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Tadamoto22 posted...

OpheliaAdenade posted...

The only option is to wait for marriage?

Is this really such a bad option though? This is technically the way it's supposed to be according to the Bible. Think about it. No unwanted pregnancy, no STDs, people would actually be more faithful.

DevsBro posted...

It's not like waiting for marriage is unreasonable.

Not everyone is a Christian and wants to wait or get married.

27_Sandman_40 posted...

Go_Totodile posted...

Never support scalpers.

How upset does someone trying to make a living bother you?

Making a living by ripping people off and trying to lazily cash in on something they add no value to. I don't buy stuff from scalpers either.

I mean, what did he expect when he sent her access to all his money and said "yeah, just buy anything you want I guess".

Knowledge_King posted...

LJRENEGADE posted...

Not every white person has ancestors that were slave owners in America and not every black person has ancestors that were slaves in America, so that's one thing. Plus I think people deserve to be treated like individuals, not punished for the actions of their ancestors and especially not punished as a whole race because of what people of that race did. Racism sucks but if you personally have nothing to do with it, then its not right for you to suffer for it. I don't think that's fair to anyone.

Again, the people don't pay or suffer. Literally only the country/government does.

That's not how the topic was worded, but if that's the case, then I think that's a much more reasonable thing.

Not every white person has ancestors that were slave owners in America and not every black person has ancestors that were slaves in America, so that's one thing. Plus I think people deserve to be treated like individuals, not punished for the actions of their ancestors and especially not punished as a whole race because of what people of that race did. Racism sucks but if you personally have nothing to do with it, then its not right for you to suffer for it. I don't think that's fair to anyone.

No. People say some nasty shit and I can sympathize with the people who get angry and throw punches over it, but that still doesn't make it okay. I can also respect someone who knowingly does something wrong, but acknowledges that its wrong more than I can respect someone who tries to defend and justify their shitty behavior.

I don't worship them, but I respect people willing to take the job. Yeah, not every one is a great person, but being in the military is tough in general and by just being in the military, there's a chance you'll have to be in combat or see some messed up shit. I definitely wouldn't compare it to a regular job. And a lot do care about their country and the guys around them.

DuchessRolab posted...

Their paycheck. If they love the country so much, they should give the money back.

A lot of those guys have needs and families to take care of. Even if they love their country, they still need a way to pay the bills.

When I was younger, I had a job that was 4am to 1pm. Getting up that early sucked at first, but I got used to it and ended up loving the hours because I still had the majority of the day when I got home. I still prefer earlier hours. I would hate not getting to leave til late in the day.

My sister's shift ends at like 10 or 11pm every day, I would hate her job. I don't know exactly when her shift starts though, but its early. Like 8 or 9 am probably.

Ranmaru-9 posted...

I feel sorry for them. They basically believe in nothing. How do they feel when their parents die? The only why I've dealt with it is believing that they're in heaven and that I'll see them again someday. If I didn't believe that, there would be no reason for me to go on.

Yeah, as an atheist, its a pretty lame thinking about what being dead is like. I kind of wish I believed in an afterlife, it would make the thought of death less depressing.

Patty_Fleur posted...

There's no reason to have morals if you're atheist. Do what ever you can for pleasure in your short time on earth.

You don't need religion to have morals.

6 was pretty fun once you learned the mechanics and enjoyed it for what it was. If you go into it taking everything too seriously or expecting it to be like an older RE game, yeah you'll be disapointed, but as a wacky, campy, co-op action game, its great. Its also way better on harder difficulties imo. But I gotta admit, Chris's campaign had some good moments and Chris himself was definitely the most interesting character in the game.

There's also so many weird and cool mechanics, its sad that we'll never see them in another game. Like how you could slide, and roll around, and lay on the ground, all sorts of weird movements.

And I don't understand why people complain there's too many QTEs though. There's really not that much more in RE6 than there is in a lot of other games. At least in gameplay. There was a good amount in cutscenes and for little mini game type moments, but I never thought there was that many overall.

Is it just me or does Aloy look a little bit like Lindsay Lohan in a way?

I don't care what someone believes, if they aren't actually a threat to you, you don't get to just punch them in the face just because they believe in some awful shit.

Darmik posted...

Nazism is a threat to many people.

Maybe not to you. But to many others. They're a hate group.

If a dude is minding his own business and not saying anything or doing anything to anyone, he's not a threat, no matter what he believes.

kenio8185 posted...

I'll defend speech, idc. I'll even defend your speech of wanting them to shut up. That's fine. As long as you don't act on it and start punching them, then who the fuck cares. Likewise, as long as they don't attack people, then whatever, it's cool.

This, I think any hateful ideas are despicable but I also support peoples' rights to say those ideas without fear of getting attacked. Criticism and even insults are fair game, but not violence.

Just because of their beliefs? No, its not okay to use violence. Can't really say I'd feel too much sympathy for assholes, but it doesn't make it okay to attack them unprovoked and you deserve whatever legal consequences you face if you do.

Yeah, I kinda agree. Personally, I don't really care that either used it, I don't think either wanted to offend anyone when they said the words, but for H3 to go so hard on Pewdiepie when he's said the word a lot himself is just weak. Like when he said Pewdiepie was "really comfortable using that word", yet in the iDubbbz podcast, I believe he said "shut up, n***** f***** wh***" and "I love saying n***** f*****, its wonderful", to which even iDubbbz said he was using it a little liberally. And there were just a lot of other little things that rubbed me the wrong way about it. I like H3 mostly, but he does come off as a massive hypocrite about this situation.

BlackHorse6969 posted...

really? it's pretty obvious h3h3 was a hypocrite back in the leafy drama days when h3h3 would bash leafy for "bullying" other people. h3h3 bullies people all the time.

h3h3's hypocrisy is part of his character tbh. his fans arent the ones attacking him. it's just SJWs

But I also agree with this. I'd say Leafy is more of a dick from what I've seen, whereas H3 is typically isn't as bad, but H3's been a dick and made fun of kids and shit too. Seems fucked to me that he'd make a video calling Leafy's channel cancer when his own channel was built off of making fun of other people.

I'd give him a little more slack on this though because Leafy is more of an asshole and, at least from what I've seen, the majority of people he makes fun of are children.

smoke_break posted...

^that word count is too high for your weak argument of "it's just a word"

What does the word count have to do anything with it? And it is just a word. There are genuine race related issues, so people getting upset over the Pewdiepie situation, as if its a big issue, is laughable.

Same with the word n*****. If someone called someone you knew a n***** with clear racist intent, I would say yeah that's fucked up, you're justified in being upset. But someone you don't know saying it to someone you don't know, without racist intent? Words are neutral. Intent and context are important. Yes, he meant it as an insult, but he clearly didn't mean it to be racist. He wouldn't have apologized after if he did. There's no way to tell if the guy he said it to was even black.

and "who cares."

Its a dude online saying a word to another dude online, probably in a different country than you, then apologizing after, clearly not intending to offend black people. If you do care, you have to much free time on your hands and need to rethink your priorities. So yes, I would say "who cares".

and at this point the discussion is less about the pew dumbass and more about general use of the word. if u think people using 'er isn't a racial issue

A word is hardly a real issue, especially when there are other big issues and especially when in a context like how Pewdiepie said it, when it wasn't racist or at least wasn't trying to be. And I'm assuming you mean "country", but Pewdiepie doesn't even live in America afaik.

Terra-enforcer posted...

Not once did I say it was a "big deal."...

I just got home and I'm tired so I'll make this my last post too. Like you said yourself, this doesn't affect you personally. And like you, it doesn't affect most people. Its some guy who neither of us know and will never meet, saying a dumb word to a dude out of frustration in a video game, then later apologizing. If someone wants to get upset about that, that's stupid and a waste of time. I actually like to think I'm a pretty empathetic guy, but this Pewdiepie situation is one of the dumbest things I've seen people mad about. If you were mad and I was your friend, I'd tell you the same thing. No point in getting upset about it, that's just stupid.

If I've ignored any of your points, that's either because it wasn't relevant or because I had the same response for it. Words are just words and context and intent are important. If you wanna get offended at a word itself, well I think that's stupid, but that is your business. And as far as the Pewdiepie situation, he clearly didn't mean to say n******, anyone who watched the video can tell that. If you disagree, that's fine, but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt based on what I've seen.

Hell, to be honest, if he did say it in a vile, nasty way like "I hate n******s" or something like that, I'd still say it was stupid to get upset over it. Its some dude online who we don't know, really, who cares? If the "who cares" thing doesn't do it for ya, I don't know what to tell you because I think caring about what strangers online say is stupid and an overreaction from the get go.

It sucks that people still face genuine racism and there are genuine race related issues, but getting upset at this Pewdiepie situation and the word n*****, regardless of context, is so pointless in the grand scheme of things. That's my opinion and it probably won't change because people saying shit to each other is pretty much a non issue in general if you ask me, especially when there are other real issues.

Your insults and jabs don't do anything to prove your point, that's just kinda childish and unnecessary. At the end of the day, if I have offended you or something, I do apologize, we're all just strangers online talking about other strangers online and its not that serious. No hard feelings, bud.

Terra-enforcer posted...

I already said an apology loses all meaning if you say it whilst laughing then later saying you don't even care, so bringing that again is a flawed point.

You've never said "shit, my bad" and laughed about something that you accidentally did? Really?

You being white means you aren't in the position to speak for an entire group of people you have zero connection with. I can say "who cares" about the "Dreamers" being forced out of the US, but from a moral position I am inept as I don't know what that group is going through. So it would be incredibly ignorant of me to state that it's impossible for anyone to feel sympathy for that group of people.

I'm not speaking for all black people, I'm giving my opinion on the reaction of the people who are upset about it, which I stand by. And we've all had nasty words said to us. If you wanna be overdramatic about words, that's your business.

Are you incapable of understanding analogies?

I mocked it because it was a stupid analogy.

I was blessed to be far from poor because of my parents as a child, and now if everything goes according to plan, I already have interviews set up to be a doctor, so obviously that's not the case. The point should have been incredibly blatant. In my example, the rich person was in a much higher position and never experienced poverty, so it's no surprise if he doesn't give a damn about whatever affects poor people while he gets a pass. It's sure easy as hell to talk behind a computer with your privilege (again I'm not an SJW so I hate using that word, but here it is 100% appropriate) versus facing these things in real life.

Not ridiculous, no. My point is that the "n word" has much more negative connotations with some people, so it's only respectful to say "you know, you went through some shit, so instead of me, a person with all of my privilege who has been given a nice life and don't know shit about how it feels for someone to use that as a way to demean you, why don't I just say maybe you are justified in not liking such a terrible word."

You know nothing about me, my life, or anything I've experienced. And you assume I'm privileged, never been treated like shit, and given a nice life because you assume I'm white? That's ignorant lol

Not every black person has the same life and not every white person has the same life. Throwing everyone into two categories is ridiculous.

And what about people who are black who share the same opinion as me on this? What would you say to them?

And again, I said this before which you ignored, give me another word with as many CENTURIES of negative connotations as that one and used so aggressively to kill thousands and enslave millions (and still used as a word of hatred to this very day), and then you may have a point, otherwise you sound very ignorant. Ever think there could be a reason why it's on a "pedestal"? Well, you are clearly ignorant to the fact, but there is one, and it is very clear.

Pick a slur, most have more history than you'd think. Like f*****. And don't you think putting it on a pedestal is a bad thing because it gives it power?

Terra-enforcer posted...
You being white is ... this feel.
What does being white have to do with being able to have empathy lol. And its funny you talk about showing empathy in a situation like this. Pewdiepie clearly said the word in a non racist context and just accidentally blurted it out, apologizing twice after. I'm saying who cares, he clearly didn't mean it in a racist context and you're the one who's saying its not ok, context doesn't matter, people are justified in being pissed at him. I would say you lack empathy for him.

It's like a rich...
Oh, is being black = to being poor and being white = to being rich now? And if the issue is a word, then I gotta be honest and say I don't care. Hearing a word isn't the end of the world.

This is all also still ignoring ...
I feel sorry for your grandfather, no one should have to experience that. But you can't link his experiences to this Pewdiepie situation or any time the word is used, regardless of context. That's a little ridiculous yeah?

A lot of words have history and can be traumatizing to people and that's unfortunate, but it doesn't make them more than words. And even for an offensive word, n***** is held on such a high pedestal, even compared to other words that could be offensive to people. Like would you hold f****t in the same regard as n*****? The sad thing is, putting it on a pedestal is giving the word more power than it deserves.

(you ignored it), why use that word...
Because your question didn't really change anything. You said if n***** is just a word, why not use it out of all the other billions of words? Because if its just a word, its a part of all the other billions of words and is fair game like the rest.

If you know the negative connotations...
And a single word can't link you to a group without context and context is important. Every time some little kid calls someone a f****** on Xbox, are they linking themselves to Isis?

And as far as wearing a Klan outfit, intent is important. Pewdiepie clearly didn't mean to be racist when he said n******.

As for ...
What I'm saying is, he was clearly like "whoops sorry, my bad". He just didn't go out of his way to go "oh my god I'm so sorry, that was so horrible of me" because it wasn't that big of a deal. He was considerate enough to apologize because he knew what he said could offend people, but didn't make a bigger deal of it than that because it wasn't one. That's what I was saying.

And what do you even mean by ...
Spending any of your time getting yourself in a pissy mood about it is a waste of time. I'm on here too, but I'm not getting upset about it. That is the part that's a waste of your time. No point in getting upset over it.

But this is all again me knowing I shouldn't have confronted you after you admitted to being white.
White people lack empathy and can never be victims of anything or hateful words, right?

Looks like I was correct in saying you were not bright.
Have I insulted you once? Because you've insulted me several times now.

feelings of those who it actually affects
Uh, how would it affect you more than me? The word was used in a non racist context and it wasn't directed at you or me. How does that affect anyone any differently? You don't even know the guy and weren't part of the conversation. This doesn't affect you or anyone else at all. That's my whole point. Being butthurt over it is stupid.

Like, this is all over some dude neither of us will ever meet threw out a shitty word, then apologized after, clearly not meaning to offend anyone. Is this really a big deal to you?

Terra-enforcer posted...

<That was merely to explain the negative connotations, and the memories or type of situations that word can make people feel. But the fact that you dodged the race question and

I didn't answer the question because it wasn't relevant to anything. A lot of words have history and can make people feel like shit or have history, even personally to specific people. Doesn't make them more than words and getting mad at Pewdiepie for saying it the way he did is stupid. If you wanna get mad at an asshole who's genuinely racist and saying racist shit, sure, but Pewdiepie saying it the way he did? Really? Who cares.

"N*****" is put on a pedestal by a lot of people anyway. Out of curiosity, are there any other words you hold to this regard, maybe other racial slurs or insults? What if you didn't but someone else did, would you never say it in any context and feel like you've committed a horrible act if you let it slip and didn't mean it?

your response probably tells me that you're a white male who is ignorant on the subject, so I guess expecting empathy from some of you is asking for too much.

Are other races and genders incapable of different emotions than others? Is that what you're saying?

Wow you aren't very bright are you?

Hey, that's a mature response lol.

Or is your reading comprehension seriously that bad? I have done plenty to show that he probably didn't give a damn and even tried to justify it, but you can't see that apparently. This amount of damage control is purely asinine.

What are you even talking about? I never argued he cared or was deeply saddened by what he said. I said he apologized and caught himself. And I don't care that he doesn't care. He shouldn't care. It wasn't that big of a deal. People making it a big deal are wasting time in their short lives over this crap and that's sad and unfortunate.

I would like to see you end up stop hiding behind your computer screen and call someone that out of anger and tell them it's "just a word" and see what happens.

There's a lot of words that you can call people that will make them angry at you or even violently attack you. Still just words.

At the end of the day, if you wanna get upset at some guy you don't know saying a word to another guy you don't know, that's your business. But I'm telling you man, its not a very good way to live your life. You'd be much happier if you didn't waste your time with this dumb shit.

Terra-enforcer posted...

What race are you? Have you ever had a group of multiple people call you that word as an insult and laugh at you? Wanna know something, it's easy from your chair behind your computer to say you would laugh it off, but in public in front of a lot of people,

This instance isn't in public in front of people, its a video of some guy you don't know and will never meet

that word simply isn't what I would call "fun." That's shit people to this day still deal with, so excuse us if we have to endure something you may not, especially when the intention of that word is incredibly vile as that one. It's easy as hell to play keyboard warrior who has never had to deal with things like this in your life, but that doesn't mean you should be ignorant and blind to any empathy for those who do endure these kinds of things.

You have to "endure" getting called a word? Its a shitty word definitely and I understand if getting called it pisses you off, most people would be, but its not the worst thing in the world. Don't be so overdramatic. Especially when the word is being used in the context that Pewdiepie used it in.

Obviously some SJWs take this too far and act as if everything is offensive, but people like you or assholes who say someone isn't justified for thinking that it is unintelligent for choosing such a hateful word out of ALL the words in the world to use as an insult. Like really, why that word specifically? If it's just a word, why can't you use the other billion and a half other words out there?

Obviously he blurted it without thinking. I highly doubt he sat there and thought "hmm, out of all the insults I could pick, I guess I'll choose n***** next time"

Immediately? Did you not watch all of the footage? He very quickly after saying the word said "oh shit" because he messed up and followed by saying "sometimes I forget that I'm on stream." That doesn't tell me that he's sorry for saying it, it tells me his ass is just sorry for getting caught. That alone is plenty of justification for having a reaction, but then he went even further and essentially said it doesn't matter (said something along the lines of "boo hoo I'm going to lose so much money" in a blatantly sarcastic tone), then he had his goon tell him that the word isn't even bad and people just say it's bad so they can have a reason to exist or some shit. None of that tells me he's genuinely sorry at all.

Furthermore, there is something VERY wrong with you if you auto default to saying racist words regardless, especially one as bad as that. Then instead of catching yourself, you do damage control. That's what happened, so it's not at all unreasonable to be upset at him. Get all of your facts straight before calling other people out for "overreacting."

Watch the video again. He said "sorry", almost immediately after saying the word. Like 2 or 3 seconds after.

You're getting upset over some dude you don't know a couple thousand miles away from you saying a word out of frustration in a video game. You're overreacting. Holy shit.

Twinmold posted...

Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

Damn I missed it. What did he say tough?

Said that there were a lot of racists on this website and blamed "crackers" for the problem. Definitely lacking tact. Of course the kiddies who think that saying the n-word is totally cool are completely against a non-insult like "cracker." Conservative snowflakes just being their usual selves.

Who in this topic was getting upset over him saying "cracker"? You're complaining about something that's not happening.

Terra-enforcer posted...

I knew there were plenty of dumbasses on CE, but this many in one topic? Gotta be some kind of record, right?

It's one thing to say you were okay with the situation. It's another to say "derp just a word." The latter is legitimately fucking ignorant as hell if you do not grasp the very rudimentary connotations of such a negative word. Just because it's a word doesn't mean it has no meaning.

Why? It is just a word. If you get super offended by particular words, that's your right to do so but it doesn't make them anything more than just words. Yes, its a word with a meaning, a pretty shitty, nasty meaning, but its still a word at the end of the day. A word which wasn't even used in the worst context or with the worst intent it could be.

Terra-enforcer posted...

How do you arbitrarily define someone as being "oversensitive"?

Because when you phrase your statement like that, you do not look remotely intelligent, and you're brushing off an issue and making it seem smaller than what it is to some people. Nearly any reaction (short of something like wanting him to die or something) is not overreacting to him using debatably the worst racial slur you can call someone that had been used for centuries and is still to this day used by people to shit on others for just living their life.

If some dude you've never met calls some other dude you've never met a shitty racist word in a non racist context in a moment of frustration during a video game, then immediately catches himself and apologizes, later making a whole apology video, and your reaction is anything other than "oh okay", then I'd totally say you're overreacting. Of course, that's just my opinion. I mean seriously, who gives a shit? Getting mad over stupid shit like this is a such a waste of your own time.

ThanksUglyGod posted...

LJRENEGADE posted...

Its obvious he just said the first insulting word that came to mind and didn't actually mean it to be racist. He let it slip, caught himself, and said sorry immediately after. Its not like he's genuinely racist and hates black people. Don't take it so seriously.

Fucker. Asshole. Dick. Bitch. Any of the words and more would've been fine, but he went and used a racial slur.

I get that the left and right have different ideas of what qualifies as "genuine racism", but calling someone a racial slur has to be one of the lowest bars.

I can see why people would get offended over it, but intent and context is important. It was stupid, but like I said, he obviously just blurted out a random insult and didn't intend to say it in a racist way or make any racist remarks toward anyone. He just let a shitty word slip while mad at a game.

Pogo_Marimo posted...

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UnfairRepresent posted...

ModLogic posted...

its like the majority of people aren't actually over sensitive sjws that get over upset a word

This

CurzonDax posted...

I'm a SJW for getting mad he used the N word as an insult? A word that was and still is used to dehumanize our race? Fuck every single one of you crackers. This site has become overrun by you racist crackers.

Its obvious he just said the first insulting word that came to mind and didn't actually mean it to be racist. He let it slip, caught himself, and said sorry immediately after. Its not like he's genuinely racist and hates black people. Don't take it so seriously.

Also "crackers"? lol