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SSJBGenkiDama posted...

NBIceman posted...

I can't talk myself into thinking it's a work. It has all the makings of one, but it's just being carried out in such a subtle way that it doesn't fit for a company that relentlessly beats its audience over the head with every single aspect of their programming.

They sent 2 guys off a continent....

Where is the subtlety here? You can't make it any clearer you "punished" someone severely.

Where was the WWE.com article? Where is the video of Shane talking about sending them home for misconduct?

The WWE style of work is to make absolutely sure that their entire fanbase is fully aware of everything that's happening in the story. If they were working here, they'd be producing content going out of its way to paint Zayn and Owens as crazy, selfish, unprofessional loose cannons that had to be sent away because their behavior was becoming too dangerous to the brand and the company. None of that is happening.
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I can't talk myself into thinking it's a work. It has all the makings of one, but it's just being carried out in such a subtle way that it doesn't fit for a company that relentlessly beats its audience over the head with every single aspect of their programming.
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Jubal Early
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The Rams do concern me some. But especially with the addition of Ajayi, I'd say the Eagles are the favorites. Maybe not comfortably so, but yeah.

If Peters hadn't gone down, I'd say they're by far the best, but that was a big piece to lose.
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Speaking as an Eagles fan, I still think something is going to go wrong. It always does. We never win when we're supposed to.
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Yeah, I'm with Lopen as well. If this is a work, it's a dumb one.
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Eddv posted...

I think if this current era proved anything its that being a great in ring worker amounts to a hill of beans if the rest of the package isn't moving in the right direction.

The current crop of guys is probably the best set of athletes they have ever had and it just doesn't seem to matter.

AJ MIGHT be the exception but were I to have a vote I would not be using it on Bryan or Punk.

Styles, maybe who knows, but if i had to vote for him OVER instead of in ADDITION to say Suzuki or Ultimo or LA Park, I wouldn't. Alongside them is a little easier to swallow.

For the purposes of individual wrestling companies, sure, that's probably true.

But as far as the WON Hall of Fame is concerned, you can be one of the greatest workers of all time and get in even if you went so far as to actively detract from business. It's not the WON Drawing Hall of Fame.
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Eddv posted...

There is an argument that NO ONE from the US in the time following like 2012 should be considered given that the business has done nothing but enter a death spiral it may not escape.

AJ might be the exception because of his time in Japan.

The argument is that his in-ring excellence should qualify him by itself.

Remember, you have to be a great in-ring worker, a big draw, and have some significant positive influence on the industry OR be exceptional in one or two of those three areas. In my opinion, AJ, as one of the all-time greatest workers, should be in based only on that.

Also, Dave should be ashamed of himself for not voting for CIMA and Akiyama.
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Oh, I'd have voted for him without a second thought if I had a ballot already, but yeah, this probably locks it up for folks that were on the fence. That was pretty much my point.
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Shame AJ won the title a week after the WON HoF ballets were due. That would have really helped his case.
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voltch posted...

Tna at least gave okada his big break!

Seeing Okada's name in the same sentence as TNA still makes me twitch a little bit.
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LeonhartFour posted...

the whole "wow this Yankees team is so LIKABLE" was one of the most disgusting storylines of the baseball season

You have a lot of good opinions, my man, but I might have to fight you for this.
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As much as I've enjoyed watching all of these AHL-level goalies play out of their minds, I'd really like to have Fleury back now, please.
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Congrats!

Don't know y'all very well but I enjoyed the stream on the few occasions I could pop in for a little while.
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Jakyl25 posted...

World Tag League blocks are out

A Block --
Juice Robinson & Sami Callihan
Hirooki Goto & YOSHI-HASHI
Hiroyoshi Tenzan & Satoshi Kojima
Yuji Nagata & Manabu Nakanishi
Bad Luck Fale & Chase Owens
Hangman Page & Yujiro Takahashi
Minoru Suzuki & Takashi Iizuka
EVIL & SANADA

B Block --
Togi Makabe & Henare
Michael Elgin & Jeff Cobb
David Finlay & Katsuya Kitamura
War Machine (Ray Rowe & Hanson)
Tomohiro Ishii & Toru Yano
Trent Barreta & Chuck Taylor
Guerrillas of Destiny (Tama Tonga & Tanga Roa)
Killer Elite Squad (Lance Archer & Davey Boy Smith Jr.)

Hello stacked B Block

TenCozy wins Block A almost by default

I'd be willing to bet on the LIJ team over TenCozy there, actually.

No clue who takes the whole thing, though. I'd lean GoD but there's some dark horses that have a nonzero chance.
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Zoro
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Gondar the Bounty Hunter (Dota 2)
John Wick (John Wick)
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Bishop (Marvel Comics)
Deathstroke (DC Comics)
Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
Spider (Megaman X: Command Mission)
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ExThaNemesis posted...

So um...

Lonzo Ball is not very good.

Kuzma, on the other hand...
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Logan, but I completely understand why people would pick TDK.
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Law
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Clawitzer
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Sano
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Wait, what's going on? What's the drama?
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Everybody place your bets. Does Boogie go off tonight or get ejected in the 2nd quarter? I don't see any in-between possibilities.
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That album was a victim of my expectations being too high. I like it, but it doesn't hold a candle to Helplessness Blues.

Contortionist - Clairvoyant is the AOTY 2017, at least until the new Diablo Swing Orchestra drops.
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1/10

Hated him even as a kid. Terrible show and terrible character.
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Adventure 2 is my favorite, but Generations is the best.
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Aoshi
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ExThaNemesis posted...

Every time I've played Otto Porter he has had a quiet night.

Every time I've shied away from him, he goes off.

Anger.

Porter's kind of famous among DFS players for doing this exact thing. Anthony Davis is the same way.
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SeabassDebeste posted...

josh smith to the pelicans

yessssssssssssssssss

Time for some chucking.
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Pangoro
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Kurama
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