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| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 142: You know what you're getting into |
| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:35:03 PM #135 | Also I hate to go back to 50 posts ago but Lopen also doesnt show a great understanding of what privilege is. He did give an accurate example of it, but acted like that was the extent of it. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:32:20 PM #133 | Your point is some wishful thinking fairy shit where old white dudes in charge magically are more accepting of letting black people into their social circles because its current year --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 142: You know what you're getting into |
| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:28:48 PM #130 | Lopen posted... Gradually decreasing racism to the point where it's not the core of the problem anymore in the year 2017 (and wasn't in 2007 either) Not the core of the problem doesnt mean not a problem. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:27:55 PM #129 | Lopen posted... Black people get hit by it with a higher ratio, but that doesn't make it "systemic racism" Like SEP is saying, this is literally what systemic racism is --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:26:15 PM #127 | Lopen posted...
Even if we continue to show you studies that run counter to that? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:22:42 PM #125 | Lopen posted...
What exactly changed 50 years ago? Is the timeline in your mind Racism -> Civil Rights Movement -> No Racism? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:20:11 PM #413 | Go go Houston Verlanders --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:14:23 PM #117 | Lopen posted... Whites have a lot more ease in just having a natural social network. That's the privilege. Why is this not systemic racism? Would it help if I called it systemic racial bias? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 142: You know what you're getting into |
| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:12:02 PM #114 | xp1337 posted... if you gave a few examples of "success through purely hard work" There is none. Even in fields where there doesnt necessarily have to be ANY networking (say, YouTuber), its not hard work that pays off. Its SMART work. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:06:45 PM #108 | This may take the argument off on a tangent, but Lopens continued use of hard work keeps irritating me. I know what he MEANS by it, but the idea that hard work in and of itself pays off has never been true at any point in history for any race --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 142: You know what you're getting into |
| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:04:13 PM #103 | Kenri posted... I'm not sure why y'all are just allowing Corrik to say that powerful racists running everything in society including the fucking executive branch is an example of something that isn't institutional racism. Because Corrik --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 11:03:20 PM #102 | Lopen posted...
And I would say no, its factually true. Because of studies like this: https://hbswk.hbs.edu/item/minorities-who-whiten-job-resumes-get-more-interviews --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:55:49 PM #92 | Lopen posted... It's just that very few people, black or white, actually know what hard work is. It's a convenient excuse, if you're black, to think that "it's all race and I can't possibly work harder" but I guarantee you that it's actually very difficult for poor white people to make it as well. It is very difficult for poor white people But its still more difficult for poor minorities --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | Politics Containment Topic 142: You know what you're getting into |
| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:54:28 PM #90 | Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted...Corrik posted... He wasnt doing it in private though. Its not like he had secret concentration camps no one else knew about that he tended to on his own time. His entire department, for as long as he was Sheriff, was complicit, as were the systems of government that allowed him to openly operate in a racist manner until the outrage FINALLY got the wheels of justice in motion --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:50:37 PM #86 | xp1337 posted... Plus, you know, he was pardoned. So there's that. Ill give that a pass as that really IS what Corriks talking about when he says the problem is individual racists in positions of power instead of the system. Im pretty confident no one else running in 2016 would have pardoned Arpaio --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:48:54 PM #84 | Lopen posted... Now you give black people that same amount. Well, so say now, for the sake of argument they're more or less on the same level of white people in terms of being able to succeed with hard work. And this is the flaw with your argument: that assumption just isnt true. Im not going to argue that income inequality is an even BIGGER problem than racial inequality. It for damn sure is. But that doesnt magically erase racial inequality. Like, youve heard of the concept of white privilege right? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:45:23 PM #81 | Corrik posted...
And I dont think any of that changes anything. Its not like Arpaio was convicted after decades of abuse means the system works --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:39:54 PM #79 | Thank you, that did spell it out better for me I still think youre describing something that I would qualify as institutional racism. I dont believe you can say the race element is mostly out of the picture when equality hasnt been achieved, or even come close to being achieved. This is just one anecdote, but there are only 3 black CEOs in the Fortune 500. Thats better than 0, but not by much. Yes there is progress but it is glacial. Because of the nepotism issue you bring up (generally referred to in social justice circles as the Rolodex Problem), but also because there are too many people with racial bias in hiring as well. Studies have been done on this. But thats systemic racism in society, as weve pivoted to. Institutional racism in government PREVENTS many changes that could be made to help change society though. You mention Affirmative Action, have you seen what a FIGHT that is any time it comes up for debate in politics? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:24:10 PM #74 | Lopen posted...
What even is this paragraph? I honestly dont even get your point. Are you trying to say well black people I know we still disproportionately ruin and end your lives via our system of government, but were really trying hard not to anymore! Its just hard to change! --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:17:57 PM #72 | Basically I dont agree with your insinuation that 50 years is an eternity. The biggest voting bloc by age is seniors. There are still many, many people voting today who were violently opposed to black children going to white schools, and many of them havent changed And they still vote --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 10:13:22 PM #71 | Lopen posted... And I don't think that's what people like you are getting at, Actually it kind of is. Institutional racism slowly expunging itself like a constipated turd is happening, I agree. But that does not mean you can ignore that IT EXISTS. The system was SET UP for black people to fail many decades ago like you said. Thats EXACTLY what Im talking about And for Ben Stein to come on and say that it doesnt exist anymore is flat out wrong and ignoring all the work we as a society still have to do. Its attitudes like his that perpetuate it by turning a blind eye to actual problems. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | Richard Spencer is talking at the University of Florida on Thursday |
| Jakyl25 10/21/17 9:54:23 PM #449 | ASM #1 has a famous botch where Stan Lee called him Superman in a panel. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 9:07:34 PM #69 | Sorry, the statement itself was pre-crack and focused on heroin: Former aide to Nixon said... You want to know what this was really all about? The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what Im saying? We knew we couldnt make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 8:53:39 PM #68 | Lopen posted... Stop and Frisk is actually an example of what Corrik was saying about racist people being in power. Nothing about it itself is supposed to be racially based, it's just open, too open, and could theoretically be abused vs black people. It didnt come to exist in a vacuum though. Im talking the actual circumstances which led to it being enforced, not in theory. And your explanation of drug sentencing is woefully naive, especially after documents have come out about how people in power were specifically demonizing crack to fearmonger against blacks. Blacks still serve longer sentences than whites on average no matter what the drug is, thats just the MOST blatant example --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 7:51:21 PM #64 | If I give you direct answers to your questions about institutional racism and you just laugh them off, no wonder you think its just an opinion. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 6:08:31 PM #60 | Funny thing now that I invoked his name. It just occurred to me that white supremacists in some twisted sense are more woke than Ben Stein-style conservatives. White supremacists DO see the racial injustices in America. They just think thats the system working how it should be to put undesirables in their places. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 6:06:21 PM #59 | Shouldnt call Richard Spencer dumb just for having a different opinion --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 6:02:57 PM #57 | Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted...Corrik posted...Which law says a black man will serve a harsher crime than a white man? What part of these are things designed to punish black people more than white people is hard to understand? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 6:01:53 PM #56 | Not_an_Owl posted... Corrik posted...There are some racist people in jobs of power. That I do believe. I do not, however, believe that racism is institutional. Just pure coincidence! Its not THE SYSTEMS fault that it is used to disproportionally punish blacks people, and has been ever since it was invented --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 5:54:42 PM #51 | Corrik posted... Which law says a black man will serve a harsher crime than a white man? Cocaine sentencing vs Crack sentencing Corrik posted... Which law says that black men must be arrested more than white men? Stop and Frisk Just two of the more overt examples --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 5:34:35 PM #42 | Terastodon posted... The first lady is not a job or a real position. It's just an honorific given to the president's wife, why would it draw a salary? Read the article. Its about people assigned to work for the First Lady. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 5:33:29 PM #41 | Corrik posted... Jakyl25 posted...Corrik posted... No, its an actual fact. The incarceration, povety, and arrest numbers dont lie. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 5:25:28 PM #35 | Corrik posted...
Yes. People who disagree with facts are dumb. I know Im going out on a bold limb there --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 5:20:21 PM #33 | My opinion is that hes dumb because he doesnt recognize Americas issues with institutional racism and brushes off claims that it exists with childish dismissal --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 5:02:36 PM #31 | https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/921752676664213510 Remember when we used to think Ben Stein was smart? Its kinda crazy to see the divergent paths he and Jimmy Kimmel have taken politically since they were paired together 20 years ago --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | Richard Spencer is talking at the University of Florida on Thursday |
| Jakyl25 10/21/17 4:29:02 PM #409 | ExThaNemesis posted...
http://www.dsausa.org/ --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 12:14:21 PM #28 | Passive noninterference is a high bar for this administration though --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/21/17 9:34:06 AM #20 | http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/21/politics/trump-jfk-documents/index.html Finally we will learn the truth about Ted Cruzs dad --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/20/17 11:09:09 PM #19 | https://twitter.com/sheriffclarke/status/921262401814761472 Former Sherriff Clarke with a great accidental self-own --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 422: It's The Great Pumpkin, Sister Abigail |
| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:56:48 PM #199 | SSJBKK20Vegito posted... Jakyl25 posted...It's a virus (in this case) that spreads over the air. He could conceivably infect them with his presence. If left untreated But sorry, modern hospital treatment is very effective here --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 422: It's The Great Pumpkin, Sister Abigail |
| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:55:20 PM #198 | Oh, Tom meant what someone with meningitis could accomplish, not what could someone do with the literal pathogens they possess <_< It gives you the worst headache of your life, a stiff neck, and a fever. You can still get up and walk around if you can tough it out. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 422: It's The Great Pumpkin, Sister Abigail |
| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:51:39 PM #194 | VeryInsane posted... On the other hand, what if Angle gets taken out, and BRAUN switches sides for no reason? If you need a random alignment turn, Kane is RIGHT THERE --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 422: It's The Great Pumpkin, Sister Abigail |
| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:50:36 PM #193 | It's a virus (in this case) that spreads over the air. He could conceivably infect them with his presence. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 422: It's The Great Pumpkin, Sister Abigail |
| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:45:34 PM #189 | Tom Bombadil posted... so then....Angleshield gets killed and then Roman comes in on a stretcher and wins the match with three superman punches? "He's here to give Team Miz meningitis!" "If they thought dealing with The Shield was a headache before, Cole, they haven't seen anything yet!" --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 422: It's The Great Pumpkin, Sister Abigail |
| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:40:24 PM #186 | RaidenZeroX posted... Think of the option that will help get Reigns over the most. "Jason Jordan?? Boo! I wish it was Roman!" --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
| Topic | All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 422: It's The Great Pumpkin, Sister Abigail |
| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:32:14 PM #184 | JetJaguar posted... Taking Angle out of the match and replacing him with Jason Jordan would put heat on Jordan and the company, not the heels WE know that But does Vince? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:27:50 PM #180 | Would WWE do this or is this too swervy: Have the heels "take out" Angle before the match to get more heat, and give them a better excuse to put Jason Jordan in the match instead of just gifting it to him --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:23:25 PM #18 | FFDragon posted... Wilson took to CNN's "New Day" Friday morning and accused Kelly of lying, noting that she "was not even in Congress in 2009 when the money for the building was secured." Alternative fact checkers --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/20/17 9:21:25 PM #179 | Who was that proto-version of the Shield WWE pitched to Punk? Big Show, Rollins, and ?? All I remember is that it was a main roster guy. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvGKDK2WIAAmKTf?format=jpg&name=large |
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| Jakyl25 10/20/17 8:26:39 PM #15 | |
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