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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/10/02/usa-today-poll-americans-say-trump-wrong-nfl-protests/721809001/#

Most Americans say the protests by NFL players during the National Anthem are appropriate, a USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll finds, and they say, by overwhelming margins, that President Trump's heated criticism of them are not.

Two-thirds in the poll of registered voters, by 68%-27%, say Trump's call for NFL owners to fire the players and fans to boycott their games is inappropriate. That includes a third of Republicans as well as nine of 10 Democrats.

By 51%-42%, those surveyed say the players' protests are appropriate.

"They certainly have the right to express whatever they want," says Ryan Doyle, 19, a college student and Democratic-leaning independent from Manhattan Beach, Calif., who was among those surveyed. "It doesn't call for violence; it doesn't call for pain; it doesn't call for any dramatic act."

He adds: "Free speech is an innately American thing."

But Jim Littlejohn, 73, a retiree who lives in the Phoenix suburb of San Tan Valley, says the president has "done the right thing."

"My attitude towards the NFL is if you cannot respect the flag or the vets or whatever your animosity is, then stay in the locker room," he said in a follow-up interview.

The survey, taken Wednesday through Sunday by landline and cell phone, shows how much attention the silent protest has commanded in recent weeks. Just 8% of those surveyed didn't have an opinion about the players' protests. Even fewer, 5%, were undecided about Trump's criticism of them.

The poll of 1,000 registered voters has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points.

On Sunday, NFL players across the nation took a knee or linking arms during the National Anthem to demonstrate against Trump's comment that team owners should fire any "son of a bitch" who "disrespects our flag." Some fans booed them.

The protests have broadened in recent weeks since quarterback Colin Kaepernick began dropping to one knee during the anthem last year to highlight police brutality and racial discrimination.

Mike Conklin, 49, of Mesa, Arizona, an automotive technician and Trump supporter, scoffs at the idea of highly paid professional athletes spotlighting the issue of police brutality.

"These guys are making millions of dollars, and to say there's inequality with the police department is an absolute joke," he says. "Trump played the NFL like a fiddle and showed what true un-Americans these people are."

A third of those polled, 33%, say the protests make them less likely to attend a game or watch it on TV. Seven percent say it makes them more likely to watch a game, but most, 56%, say it wouldn't have any impact.

Views were sharply divided along partisan and racial lines.

About eight in 10 Democrats saw the players' protests as appropriate; eight in 10 Republicans call them inappropriate. More than nine in 10 Democrats call Trump's comments inappropriate; a 57% majority of Republicans say they are appropriate.

Whites are closely divided on whether the players' protests are appropriate; 44% say they are and 49% disagree. But blacks by a wide margin call them appropriate.

When it comes to the president's remarks, whites call them inappropriate by 2-1. Blacks overwhelmingly hold that view.

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unpleasant_milk posted...

Tl;dr

Old people don't have the money to retire and many now take up RVs and cruise the country seeking seasonal work.
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Wait, timed races...literally end when the clock runs out? They don't finish the lap, like the real world would?
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Balrog0 posted...

I don't think most democratic mayors in the south are black, although there are a few prominent examples

Hmm. On further inspection you're right. I was thinking of Atlanta and Jackson, but this doesn't seem to be a trend that's followed in other Southern cities.
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Bull Connor and George Wallace are not the same as [any of the black Democratic mayors that tend to run the blue cities of the south]
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I mean, a part of Spain just voted to secede. I'm not convinced that our divisions are sharper than other countries, just more public on spaces like this that are dominated by Americans.
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https://amp.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-shooting-gun-stocks-reaction-2017-10
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As always, be cautious about what you believe from early stories about this

https://twitter.com/broderick/status/914801273584709632
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Ah shit, this sucks
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I am willing to die on the hill of "it's good."
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Tropicalwood posted...

And the issue with that is the harbor union is on strike right now so there are all those supplies that aren't getting pushed.

Source on this? I'm not finding any trustworthy reports of a strike going on in PR
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Rika_Furude posted...

thats not the way the rest of the world sees you guys

They really should. We aren't out protesting tuition hikes the British, or marching over labor laws like the French. Our parties aren't actual parties with memberships and structures.
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Are there any timed races in career, or is that just a freeplay thing?
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Rika_Furude posted...

i never understood why americans have such an unhealthy obsession with politics

Compared to who, exactly? If anything, the stereotype of Americans is that we're uninterested in the subject, content to go about our day-to-day lives without much thought towards politics. Election turnout isn't a perfect measure of political interest, but it hardly suggests that we're obsessed.
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Which football
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This is a complete_idi0t topic, right?
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F1 AI is the superior racing AI


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I've found games to be much more open, with more room on the ball than 17 or 16
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Back_Stabbath posted...

"Get a job that isn't slave labour"

Uh
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I'm skeptical of nationalist movements as a rule, but the Spanish government is doing a wonderful job of justifying Catalan efforts.
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See, things like that make me see the value in PC2's career mode, which features qualifying.
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http://www.denverpost.com/2017/09/29/retirement-age-rising/

People are living longer, more expensive lives, often without much of a safety net. As a result, record numbers of Americans older than 65 are working now nearly 1 in 5. That proportion has risen steadily over the past decade, and at a far faster rate than any other age group. Today, 9 million senior citizens work, compared with 4 million in 2000.

While some work by choice rather than need, millions of others are entering their golden years with alarmingly fragile finances. Fundamental changes in the U.S. retirement system have shifted responsibility for saving from the employer to the worker, exacerbating the nation's rich-poor divide. Two recent recessions have devastated personal savings. And at a time when 10,000 baby boomers are turning 65 every day, Social Security benefits have lost about a third of their purchasing power since 2000.

Polls show that most older people are more worried about running out of money than dying.

"There is no part of the country where the majority of middle-class older workers have adequate retirement savings to maintain their standard of living in their retirement," said Teresa Ghilarducci, a labor economist who specializes in retirement security. "People are coming into retirement with a lot more anxiety and a lot less buying power."

As a result, many older workers are hitting the road as work campers also called "workampers" those who shed costly lifestyles, purchase RVs and travel the nation picking up seasonal jobs that typically offer hourly wages and few or no benefits.

Amazon's "CamperForce" program hires thousands of these silver-haired migrant workers to box online orders during the Christmas rush. (Amazon chief executive Jeff Bezos owns The Washington Post.) Walmart, whose giant parking lots are famous for welcoming RV travelers, has hired elderly people as store greeters and cashiers. Websites such as the Workamper News list jobs as varied as ushering at NASCAR tracks in Florida, picking sugar beets in Minnesota and working as security guards in the Texas oil fields.

In Maine, which calls itself "Vacationland," thousands of seniors are drawn each summer to the state's rocky coastline and picturesque small towns, both as vacationers and seasonal workers. In Bar Harbor, one of the state's most popular tourist destinations, well-to-do retirees come ashore from luxury cruise ships to dine on $30 lobsters and $13 glasses of sauvignon blanc leaving tips for other senior citizens waiting on oceanfront tables, driving Ollie's Trolley buses or taking tickets for whale-watching tours.

The Devers have noticed this economic divide. They found their campground jobs online and drove here in May, with plans to stay until the season ends in October. On a recent day off, they took a bus tour near Bar Harbor and Acadia National Park, where the tour guide pointed outthe oceanfront Rockefeller estate and Martha Stewart's 12-bedroom mansion.

"The ones who go on these ritzy, ritzy cruises to all these islands in Maine, I don't know how they got all that money. Maybe they were born into it," said Jeannie, 72. "And then you see this poor little old retired person next door, who can hardly keep going. And he's got his little trailer."
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The Devers first hit the road in their 33-foot American Star RV when Jeannie turned 65. Since then, they have worked jobs in Wyoming, Pennsylvania and now Maine. In addition to their $10-an-hour paychecks, the couple receives $22,000 a year from Social Security, an amount that has barely budged while health-care and other costs have soared.

"If we didn't work, our money would run out real quick," Richard said.

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I always get it confused with Lean On Me
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Out of the way, peasants, I'm Mr. Moneybags now
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I was under the impression they shifted to more of a championship set up, so you wouldn't need top 3 every race if you got enough points in the others?
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To be clear; the group's name is "Assata's Daughters," but they are not her actual family. And the left has long held doubts about Assata Shakur's guilt, despite her conviction.

The wikipedia page on the case is an interesting read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assata_Shakur#Turnpike_shootout_retrial
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chill02 posted...

how does the AI fare

On 40 (out of 120) they seem just fine. A bit of chaos in turn 1, but nothing you don't see in Forza.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

I swear Trump got mad at Obama for much less than this.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/544960917914796032
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chill02 posted...

the part that gets me about driving in snow or rain in video games is that I instinctively want to drive slow because that's what I would do in real life

I can manage snow just fine in Dirt (with the same car, even!) but this is ridic. I'm weaving down the straight, just trying to survive at ~35 mph
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Tbh, anyone watching SNL deserves whatever displeasure this causes them.
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One of the career races in Group A is Bathurst in the snow and rain. The weather will say 6 degrees F, there is snow on the track, and it is raining. Anyways, this mixture makes controlling the car basically impossible on gamepad. Any throttle capable of reaching appropriate speed (the speed AI cars seem comfortably moving at) just results in me spinning out. On the straights. With TCS and stability control on.
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So says the guy who will probably be Alabama's next senator.

http://tinyurl.com/ycpyhojd

WASHINGTONBy now, much of the United States knows that Roy Moore is vehemently anti-gay and anti-Muslim.

Lesser known fact: Roy Moore is vehemently anti-preschool.

In fact, he wrote in 2007, the very institution is a liberal conspiracy to indoctrinate vulnerable children . . . just as the Nazis did.

Moore won the Republicans' Alabama primary for Jeff Sessions's old Senate seat on Tuesday. His triumph, over a more moderate candidate backed by President Donald Trump, made national headlines.

If he beats Democratic lawyer Doug Jones in the December general election, the man sometimes known as the "Ten Commandments Judge" will become by far the most ideologically extreme member of the Republican caucus.

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Moore, an evangelical Christian, has never been shy about his views about the immorality of homosexuality, the wrongness of Islam or the supremacy of God's law over secular law.

He got kicked out of his job as Alabama's Chief Justice in 2003 for refusing to accept a federal court order to remove the massive Ten Commandments monument he had installed in the rotunda of the Alabama Supreme Court building.

After getting elected once more in 2013, he got kicked out again in 2016 for ordering state judges to ignore the national legalization of same-sex marriage.

Some of his extreme views have remained largely unknown.

Such as his deep antagonism toward preschool.

He outlined his theory in 2007 in one of his regular columns on WorldNetDaily, a far-right website, while criticizing a proposal for universal preschool from then-senator Hillary Clinton.

Firebrand jurist Roy Moore won the Alabama Republican primary runoff for U.S. Senate on Tuesday, defeating an appointed incumbent, Sen. Luther Strange, backed by U.S. President Donald Trump in an upset likely to rock the GOP establishment. (The Associated Press)
Citing studies, he said preschool has proven to be ineffective.

He argued it is dangerous.

"Why, then, do social liberals like Hillary Clinton push so hard for the expansion of preschool programs? Perhaps they understand the truth of Proverbs 22:6 better than most parents: 'Train up a child in the way he should go: and, when he is old, he will not depart from it.' When the mind of a young child is subjected to state control before fundamental concepts and basic beliefs are formulated, the child is much more likely to learn a liberal social and political philosophy with the state as his or her master," Moore wrote.

"Creation and God-given rights are more easily replaced with evolution and government-granted rights. Totalitarian regimes like those of Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin knew well the value of a 'youth corps.' As Hans Schemm, leader of the Nazi Teacher's League, once observed, 'Those who have the youth on their side control the future.'"

When the Star asked whether Moore still holds his anti-preschool views, his campaign spokesperson and representatives of the foundation he started, the Foundation for Moral Law, did not respond.

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Fam_Fam posted...

He's complaining about the people who are complaining that the US isn't doing enough.

You mean the victims
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914465475777695744

7D stratego at work
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How's that Louis CK bit go? "What can you even call me, as a white man? Cracker? Bringing me back to owning land and people, what a drag."
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https://apnews.com/5341651334024917ad52c0cfa96c3cfd

Spanish riot police smashed their way into polling stations to try to halt a disputed independence referendum on Sunday and fired rubber bullets at protesters outside a Barcelona polling station. Several people were injured.

The officers fired the rubber bullets while trying to clear protesters who were trying to prevent National Police cars from leaving after police confiscated ballot boxes from the voting center. The Spanish government has ordered police to stop the voting process, saying it's illegal.

Catalan officials said 38 people were treated for mostly minor injuries. An AP photographer saw several people who had been injured during the scuffles outside Barcelona's Rius i Taule school, where some voters had cast ballots before police arrived

Catalan President Carles Puigdemont condemned the crackdown.

"Police brutality will shame forever the Spanish state," he said as crowds cheered.

Enric Millo, the Spanish government's representative in the region, said police and National Guard forces acted "professionally" to enforce court orders. He said any attempt to claim the referendum as valid is doomed.

"Today's events in Catalonia can never be portrayed as a referendum or anything similar," he said.

Manuel Conedeminas, a 48-year-old IT manager who tried to block police from driving away with the ballot boxes, said agents had kicked them before using their batons and firing the projectiles, which were ball-shaped.

Elsewhere, Civil Guard officers, wearing helmets and carrying shields, used a hammer to break the glass of the front door and a lock cutter to break into the Sant Julia de Ramis sports center near the city of Girona. At least one woman was injured outside the building and wheeled away on a stretcher by paramedics.

Clashes broke out less than an hour after polls opened, and not long before Catalonia regional president Carles Puigdemont was expected to turn up to vote at the sports center. Polling station workers inside the building reacted peacefully and broke out into songs and chants challenging the officers' presence.

Puigdemont was forced to vote in Cornella de Terri, near the northern city of Girona, his spokesman Joan Maria Pique told The Associated Press.

The Spanish government and its security forces are trying to prevent voting in the independence referendum, which is backed by Catalan regional authorities. Spanish officials had said force wouldn't be used, but that voting wouldn't be allowed.

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Spanish riot police forcefully removed a few hundred would-be voters from a polling station at a school in Barcelona.

Daniel Riano was inside when the police pushed aside a large group gathered outside busted in the Estela school's front door.

The 54-year-old Riano said that "we were waiting inside to vote when the National Police used force to enter, they used a mace to break in the glass door and they took everything."

He said that "one policeman put me in a headlock to drag me out, while I was holding my wife's hand. It was incredible. They didn't give any warning."

National Police and Civil Guard officers also showed up in other polling centers where Catalan officials were expected.

Catalans braved rain and defied police orders to abandon designated voting stations.

Joaquim Bosch, a 73-year-old retiree at Princep de Viana high school, where a crowd of 20 people was growing Sunday morning, said he was uneasy about a possible police response to the crowds.

"I have come to vote to defend the rights of my country, which is Catalonia," Bosch said. "I vote because of the mistreatment of Catalonia by Spain for many years."

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Cardboard-Box posted...

A white person of unmixed ancestry.

What counts as mixed?
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I'm sure glad we don't have the systemic misteaching of a war in our country.
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Capn Circus posted...

They don't want to financially support an industry that disrespects the country.

They'd better stop buying...anything
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This idiot cat of mine thinks he's gonna be able to catch a laser dot. How stupid is this motherfucker?
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/265924424623075328
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

A bunch of people acting like toddlers talking shit about someone else that's acting like a toddler.

The former are posters on Gamefaqs dot com and the latter is the president of the United State
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NurseRedHeart posted...

Trump is already doing what he can and they still aren't satisfied.

He spent the first weekend of the response golfing and complaining about the NFL.
http://wapo.st/2xEZcJM
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Relevant
http://wapo.st/2xEZcJM
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yemmy posted...

Also all three shows someone said the Trump said the SOB thing about Kaepernick to draw attention away from cops killing black men and to instead make it about disrespecting the flag. If Trump is as stupid as they are saying, then how could they accuse him of orchestrating that?

It's not about orchestrating; it's been standard operating procedure from the beginning to make Kaepernick's protest into some sort of insult to troops and the flag.
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The government pressure in question was from Israeli diplomats
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/sep/29/manchester-university-censors-title-holocaust-survivor-speech-criticising-israel

Manchester University censored the title of a Holocaust survivor's criticism of Israel and insisted that her campus talk be recorded, after Israeli diplomats said its billing amounted to antisemitic hate speech.

Marika Sherwood, a Jewish survivor of the Budapest ghetto, was due to give a talk in March about Israel's treatment of the Palestinians, headlined: "You're doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to me."

But after a visit by Mark Regev, the Israeli ambassador, and his civil affairs attaché, university officials banned organisers from using the "unduly provocative" title and set out a range of conditions before it could go ahead.

Students had booked Sherwood to speak as part of Israeli Apartheid Week, a series of events organised by the university's student committee of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaign.

The Israeli diplomats visited Manchester on 22 February and met the university's head of student experience, Tim Westlake. Later that day in an email, Michael Freeman, the embassy's counsellor for civil society affairs, wrote to Westlake and thanked him for discussing the "difficult issues that we face", including the "offensively titled" Israeli Apartheid Week.

Mentioning the title of Sherwood's talk, Freeman said it breached the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance's definition of antisemitism. He also made accusations of antisemitism against two speakers booked for a separate event, citing tweets and their refusal to condemn antisemitic behaviour.

"Both of these events will to [sic] cause Jewish students to feel uncomfortable on campus and that they are being targeted and harassed for their identity as a people and connection to the Jewish state of Israel," Freeman told Westlake. "I would be grateful if you could look into these events and take the appropriate action."

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The next day, a university official emailed Huda Ammori, the event's organiser, with conditions. Academics chosen to chair the meetings were replaced by university appointees, publicity was limited to students and staff, and the organisers were told talks would be recorded.

Ammori was told: "For 'A Holocaust survivor's story and the Balfour declaration' the use of the title or subheading, 'You're doing to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to me' is not to be permitted, because of its unduly provocative nature."

Ammori said: "In educational institutions there shouldn't be any sort of lobbying from foreign governments. You couldn't imagine them sitting down with the Saudi embassy for an event about what's going on in Yemen."
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The Sherwood event went ahead under a revised billing with the subtitle removed. She denied that the title of her talk could be characterised as antisemitic.

"I was just speaking of my experience of what the Nazis were doing to me as a Jewish child," she said. "I had to move away from where I was living, because Jews couldn't live there. I couldn't go to school. I would have died were it not for the Christians who baptised us and shared papers with us to save us.

"I can't say I'm a Palestinian, but my experiences as a child are not dissimilar to what Palestinian children are experiencing now."

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If it were shut down
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