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I'd put death above sbell there personally, but obviously my reads have been ass so

And what the fuck does power wolf mean jfc

UnderUrMattress posted...

This really doesn't convince me that you tried to powerwolf the hell out of today lmao.

Why the fuck do you keep saying wolf

I'm too tired to think through this and reevaluate literally every single read i made overnight.
What the fuck, dumey

Fuck. I believe Dumey. He wasn't roleblocked, unless there are multiple in the game.

Nah

The thing to consider is, does it make sense for red to target Marth? I'll need to reread for that.

I can leave marth be for now. I will join you on death, my friend.

##unvote
##vote: death

Isn't difficult to fake**

Hmmm.

As far as fakeclaims go, something like that isn't difficult for scum (given the current public info). Death did something similar in xenoblade.

Oh yeah. Wallz is right. Ignore that.

I had you in my neutral? pile so I'm not sure if i buy that or not.

Is it a one time use?

No you were right, Chris.

red13n posted...

if I had to murder someone, probably BCT. Alternative, maybe Peaf.

But BCT is a whole lot of noncommittal posts and opinions without much backing(And reiterating the same opinion later).

He said "maybe peaf if not bct". So yeah I'm willing to get that suspicion if you'd like.

wallmasterz posted...

Ctes, what are your thoughts on the game as of now? Who would you lynch as king today? I feel like youve been participating, but most folks seem to have a neutral read on you or have no read at all, myself included

I have ctes as lean town for eod reasons but it's not a strong lean.

I originally had lopen as scum lean but he had some posts that i was really agreeing with. He misrepresented the fuck out of death towards day end but i think that's just him being wrong town at this point.

SirChris posted...

My love was not enough to keep red in this world. Rip red. That day 1 was kind of a wash huh.

Been super busy so haven't backread or anything. Will have more time tomorrow. Peaf seems inspired and I like the gusto. Peaf give me a breakdown of your world view please. I start my understanding of the game with you since you were red's other choice to die.

Iirc red mentioned me as a group he didn't feel great about but i wasn't his #2?

My world view is that Marth voted Dumey early for distancing but was easily swayed by bad non-answers from dumey, and was buddy buddy with him ever since. Marth had a lot of people in his town pile and dumey was in his group every time.

Dumey is cfwr and that's why he's frustrated with me.

Like ok, I'm not vetoing death by any means. Don't let me dissuade you from going down that path of you think it's more fruitful!

I am not your boss.

Eh. If neither of the other two gain any momentum at all in the next 24 hours then I will support lynching death. But i think marth and dumey are both far scummier than death have been.

Bloodborne

Peace___Frog posted...

We won't really know the narrative around [the end of day 1] until Sultan and death both flip. I think death is the scum in that duo, but Marth and dumey are both definitely scum and should be lynched before death.

Yes, wallz.

EDumey posted...

Do you agree with Death that there's nothing to be gained from looking who was on BCT's lynch? Was there some scum control there in who got specialed?

Why ask this? Obviously it's possible. We won't know for sure for some time. This is fake engagement.

It sounds like you know that most people on that list are town and you want to direct attention to them, away from you and Marth.

UnderUrMattress posted...

If [sultan]'s town and telling the truth and MZero is also town then wouldn't you expect tons more momentum on him for two town to be killed in one blow?

T2.152. Upon rereading d1 this really stuck out to me.

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Dumey's post (t1.069) sounds like setup meta from someone who knows how many scum there are and what kinds of extra kill possibilities they have. Additionally, he's admitting to steering the conversation away from what he feels isn't productive to something that i feel isn't going to be productive until we have a lot more info!

Dumey avoided the red thing entirely, as Marth pointed out shortly after. Interesting since that was by all measures the biggest thing up to that point. Scummates are some of the best people at recognizing when a buddy slips.

EDumey posted...

Was your case yesterday not literally that BCT had only come in to comment on you, and then disappeared and not done much else? What is disingenuous about that characterization?

Me being in that picture is unrelated. My case was that i did not see any progression of thought from page 1, topic 1 to the end of the day. Part of this is because i was a bad reader and totally missed one of his posts! You argued that I was only on him for reverse omgus.

My backing is in part due to your interactions with marth. If he flips town then I'll get off your back. Deal?

Why are you getting so defensive over my Marth vote?

I struggle to see how that's an accidental slip, when you are on a scum team that I am not on. This is what, the third time that's happened?

From my nighttime notes:

T1.254 - skillful avoidance from dumey when asked a direct question by Marth. Just says he has a lot of neutral reads outside of red without really going on the record for anyone except for sbell. Keeping those options open! This happens again towards the end of topic 2, almost in the same way. Fun times.

T2.152 from Marth - 100% coming from a place of knowing too much. Kill it.

Dumey was pretty noncommital in t2.397, other than listing people he didn't want to vote for (red, sbell, sultan, ulti). He voted sbell, chris/lea, and red over the course of the day. Was generally pretty active with his posts. So I'm surprised to see him have so little at this point in time. When marth pressed him, he gave a more concrete "neutral town lean" on Marth. They're scum buddies. Book it.

Dumey simplifying my bct case to "he's just doing omgus that's all" is disingenuous to begin with, but also comes from dumey knowing already that bct is town.

Marth jumping on ulti's inconsistency at the end of t2.pg9 is absolutely within range for scum. T3.pg2, says chris looks good for defending death and sultan from being lynched. How the fuck does that track? Marth is assured trying to get on chris' good side if chris is town, or encourage other players to sheep chris if they're both scum.

You can take jabs at me all you want. You're scum and I'm sorry that I once again wasn't on your team.

I stand by the bct train. The omgus directed at me wasn't the problem i had with him, it was that he showed no evolution of thought whatsoever across the day. I tried to give him an opportunity to talk about things and he totally brushed me off. I did admittedly miss his post in t1 where he talked about a few other things, and that is the one thing I'll apologize for.

But we won't really know the narrative around it until Sultan and death both flip. I think death is the scum in that duo, but Marth and dumey are both definitely scum and should be lynched before death.

Well then.

##Vote: marth

You need to put 1 on Dumey please

You looked too comfy and it felt like a good opportunity to get you uneasy

Oh I'll vote bct in a heartbeat. I'm just being aggressive with you. I think you're both scum with death.

EDumey posted...

i think you skimmed a bit too hard on your reading, my friend.

Quite likely!
That's still not a claim.

##unvote
##vote: dumey

People haven't avoided talking about you.

EDumey posted...

that's not even really true peaf. after i came back lopen and death both talked about why they were wary of me a bit.

2 of 13 players that aren't you or me. Forgive my eye roll

htaeD posted...

I dont disagree, but you know my stance on lynching people who arent here

He was here when i directly asked him to say anything about the game that was not about me.

htaeD posted...

Okay I am also confused you are not asking me to claim, Peaf

There hasn't been much attention on Dumey and it feels like a number of people have avoided saying much of anything about him. Unlike you, where you were in the running before Sultan.

htaeD posted...

I meant in the game where he got a vigshot from scum

It was lopen iirc

htaeD posted...

I forget, who did Sultan wind up shooting again?

...? No one yet.

Hey Dumey, if you love me you should claim before i have to leave

I feel good about wallz, red, and sbell. Conflicted on Sultan. I think he has been scummy but his resignation to being lynched totally checks out. Town Sultan with a gun in his hand is a force to be reckoned with, and lopen already made that mistake once!

So those are the four people i would like to not lynch today.

Obellisk posted...

and me.

Oh right. I forgot about that. Thanks.

Obellisk posted...

And I realize the irony in that post as I was the one who shunned those forcing us to make a decision.

oh wait red doesn't die anymore it's a power....

shit my brain is broken

But he'll probably be a prime target for scum overnight regardless, so he's basically dead unless they have the doc fear ~~~

Finally back home but have to get going again in 15ish minutes. Really cutting this trip close.

So far Sultan and red are the only claims, right?

EDumey posted...

no, but as far as i know, omgus is BCT's typical playbook, so not exactly scummy yet.

Oh i agree on that. It by itself is nai. But we are almost at the end of topic 2 and that happened on page 1 of topic 1. If he has shared no other opinions since then, i say it's because he's scum having trouble faking anything else. I've tried to give him outs on multiple occasions. And he shows up right after i pop in, just to say "hey i have nothing new to offer at all"? Come on now.

That was meant to say around not wine

Bct is wine, he replied to my check in post. Has he given a single opinion other than Peaf bad? If not, put him on the list too. If he has then please let me know.

I think Ulti is over correcting from his last scum game where he just talked way too much.

I asked about major events and no one told me about Chris replacing in smh

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Also: If there are vetos on Sultan and Death, I say we go after Peaf.

Please tell me you responded to my call out of you at some point.

UnderUrMattress posted...

Yeah I've got nothing

I don't think anyone townreads Ulti but no one seems interested in his immediate death besides me.

I'm still driving and probably won't be able to fully catch up in time. But i would happily vote for Ulti or Dumey, or encourage people to go back to death. I haven't read anything past this post though so please inform me if there was a major development in the past few pages.