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| Topic | Donald Trump just withdrew the invitation to the White House to Steph Curry |
| The Great Muta 22 09/23/17 10:37:13 AM #32 | thronedfire2 posted... Literally this It's the same shit he did with those committees that disbanded after his inane reaction to Charlottesville. "I WAS GOING TO DISBAND THEM ANYWAY, YOU GUYS NEVER QUIT, I WIN!" is a tactic used by him often. Also used by his online trolls who rage quit when things don't go their way --- |
| Topic | Hey Gavi, how is your court case going? |
| The Great Muta 22 09/23/17 9:45:47 AM #233 | Wow what a complete and utter piece of shit this guy is. Dude deserves all the time he gets locked in a cell --- |
| Topic | Trump to NFL owners: Fire players who dont stand for the national anthem |
| The Great Muta 22 09/23/17 9:39:43 AM #100 | Trump can't help but remind everyone how a much of a thin skinned child that he really always has been --- |
| Topic | Donald Trump just withdrew the invitation to the White House to Steph Curry |
| The Great Muta 22 09/23/17 9:30:43 AM #14 | Trumps going to do this every year, isn't he? Because we all know the Warriors will be winning the title every year of his term --- |
| Topic | I find it hilarious how most pro athletes go broke within a couple years. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 2:05:07 PM #31 | The vibe I get from the TC is he's a bitter and unathletic nerd who needs to belittle others struggles because he was picked on as a kid. Let go of your hate buddy --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 1:11:38 PM #143 | The Admiral posted... You just proved my point, so thank you. Why it's so hard for you to assign any blame to a leftist who showed up with mace and assaulted innocent people (e.g. this journalist) is unfathomable to me. It's stubbornness out of insecurity for your side's position. There wasn't innocent people marching alongside neo Nazis, barring situations where someone was undercover and infiltrating them(dicey issue itself, see undercover cops). Anyone there marching was a scum bag trying to incite violence. And I want to know, do you believe Heathers death was the fault of the left? Seeing as you think they were the ones who started everything anyway And trust me buddy, I'm far more secure in my political position and life than you'll ever be. I don't need to lie about my religion to get online dates, for starters. --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:59:39 PM #141 | The Admiral posted... My issue with you and this board is the claim that the leftist protesters who showed up with mace and baseball bats and initiated violence in many cases are blameless and justified in their violence. Marching in the streets in paramilitary gear with concealed weapons while chanting inciting phrases and using inciting imagery means they imitated the violence. You fucking disgust me --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:57:13 PM #136 | The Admiral posted...
You honestly are blaming the left for the violence in Charlottesville despite the evidence before the event showing the violent intent, the coordination of the event between white supremacists, the actions taken by the violent alt fighters to incite violence during the event, etc. Just fucking admit you blame the left for Heathers death already like we all know you believe --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:51:51 PM #131 | The Admiral posted... RaptorLC posted...See, that's the main thing. I am on the same side that my grandfather was 75 years ago - against the Nazis, and he did a lot more than just punch them. No, you just refuse to see how the neo Nazis were trying to incite violence and therefore deserve the brunt of the blame for what happened in Charlottesville. You can try to defend it all you want, the entire UtR march was layered in violence and they are to blame for the events that happened. I don't give a shit if that bothers you, that's reality --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:39:10 PM #113 | LordRazziel posted... I doubt he is a bad guy. I'm betting things would go much better, if you spoke to him IRL. Here, he just plays "I'm right" in his head. But then his whole facade about being a successful businessman who spends his days lying about being Jewish to hook up with Jewish woman on dating sites would be exposed, so of course he can't have that --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:36:52 PM #107 | The Admiral posted... I'm not sure why you don't think it's possible to condemn both the idiot who ran over people with his car AND SIMULTANEOUSLY all the idiots on the left who showed up with mace and baseball bats to start violence. Do I need to post the Discord chat logs that were involved with the direct coordination of the UtR talking about how to hide weapons, memes about running over protesters, what legal weapons were allowed, what offensive and provokitive chants, among other things again? The fact that you blame the left for the violence in Charlottesville is fucking pathetic, much like you --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:33:20 PM #105 | The Admiral posted... It's no surprise that a writer who goes undercover to expose hatred on the right was assaulted by the left. But to you guys, they're the heroes. And folks like Raptor thinks it's trolling to condemn that behavior Seems to be that the writer still finds fault with the alt right and seems to recognize they're to blame for his making. Why do you think you know better than someone who was actually there and infiltrated this group? --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:27:34 PM #96 | NINExATExSEVEN posted... The alt right doesn't have leaders. It's a collection of ideas. Wrong. Spencer popularized the term and owns the web domain "altright.com". Dude is absolutely one of the figurehead and leaders of this movement Nepsy posted... Why not infiltrate Antifa? You get to wear a mask to conceal your identity and you torch cars and buildings in the name of hating Trump! Sounds like you're a pissy alt righter that is mad people are recognizing how toxic your shitty ideology is tbh --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:14:40 PM #75 | The Admiral posted... Yes it is. You're never winning the "your words become violence once they upset me" argument. Sorry, you're going to need another tact to justify your outrage on this one. No it isn't --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:12:45 PM #73 | The Admiral posted... The Great Muta 22 posted...I take it Addy didn't read the article or watch the hidden camera interviews where the one leader calls for a forceful ethno cleansing and Muslims being forced into concentration camps? When a speaker and leader of this movement is vocalizing and preaching "Its going to end with concentration camps and expulsions and war" in regards to Muslims, it's no longer "ideas remaining on his head", you dolt --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:05:48 PM #63 | NurseRedHeart posted... Antifa antagonized the citizens in Charlottesville with their usual violence, looting, and destructive protesting but whatev. Imagine thinking a neo Nazi march chanting "FUCK YOU F******" among other things inst antagonizing others. Nice to see the scumbags are back to defending the neo Nazis tho --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 12:03:23 PM #61 | I take it Addy didn't read the article or watch the hidden camera interviews where the one leader calls for a forceful ethno cleansing and Muslims being forced into concentration camps? Or perhaps he doesn't think that's violence, who knows --- |
| Topic | NYT: Undercover with the Alt-Right |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 11:21:12 AM #1 | https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/opinion/alt-right-white-supremacy-undercover.html Mr. Hermansson’s story offers vital insights into these groups’ tactics and their sometimes bizarre practices. During his time undercover, he hung out with heavily armed Holocaust deniers and attended gatherings where extremists drank mead from a traditional Viking horn and prayed to the Norse god Odin. In Charlottesville, he marched alongside hundreds of young neo-Nazis and white supremacists before he was sprayed with Mace by a counterprotester and witnessed the car attack that killed Heather Heyer. In Britain, Mr. Hermansson attended a private dinner of extremists where Greg Johnson, a reclusive leading American far-right figure who is editor in chief of Counter-Currents Publishing, explained the need to “mainstream this stuff — or, more precisely, we need to bring the mainstream towards us.” Mr. Johnson later expressed confidence that this process is working. “I see the upward curve in web traffic, and the upward trend in quality and quantity of younger people getting involved,” he told Mr. Hermansson in conversation captured on hidden-camera footage. (During that same chat, he said he believed in ethnic homelands and favored telling Jews, “You need to go to Israel or we’re going to freeze you out of our society.”) This goal of mainstreaming is an abiding fixation of the far right, whose members are well aware of the problems their movement has had with attracting young people in recent decades. At one point in Mr. Hermansson’s footage, Colin Robertson, a far-right YouTube personality who goes by the name Millennial Woes, explained to an older extremist the importance of putting forward a friendly, accessible face: “If we don’t appear like angry misfits, then we will end up making friendships with people who don’t agree with us,” he said. --- |
| Topic | Emmy Awards Match All-Time Low Of 2016 With 11.4M Viewers; Hits Demo Low |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 11:03:15 AM #28 | Network TV ratings are down? In 2017? I'm totally shocked by this startling revelation --- |
| Topic | Nazi in Seattle threw banana at passerby |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 10:59:54 AM #106 | BarneyBosco posted... You're clearly irrational. You can't even address my point. Instead you're still on the nazi binge. Then your use of selective quoting to try and take my point out of context is just plain pathetic. You're not worth talking to further So you admit to ignoring context and his point, call someone else out for ignoring and claim out of context, and then run away. And he's the joke? Lmao pot meet kettle --- |
| Topic | Nazi in Seattle threw banana at passerby |
| The Great Muta 22 09/20/17 10:35:39 AM #98 | BarneyBosco posted... I don't care about any of that. If you can't concede you don't go around slugging people you have problems. That attack in the clip was not self defense. But keep ignoring that and go back to hating those you don't agree with. You got a lot of balls to call someone else out for ignoring something while admitting you're ignoring stuff that you don't like --- |
| Topic | Aww, damn. Admiral's topic got locked :( |
| The Great Muta 22 09/19/17 1:47:16 PM #5 | It was heading down a shitty path and the only thing coming from it was people hurling random insults and stereotypes back and forth. Fuck it --- |
| Topic | Nazi in Seattle threw banana at passerby |
| The Great Muta 22 09/19/17 10:06:19 AM #47 | Trying to instigate a violent reaction from people is not legally protected. It's, at best, a messy situation that's been debated upon in the USSC with conflicting results. "Fighting words" are an actual thing, despite what people who want to troll in real life think --- |
| Topic | Nazi in Seattle threw banana at passerby |
| The Great Muta 22 09/19/17 9:44:51 AM #40 | Look at Mal still trying to shit talk others despite admitting this guy was in the wrong. Totally a serious posted. And calling for a peaceful ethno cleansing is violent dude, which is what Spencer clearly did prior to being socked. --- |
| Topic | Nazi in Seattle knocked out today. Part 2 |
| The Great Muta 22 09/19/17 9:29:41 AM #468 | He was allegedly shouting racial slurs and threw a banana at one of the people before he got knocked out. But no he was just "peacefully minding his own business and was assaulted". Okay, sure --- |
| Topic | Nazi in Seattle knocked out today. Part 2 |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 2:03:51 PM #47 | By the way Addy, who don't you stop pulling punches and using thug when we all know you want to drop the N word --- |
| Topic | Nazi in Seattle knocked out today. Part 2 |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 2:02:45 PM #42 | Here's the thing, if seeing someone getting punched for being a neo Nazi suddenly makes you feel sympathy for said neo Nazi and likewise think it justifies what they say, you're likely already a shitty person --- |
| Topic | Nazi in Seattle knocked out today. Part 2 |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 1:55:32 PM #24 | Mal_Fet posted... Omega Hunter posted...When did I say that. I don't support violence against muslims Meltdown activated --- |
| Topic | Nazi in seattle knocked out today. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 1:37:32 PM #480 | We've had this discussion before Mal where I tired to explain to you that Hitler and the rest of the early members of the party used far left terminology and ideas while courting and uniting the right, pun intended, but I'm literally sitting on my phone on a deck watching the ocean on vacation and having a beer, so I'm not pulling the quotes up. If you really want to gain knowledge and discuss this I will this weekend when I'm home, but we both know you will always blame every negative "group" in history with your mythical left while acting as if the entity of right will always be correct and peaceful, so what's the point? --- |
| Topic | Nazi in seattle knocked out today. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 1:24:25 PM #462 | Mal_Fet posted... Because it was. All of the fascist thinkers at the time were socialists or former socialists. Nope. Do your research before you spout off ignorant beliefs. The early foundations of Nazism rose out of the rural far right nationalist groups that hated the Social Democrats, Bolsheviks, Globalists, and of course the Jews. Keep believing your shitty "The Big Lie" source though. I feel bad for your lack of education --- |
| Topic | Nazi in seattle knocked out today. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 1:10:24 PM #433 | sktgamer_13dude posted... You do realize Hitler and the Nazi party were voted into power right? They didn't just take it. You're talking about people who think Nazism was a far left movement that didn't see the beginning of its rise in rural beer halls and countryside and viewed Marxism as their primary enemies... So I mean, their knowledge on the subject matter is lacking at best --- |
| Topic | Nazi in seattle knocked out today. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 12:56:18 PM #410 | Fecundity posted... The same people in here trying to draw a distinction between "violent Nazis versus non-violent Nazis," would lose their shit if the conversation were between "child molesters and paedophiles who haven't done anything wrong yet and are in need of help." Same people believe the Charlottesville protests were fine that would lose their minds if ISIS marched through the streets --- |
| Topic | Nazi in seattle knocked out today. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 12:29:14 PM #357 | It would also be helpful to see the whole video or hear what was being said prior to the scumbag fucked getting knocked out. Because as much as the "muhfreezepeach!" crowd likes to ignore it, incitement or fighting words are actual things and they do shape the result in the legality of things like this. --- |
| Topic | Nazi in seattle knocked out today. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/18/17 12:24:31 PM #350 | There's been a lot of ignorant things said in this topic but one that went under the radar was Mal claiming no one attacked actual Nazis until they invaded Poland while he insulted someone else's lack of an education. As if riots and brawls in the streets weren't a thing used in the early 1930s and intact pointed to by Hitler as evidence of the "violent and extreme Bolsheviks and Marxists out to destroy society". Don't call out someone eleses education if you're ignorant yourself Mal. That or the whole part where he equates Nazis to the entire left lmao --- |
| Topic | IPAs are a fucking meme and need to stop |
| The Great Muta 22 09/17/17 7:46:59 PM #32 | |
| Topic | LIVE NOW: Ben Shapiro's speech and outside coverage of campus. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/15/17 12:02:49 AM #68 | Zeeak4444 posted... You think he ever will? I know I saw him on one if the CNN shows when I was flipping through recently, but the only one I usually watch is Smerconish but I don't think it was him. It may have actually been on Don Lemons show --- |
| Topic | Martin Shkreli: You can be jailed for joking around on twitter now? |
| The Great Muta 22 09/14/17 5:28:39 PM #8 | |
| Topic | In true snowflake fashion, White House calls for ESPN to fire host who dared |
| The Great Muta 22 09/13/17 6:50:30 PM #30 | eaglei3 posted... ESPN should apologize and offer to hire back prior employees fired for similar controversial statements or fire her. The double standard looks bad on ESPN's part. They already hired back Hank Williams Jr who claimed Obama was a Muslim who hated America tho... --- |
| Topic | Liberals say DACA dreamers shouldn't be responsible for sins of their fathers |
| The Great Muta 22 09/13/17 1:29:28 PM #5 | BillyKidd posted... Last time I collected a paycheck and had money deducted from it. That doesn't happen --- |
| Topic | Do you think academics are arrogant and self-absorbed? |
| The Great Muta 22 09/13/17 1:16:05 PM #5 | I'd consider it more arrogant to think you're brighter than those in academics and therefore don't need them --- |
| Topic | Berkeley giving COUNCILING to students because a right-wing guy will be there |
| The Great Muta 22 09/12/17 7:58:31 PM #214 | Mal_Fet posted... hockeybub89 posted...But those would be left-wing, anti-government extremists and wouldn't be called right-wing. Why are you making up shit? You can't be a party that's generally for a less powerful centralized government while at the same time saying that anti government people aren't your extremes Mal. --- |
| Topic | Berkeley giving COUNCILING to students because a right-wing guy will be there |
| The Great Muta 22 09/12/17 1:16:45 PM #107 | GregShmedley posted... The Great Muta 22 posted...thelovefist posted... I literally said that the majority of people on anyside disagree with violence... --- |
| Topic | Berkeley giving COUNCILING to students because a right-wing guy will be there |
| The Great Muta 22 09/12/17 1:14:01 PM #100 | The Admiral posted... The Great Muta 22 posted...Oh and couldn't it easily be argued that whole the students who want this are acting illogical that the university is doing a positive to redirect potential violence to a counciling session? Point to where I've ever condoned violence being used for this reason. Or are you doing the thing where you argue what you want someone to have said in order to feel like you've won? You know, the same tactic you bitch about? --- |
| Topic | Berkeley giving COUNCILING to students because a right-wing guy will be there |
| The Great Muta 22 09/12/17 1:11:36 PM #92 | thelovefist posted...
No? The majority of people on all "sides" disagree with violence. I was stating a university taking steps to prevent such violence is actually a positive thing --- |
| Topic | Berkeley giving COUNCILING to students because a right-wing guy will be there |
| The Great Muta 22 09/12/17 1:08:56 PM #88 | Dustin1280 posted... But don't tell me someone that actually requires counseling for some words a speaker says isn't damaged... Well no shit. Anyone willing to get into a violent protest is likely suffering from mental issues and have rage control problems --- |
| Topic | Berkeley giving COUNCILING to students because a right-wing guy will be there |
| The Great Muta 22 09/12/17 1:07:19 PM #83 | And yeah, Shapiro isn't alt right, he's one of the smug self masturbatory type conservatives who arr acfually fairly intelligent yet lack the subtlety to not come off as douchebags. Well that may be more describing his fans than him --- |
| Topic | Berkeley giving COUNCILING to students because a right-wing guy will be there |
| The Great Muta 22 09/12/17 1:05:16 PM #77 | Oh and couldn't it easily be argued that whole the students who want this are acting illogical that the university is doing a positive to redirect potential violence to a counciling session? Unless you guys actually want the violence to happen at these events in order to keep pushing the divisive "all liberals and leftists are violent crybabies!" narrative going.... Nah that can't be it... --- |
| Topic | Berkeley giving COUNCILING to students because a right-wing guy will be there |
| The Great Muta 22 09/12/17 12:42:21 PM #30 | KhlavicLanguage posted... Mal_Fet posted...Tmaster148 posted...I wonder if there'll be counseling for people like Mal who can't stop obsessing over what Berkeley is doing. If Mal couldn't be an angry pissy person crying all day over people with a different political opinion than hom, then what else would he do? --- |
| Topic | The EU is forcing Sweden to end its border controls on November 12th. |
| The Great Muta 22 09/06/17 10:26:26 AM #26 | NinjaBreakfast posted... I love all these Americans on CE who have hardly left their home state yet are somehow experts on the inner workings of numerous European countries. Hey, you're on CE man, where everyone is an expert about everything everywhere in the world and to where admit you may not be informed as others is a sign of weakness. --- |
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