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TopicThe Greatest Showman is great if you view it as about Hugh Jackman's past life.
OctilIery
12/22/17 9:44:53 PM
#1
As a PT Barnum biopic? LOL it's nowhere close to being accurate, the guy was a total scumbag. But it was a fun movie with good music and some downright beautiful scenes. Not amazing, but fun to watch.
TopicThe fact that the Wild Cards show isn't going to be on HBO is such a waste.
OctilIery
12/20/17 2:46:31 PM
#8
DuranOfForcena posted...
OctilIery posted...
First off, it means George R. R. Martin can't supervise it at all

why does it mean that? i don't get it.

He has an exclusivity contract with hbo.
TopicThe fact that the Wild Cards show isn't going to be on HBO is such a waste.
OctilIery
12/20/17 1:06:35 PM
#6
Bad_Mojo posted...
When the fuck did they announce this was going to be a show?

Last year.

DarthAragorn posted...
OctilIery posted...
it means George R. R. Martin can't supervise it at all

Good

Nah, it's his series he should be able to work on it.
TopicWoman has sex with a manager and walks out of job interview with a job
OctilIery
12/20/17 3:15:31 AM
#18
Anisoptera posted...
JustMonika posted...
Imagine having to have sex with the boss for a job at McDonald's


Imagine applying for a job that hundreds of others are applying for and you have to give an answer to why a manager should hire you instead of the 1,000 other people wanting the same job .

I think you're overestimating how many people apply for it. I worked fast food and managed applications, generally if you get an interview you get the job unless you fuck up.
TopicThe fact that the Wild Cards show isn't going to be on HBO is such a waste.
OctilIery
12/20/17 3:10:17 AM
#1
First off, it means George R. R. Martin can't supervise it at all, despite being the editor for the entire series, and despite him having worked on it even longer than Song of Ice and Fire.

Second, the series has some very adult themes and settings. I'm only getting through the first book, and there's plenty of stuff basic cable couldn't do. An 8 year old amphetamine addict, one of the main heroes being a pimp, multiple scenes in strip clubs(hell, Jokertown in general will have to be so toned down).
TopicSWEDEN: 5 youths walk free after gang raping a woman in a stairwell
OctilIery
12/19/17 1:54:57 PM
#47
TheRealDill2000 posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
TheRealDill2000 posted...
This seems fair. They wouldn't be released if there was sufficient evidence available.


Their semen was on her clothes, and the nurse who deals with that kind of stuff all the time, testified that the damage done to her was especially gruesome.

This is a criminal investigation. I don't see the relevance of a nurse's input.

Well, the semen seems to prove that sex did happen. The damage done supports that it wasn't consensual.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/19/17 1:52:51 PM
#40
Bump for truth
Topicok so why did you not like The Last Jedi SPOILERS
OctilIery
12/17/17 10:00:35 PM
#62
AlternativeFAQS posted...
yeah the biggest problem is half the plot happens because Holdo doest share her plan with one of her main fighters... which doesn't make any sense.

She doesn't share her plan with a man who has just proven himself to be unreliable and impulsive, having gotten almost an entire fleet killed because he went off trying to be a hero. She had plenty of justification to not tell him.
Topicok so why did you not like The Last Jedi SPOILERS
OctilIery
12/17/17 9:29:51 PM
#35
s0nicfan posted...
Ammonitida posted...
That's false. Finn and Rose brought back the traitor whose treachery set up the final act on the abandoned rebel base. Had Poe not mutinied and orchestrated that subplot, everyone would have lived. It was a subversion of another space opera trope. Unfortunately, Poe didn't show any guilt IIRC.


Had Leia's replacement not been a complete and total bitch, REPEATEDLY refusing to even acknowledge that she even had a plan, all the while shitting all over an established hero of the rebellion, Poe wouldn't have revolted. He didn't show guilt because he did what was right with the information he had.

So you miss the whole point of how throwing your life away and big flashy plans don't make you a hero?
Topicok so why did you not like The Last Jedi SPOILERS
OctilIery
12/17/17 9:28:30 PM
#32
The Admiral posted...
Girl power > decades of training with a Jedi master

An entire lifetime spent defending yourself with a staff > a lifetime where your last several years have been spent in isolation with no training.
TopicI know why audiences are so upset about Star Wars: The Last Jedi... *Spoilers*
OctilIery
12/17/17 9:25:34 PM
#7
Skye Reynolds posted...
I'm just annoyed that it isn't Finn and Rey.

If the leads are a man and a woman, they'll be lovers 4 out of 5 times. But if the male lead is black, that's when the male lead is just a friend or has a minority love interest. Disney does have a black male / white female couple with Luke Cage and Jessica Jones, so I can't act like they've never done it, but I think Rey and Finn had a legit chemistry together and would've made for a good couple.

Or maybe, just maybe, the female lead doesn't need a love interest?
TopicStars Wats The Last Jedi was RUBBISH *spoliers*
OctilIery
12/16/17 9:54:30 PM
#68
Offworlder1 posted...
@OctilIery

The EU is still better then the shit show that is the ST.

Lol no. If we were going by the EU, we'd have the Jedi Academy Trilogy. Which was atrocious. If you complain about Kylo but not Kyp Durron you're delusional.
Topicpeople are now getting to the hospital on uber instead of calling the ambulance
OctilIery
12/16/17 9:48:32 PM
#13
Damn_Underscore posted...
the ambulance is never "free", you are paying for it through taxes

Which is better than a family going in debt because they need it.
TopicStars Wats The Last Jedi was RUBBISH *spoliers*
OctilIery
12/16/17 9:45:15 PM
#66
littlebro07 posted...
SaccharineSmile posted...
1) was there even any gun fights with the Storm Troppers? i saw none


They were firing at BB8 when he saved the day in an ATST iirc

Yeah, there was a gun fight going on while Finn was fighting Phasma.
TopicStars Wats The Last Jedi was RUBBISH *spoliers*
OctilIery
12/16/17 9:44:37 PM
#65
Offworlder1 posted...
@3khc

Well before disney the rumor was that the original plan for the sequel trilogy was that Luke would have an established school, there are three expys of Jacen, Jania, and Ben who would be the new heroes, the introduction of a new enemy, the old heroes helping the youngsters but still going out to fight, the mandalorians either being the main enemy or some other faction, etc.

Mostly based on EU material but still a very good premise for the ST where the ROTJ victory actually mattered. Remnants of the empire are still a threat, and Thrawn would have been there as a big bad.

Han and Leia were also still in there as a couple, Lando was present helping the kids travel as was Chewbacca, Lowbacca was also going to be there as a wookie jedi which was something many fans wanted to see on the big screen.

The ST planned was so much better and more interesting, instead we have gotten this recycled bastadization that picks and choses random EU things to go with but fuck up.

Thank God none of that EU crap made it in. There are good things in the EU, but most was bad.

Also I find it funny that Chewbacca, the only major OT character to die in the EU books, will possibly be the only major OT character to survive the new Trilogy.
Topicpeople are now getting to the hospital on uber instead of calling the ambulance
OctilIery
12/16/17 9:39:43 PM
#7
Rika_Furude posted...
ambulance is free in australia, as it should be
why the FUCK do you have to pay for it in america?

Because privatization.
TopicThere are more mediocre Star Wars movies than there are good ones
OctilIery
12/16/17 8:02:27 PM
#4
Zack_Attackv1 posted...
^ Horse shit.

Nope.
TopicThere are more mediocre Star Wars movies than there are good ones
OctilIery
12/16/17 8:01:04 PM
#2
Only the prequel Trilogy is mediocre, so no.
TopicStars Wats The Last Jedi was RUBBISH *spoliers*
OctilIery
12/16/17 8:00:05 PM
#26
literal_garbage posted...
Star Wars has always been very good at explaining the technology and being based in science.

... Lol
TopicStars Wats The Last Jedi was RUBBISH *spoliers*
OctilIery
12/16/17 7:58:53 PM
#25
It was easily top 3, probably second best behind ESB.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/16/17 7:34:05 PM
#38
The more I think and talk on TLJ, the better it is. I think it's my favorite alongside ESB now, or close behind it.
TopicSo why did kylo ren.............? The Last Jedi ****!!!!!Spoilers!!!!***
OctilIery
12/16/17 2:55:56 PM
#38
Smallville posted...
what? i don't get your post, i read another article where it said it doesn't really explain why if snoke is dead why they still have that connection

Two main theories are either that Snoke established the connection but wasn't maintaining it, or that Snoke lied about making it.
TopicSo why did kylo ren.............? The Last Jedi ****!!!!!Spoilers!!!!***
OctilIery
12/16/17 2:52:58 PM
#36
jumi posted...
I liked how Kylo just grabbed Hux by the balls and told him he was in charge, when in the OT Vader was basically Tarkin's bitch.

Vader wasn't Tarkin's bitch, Vader just respected Tarkin, and Tarkin knew not to piss him off.
TopicSo why did kylo ren.............? The Last Jedi ****!!!!!Spoilers!!!!***
OctilIery
12/16/17 2:51:59 PM
#35
The Admiral posted...
Because Rian Johnson like the character, and the writers weren't good enough to come up with a better way to get rid of him. The script was horseshit, and every scene with Snoke in the previous film was basically a waste of time.

The script was great though. The whole point of the story is that literally anyone can be a hero or villain. You don't have to have some big backstory, you don't have to have a great family.

As for killing him, it fit. It's the Sith cycle, for one, and for two, Kylo was focused on moving on from the old. Keeping him around would've made far less sense.
TopicSo why did kylo ren.............? The Last Jedi ****!!!!!Spoilers!!!!***
OctilIery
12/16/17 12:12:52 AM
#18
Smallville posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Kylo wanted to bone Rey more than he wanted to be Snoke's lackey.

Did any of you think that rey and kylo were gonna turn out to be brother and sister?

That would make absolutely no sense.
TopicFederal Judge issues nationwide injunction on Trump's contraception exceptions.
OctilIery
12/15/17 7:36:04 PM
#28
Literally every girl I know on birth control takes it at least in part because of the medical aspect.
Topic[The perfect body that never ages][$1 billion]
OctilIery
12/15/17 7:29:55 PM
#20
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Lonestar2000 posted...
With the perfect body you could basically live forever.

You're right, that sounds horrible. Money plz

Nah. Being able to live forever is good as long as it can be ended.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 4:04:17 PM
#34
mehmeh1 posted...
I found the shirtless kylomoment weird and out of place, but hilarious

Actually that does bring up another moment. A lot of the comedy just felt kind of weird and out of place :/
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 2:50:54 PM
#32
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
Wait, so Han *and* Luke are dead now?

Ugh, this is why I haven't bothered to see the new trilogy yet, my biggest fear is that it would just be an excuse to get rid of characters I loved while replacing them with nobody worthwhile as I've heard absolutely nothing about Rey or Kylo that makes me want to watch them in action. (Quite the opposite actually, they come off as the worst parts of both movies.)

I guess I'll just be skipping the new trilogy, it doesn't seem like there's anything in it for me to look forward to.

They die, but it's good endings to their stories, especially for Luke. Rey, Kylo, and Finn are all fantastic.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 2:20:06 PM
#24
s0nicfan posted...
Are you sure you're not confusing Leia and Han with Leia and Luke? Luke maintains full faith in the resistance and in his place as a jedi all the way through. It's Han who consistently questions the merits of everything.

Did you miss the whole part in ROTJ where Luke was bordering on turning to the dark side?
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 2:19:17 PM
#23
Spiritlittle posted...
s0nicfan posted...
OctilIery posted...
Surely that has nothing to do with them being supremely powerful sith lords, right? They aren't spineless, they know his power. And no, Luke's ark was fantastic. He saw the failure in himself and the dangers it created. He saw the history of the Jedi order. It made sense, and he had good growth in the movie.


Agree to disagree, then. I don't see Luke turning down on a request to help his sister as "fantastic". I saw it as a violation of everything that Luke stood for. He wasn't "Luke", he was a bitter old man used as a vehicle to make a point about the Jedi Order for the audience.

But that's the whole point. Leia and Luke are established as opposites very early in the franchise, and this film shows that Leia will never lose hope, so it makes sense that Luke has.

Spoiler tag that btw >.>

I agree about Leia not losing hope. I wish her use of the force had been more similar to that, showing Leia supporting people through the force instead of just saving herself.

Also, the movie would've been infinitely better if they cut out Rose. Have Holdo tell Poe about the plan, have Poe disagree and insist on trying to save her and be a hero. Give Poe an actual character arc about learning what a hero is. Then at the end, rather than having Rose save Finn and(as far as she knew) doom the rebellion, have Poe sacrifice himself, giving him a close to his character arc and making a powerful moment.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 2:16:25 PM
#20
boxington posted...
from what I can remember Rey kills Snoke, Rey's parents are apparently normal people, and Leia lives while Luke dies

First is wrong, other two are true, but not nearly huge enough to ruin the movie. There are much bigger parts.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 2:09:41 PM
#16
boxington posted...
What did he spoil? I'll tell you how important the spoilers are?


it was Izaul, so pretty much everything major in the topic title

I didn't see the topic though
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 2:09:26 PM
#15
s0nicfan posted...
OctilIery posted...
I already said I didn't like flying leia. Luke didn't undo everything the rebellion worked for, he made a mistake, and had a good arc of coming to terms with it in the movie. Luke was honestly one of the best parts. Also, when did they have "any old leader" become supreme leader? And yes, the ending was good. It showed the Jedi aren't done. It reinforced the idea from the original trilogy that any old nobody could be a hero, and that there was still hope in the galaxy.


I meant specifically with Luke losing hope, abandoning the force, and becoming a bitter hermit that has no desire to go help his friends. I'm fine with his mistake happening. Also, it's not that Luke undid everything the rebellion worked for, but the plot did. By the end of the movie, the rebellion has the fewest surviving members, the fewest resources, the fewest allies, and is in the worst condition its ever been in. It makes the entire OG trilogy fight worthless. By "any old leader" I mean the fact that when Snoke dies, Kylo just sort of says "I'm the leader now" and the ENTIRE FIRST ORDER seems just fine with that. It makes the whole group seem way too spineless that not a single person said "hey, these assholes keep getting us killed, I'm not following some random kid that Snoke liked."

Surely that has nothing to do with them being supremely powerful sith lords, right? They aren't spineless, they know his power. And no, Luke's ark was fantastic. He saw the failure in himself and the dangers it created. He saw the history of the Jedi order. It made sense, and he had good growth in the movie.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 2:02:29 PM
#12
boxington posted...
I really wanted to see it, but that one butt munch spoiled it.

whenever I'm spoiled, I lose all anticipation for something.

What did he spoil? I'll tell you how important the spoilers are?

Electrokinesis posted...
I dunno. Ill sometimes spoil things for myself.

Should I see Rogue One before seeing this?

You should just because Rogue One is great, but they aren't connected.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 2:01:30 PM
#11
s0nicfan posted...
OctilIery posted...
s0nicfan posted...
I disliked that it shit all over everything the original trilogy stood for.

It really didn't though.


You honestly think that what they did to Luke fits the character we saw grow over the original trilogy? You think completely undoing everything the rebellion had worked for so the next movie can redo the "small group against impossible odds" story is a good thing? You think that making the empire such that any old asshole can just sit in a chair and suddenly become supreme leader is reasonable? You think ending on a tease that's effectively "hey, remember episode 1?" was good service to the series? You liked Leia flying?

I already said I didn't like flying leia. Luke didn't undo everything the rebellion worked for, he made a mistake, and had a good arc of coming to terms with it in the movie. Luke was honestly one of the best parts. Also, when did they have "any old leader" become supreme leader? And yes, the ending was good. It showed the Jedi aren't done. It reinforced the idea from the original trilogy that any old nobody could be a hero, and that there was still hope in the galaxy.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 1:31:44 PM
#7
s0nicfan posted...
I disliked that it shit all over everything the original trilogy stood for.

It really didn't though.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 1:06:13 PM
#4
InstaReturns posted...
Saw it last night, aside from cool scenes I thought it was really boring

The Finn and Rose scenes were the weak point for me, everything outside that and Leia flying was fantastic. And even then, Finn and Rose had a couple good points...or at least Finn did.
TopicThe Last Jedi was fantastic, behind just A New Hope and ESB.
OctilIery
12/15/17 12:59:41 PM
#1
There were a couple problems with it, but nothing that stopped the rest of the movie from working, and what did work was amazingly good.
TopicI just clicked a star wars topic on habit
OctilIery
12/14/17 7:29:07 PM
#1
I've been so good about avoiding spoilers, why would I take such a chance

Of course, I'm also not reading this topic until after I see it tonight
TopicNew Bill Aims to Ban Loot Boxes for Minors Under 21
OctilIery
12/14/17 7:24:16 PM
#28
And it'll fail. Loot boxes are no different than MTG and other card games
TopicReminder that Net Neutrality isn't done yet.
OctilIery
12/14/17 6:15:43 PM
#24
TheBiggerWiggle posted...
It won't matter. I'm sure the courts have been paid off too. This government doesn't work for the average citizen anymore.

Not likely.
TopicTintin is such an underrated movie. Some of the best action scenes ever.
OctilIery
12/14/17 4:29:49 PM
#15
NibeIungsnarf posted...
OctilIery posted...
That just sounds like bad taste.

So does your Spielberg claim.

Not at all.
TopicTintin is such an underrated movie. Some of the best action scenes ever.
OctilIery
12/14/17 4:17:02 PM
#13
DuranOfForcena posted...
i read a lot of the Tintin books when i was younger and would borrow them from the local library, and i liked them very much, but i never got around to seeing the movie. i heard it wasn't that good tbh.

Idk how accurate it is to Tintin, but it's a legitimately good movie. Easily the best chase scene of the decade in it, too.
TopicTintin is such an underrated movie. Some of the best action scenes ever.
OctilIery
12/14/17 4:16:00 PM
#12
ForestLogic posted...
Loved that movie, really solid animation and fun story.

We're talking about the CGI one from a couple years ago, right?

Yup yup!

NibeIungsnarf posted...
OctilIery posted...
You need to watch it again. It was legitimately fantastic, one of the best modern Spielberg movies.

None of that is true.

Like when I watched Tintin I didnt think it was a bad or mediocre movie. I straight up despised it.

That just sounds like bad taste.
TopicTintin is such an underrated movie. Some of the best action scenes ever.
OctilIery
12/14/17 4:10:22 PM
#5
NibeIungsnarf posted...
It was a really bad movie from what I recall, but I only saw it the once and don't remember enough to argue the point.

You need to watch it again. It was legitimately fantastic, one of the best modern Spielberg movies.
TopicTintin is such an underrated movie. Some of the best action scenes ever.
OctilIery
12/14/17 4:01:33 PM
#1
Can't wait for the sequel.
TopicReminder that Net Neutrality isn't done yet.
OctilIery
12/14/17 3:39:48 PM
#21
bover_87 posted...
NN isn't based upon what the public wants. It's based on whether the FCC made proper use of its powers.

Which they didn't.
TopicReminder that Net Neutrality isn't done yet.
OctilIery
12/14/17 2:57:35 PM
#19
bover_87 posted...
@OctilIery even if your case applies instead of Chevron, you'd have a hell of a time proving in court that Ajit et al. acted arbitrarily.

With all the controversy about comments let alone public disapproval? Hardly.
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