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TopicTrump administration says transgender prisoners will be put with biological sex
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 3:47:36 PM
#38
This shows how badly we need prison reform.
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TopicRepublicans hoping to remove constitutional right with supreme court challenge
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 3:41:27 PM
#28
Solar_Crimson posted...
iClockwork posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
All of a sudden they dont care about the constitution...

Maintaining the sanctity of human life > a piece of paper

So, we can ban guns then, right?


This is actually hilarious because it shows a lot of people to be hypocrites. Not many people support both (or neither) abortion rights and gun rights.
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TopicRepublicans hoping to remove constitutional right with supreme court challenge
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 3:32:35 PM
#20
But there is no Constitutional right to have an abortion. That's just how the Supreme Court interpreted the Constitution in 1973. They could have interpreted it a different way and banned abortion or made the states decide.
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TopicMan attacked at Cheesecake Factory for wearing MAGA hat
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 3:24:08 PM
#25
Every article like this nowadays includes race, whether it's relevant or not.

https://www.indyweek.com/news/archives/2018/05/08/a-duke-university-vp-walked-into-the -campus-joe-van-gogh-heard-a-rap-song-demanded-that-the-employees-be-fired
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TopicRepublicans hoping to remove constitutional right with supreme court challenge
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 3:15:02 PM
#15
Yeah, don't challenge your own opinions.

That guy has a liberal bias, so of course he didn't include Roe v. Wade. But someone who leans more conservative might include Roe v. Wade, near the top even.

The point is that the Supreme Court is not an all-knowing body. It's just judges interpreting the constitution. One day the Supreme Court might very well overturn Roe v. Wade. Then what?
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TopicRobinson Cano suspended 80 games by MLB for using steriods
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 3:05:53 PM
#13
Yes he would have been.
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TopicRepublicans hoping to remove constitutional right with supreme court challenge
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 3:03:47 PM
#13
TheVipaGTS posted...
HypnoCoosh posted...
So people are saying that abortion is a constitutional right?

Yes. The SC used the constitution to determine if abortions would be protected by it. They decided it was.


https://blogs.findlaw.com/supreme_court/2015/10/13-worst-supreme-court-decisions-of-all-time.html
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TopicRepublicans hoping to remove constitutional right with supreme court challenge
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:57:48 PM
#8
There is no Constitutional right to have an abortion. The Supreme Court interpreted that way in the 70s.

People disagree with you about abortion, get over it.
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TopicWill you vote for Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:51:04 PM
#15
The parties haven't changed, the voters are becoming more extreme and authoritarian.
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TopicRobinson Cano suspended 80 games by MLB for using steriods
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:42:36 PM
#6
He tested positive for Furosemide, which is a diuretic used to treat edema (fluid build-up in the body)

But of course the hypocritical Hall of Fame voters won't let him in now.
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TopicWill you vote for Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:36:58 PM
#1
????? - Results (52 votes)
Yes
21.15% (11 votes)
11
Yes, but only if the Democratic candidate isn't good
5.77% (3 votes)
3
No
73.08% (38 votes)
38
?
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TopicCan a baker refuse to bake a MAGA cake for a customer?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:27:10 PM
#89
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays


Around 40% of the public still disapproves of it, fyi


Well that means most Americans are fine with it. And the % will increase as time goes on.

Remember that as recently as 2008, California voted to ban gay marriage in the state.
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TopicCan a baker refuse to bake a MAGA cake for a customer?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:22:46 PM
#85
But that's the reason why there is even an argument about this. If you asked a bakery to make a cake that says "Fuck You!", most of them will probable refuse. If a baker who doesn't like Donald Trump refuses to make a pro-Trump cake, that's fine too. Just go to another bakery.

A gay wedding is totally fine and most Americans agree with that nowadays. But apparently that baker didn't agree. Once again, this should have been a local issue where the bakery got boycotted enough that they had to change their ways.
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TopicCan a baker refuse to bake a MAGA cake for a customer?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:14:44 PM
#74
There's a difference between refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding and refusing to making a wedding cake for a gay customer.
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TopicCan a baker refuse to bake a MAGA cake for a customer?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:11:14 PM
#71
BTW with the original gay wedding cake case what was the interaction between the businesses and the customer? Were they both courteous or not?

Because that would change everything IMO. If they refused to make the cake but were courteous about it, they would be much more in the right.
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TopicMost atheists are actually antitheists
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:05:45 PM
#1
Meaning they hate God or the idea of a deity, and religion in general

Seems to be true on the internet at least
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TopicCan a baker refuse to bake a MAGA cake for a customer?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 2:02:25 PM
#55
The business should have made the gay wedding cake, but it's even more wrong that this case (has there been more than one of them?) turned into a big lawsuit that got the couple a ton of money.

This should have been a local thing where the business got boycotted enough that they had to change their ways - and the couple should have just went somewhere else.
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TopicWhy does america have such a fetish for Israel?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 1:43:45 PM
#36
Why do liberals hate Israel so much?

They aren't perfect but they are our main ally in that part of the world.
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Topicwhy are atheists such potty mouths?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 12:44:31 PM
#16
I never understood why gambling is considered immoral.

Money is an unholy thing to begin with. Why would God care if you gamble with it?
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TopicShould I get Papa Johns or Pizza Hut?
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 12:41:43 PM
#15
neither
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TopicThere is absolutely no reason to used a debit card over a credit card
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 12:39:39 PM
#19
If you wanted, you could literally treat a credit card as a debit card.

You could buy whatever, then go online and pay the balance every time you buy something.
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TopicPence: "More people believe in God now that Trump is president"
Damn_Underscore
05/15/18 11:57:11 AM
#103
Sayoria posted...
Christians show how easy they are to manipulate.


Too bad they can't achieve euphoric levels of intelligence like atheists
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TopicWhy does Golden State keep winning every series?
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:41:49 PM
#6
They're not that good where they should win every series easily.

There should be serious competition.
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TopicWhy does Golden State keep winning every series?
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:36:01 PM
#1
They're good but they're not that good
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TopicPretty messed up that GTA sells as much as it does
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:32:21 PM
#2
Also the last good one was released in 2004
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TopicI hope there's no afterlife
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:26:27 PM
#5
If there is no afterlife you can't rest. You'll just be nothing.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:22:52 PM
#137
FrenchCrunch posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Then why didn't he say "I think I'm right as a liberal"

"On the right side of history" literally means that people will remember you as being correct.

there are a lot of sentiments that can accurately be summed up as "feels like im on the right side of history"

what you are doing is ascribing meaning that he himself did not indicate

js


"On the right right of history" means something. A guy who volunteers a few hours a month to help homeless people is doing something good, but he's not on the right or wrong side of history.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:13:13 PM
#133
FrenchCrunch posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Yes, I think it's really smug.

You're basically saying that your opinion will forever be known as correct and disagreeing opinions will forever be known as wrong.

that seems like an extrapolation

what he is actually saying is that he feels he is on the right side of history


Then why didn't he say "I think I'm right as a liberal"

"On the right side of history" literally means that future generations will remember you as being correct.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:10:06 PM
#131
FrenchCrunch posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Oh, trust me, we all know we are smarter than you


I do, however, feel that Im on the right side of history as a liberal.


Smugness right here

is it smug to feel on the right side of history?


Yes, I think it's really smug.

You're basically saying that your opinion will forever be known as correct and disagreeing opinions will forever be known as wrong.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:07:35 PM
#128
suggestions from How to win friends and influence people

Give honest and sincere appreciation
Show respect for the other person's opinions. Never say "You're wrong."
Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view.
Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires.
Begin with praise and honest appreciation.
Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person.
Let the other person save face
Praise every improvement


Those are the ones I like/agree with. The other ones seem dishonest IMO.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 11:00:35 PM
#121
Oh, trust me, we all know we are smarter than you


I do, however, feel that Im on the right side of history as a liberal.


Smugness right here
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 8:22:46 PM
#89
Soviet_Poland posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
This article isn't bullshit.

Every time someone says all people who voted for Trump are racists you can see there is some truth to this article. And here's the other side: every time a conservative insults "liberal wusses" or something like that, you can see there is some truth to that idea that people need to stop feeling superior to others.


https://imgur.com/RNjYucE


What is the point of this?
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Topic26+ dead, 900+ injured in Palestine riots over Trump moving embassy to Jerusalem
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 8:20:47 PM
#172
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
Israel and Palestine should share Jerusalem.


So, what exactly do you mean they should share?


Did you read past the first sentence?
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 8:16:39 PM
#86
This article isn't bullshit.

Every time someone says all people who voted for Trump are racists you can see there is some truth to this article. And here's the other side: every time a conservative insults "liberal wusses" or something like that, you can see there is some truth to that idea that people need to stop feeling superior to others.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 8:07:39 PM
#78
ToadallyAwesome posted...
For the record in his post I found it funny he tries to not over generalize but in the second paragraph does just that. Cause every liberal everywhere has a holier than thou attitude...


what... the second paragraph is not separate from the first paragraph.

The problem is that this "holier than thou" attitude that these liberals have is very off-putting, and no matter how many times they shout "racist!" they're not going to get anyone on their side. In fact, they'll only drive people away. Among other things, this will lead to Donald Trump's reelection in 2020.

Is that better?
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 8:04:09 PM
#75
Who said that conservatives don't also act superior or people in general don't also act superior regardless of politics?

This article is about liberals. It talks about how liberals think of all Trump supports as bigots, about the recent "racist!" namecalling trend, and about other things that liberals do which are offputting to people. Overall, it talks about how this attitude will get Trump reelected.

The main argument in this topic is "conservatives do it too". That's not an argument. If anything it just shows that what he's saying is correct but incomplete.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 7:53:05 PM
#58
hollow_shrine posted...
That's why we're harder on liberalism with it's weak PR than we are on conservative hypocrisy, corruption, kleptocracy, lack of empathy, willful ignorance, racism, etc. We have expectations for one side we no longer have for the other.


u serious bro?

This is exactly what he's talking about.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 7:50:16 PM
#52
This article summarized IMO:

Some liberals treat people who disagree with them as inferiors. This matters because many of these liberals are celebrities or have influential positions and their words and opinions are heard by and matter to a lot of people.

The problem is that this "holier than thou" attitude is very off-putting, and no matter how many times you shout "racist!" you're not going to get anyone on your side. In fact, you'll only drive people away. Among other things, this will lead to Donald Trump's reelection in 2020.

So if you don't want that, change your ways.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 7:39:53 PM
#33
Lol with the reaction here I can only imagine how bad it is on Neogaf 2.0
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 7:34:49 PM
#27
Hexenherz posted...
Damn_Underscore posted...
So the argument against those three lines is "conservatives do it too"

ok

Well said.


thx
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 7:33:40 PM
#25
So the argument against those three lines is "conservatives do it too"

ok
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 7:29:07 PM
#20
And no one disagreeing actually read the article.
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TopicNYT op-ed: "Liberals, You're Not as Smart as You Think"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 7:27:02 PM
#17
Its one thing to police your own language and a very different one to police other peoples.


Liberals can act as if theyre not so certain and maybe actually not be so certain that bigotry motivates people who disagree with them on issues like immigration. Without sacrificing their principles, liberals can come across as more respectful of others. Self-righteousness is rarely attractive, and even more rarely rewarded.


Liberals are trapped in a self-reinforcing cycle. When they use their positions in American culture to lecture, judge and disdain, they push more people into an opposing coalition that liberals are increasingly prone to think of as deplorable. That only validates their own worst prejudices about the other America.


Well said.
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Topicthis is why I won't let my wife's son go to college
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 4:38:16 PM
#21
Just avoid humanities degrees and you should be fine
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TopicWill we immediately see changes to Net Neutrality being gone?
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 4:23:55 PM
#13
ISPs aren't going to ruin the internet or people won't use their internet service anymore
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TopicMain reason that Hillary lost?
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 4:18:33 PM
#30
chill02 posted...
trump got more electoral votes than she did


she won the popular vote though
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TopicDems are the ones fighting to save your internet
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 4:16:22 PM
#7
I would vote for this bill but I honestly don't think Net Neutrality even matters
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Topic26+ dead, 900+ injured in Palestine riots over Trump moving embassy to Jerusalem
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 4:12:31 PM
#159
Israel and Palestine should share Jerusalem. but both sides have to share. There's nothing wrong the US Embassy in Israel being in Jerusalem.

The Palestinians shouldn't be rioting over this and the Israelis shouldn't be shooting at them.
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TopicMain reason that Hillary lost?
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 3:47:45 PM
#14
Pokemon Go to the polls
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TopicPence: "More people believe in God now that Trump is president"
Damn_Underscore
05/14/18 3:44:04 PM
#72
Actually nevermind, I see why you don't like the statement "America is a Christian nation"

I thought you were saying Christianity is not compatible with freedom
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