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crazy
nice smile though

as long as they don't cancel them

Irony posted...

I would very much like to fuck a gas giant

you would regret it

Pitlord_Special posted...

Modders will add it in.

Just sinking into the clouds, darkness closing in, the pressure alarms going off as you hear the hull plating creaking under the strain, and then boom. Game over. Back to the last autosave

Shouldn't have to wait for modders to do it!

RAR

I mean you can infact land on gas. Or would you call that ganding?

Just you shouldn't.

Irony posted...

Collector's and Special editions are always massive rip offs. Ask Nintendo fans.

nintendo ones are actually the ones that are truly limited and hard to get and as such they actually go up in value

cuttin_in_farm posted...

This is false. Thats just pessimism. Practically nihilism.

It makes me question what the studies and people in the studies define as cynicism. And how the people are qualified as one or not.

There is some of that as well sure however:

Cynicism is an attitude characterized by a general distrust of the motives of others. A cynic may have a general lack of faith or hope in people motivated by ambition, desire, greed, gratification, materialism, goals, and opinions that a cynic perceives as vain, unobtainable, or ultimately meaningless.

The belief in those posts at their core is Cynicism. They don't trust others. They are pessimistic because they are Cynical. Nothing will change because it don't matter who is in office or whatever. Socialism won't work blah blah cause selfish people yadda yadda.

Also pessimism is a synonym fyi according to Merriam themselves.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cynic

GhostFaceLeaks posted...

This is mere confirmation bias. Happiness is just an illusion to make people fall into capitalist America, after all. Cynicism is looking at the world truthfully.

Cynicism is the whole schtick of "stop trying nothing matters it won't work we have no power and never will, stop talking about it" which people post in my threads.

Makes sense. Imagine the extreme negativity and distrust when the UAP Hearing happened.

And tc among others clapped themselves on the back as be smarter than those who said lets see what happens or this is interesting.

Glad to see a study find what we see happen in real time.

wow that is creepy

you want to secretly watch them tc?

wow

literally named a character

FATMAN

Hayame_Zero posted...

There was a French one in the 15th century who was to be executed for making fun of the king and queen. They asked for his method of execution, and he said "old age", so they just banished him.

:D

now that is a funny guy!

so did inflation ever stop?

HOW DARE HI-

wait Kojima is a visionary and must never be criticized

people must have been super bored

Imagine if they live long lives, they might write like 3 more series. Of course they wouldn't be able to like do it as a mangaka I don't think since that is supposedly super demanding.

and her BALLISTICS

Points of comparison, whatever you want to compare.

Who is sexier?
Who is better fighter?
Who is smarter?
Who is more resourceful?
Who is more relevant?
Who is your waifu?
Who has better lines.
Who has better fanart?
Who has better figures?
Who has more growth?
on and on

Who is it?

Priere posted...

But what about Namis tiddies?

We need a Nami vs. Bulma thread now!

Tyranthraxus posted...

Hard D on this.

Elder God is still alive in the hylden realm.
Janos Audron escaped.

Until these two things are addressed, the ending will never be satisfactory.

Raziel's story got a nice conclusion though I'll give you that

Guess I should have said Soul Reaver series?

Oh yea FFX too the
Tlou1 - though yea sequel kinda breaks it
MGS4 actually a good series sendoff
RE4 ended well
Legacy of Kain series

Legend of Legaia
FF7
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Metal Gear Solid 1 well if we ignore after credits tie in high
Endwalker - FF14 still churning but can be considered a valid and satisfying end of the arc

Strong 6 year old

You know
What if this is why Roger laughed.

Because Joyboy lost on purpose becauze it would be funny

asdf8562 posted...

Like Crocodiles defeat was straight up butt cheeks as plot driven battles go. He's not the only case of this too.

Yea Crocodile should be fodder but apparently he isn't and is as strong Mihawk....

Sansoldier posted...

Toon force is overrated. As good as it is, it means you can also lose to anyone since it'll be funny.

True. I concede this.
IF it is funny.

ssj3vegeta posted...

luffy can just make a fist as big as da world and destroy it, toon force is OP bruh

Vegy spitting facts

A_Good_Boy posted...

So we're applying real world physics to DBZ and not to One Piece? Sounds like you running face first to confirm the allegations that you cherry pick the feats and arguments that help you while ignoring the ones that hurt you.

I am not the one. It is the writers.
Real world physics means if you blow up the moon it would have devastating effects which Toriyama doesn't write into the pages. Everyone goes on about their day like nothing happened.

When One Piece does stuff like that Oda tries to make it have lasting repercussions.

An example is from the latest manga chapter.
BIG CURRET ONE PIECE MANGA SPOILERS
An Island went kaboom. Did the world just go about their day like nothing happened? No. Apparently it caused shockwaves across the world and rising sea levels.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

My brother in christ, the Frieza namek lava push happened in the manga.

YOU'RE the one sticking to anime with the "bulma made gpku wear a lava suit" crap.

And you're seriously going to suggest the guy vaporizing planets ISN'T stronger than luffy? I thought it was luffy's power set making him "unkillable" that won him the fight? now you're saying he's outright hitting harder?

That is because fans claim this. But I don't want to get into a stupid canon debate:

They are both canon, however, when they contradict, the anime trumps the manga. Since the anime is the original work unlike Z, the anime is the more official of the two, though they are both canon.

source is quick google
and more https://vsbattles.com/threads/why-do-we-consider-the-super-anime-to-be-the-main-canon.120593/

unless that has changed since the anime came out?

Just weird to go to the manga but I will admit I didn't read it and watched the show cause even here no one considered the manga the canon one at the time. Has that changed?
Been waiting for them to continue the anime tbh.

A_Good_Boy posted...

No problem there, since Goku is stronger than Luffy lol

incorrect

A_Good_Boy posted...

Goku's been strong enough to blow up the moon many times over since he was a child. Can anyone in OP blow up the moon?

Yes but that kinda feat is pointless anyways unless we apply real world physics to the moon but Toriyama doesn't.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/7/AAOdzqAAEy17.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/2/8/AAOdzqAAEy18.jpg

Not the win you think it is. Hakai is bound by rules like being stronger than the other guy, at least supposedly it is supposed to work with some sort of logic hahha.

Also having to go to the manga cause that don't happen in the show...smh. You kept mentioning the shows for the lava argument but that is separate canon. So why would you go to the manga now?

Did perhaps you find that show Goku lost to Luffy and you had to scramble? Yep. :D

:D

ZaruenKosai posted...

op cant accept goku would kick luffys ass
based on how they reply to every user disagreeing with them

no I can

then Luffy would get right back up and kick Goku's butt

literally is part of the powerset I mentioned

Doe posted...

Is "Maggeta" lava ki-infused

fans will try to claim it otherwise they have to face reality

A_Good_Boy posted...

Don't even bother putting in effort with TC. He cherry picks the canon elements that help his argument and he refuses to acknowledge the existence of canon elements that complete tear his argument apart. WoG is a very obsessive guy and he's currently seething about DBZ just because it turns out Raditz is a lot stronger than he realized.

No need to get salty when it proven how inconsistent the DB writing is and that Goku loses.

Doe posted...

Not totally following this lava argument but don't they shrug off magma in the new Broly movie or am I misremembering

Not shrugging it off at all. My whole point was the paradox.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

You're the one making the asinine claim that that definitively means Luffy wins by default.

That wasn't my argument. I explained why Luffy won in the op.

You were suggesting that Goku must be a gag character since the writing in DB is full of plot holes and inconsistencies like the lava thing.
I explained to you why that is false because Goku is regarded as in the series to work in a logical way.
For instance breaking through time in the fight with Hit wasn't seen as a gag but the result of hardwork and training and abiding by some sort of framework of logic that is supposed to be there.

Foppe posted...

Aint Dragon Ball Super Episode 68 A: Filler
and
B: Bulma asking Goku to wear the suit because A: She doesnt know better
and
B: Wearing the suit makes it easier to carry the material?

nope that is just cope when facing the paradox

DarkBuster22904 posted...

As opposed to the totally-not-a-gag Magetta fight where he loses because vegeta trash talks him?

I know you might be upset as a fan that Toriyama would canonically make lava hurt a saiyan at that level but it is what it is. Trying to call things like a serious fight in the tournament of power a gag is a sad avenue to have to go for cope.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

Like the Frieza fight was?

yes there is a paradox. again read my post.
technically we are both right and we are both wrong

Toriyama wrote it some in one fight lava appears to not hurt them and in another it threatens their lives.
What this means is trying to bind this all in logical that can be easily explained and compared just can't work. But every DB fan does and every argument trying to make Goku seem like he wins uses that.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

And luffy is regularly beaten to within an inch of his life by Nami.

So... Nami beats goku in a fight?

Oh you bring up a gag part? Well same happens to Goku.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/5/AAefUOAAEy2D.png

link: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9a/f7/2c/9af72c9bbf1004936619ae0fe132a362.gif

Bulma BITCH slaps the ever living life out of Goku

The lava thing is not a side gag. It is from an actual serious fight that is suppose to be a good moment where a worthy opponent is beaten.

DarkBuster22904 posted...

You mean like the canon event where goku survives getting knocked into lava on Namek?

Doesn't matter I have proven he can be hurt by it. Canonically he is hurt by lava.

I am sure it upsetting but we have no one to blame but Toriyama himself for this. And that was my point.

Prismsblade posted...

I'm wondering if he's finally ready to appear on death battle yet. Itd be awesome but His most likely opponent would be probably be plastic men and....lol.

Luffy vs. Mickey Mouse

DarkBuster22904 posted...

you don't get to whine when others cherrypick the biggest moments of upscaling.

actually I do

If someone claims Goku can survive lava I can legit canonically say that is false and they cannot deny it without erasing from their mind actual events from the series

DarkBuster22904 posted...

It's almost like DB feats are all over the f***ing place, with no rhyme or reason, and they're literally just as strong as they need to be to make a scene work. Kinda like... cartoon logic.

glad someone admits it

but the difference is that while DB fails to provide a logical framework to measure their feats it is believed that is does and people try to argue with it logically as if that framework made sense

meanwhile

one piece actually does this really well in providing a logical framework to measure feats but outright declares none of it matters anyways cause Luffy's powers are just outright able to break it all in a cartoon way

so while you could argue Goku works by cartoon rules, that is only the failing of the writer and not narratively canon, he is supposed to be bound by some set of rules it is just those rules make no real sense when we scrutinize them

luffy on the other hand is deliberately declared as such and beyond the limits and bounds of the rules of his reality

further I would add this declaration of Luffy is not just canon statements by the characters and feats but visibly declared from a shift in the art style

just in case people forgot:

After drinking a cup of lava, he goes in for a series of punches once the match starts, but Vegeta dodges them all without much effort and he tries kicking him on the head, but the result leaves his head buried within his body and creates an irritating shock wave. Magetta pulls it back out after violently striking himself and he is completely fine. Even after increasing his power, Magetta still couldn't land a punch on Vegeta due to his speed. Magetta then goes in for a tornado attack, when Vegeta dodges upward at the last minute. He is now in the best position against Magetta because he can't do any mid-air combat. Vegeta then fires multiple ki blasts at Magetta, who endures it and counters them with his Lava Spit, which is considered a qualification which gets stronger by the minute. Vegeta manages to avoid the full damage at the last second but is now at the risk of touching the barrier and getting disqualified. Fortunately for Vegeta, he transforms into his Super Saiyan form to brush off the damage from the magma attack, but Magetta starts to power up even further and increase the temperature of the barrier-encased arena, causing Vegeta to pant and sweat.

Magetta continues spitting lava again at Vegeta. He then lets out a hot water vapor attack which pushed Vegeta to almost fly out of the barrier. While Vegeta prepares for a Galick Gun attack, Magetta raises the temperature which causes the whole arena to become extremely hot. Magetta easily blocks Vegeta's Galick Gun with his Lava Spit which becomes solidified. He spits another lava on Vegeta and uses the lava to ambush Vegeta. He successfully hits Vegeta with a club created by the cooling the magma, making him fall out of the ring. However, Vegeta is lucky enough to land on one of the broken rocks from the stage platform. Magetta gets pushed back by Vegeta's ki after releasing it to break the barrier. Vegeta uses his Final Flash on Magetta, while Magetta prepares for another Lava Spit. However, Vegeta's Final Flash easily overcomes Magetta's lava and pushes him to the edge of the arena platform. As a result of Vegeta's Final Flash, Magetta becomes dizzy and is left open to Vegeta's attack. Despite trying to block it, Vegeta shouts out an insult which makes Magetta lose his will to fight, thus, Magetta falls out of bounds and Vegeta is declared the winner of the match. He is later seen crying because of Vegeta's insult while Botamo tries to comfort him. In the manga, Magetta is instead defeated when Vegeta destroys most of the ring and then fires a ki blast at Magetta to try and knock him out - insulting him while doing so - causing Magetta to easily fall out of the ring from one blast to the surprise of Vegeta.

But surely Magetta wasn't using normal lava right?
Or or maybe he spiked it with Ki or somethign right right?

Cue Goku having to wear a suit in Dragon Ball Super Episode 68 due to lava

SkittyOnWailord posted...

But can he beat Popeye?

Not the topic of this thread.

PraetorXyn posted...

Dude, I love One Piece, but those characters are continental threats at best. Goku was multiplanetary after the Frieza saga. They just dont compare.

This is the problem with trying to scale Dragon Ball characters. People go: "oh this guy can maybe blow up X, so he is an X threat!" then ignore everything else

Magetta threatened Vegeta with lava. Dude was literally sweating. There is nothing else to say about it. Akainu would do worse.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Do we have any evidence that the loony tunes stuff is a tangible power?

Yes at the end of the last episode he flies up into the sky and grabs lighting and it becomes a weapon. Sure you could say he turned it into rubber but that means turning things into rubber basically lets him do whatever he wants.
Ex: turn time into rubber blah blah blah

Maybe that is how he came back to life? He turned his life into rubber and bounced back

ahahahhahahahahaha

VFalcone posted...

And SSJ Goku survived being hit into Namek's core or whatever just fine when fighting Frieza

just goes to show people trying to take one thing that happens in the manga and say this means Goku wins are standing on shaky logic.

Later in the series Lava was a threat.
But keep in mind Akainu isn't just lava but Haki and whatever else. He could punch a whole in these guys easy as pie.