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Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

@Alakazamtrainer

Vote Chris.

I see the good argument, my vote is there in spirit, I refuse to vote for someone just because someone demands I do.

What?

I understand and see the point of voting for Chris, however you literally tied my hands on the vote, I cannot nor will I vote at someone's beck and call. However I consider it more towards the end of day

That is not how voting works. You can vote for whoever you want any time of the day for whatever reasons you want.

Especially for people you agree with as being scum.

Point = missed. Let me rephrase, I won't vote for Chris at this time due to your demanding of it, it would make me seem like I'm following you, thus riding on the lynch train. When my current vote is still a viable lynch
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Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

@Alakazamtrainer

Vote Chris.

I see the good argument, my vote is there in spirit, I refuse to vote for someone just because someone demands I do.

What?

I understand and see the point of voting for Chris, however you literally tied my hands on the vote, I cannot nor will I vote at someone's beck and call. However I consider it more towards the end of day
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Corrik posted...

@Alakazamtrainer

Vote Chris.

I see the good argument, my vote is there in spirit, I refuse to vote for someone just because someone demands I do.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

? Surly you have some other reads that you wish to pursue

Pursue? No.

So the great and mighty red is being lazy and not hunting scum because he's so focused on one person... worst play ever.
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Leafeon13N posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Leafeon13N posted...

Prof is literally a garbage tier player in a game full of heavyweights. You'd have a hard time getting me to lynch him day 1.

Speak of the devil... Here's a question for you Sir. Like Rogue said earlier, if your so convinced I'm scum why tunnel, and not look for other scum?

One thing at a time?

That's a weak excuse. That's literally saying I found scum so I'm not going to look till the next day. Aka, being lazy.

Whats.your opinions of Nana? Corrik? Scare? Chris? Surly you have some other reads that you wish to pursue
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Leafeon13N posted...

Prof is literally a garbage tier player in a game full of heavyweights. You'd have a hard time getting me to lynch him day 1.

Speak of the devil... Here's a question for you Sir. Like Rogue said earlier, if your so convinced I'm scum why tunnel, and not look for other scum?
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My Immortal posted...

My Immortal posted...

Was scanning through the last game on the mafia board that Alakazam was town during and I found this post by him.

Heres a question for all:

Why are we even talking about claming on day one? Whats worse is people who normally say dont claim day one are arguing the point. Regardless of Corriks ability, its to much of a risk and gamble to even claim day one.

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@Alakazamtraineralak any reaction to this?

I find it hard to full claim day 1. And no one really should, however I claimed to head of the pressure to claim knowing I'm vanilla, and knowing that vanilla hard claim to sell... unless they are doing a mass claim
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

So your voting for me for what everyone else votes for people, commonly but without a good centralized reason?

I'm not sure what you're saying here.

I'm voting for you because you admitted that you knew Corrik was Town, which if true, only a Scum member should know. I don't buy the cover-up or the claim.

I'm saying, badly, that you have a few very common reason for voting for me, yet nothing that screams your thinking for yourself on this vote....i.e. your vote looks like a bandwagon vote.
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NewDonker posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: profDeadpool

Claim. Your looking just as bad as I supposedly am. Yet your unclaimed. Do so please.

Someone other than Mr."I claim under pressure as town so I'll claim here" Trainer coreect me if I'm wrong, but I remember Alakazam being very self-deprecating as town in heroes vs villains mafia 2. That game, he was town. Here he seems to be trying to deny the fact he looks bad. Alakazam really is floundering this game, even on the offchance he's town

This is your 2ed post I've seen from you... And the 2ed time your throwing shade. Please post more and what are your thoughts on other players.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

DoomTheGyarados posted...

Anyone in the house want to defend Deadpool? His tone is wildly off to me and would love to hear a defense from the likes of FD!

Nah. I had him as a null read, and I actually did not recall him sticking out to me at all when I first read through the topic, which is why I did not like the prof train to begin with. Also, Shad started it and he's in the Scummish territory.

But prof tends to crumble under pressure, so I'm alright with applying it until he does.

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Looking at the votes, I must ask the people who have voted for me; Why? I know I don't follow general posting logic, at the same time looking in my own way. So are you voting for me because I'm not a mindless sheep and posting the same b.s. as everyone else? Or is there some other reason?

A. Your reactionary vote on me. "My only Scum read is this guy pushing for my lynch!"
B. It seems like you said early on "Corrik is miller, so this tells us..."

So your voting for me for what everyone else votes for people, commonly but without a good centralized reason?
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##Unvote
##Vote: profDeadpool

Claim. Your looking just as bad as I supposedly am. Yet your unclaimed. Do so please.
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profDEADPOOL posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Anyone have anything they wish to ask... I'll be on for the next 20-30mins

Who is scum?

Who is town?

If you were day vig and you had to shoot someone right now who do you shoot?

If you were a random firing vigilante would you use your ability tonight knowing that it would just kill someone at random? Would it make a difference if you could put 3 people on a safe list who could not be randomly struck? Who would you put on that list?

Scum:
Han is my only real read atm

Town:
Sceptile
Corrik
Puns
Scare

Who I would shoot as dayvig, no-one right now would wait till closer to eod.

Would wait for more info rather then shoot, random viging is as bad as afking... it proves nothing and 95%it backfires on town.

3 to protect:
Corrik
Puns
Scare

Why protect the "policy lynch" instead of maybe shooting them so we don't have to "policy lynch" them exactly.

I do think Han is more likely to be right and it was a scumslip now where you confirmed Corrik town, tho I'm still not sure why you pinged then.

##unvote:
##vote: Alakazamtrainer

turbopuns2 posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

turbopuns2 posted...

What is WRT?

With regard/s to

Oh lol. I assumed 'tact' was a type of 'fact'. That is way more clear. And also a pretty useless statement, in that case.

Tact might not be the right word then.

The line? The way? Way I think is more clear.

I really like the way Han is looking at and trying to make a case for Zam being scum.

Corrik by him self can do alot with just a little information. I've seen him correctly deduce scum by the end of day 2. A great player with a bad town =/= A bad player with a good role.

In other words is rather save someone who's more then likly to help then someone who could possibly afk out
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Looking at the votes, I must ask the people who have voted for me; Why? I know I don't follow general posting logic, at the same time looking in my own way. So are you voting for me because I'm not a mindless sheep and posting the same b.s. as everyone else? Or is there some other reason?
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Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Anyone have anything they wish to ask... I'll be on for the next 20-30mins

Who is scum?

Who is town?

If you were day vig and you had to shoot someone right now who do you shoot?

If you were a random firing vigilante would you use your ability tonight knowing that it would just kill someone at random? Would it make a difference if you could put 3 people on a safe list who could not be randomly struck? Who would you put on that list?

Scum:
Han is my only real read atm

Town:
Sceptile
Corrik
Puns
Scare

Who I would shoot as dayvig, no-one right now would wait till closer to eod.

Would wait for more info rather then shoot, random viging is as bad as afking... it proves nothing and 95%it backfires on town.

3 to protect:
Corrik
Puns
Scare

You would protect a town miller over the other person you had as town, sceptile?

You sir are far too valuable to lose this early. If it was day 2 or further if have to really think about it
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Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Anyone have anything they wish to ask... I'll be on for the next 20-30mins

I love how you keep posting this nonsense instead of trying to find scum. Very reactionary.

I'm tired I'm ready for bed but not calmed down yet from work.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Anyone have anything they wish to ask... I'll be on for the next 20-30mins

Who is scum?

Who is town?

If you were day vig and you had to shoot someone right now who do you shoot?

If you were a random firing vigilante would you use your ability tonight knowing that it would just kill someone at random? Would it make a difference if you could put 3 people on a safe list who could not be randomly struck? Who would you put on that list?

Scum:
Han is my only real read atm

Town:
Sceptile
Corrik
Puns
Scare

Who I would shoot as dayvig, no-one right now would wait till closer to eod.

Would wait for more info rather then shoot, random viging is as bad as afking... it proves nothing and 95%it backfires on town.

3 to protect:
Corrik
Puns
Scare
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Anyone have anything they wish to ask... I'll be on for the next 20-30mins
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Whatever, people read it as they will.

Just saying. Will be in bed shortly anyways...
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My Immortal posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Well it seems my magical panties aren't so magical

Trucy Wright, Town Vanilla.

As my parents are dead or gone, Phoenix Wright adopted me.

Why did you feel a need to claim so soon?

Because anyone who's played with me knows I claim under slight pressure

Alarm
Alarm
Alarm

What's the alarm? It's the truth if I haven't claimed by by day 3 something is seriously wrong
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Well it seems my magical panties aren't so magical

Trucy Wright, Town Vanilla.

As my parents are dead or gone, Phoenix Wright adopted me.

Why did you feel a need to claim so soon?

Because anyone who's played with me knows I claim under slight pressure
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Alakazam:

Crescent-Moon posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Crescent-Moon posted...

Corrik posted...

Everyone talking about that stupid game during this game is derailing the game.

This is true.

I would like Alakazam while he is here to say something not Corrik or policy lynch related. He asked Scare for an opinion on two of the players (Nana and Puns), but he never gave any serious mention of those players himself.

Both Nana has a tendency to not play day 1, however the fact he posted says a lot. And puns can be hard to read and was looking for a 2ed opinion on this

This post was brought to you by the toliet... bbl at work

What has Nana posted that has been of any significance? Why does it "say a lot"?

I would still like an answer to this.

Nana is a habitual day 1 afk/pressure poster. Despite what he says, the few posts he does have are throwing shade on me or others.
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Alakazamtrainer posted...

Well it seems my magical panties aren't so magical

Trucy Wright, Town Vanilla.

As my parents are dead or gone, Phoenix Wright adopted me.

Posted again for good measure and the fact it was at the bottom of the page
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Well it seems my magical panties aren't so magical

Trucy Wright, Town Vanilla.

As my parents are dead or gone, Phoenix Wright adopted me.
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##Vote: Han

Have you not been reading? I think you read one post and decided from there...
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Crescent-Moon posted...

Corrik posted...

Everyone talking about that stupid game during this game is derailing the game.

This is true.

I would like Alakazam while he is here to say something not Corrik or policy lynch related. He asked Scare for an opinion on two of the players (Nana and Puns), but he never gave any serious mention of those players himself.

Both Nana has a tendency to not play day 1, however the fact he posted says a lot. And puns can be hard to read and was looking for a 2ed opinion on this

This post was brought to you by the toliet... bbl at work
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And can I ask a question to you red?

would you please stay on one account? To some of us, we don't known you to well and think your 2 different people.
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Corrik besides Chris, what are your other reads?
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htaeD posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

Yeah... Um... Okay

Questions? Concerns? Observations?

No. You have said enough.

Care to elaborate?

It seems like all zam is saying is that there is no point worrying about it yet. I dont necessarily agree because i don't think you should get a pass until such time as we have nothing better to go on than sussing out the Miller claim.

He just said he would lynch a PGO claim if he thought the player was town if he had no other leads 3 days into the game in name of "progression". Sums it up pretty easily to me.

Policy lynches while horrible, do give us information both millers and PGOs are notorious scum claims

which examples are you thinking of?

Monster mafia last day of the game, I was policy lynched as pgo because of a bg. The whole argument on my lynch was that pgo is a scum claim. In that same game a Miller claim was given, only to be scum
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Corrik posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

Yeah... Um... Okay

Questions? Concerns? Observations?

No. You have said enough.

Care to elaborate?

It seems like all zam is saying is that there is no point worrying about it yet. I dont necessarily agree because i don't think you should get a pass until such time as we have nothing better to go on than sussing out the Miller claim.

He just said he would lynch a PGO claim if he thought the player was town if he had no other leads 3 days into the game in name of "progression". Sums it up pretty easily to me.

Policy lynches while horrible, do give us information both millers and PGOs are notorious scum claims
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Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik posted...

Yeah... Um... Okay

Questions? Concerns? Observations?

No. You have said enough.

Ok, but in less then 2 hours my posting becomes restricted, as I'm working a clopen. And won't be available untill 12pm mountain time for full convos
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Corrik posted...

Yeah... Um... Okay

Questions? Concerns? Observations?
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Corrik posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

red13n posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Like I said Corrik being miller resolves itself. At some point scum will kill him (as no scum should keep him in game to long sans last game) or he will be lynched because no-one will believe him.

what would ever make you lynch him? Its not self-resolving. Not any more than anyone else in the game.

Arti posted...

I mean
you can say this about any character without knowing the flavor split

Corrik literally gave us the flavor split.

Any number of thing, we get to a point where there's alot of aims yet no split, miller/pgo tends to get voted out. Anytime there isn't a good lynch option, same situation. Miller and PGOs tend to become a progression lynch when the game is at a stand still.

What

Progression lynch: a lynch that gives us some information flavor splits if or when none are given.

A good example would be at the end of day 3 with town popping up with the same flavor archetype and a Miller or PGO have a different archetype.
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red13n posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Like I said Corrik being miller resolves itself. At some point scum will kill him (as no scum should keep him in game to long sans last game) or he will be lynched because no-one will believe him.

what would ever make you lynch him? Its not self-resolving. Not any more than anyone else in the game.

Arti posted...

I mean
you can say this about any character without knowing the flavor split

Corrik literally gave us the flavor split.

Any number of thing, we get to a point where there's alot of aims yet no split, miller/pgo tends to get voted out. Anytime there isn't a good lynch option, same situation. Miller and PGOs tend to become a progression lynch when the game is at a stand still.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

red13n posted...

I mean, he could easily just be winston payne, scum x.

I don't think so. If the Miller claim is fake i think the flavor would be as well.

Although from browsing the wiki page on Winston im having a difficult time imagining him as Miller to begin with.

He's usually the first prosacuter of the game that you go against. I can see it as Miller because he's normally annoying, brash, and careless.
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turbopuns2 posted...

Ok this whole conversation is pointless. If MI is town he is just focusing in too hard on minutia and reading things wrong. I lean more that direction right now because this would be a bunch of needless wheelspinning for scum. Apparently when he was asking me the reasons for my vote he was actually trying to say "your vote sucked". Which I see that angle now.

I was thinking the same thing. About the convo being pointless.

Like I said Corrik being miller resolves itself. At some point scum will kill him (as no scum should keep him in game to long sans last game) or he will be lynched because no-one will believe him.

Oh the other hand Scare your thoughts on nana and puns
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scubasteve42 posted...

C) Poultry

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htaeD posted...

also a bit warty of MI soft defending zam here
I myself see potential in zam being scum and I am not gonna brush that aside because of zam ' always looking like scum'

especially not after the last game

also saying that zam staying up after he said he'd be gone is a common worriedscumtrait

Or in last night's case, some came up last minute IRL.

I will point out, however, that Corrik having his claim as such with said flavor makes a lot of sense. So not something that was counter claimed yet if ever. I'll chalk it up to something else I said last game... I'm always suspicious of Corrik. Let me repeat it one more time for good measures. I am always suspicious of Corrik.

Anyways as for the votes on me, it's early day one, if I get more later then so be it.
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Dark Young Link posted...

Can't speak for Scare, but that response just now feels odd. Surely you know what timezones are? This isn't your first game, Zam.

That and the commentary on the claims makes me slightly suspect you of being scum.

Alakazamtrainer posted...

Corrik as Miller and 2 bp claims.

While Corrik as Miller is telling; he claimed his first post, I still think that he needs to be watched...

Other then that I'll watch what happens...

Like the only thing that's being said here is exactly what was stated a page ago and the whole "We need to watch out for the miller claim!" is like telling town "You need to vote for who you think is scum".

That was my whole point on the time stamp sarcasm. Posting a time stamp by themselves means nothing without a reference point I.E it's 11:20pm where I'm at a time stamp for tomorrow at 12:35am without a time zone really means nothing...

As for Corrik's claim, that's why I asked for flavor... knowing I probably won't get it. However this is Corrik and with Corrik i suspect everything he says, without question. And him claiming Miller makes me even warier.

As for the double bp claim that's a grab bag I'm not willing to grab.. yet

Also I'm 20mins after a sleeping tea... Night will catch up in the morning
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turbopuns2 posted...

Alakazamtrainer posted...

@Corrik

Saturday, May 26, 2018 12:39 AM

Nice timestamp... pity it's not even midnight where I'm at. Are you from the future or something?ScareChan posted...

Poor alakazam

Scum twice in a row

Do explain how you derived from 2 posts? I'll be interested in hearing your rather incorrect theory.
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Dark Young Link posted...

I'm not sure how a miller claim is "telling" of anything.

It's telling, but @Corrik mind flavor claiming as well?

It's telling in so much that we know Corrik is A) telling the truth and is town (dangerous to scum) or becomes a sacrifice later when we can't find scum. So either way he's dead or lynched... no offense Corrik
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Ummmm.... what did I just read? Oh wait it was day one fluff with spike thrown in.

Corrik as Miller and 2 bp claims.

While Corrik as Miller is telling; he claimed his first post, I still think that he needs to be watched...

Other then that I'll watch what happens...

But on that note I'm off to bed and will catch up in the morning
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DoomTheGyarados posted...

Um...

Leafeon13N posted...

Wow. Way to throw deadline onto a holiday.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

red13n posted...

i thought we werent confirming anymore.

I only did it because everyone else was doing it

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Malcrasternus posted...

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