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BCT: 31 - The pre-merge of this season is hard to watch due to its focus on over-the-top hostile characters, two of which get staged comeuppances, and that stains the rest of the game except for Malcolm managing to make things epic for a while. The finale is easily the worst in the series, with one of the most predictable winners ever and easily telegraphed events aside from Brenda owning Dawn in a fashion that makes both of them hard to like.

FBike: 32 - This season was entertaining to watch, but it simply doesn't hold up. Pretty much everynoe acted like idiots most of the time.

Illuminatus: 33 - No writeup

darkx: 33 - Like Redemption Island, this one is just the producers stroking themselves to everything they think is good about Survivor but that the fans hate - a robotic cast that allows an overrated strategic player to win? Check. Combining returning players with the most fodderific of newbies to stomp all over? Check. The few ACTUAL fan favorites among the returning players turning into petty, dramatic camera whores? Check. The most entertaining moment of the season was the most epic and genuinely righteous meltdown in Survivor history, and even that feels dirty because he is clearly an unstable person who should never have been out there in the first place. The result was one actual decent episode of Survivor, two additional episodes that were entertaining due to circumstance, and 11 episodes of obnoxious try-hards trying to outdo each other for screen time.

Inviso: 35 - It was a tough call whether to rank Caramoan second or third to last, but ultimately, the fact that it embodies so much of whats wrong with modern Survivor is what bumps it into the bottom two. For one, as much as I bitch about Micronesia, at least it cast MOSTLY top tier favorites, and cast MOSTLY interesting fans. Caramoan feels like they cast one or two winners, built the favorites tribe around them, and threw in a bunch of fodder that never should have made it through the casting process. A lot of the season feels self-aware, with certain characters having big moments that ultimately dont really matter since theyre showier than anything else. The winner edit is far too straight-forward to the point where it almost insults the viewers intelligence, and a bunch of end gamers get crapped on again and again by the edit, and later by the host. Seriously, Caramoans reunion may just be the most offensive reunion the show has ever produced, with 3/5 of the players in the finale getting ignored, and the entire pre-merge cast getting shunted off-stage. Honestly, Id put it as the worst season ever, if not for a dynamic post-merge in comparison to Redemption Islands dull slog. Second-worst will have to do instead.

YoRyan: 35 - astoundingly bad on all accounts. Casting, editing, challenges etc. Even their "big moments" are terrible. And of course Phillip is satan in human form
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#31: Caramoan
Average Ranking: 30.18

GTM: 23 - CGI Erik and CGI Brenda

DoctorBlind: 24 - Similar to other seasons with returning players, if my faves go out early or are given invisible edits for no reason despite making it far and having a large impact on the game, Im not going to enjoy myself. Also, Brandon Hantz is terrible.

Mana Sword: 28 - No writeup

eaed: 28 - I liked this season a lot more a few years ago after it first aired. It was so boring to start but as time progressed that merge made things exciting and while on the rewatch it is a lot more predictable in the real time I did not see everything coming and the Three Amigos move, and the Hold-Up Bro moments are much better in the real time. When they come out to nothing though it takes a lot of the wind out of the sails. Plus, then there is the whole Brandon Hantz thing and the Non-Jury not getting to be on stage that takes away from the season too.

Naye745: 30 - i'm happy with the winner, but this season had lots of problems. the entire fans tribe was a wash, Phillip and Brandon had way too much screen time (especially relative to the 5th and 6th place finishers!), and the one thing i remember most is Eddie's dog bar.
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Inviso's full writeup: 31 - I want to rank this above Cambodia out of spite for Cambodia ruining the franchise, but I just cant bring myself to do it. As much as I harp on Cambodia for being soulless and strategy-laden, at least it HAD strategy. Ghost Island is as soulless as Cambodia, but with a straight-forward boot order that, compounded by terrible editing, makes for the biggest slog Ive had to watch since the month of Worlds Apart hell. The pre-merge is DECENT, sure, but Id argue that theres only one really GOOD episode there, and of course its the one where the better tribe actually loses a challenge and gets to showcase their dynamics. Seriously, the imbalance if quality between the two tribes is amazing. I cant even root for the underdogs because theyre so boring. Anyway, the merge happens and all suspense dies. Its just episode after episode of the same people repeating the same thing over and over until we get a unique ending to the season that isnt worth having the edit be so piss poor.

eaed's full writeup: 31 - I kind of hate putting this here because at the end of the day it does have the broken twist, and the overall predictability factor / boringness in it. But the fact of the matter is that there were indeed fun moments like the first 4 episodes and then Dom/Wendell rivalry/bromance. And the fact that this season allowed me to watch a little less like a superfan and more like a casual because I watched it with my friend really helped. Also, someone needs to defend this poor season because I still dont get those people that are out here saying this doesnt even feel like survivor anymore because of the ending and uneven editing and lack of character talk. At the end of the day, Survivor has a job to do and to tell us the story that they want to tell and some characters arent offering up what YOU want out of them or what production needs out of them. For example, listening to RHAP Chelsea focused in her secret scenes primarily on the story being about her vs Wendell and the confessionals of the other players werent reflecting that. Now, that is no excuse not to show her at all. They should have found a way to get her/the others to talk about her more as a threat but at the end of the day without giving away the outcome of the season they had to do what they had to do. Honestly, people were just too hard on this season and the season didnt help itself by having one of the most dominating alliances in Survivor History.
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KujikawaRising posted...

I almost want to just post my list and be done with all this waiting...

By this point, I'm worried this thing might actually last 39 days. I'm only posting one per day right now, and missed yesterday completely.

I'll double up on a few days to try to get back into things.
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Is it just me, or are we running out of topic title ideas?
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Update time! (Inviso's and eaed's writeups were shortened to fit the character limit.)

#32: Ghost Island
Average Ranking: 30.27

Illuminatus: 19 - No writeup

GTM: 29 - kinda blah all around, great finale

Mana Sword: 29 - No writeup

DoctorBlind: 30 - Way too many twists, bad implementation of an idea with potential, too many spineless sheep, and terrible editing.

Inviso: 31 - The pre-merge is DECENT, sure, but Id argue that theres only one really GOOD episode there, and of course its the one where the better tribe actually loses a challenge and gets to showcase their dynamics. Seriously, the imbalance if quality between the two tribes is amazing. I cant even root for the underdogs because theyre so boring. Anyway, the merge happens and all suspense dies. Its just episode after episode of the same people repeating the same thing over and over until we get a unique ending to the season that isnt worth having the edit be so piss poor.

eaed: 31 - I kind of hate putting this here because at the end of the day it does have the broken twist, and the overall predictability factor / boringness in it. But the fact of the matter is that there were indeed fun moments like the first 4 episodes and then Dom/Wendell rivalry/bromance. Also, someone needs to defend this poor season because I still dont get those people that are out here saying this doesnt even feel like survivor anymore because of the ending and uneven editing and lack of character talk. At the end of the day, Survivor has a job to do and to tell us the story that they want to tell and some characters arent offering up what YOU want out of them or what production needs out of them. For example, listening to RHAP Chelsea focused in her secret scenes primarily on the story being about her vs Wendell and the confessionals of the other players werent reflecting that. Now, that is no excuse not to show her at all. They should have found a way to get her/the others to talk about her more as a threat but at the end of the day without giving away the outcome of the season they had to do what they had to do. Honestly, people were just too hard on this season and the season didnt help itself by having one of the most dominating alliances in Survivor History.

FBike: 31 - The concept of bringing past props and advantages back sounds interesting, but in practice it's just twist overload.

darkx: 32 - I give the producers credit for having the balls to take a risk here and try something new and exciting, and I'm sure the idea looked great on paper, but this season was a miserable failure on so many levels. The Ghost Island twist had promise, but it was implemented very poorly and almost felt rigged to a certain degree - the lack of randomness often made it a hiderence to its victims at best and a death sentence at worst. The season's one major running story ended halfway through and we were left with a predictable Pagonging afterwards. While I appreciate the Survivor history scattered throughout, and the fact that they actually cast a very high ratio of superfans this year, for a season that was clearly intended to be mostly fanservice, they really fucked it up.

Naye745: 33 - somehow managed to make a final tribal tie still seem unexciting. decent characters, but no drama, and a lot of advantages that amounted to nothing but wasted screentime waxing nostalgic over previous, better seasons. probably should be lower

BCT: 34 - The first half is a tale of heartbreak. The second half is a tale of bore. With an overabundance of advantages due to its dud of a twist (which scared people from making moves), unnecessary swaps robbing us of an epic showdown on Naviti, most of the colorful people gone early, a very unstrategic jury, and a horrific edit (only Samoa is worse), Ghost Island ultimately falls flat. Its not even remotely fun to watch. That ending, though.

YoRyan: 34 - pure apathy in survivor form
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Naye745 posted...

well, if we're just considering "a season where probst highlights the male competitors" as the sole criteria, that's every season

There has to be an exception somewhere. Anyway, I'm gonna stop giving hints and start giving rankings.
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By this point, my schedule slip has become a bit of a joke, hasn't it?

#33: South Pacific
Average Ranking: 30.64

Inviso: 21 - A season after Redemption Island, South Pacific definitely left a bad taste in my mouth in its immediate aftermath. However, having time to look back on it, its nowhere NEAR as awful as Redemption Island, and actually has some redeeming features to rank it amongst the flawed, but not completely awful seasons on the list. The pre-merge was actually exciting, what with the story of Redemption Island actually feeling compelling this time around. Plus the tribes were evenly matched, making the merge feel that much heavier when it finally came to pass. The endgame also worked out spectacularly, as we watched allies turn on each other, rather than an obvious core excising outsiders. Really, the only truly terrible parts of South Pacific (and theyre big parts, hence the lower ranking) are overbearing edits for half of the final eight, and the early merge episodes being frustrating to watch. But even then, it only takes three episodes to get through what COULD have taken five, so its all good. Throw in a satisfying winner, and South Pacific is surprisingly underrated, albeit not spectacular as a season.

Mana Sword: 26 - No writeup

Naye745: 26 - some people will probably say this is 10 spots too high, but I loved Sophie as a winner (and throughout the season) and thought the Cochran vs red tribe drama was great. (Even if he made a bad play, he wasn't winning with Ozzy and co. either.) i think this one is still a "bad" season, but one with more redeeming qualities than most.

YoRyan: 28 - garbage ass middle portion is semi saved from completely bottom tier because of an semi ok pre merge and a fantastic final 2 episodes

eaed: 29 - I like South Pacific more than a lot of people do and it all starts and ends in that pre-merge. I remember being on the edge of my seat in college during that premerge. And the constant back and forward between the two tribes and the constant wondering if something has got to give about these two teams is exciting and then it has the perfect payout at the merge but then it is immediately downhill afterwards. Honestly, if it werent for the religious undertones I think I would have this season even higher. There are also some dark things about this season that I didnt know about until after it aired and even then on the rewatch you dont notice them as much on screen as you should and while others will take that into account when ranking this season I dont think it affected my ability to watch the season.

Illuminatus: 32 - No writeup

GTM: 34 - unfun pagonging, why survivor gods and/or other gods

DoctorBlind: 34 - Weird religious overtones and awkward acting combined with a nutcase that should have never been cast results in one of the most uncomfortable seasons of Survivor out there.

FBike: 35 - RI + returnee shilling = trash.

BCT: 36 - Almost the entire cast is unlikable, the merge is boring and predictable, the religious undertones are off-putting, the winner is underwhelmingly edited, and nothing about it is fun to watch this is the one season of Survivor I cant find a single positive thing to say about. Except maybe the inclusion of a few challenges?

darkx: 36 - A mean-spirited season in which a handful of players get used and bullied, and are then chastized for not fulfilling the wishes of their abusers. Even worse is that the underdogs aren't likable at all. The season starts as a spit in the face to Survivor fans everywhere by bringing back the two twists that received so much criticism in the previous season, and only goes downhill from there.
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Probably knocking out three seasons today (July 12) to get back on track.
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#34: Thailand
Average Ranking: 30.73

Illuminatus: 16 - No writeup

YoRyan: 26 - the original black sheep of survivor seasons. Not awful by today's standards i suppose but it's still not good either

FBike: 30 - I give this season points for messing with the established format, but it fails in practice.

darkx: 30 - The weak link of the classic seasons, for many years most people thought this was the lowest Survivor could go. Although it produced one of the best winners the show has ever seen, with an unlikable cast and one of the most uncomfortable incidents in the show's run, the ride to the end was terrible.

Mana Sword: 31 - No writeup

Inviso: 33 - This is a very unpleasant season. Like, its possible to have a negative season that is at least enjoyable to watch, but Thailand is dark and depressing. The biggest moment of the pre-merge isdisgusting to say the least. Dont get me wrong, I actually find amusement in a reasonable percentage of the cast, but I would say theres a big problem with just how mean-spirited people are, to the point where even enjoyable villains have their shine diminished. It definitely doesnt help that, despite an alliance of interesting characters taking over the game, the least telegenic one of them winds up winning out and leaving a bad taste in the mouths of the viewers. Oh, and also, the challenges this season suck. I remember that standing out because of how lame everything felt all season long.

GTM: 33 - people were mean on this season. and it was boring

Naye745: 34 - a lot of unpleasant people and storylines. boring pagonging. Brian's a good winner and Helen is great, that's about all you get.

BCT: 35 - Marred in hostility with a final five thats hard to like, this season is pretty much a shitshow thats only ever fun to watch if you dont take the third episode seriously. Thats hard to do. The fake merge twist was brilliant, but it ultimately killed the season since Sook Jai never stood a chance afterward.

DoctorBlind: 35 - What a snoozer. Doesnt help the majority alliance is unlikable. Couldnt even finish the season in my latest attempt to watch it a second time.

eaed: 35 - This season is the absolute worst of Old School Survivor. To reference the bullet points from my bottom ranked season. Thailand's characters were not overwhelming positive, in fact, they trended very negative more often than not. Once the fake merge happens, there is an uneven balance at the merge that makes Brians alliance ride easy to the end and then when Jane didnt come to play preventing Big Ted or Helen from making a move really kills the season from any form of excitement. Not to mention, while dominant, it was kind of awful to watch someone as unlikeable as Brian win the season.

Clue for #33: It had returnees.
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kateee posted...

vote bwburke off the island

Just happened to me in that ORG I was in.

Anyway, writeups are in. Now that I got all this stuff organized, this should be going faster. #34 coming up soon.
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Alright, I'll post them.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I think I'm going to give Maya credit for the letter in DD since it doesn't explicitly put Phoenix's name above it reading it aloud.

Speaking of which, there's one line in 5-5 that's glitched and isn't attributed to anyone, but I believe it's clear who's supposed to be speaking.
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#35 up, it's exactly what you'd expect it to be.
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#35: Redemption Island
Average Ranking: 32.55

DoctorBlind: 14 - Okay. I get it. Objectively this season isnt great. BUT! Boston Rob was my favorite castaway growing up, and seeing his masterful performance was thoroughly enjoyable for me, even if he was working with a bunch of soulless zombies.
BCT: 30 - A season with nothing of note after the first few episodes, which give enough momentum that fizzles fast. Franchesqua led to the false pretense that it was going to be a fun season, but that ended after Hantz crying home to Mommy made everything straightforward. The second Elrod blindside is epic but nothing happens after that due to the terrible decision to continue RI after the merge, which makes the game flip-free. I hope someone was fired for that. The winner is too predictable and has no competition at all, but at least the hectic start salvages this otherwise daunting season from the bottom five.
Mana Sword: 30 - No writeup
darkx: 34 - The entire season is just one big ego stroke for Boston Rob. His win wasn't telegraphed, it was practically pre-destined. The first four episodes gave the season so much promise, but, I can't believe I'm saying this, the momentum died with Russell's elimination. For the rest of the season, again, I can't believe I'm saying this, Phillip was the only thing that kept the season even remotely worth watching.
GTM: 35 - unfun pagonging, franchesqua
Naye745: 35 - the Rob show. purple tribe wasn't relevant, but they sucked. i guess Matt getting voted out twice was funny? almost entirely forgettable.
Inviso: 36 - While several seasons have tried their best to unseat Redemption Island since its initial run, it remains the worst season of television the Survivor franchise has ever produced. There is NOTHING about this season that works. The cast is made up of either cannon fodder (interesting personalities trapped on a tribe that theyre never going to be able to integrate into), or bland do-nothings, and they easily get sucked into the screen time black holes of two returning players. The entire story of each tribe winds up revolving around the returnees, and although the first few episodes are decent, Redemption Island quickly becomes a never-ending slog of boring gameplay and complacent players awaiting slaughter. Throw in some extremely uncomfortable and unpleasant events in the post-merge, and there really isnt a single positive thing to say about Redemption Island.
YoRyan: 36 - garbage, they've come close but they'd have to actively try to make a worse season
eaed: 36 - This season being last comes down to a couple of bullet points: Captain Returning Players, A broken twist, Overall Boring/Predictable, Overall ugliness. And these are things happen in a lot of the seasons in the bottom half but the biggest issue is that these things are happening on screen and a lot! And Boston Rob, I have found more likeable over the years but hes not enough to save this season.
Illuminatus: 36 - No writeup
FBike: 36 - This was a season blatantly set up just for one contestant to win, so as no surprise it's ranked last. The inclusion of its eponymous twist only seals its fate.
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Underleveled posted...

What happened to 35 and 34 :(

Oh right, I need to get around to that. Probably back-to-back in around 30-60 minutes.

Hint for #34: The starting tribes were orange and purple.
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eaedwards6400 posted...

Jonas was a dud. They were mostly duds. The people I can think I could even muster feels (positive or negative) Colton, Kim, Chelsea, Alecia, Kay, Troyzan, Tarzan, and kind of Jay and Sabrina. Anyone else I would probably have to look at a wiki for.

That's kind of why Survivor Wiki exists.
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#36 One World (with writeups)
Average Ranking: 32.91

Inviso: 27 - A lot of people claim One World has a terrible cast, but thats one negative I will always strongly disagree with. I would say that, with better editing, or without such a dominant player running circles around the other seventeen cast members, One World wouldve been a completely satisfying season. Unfortunately, the blandest and most level-headed players in the season also happen to be the ones that wound up running the show and cutting anyone who mightve spiced up the game. But still, Id argue that fifteen cast members showed strong potential, and there WERE bits of personality injected into an otherwise boring season. Sure, there were several characters so offensive that they helped ruin the season with their overbearing presence, but you cant say they werent memorable. I just have a hard time outright HATING One World, because its such a complete nothing season. It has some moments and ends up boring, but its not the worst thing Survivor has ever produced.

BCT: 28 - Basically a better Redemption Island due to its characters creating moments of randomness, such as Tarzan being jealous of Chelseas boobs. The reactions to Colton were amusing and ultimately made his karmic retribution more satisfying, but even then he never should have been cast. Kim Spradlin was quite a dominating winner and in her first time, no less.

Illuminatus: 29 - No writeup

YoRyan: 33 - "cure for insomnia"

eaed: 33 - The problem with One World isnt so much of the negativity, which it definitely has in a huge way in the premerge, it is just SO DAMN BORING. When you are watching Survivor in a robotic strictly strategic sense you probably love this season because Kim is absolutely amazing but even on my 2nd true rewatch there really wasnt much there. Some fun moments with Tarzan but even then his contention with just losing when he lost made it even more boring and I just had enough. Not negative enough to be lower.

FBike: 33 - Most boring season of all time, and its central twist barely impacted the game.

darkx: 35 - With the most boring and predictable winner the show has ever had and arguably the most vile human being in Survivor history, the only thing keeping this season from being the worst is a few contestants who are just crazy enough to get some laughs.

GTM: 36 - unfun pagonging, colton sucks and uh

Mana Sword: 36 - No writeup

DoctorBlind: 36 - I didnt realize this was my least favorite season until I put in the time to rank them. The concept of One World is interesting, but they gave up on it too early and the cast was a major dud. At least Kim is great.

Naye745: 36 - terrible season with a good winner (but no suspense) and Kat. the fact that all momentum died when the worst person left says it all.
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Inviso posted...

Did you not submit your own list?

I decided to not make my own list because I knew everyone else's list.

Especially given my would-have-been bottom three and the likely accusations of rigging.
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Underleveled posted...

Oh snap

Approximately 14 minutes until half of Reddit says the same.
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#36: One World

Inviso: 27
BCT: 28
Illuminatus: 29
YoRyan: 33
eaed: 33
FBike: 33
darkx: 35
GTM: 36
Mana: 36
DoctorBlind: 36
Naye745: 36

Writeups will come in the morning because I need to sleep. Tomorrow I'll reveal #35 and #34, along with the writeups for the bottom three.

"Hint" for #35: Oh, come on, you all knew this one would be in the bottom two.
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ORG host was late. When he said 10:00 EST, he should have clarified the daylight saving thing.

Anyway, #36 coming up.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Raka_Putra posted...

Right, the one thing that disappointed me about SoJ is how terribad most of the Khu'rain names are. >_>

what's so funny about Pees'lubn Andistan'dhin

"Peace, love, and understanding"
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I'm currently busy in an ORG. Votes there will be read as late as 10:30pm, so expect #36 to be revealed immediately afterwards.
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GTM posted...

from the outside, that hint doesnt narrow it down

That was quite intentional.
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Second Hint for #36: Everyone ranked this season in the bottom half (19th or worse).
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It took longer to tally than I expected, and it's late enough at night that I'll give the hint tonight and the answer tomorrow.

There was only one tie on the rankings. I planned to break it by the best individual ranking, but that was also tied, so I broke it by lower standard deviation.

Hint for #36: The final five were all from the same starting tribe.
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LeonhartFour posted...

5-4 Investigation Day 1 complete

I want to call it day 2 since it's connected to trial day 2 but yeah

5-4 is kind of a weird case.
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I'll tally the votes.

#36 on the list is coming tomorrow night.
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Deadline in less than 10 hours.
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BlueCrystalTear posted...

If you extend this through Thursday, I can get my list in.

Alright then.

Deadline is now 49 hours from this post.

Please don't spam my inbox with pictures of Purple Kelly.
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Only 5 people have sent lists in. That seems low.
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Mewtwo59 posted...

Did that rumor about Russell Hantz being on the season end up being true?

Full cast isn't out yet, so we don't know.
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Are FIFA still corrupt?
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close to 500, so new topic created

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/76769618
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Season rankdown still in progress. Deadline in 71 hours. Not too many people with rankings sent in yet.

Meanwhile, let's get a new topic going.
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Please mention your username when sending me the lists.
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As a reminder, 3 days left to rank the Survivor seasons. Only one person's sent in a list so far.
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GTM posted...

Approaching majoras mask time

72 hours remain.

As a reminder, my email address is [email protected]
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Jean Robert's Bell End
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You know whose apartment is shitty? Mine.
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