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I think Persona 3 starts really well. The intro to the game is way better than P5's and especially P4's. It slows down for a bit afterwards but that first part really hooked me in.
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transience posted...

I wish they'd make an HD collection of these games so I could un-squish the visuals.

Two seconds of google says that there's an PS2 emulator patch that makes it HD, so hey.
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I just wouldn't response. I don't really see the point in actively antagonizing someone who didn't personally do anything to you or and currently not a part of your life - like even if they deserve it what's the point?
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I mean what she did was pretty gross and messed up, but I honestly don't see the point in harassing her over it. It's pretty mean-spirited.
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Persona 3 is really all about that atmosphere. One of the best soundtracks in any game, too.
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Reddit thread with all the detailed poll stats is going up tomorrow (I'm 95% done), but until then here's the results of the True CYL:


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9S

Joker is great for a silent protagonist but 9S is one of my favorites in a while.
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Also good lord at Loki being #7. She is literally a walking pair of tits at the moment. She's had like 5 lines of dialogue.
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Oh man. Marth is going to get LFFd out of the Top 2. Two version of him are in the Top 10.
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Wow, what happened to Tharja?
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Yankees posted...

I think it might have been interesting to know the age of the voter. The younger fans are more likely to start with Awakening/Fates and less likely to go back to the older system, I imagine.

I didn't ask for age, but I did ask what people's first FE game was. The two biggest ones were Awakening and Blazing Blade (big surprise), with Sacred Stones a distant 3rd that was still way higher than the rest of the pack. People who started with Awakening played more total FE games than I expected. The average number of games played for people who started with Awakening is 7, while the number for Blazing Blade is 8.2 Considering the huge release date difference between the two, that's pretty good! Most of the new fans are exploring the series.

The biggest 'problem' is that the playrates for Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn are absolutely abysmal for people who started with Awakening. Nintendo never released them on the VC for some reason.
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No problem! Excel makes the numbers pretty easy to figure out.

NeoElfboy posted...

but if you play any of them you play Conquest, which gets hype for having the best gameplay either in the recent games or the entire series, depending on who you ask.

Conquest crushed the Best Gameplay poll, actually. I should probably play it someday but I have heard nothing but awful things about the story.
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Kenri posted...

NeoElfboy posted...

Echoes having more players than Fates seems like the sign of a very strange sample, wow.

Well, keep in mind that not everyone played every game in Fates. I'd be interested to see how many unique players have played at least one Fates games. Bet that would put it at/near the top.

In response to this: 467 people have played at least one Fates game. That number is below Awakening but above Sacred Stones and Blazing Blade.
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NeoElfboy posted...

Echoes having more players than Fates seems like the sign of a very strange sample, wow.

Echoes has a higher playrate among the pre-3DS generation than the Fates games. People who were disappointed with Awakening gave Echoes more of a chance.

And yeah, not everyone played both Conquest and Birthright.
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Allen has said that the FAQs themselves still get a lot of traffick because people are link directly to them in google searches. Which means people don't have to navigate through the front page, which means the message boards suffer as well.
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I feel like out of games you and me might like more than the average population, nothing comes close to Bleed 1/2. Like I don't care about FF1 or VVVVVV but Bleed? Hell yeah. Never seen other people put it anywhere near a Top Anything list.
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Elizabeth
Rise
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SupremeZero posted...

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/01/gop-senate-candidate-flips-womens-rights-want-come-home-cooked-dinner-every-night/

Welp.

lmao
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Still tradin' for Yosuke
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Yeah, Book 2 has a waaay better story than Book 1.

Speaking of story, Genealogy of the Holy War dominated the Story poll. Sort of. It didn't win the overall popularity contest due to a low playrate, but 42% of the people that did play it voted it as Best Story. For comparison, the next-highest was Path of Radiance, where 32% of people who played it voted it for Best Story.
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Will trade for Yosuke

Will get Elizabeth in a bit if no one else bites
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Yosuke
Kawakami
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It
Your Name
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I enjoyed New Mystery. Apparently it messes with the plot a lot by making Kris an extreme Gary Stu to the detriment of Marth's character, but I never played the original (or Shadow Dragon) so I didn't care much.

Fun fact: out of the 583 votes cast in the favorite protagonist poll, Kris got 1 of them.
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Making images for the survey. About halfway done. Here's the first one I made:



Props to Radiant Dawn for having a lower playrate than a game that never came out in the west.
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HP is overall a better defensive stat than Def or Res - at least on a fast unit who won't get doubled as easily. It's a pretty good stat.

No unique weapon is pretty unfortunate though.
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Apparently Lyon's weapon is the only one that doesn't give an aritificial +3 stat bonus. I'm crying foul.
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Maria's stat spread is fine. People are way too harsh on new characters if they're not outright broken from the get-go.
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Myrhh is going to become a favorite of Tier 20 whales. A 2-move unit with Hector BST? Yeah...
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Lyon looks great. I hope he's decent.
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Monika
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Junpei
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Yosuke
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The more I use Lon'qu in Arena the more I think he's very undervalued. He doubles almost everyone, and with Slaying Edge I'm proccing Luna almost every turn. High HP makes him deceptively tanky and lets me use Fury 3 without having to worry much about the self-damage. I really only built him because I needed an easy-to-summon unit to keep up with merges but he's quickly become a key part of my team. He's no Ayra but who is?
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Alabama just voted to get rid of special elections. I WONDER WHY
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Xuxon posted...

well, Fates also has much worse reputation than Awakening, both the story in general and the English translation in particular.

Yeah, but to put it in perspective, 88.51% of the people who started with Awakening went on to play Birthright. 62.99% of the people who started with Blazing Blade played Birthright as well. There's a bunch of examples like this that clearly portray the pre-3DS and post-3DS generational divide that gets mentioned a lot in modern-day Fire Emblem.

Not-so-surprising tidbit: Ike steamrolled both the Favorite Protagonist and Overall Favorite Character polls.
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It's actually kind of amazing seeing these stats conform to some stereotypes. People who started with Blazing Blade are 'elitist', people who started in the 3DS games don't go back and play the older ones, and there's a big playrate drop from Awakening->Fates among the (presumably disgruntled) people who started with the GBA era and don't like the new direction of the series.
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I really liked Portait's gameplay but it totally lacks the atmosphere of the rest of the series. Was fun to play but didn't stick with me afterwards.
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All the art looks really good. Did they really need to have another Eirika though?

I'm looking at how starting with a certain game in the series affects your perception of the rest of the series. Biggest standout trend is that people who started with Blazing Blade are not only really harsh on other games, but they love Blazing Blade WAY more than people who started with other games.
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Woo Bleed

I feel like it would be hard to go back to 1 after playing 2. The parry mechanic adds so much.
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Hmm
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I'll trade for Yosuke
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I'd guess that more people started with Shadow Dragon than the original. I'd check the numbers for the emulated games but they were the gateway drug for so few people that you can't make proper stats out of them. 10 people started with Binding Blade.
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According to the statz, whoever started with the Original or Shadow Dragon went on to play the most Fire Emblem games. I guess you had to really, really like the formula if you kept going after those...!
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I really like how Alice starts off as the typical damsel-in-distress type and grows more significant as the game goes on. By the second half of the game she's getting into solo fights and saving Yuri more than he's saved her.
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LeonhartFour posted...

yeah but SH2 at least has interesting characters that aren't Yuri and Simon

Alice is great!

I prefer SH1>SH2, it just had an atmosphere about it that 2 couldn't reach. 2 felt a lot more like a typical JRPG even if it was a weird one.
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Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (PlayStation 4)
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Yosuke
Kawakami
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My survey barely crawled to an even 600 responses (there were like 5 responses in the last 5 hours), so I think that's a good place to close it. Way more responses than I expected! Going to sort through everything and post detailed summaries later, but here's a preview:

Averaged Game Ratings
Path of Radiance: 8.53
Radiant Dawn: 8.48
Sacred Stones: 8.21
Blazing Blade: 8.03
Gaiden/Echoes: 7.99
Genealogy of the Holy War: 7.94
Thracia 776: 7.70
Awakening: 7.68
Mystery of the Emblem / New Mystery of the Emblem: 7.44
Conquest: 7.25
Binding Blade: 7.06
Fates as a whole: 6.79
Original / Shadow Dragon: 6.27
Birthright: 6.15
Revelations: 5.86

Pretty clear divides here. lmao Revelations.
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2B
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