat half sleep gaara if they didnt know about waking him up
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Mal is basically showing his lack of naruto knowledge

The entire history of ninjas in naruto its only been 5 maybe 6 people you could consider gods

And its pretty safe to say its never been more than like 20 can single handily change the tide of a conflict ninja alive at time

Most ninja are actually weaker than boruto is now.

And Mal they made money as mercs cause the world was in constant conflict, as soon as they got a tech boom, the ninja profession started dying out.
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Also its a fucking reality tv show.

Thirdly thats not a good example because a lot of context was left out of what you said

And even If that is the case, that doesnt make you a better expert on whats racist to a minority than the minority. Sure they could be wrong that doesnt mean its to dismiss them or that theyre asking too much.

You posted one Vague example like this is why we dont trust people when they tell us stuff is offensive to them.

That again goes back to the lack of willingness to self evaluate
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ShippFFXI posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

ShippFFXI posted...

Sonicblack35 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

The only one you posted that was really unreasonable was the memes one and that superficial as hell

all of the ones he posted were batshit insane except for the religion one

1. Just because you cant see racism around you doesnt mean it's not happening. Trust people of colors assessment of a situation.

This one is fine too. There are times where you probably wouldn't realize you're making someone uncomfortable. It's not like they have to be aggressively shouting that you're being racist. A simple "hey, that's not really cool," is much more likely.

You're making me uncomfortable. I'm gay. I think this is homophobia. Do not tell me what is or is not homophobia, trust my expertise as a gay man to inform you.

Putting this in here right now before it gets modded for obvious sarcasm. This is obvious sarcasm to prove a point.

What I wrote is exactly the illogical crap that the article is pulling.

I'm loving white privilege these days:

White

Person
Receiving
Intelligent
Virtue
Integrity
Lessons
Every
Goddamned
Evening

The best way to get equality is always to berate the majority into submission by claiming your group knows better about everything than them. This has always worked out so well for every group that has done this in the past instead of those plebs who focused on honest discourse as well as being open to the idea that they may not be perfect themselves.

Im confused, if I say something that turns out to be homophobic and it offends you, you tell me that and explain why its homophobic.

Am I just supposed to say, I dont know as much about gay culture as you but Im sure youre wrong

I feel like people are more stuck up on the always trust minorities on whats racist, instead of realizing blacks people would have a better understanding of whats racist to them.

It comes back to not wanting to self evaluate no one here wants think thats a good point maybe I was being racist and rather just assume theyre right about something they dont personally experience

Because there comes a point where many minorities "play the card" and cheapen the word. That is why that argument is ignorant.

For example, and as trashy as it is, it's about Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Cast is entirely black women aside from one white woman. The white women's adult daughter had gone to the bathroom at Nene Leaks' house and took a video. There were roaches crawling around. Now, normally one would think this is just showing roaches in a very tacky manner. But no, roaches are now associated with poor people and the projects, so the mother is a racist for her daughter showing roaches in this black woman's mansion.

It isn't good enough to call it tacky bad behaviour since the girl was a guest at the house. Gotta dramatize it and call it racism.

That's the type of thing people are fed up with. Anything negative relating to black people or culture? Racism. Anything negative relating to Islam or parts of the middle east? Islamaphobia. Anything negative relating to gay people or culture? Homophobia.

That's what these types of articles push, and that's just not going to change anyone's mind.

Well did you ask why its racist or did you just go no, its not racist
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?
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JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

Lord_Theruss posted...

JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...

ImAppleJackFU posted...

17. Never try and tell a person of color what is or isn't racist.

Oh okay.

Because they will tell you before you even get a chance.

As someone that has worked intimately with African American communities, you're not entirely right.

As someone who was assaulted and threatened with a gun based on my non-existent perceived racism, you're not entirely wrong.

:/

Was it perceived or unintentional cause those are two different things
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ShippFFXI posted...

Sonicblack35 posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

The only one you posted that was really unreasonable was the memes one and that superficial as hell

all of the ones he posted were batshit insane except for the religion one

1. Just because you cant see racism around you doesnt mean it's not happening. Trust people of colors assessment of a situation.

This one is fine too. There are times where you probably wouldn't realize you're making someone uncomfortable. It's not like they have to be aggressively shouting that you're being racist. A simple "hey, that's not really cool," is much more likely.

You're making me uncomfortable. I'm gay. I think this is homophobia. Do not tell me what is or is not homophobia, trust my expertise as a gay man to inform you.

Putting this in here right now before it gets modded for obvious sarcasm. This is obvious sarcasm to prove a point.

What I wrote is exactly the illogical crap that the article is pulling.

I'm loving white privilege these days:

White

Person
Receiving
Intelligent
Virtue
Integrity
Lessons
Every
Goddamned
Evening

The best way to get equality is always to berate the majority into submission by claiming your group knows better about everything than them. This has always worked out so well for every group that has done this in the past instead of those plebs who focused on honest discourse as well as being open to the idea that they may not be perfect themselves.

Im confused, if I say something that turns out to be homophobic and it offends you, you tell me that and explain why its homophobic.

Am I just supposed to say, I dont know as much about gay culture as you but Im sure youre wrong

I feel like people are more stuck up on the always trust minorities on whats racist, instead of realizing blacks people would have a better understanding of whats racist to them.

It comes back to not wanting to self evaluate no one here wants think thats a good point maybe I was being racist and rather just assume theyre right about something they dont personally experience
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Ce really just hates black people lmao

First off its not okay for anyone to be racist.

But racism born from a single ethnicity culture is generally born from pure ignorance and stereotypes from other cultures.

Most white people live in multi cultural countries and grew up around black people, so they should fucking know better.
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FLUFFYGERM posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

The only one you posted that was really unreasonable was the memes one and that superficial as hell

all of the ones he posted were batshit insane

Asking you to not question someones racial or religious background is batshit insane ?

Honestly sounds more like youre completely unwilling to self evaluate, or look at anything from another perspective then your own
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The only one you posted that was really unreasonable was the memes one and that superficial as hell
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kuwab0 posted...

nevershine posted...

Gheb posted...

Freschetta

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ITs so weird CE hates vapormaxes
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JustMyOpinion posted...

Looks like something dads who yell at their children in public would have worn in the 90s.

Its an airmax so only the cool dads would of done that.

DirkDiggles posted...

My grandma got those same shoes to powerwalk in the mall with.

No she doesnt

Flockaveli posted...

Bro is that a Vapormax 98 Plus? Ive never seen that before. Thought they only Vaped the 97s. I love the color way. Dont know any fits for it though.

Vapormax plus which is way better then the vapormax 97 which I think are completely ass
Its because they always sell out instantly, I got super lucky with this pair its def the best colorway
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Half off retail too,
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My last pick up

Dont know when im wearing em considering I havent worn the other 10 pair I just bought yet
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Like these last three episodes have been amazing
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Dash_Harber posted...

gamepimp12 posted...

Shes not perfect then tbh

But serious answer its certain things that just wouldnt translate well being in a long term relationship with someone of another and I think that would be their only concerns

Do you come from a country that has some weird culture and is entirely your ethnicity? Because I'm pretty sure in places like America, even people of different races share a common culture with their neighbors.

No Im black, being black in America is different its specific things that you would have to be taught, and care to learn if youre not black or Afro Latina

Plus America has many cultures and while there is one American culture its many sub or counter cultures so youre wrong on that end too
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Shes not perfect then tbh

But serious answer its certain things that just wouldnt translate well being in a long term relationship with someone of another and I think that would be their only concerns
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Heres the best answer youre gonna get.

Because gender is a social structure, its as many as people have ideas or beliefs.

That being said its only 2 or max 3 that are widely accepted
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deupd_u posted...

Bitch thinks shes as good looking as Tomi. SMDH

I mean its not hard to be
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gamer167 posted...

Starbucks is racist because ONE of their 250,000 employees fucked up.

Moron logic.

actually its been least 2 incidents this week.

They denied a Blackman use of bathroom while giving the passcode to a whiteman
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I kinda hate Ce posting peoples twitters without knowing the person, vibehi is the twitted leader of the hoteps with are basically the black alt right, everything is racist to him.

I mean Starbucks has been pretty racist lately anyway but he did that to prove a point.
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bump again
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Bump
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CensorErik posted...

She's really good. I'm going to check out her other music now. Thanks for the intro, man.

I heard her music a bit before I saw what she looked like, and Im glad I did, Cept the bias away.

Shes primed to blow up this year, she was on Drakes last album and on the black panther album and just performed couchella yesterday.
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