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EDumey posted...

Theater in the sense that they're planning interactions on the scum board to play out in topic? No I don't get that sense.

Just interacting with each other here as two scum? Yeah it happens. Easy to answer questions from someone you know isn't actively pursuing you. Wallz happy to respond to Ashethan and use it as a chance to talk more about his distrust of Corrik.

But I might have a different idea of what "scum theater" is than you.

Theater is probably a strong word but that's what in talking about more or less yes

Dumey you think Wallz and Ashe doing some scum theater here? The interactions could be used to make wallz look better when Ashe Flips scum. Do you think scum scum here?

Right that's what I'm saying I think Ashe probably claimed scum and we didn't even realize that until now. Or atleast I didn't

Hmmm what if scum is the reverse and Ashe ousted himself in his claim. Then realized of fuck towns the opposite of scum and changed it.

I think Ashe might just be caught and did a pretty damn good job trying to talk himself outta it

Wait and you were a killer first then a survivor 2nd?

Ashethan posted...

Alright, I'll claim.

Yesterday I was Michael Myers, Solo Queue Quiet Predator. Quiet is the same as Lea's/BCT. Basically a Ninja. But Predator has no action attached to it.

Today I'm Mikaela Reid Solo Queue Mystic Inquisitive. Mystic is basically the same as Quiet, and I'd rather not say what Inquisitive does yet.

Hmm okay
Weird so how'd you move exactly?

Ashe when did you claim Ninja Exactly I want to look for it.

wallmasterz posted...

All I said was I have never seen you roll scum before this game. This game is tbd. Its not an accusation

Come to think of it I think since his return to mafia I can say he has only been like scum 2 times?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Shouldn't town fish for info to try to find each other? I don't know what my actions did to set off a ping. The only mistake I acknowledge was reading Dumey as scum, but at least I leveraged RBing him into confirming him town.

What you're saying here is contradicting what you told me before. Try to find townies to partner with. I am pretty convinced Corrik is town at this point in time.

I do think Chang was killed for being onto scum. Perhaps Brohan, and maybe Death too. Is Brohan still even here...?

Are you threatening me? I can assure you I rolled town yet again.

Good answer. I think I may have been thrown off by the phrasing a bit.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Please explain why pointing this out to scum benefits town in any shape or form. I don't like this post at all.

You seem to be trying to get more information than what Corrik offered I get the questions and the concept of doing so but it did set off a small ping

BCT you seem to be fishing..

Leafeon13N posted...

Scum should be 5 or am i crazy

Then it be Mylo would be today?

11- 1
10
Nk
9 would be 5 v 4

EDumey posted...

I only just got this info last night. My role investigates all past activities, which is why I have the N1 and D2 info.

Ohhh

justconfused on how Dumey would have seen Ashe then and why wait until today if that happened night 1 I am slightly weary if Dumey here but doesn't make sense for scum to do this.

Idk I'm a bit lost.

Leafeon13N posted...

Am i miscounting or is the game just over is he isn't?

I'm pretty sure hes scum but also hes claimed ninja and there is confirmed poison seen on the target.

It certainly makes me a bit nervous because it doesn't really add up at a glance(scum claiming ninja feels like they would actually be ninja?).

But I also still dont really buy Ashes claim. He is still claiming no switch when host very clearly said everyone switched.

No I think I'm just bad at math lol

1. Ashethan
2. Corrik7 / Corrik
3. EDumey / Dumey
4. htaeD / Death
5. IfGodCouldDie / IGCD
6. BlueCrystalTear / BCT (replaces Lea)
7. Obellisk / Sbell
8. red13n / Leafeon13n
9. TheSultanofSlam / Sultan
10. UltimateBrohan / Brohan
11. wallmasterz / Wallz

If ashe is town and Dumey is town I think
11-1 is 10
Night kill if unblocked 9
We kill the other
8
Plus a might kill
7
So it be 3 v 4 if we are correct to assume 4 scum they have the majority.

Right

So it makes me think dumey is town even more wouldn't someone on a scum team know Ashe claimed ninja day 1 and be like dude that's a terrible fake claim in that case?

##Vote:Ashe.

Scum if he isn't we kill dumey and have 0 mislynches left. I mean would Scum go 1 for 1 on this I highly doubt it. They have pretty much 0 reason to

My enthusiasm for this game is dead atm...

htaeD posted...

Ehhh, I cant be sure if the host would rule a ninja power like that.
Someone else also had the 'unseen by actions' trait, right? Maybe they can shed more light on that?

I just want to be careful here since I have seen us get burned by assuming too much before.
(well okay the last time I wasnt on towns side, but you know what I mean)

At the very least I dont think you are lying since this sounds like an extremely hard role to fake.
Plus its not like Ashe earned much goodwill.

Think it was BCT/Lea but I think they basically said it was vanilla??

Why wouldn't you being this up yesterday?? If you caught scum you out scum..

Bro wtf is this game get a train thst says someone is scum for them to be town.. and a same name trait ad another trait that doesn't soothe same thing.

Jc or Ashe should be the only lynch options today this is dumb

Yeah wtf? Why we lynching corrik here?

IGCD was so certain I was scum though. This is kinda odd tbh

BCT is town.

Corrik7 posted...

If he can revive if his Box ruler dies, why would he tell us this. He would want us to believe he is dead for good already.

Nothing here says he ever had an option to even spare. This could be made up as well. He is just trapped.

Do respect the fight though if he is indeed scum or 3p

Corrik7 posted...

It doesn't say FD died. There is a ? Not a K. What if he is still in the box and remains there as long as JC lives and he continues to lie to us regarding it. What if FD actually can come back to us still?

Thought FD somewhere during the day said he killed FD which I guess he wouldn't have to say if he was scum just leave the ??? Right?

EDumey posted...

Are you still voting for Brohan?

Sultan if I have to leave an hour before deadline, and I have to leave my vote on either Ashethan or JC, who do you think I should leave my vote on?

I'd say both are good options. JC if nothing else also provides some information.

Soo any other questions I think im stalled for today

htaeD posted...

I cant quite understand that sentence

Working though everything in my head and my trait.

I wanted to claim my information at an appropriate time. Wasn't around much yesterday due to my nephews birthday Party so I was only partly here.

htaeD posted...

what took til then for you to just think JC was scum tho?

Beacuse I thought though everything it makes no sense to be a town rule

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

If people are around I'll claim I think it could potentially make some things make more sense

195 and 199.

##Vote:JC

hopefully this isn't a game trap and if it is oops

htaeD posted...

And I will ask you Sultan, you stated you were upset at the pace of the game
So why not reveal your info about Pinhead sooner?

I also ended up getting busy lol

Leafeon13N posted...

JC almost certainly has to die but IGCD is throwing around that you also have to die.

Which is oddly not drawing as much attention as I'd expect.

Well IGCD hasn't provided a reason I must die.

JC who would you lynch today

That was in the same post voting Wallz

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Jc I think his ability as pinhead was scum or possibly an indy role. So killing JC could be a good route to.

Also @thead

htaeD posted...

Sultan if you knew what you knew, why come out on this day swinging a vote towards Wallz instead?

Wanted to give JC a chance to exsplain himself more or less

Corrik7 posted...

Also, Sultan you liked his annoyance. I disagree. It looks like a fabrication of woe is me that strayed as close to the lines as putting things outside the game on the line in the game. It's something we would have berated other players strongly for doing. The fact he was well aware and made sure he kept it directly on the strayed line makes me feel it was done with intent and not genuine.

I mean yeah I just feel a bit confused. It seems like it's a scum thing but I'm just confused

changmas posted...

sultan can you post your full day 1 set of traits / a short explanation of what each does

im trying to understand if theres a reason why you specifically would get that info, if your other traits interact with that info in some way

Role fishing a bit.

Have 2 the

Intuitive- basically just let me know of the Pinhead box more or less.

Feline Grace- I will not fully claim as it is still able to be used

Chaeix posted...

Which night?

Initial role

Chaeix posted...

Interesting.

A few questions - when did you scan me? Did you actually scan me or does your intuitive trait just give PMs?

Also why does Pinhead cheats mean you jumped to the conclusion that I had to use it as either a mandatory thing or wincon?

It was passive I was just told.

And it says Pinehead doesn't follow the rules.

htaeD posted...

Its happened, but I am not even sure we have 1 3rd party.

if this is true you really should have said this yesterday tho, Sultan.
I'd be more inclined to believe you if you werent seen as a suspect by a lot of people already, which could make this a desperate trade off.

I was told to not interfere I didn't know if that be considered interfering

Chaeix posted...

1) yeah I guess I probably wasnt lynched as town doomed, still traumatizing though
2) I said this last day but part of the reason I used it was because the next time I could use it was in advance of D4 (and Id have to be alive going into D4). Do I ever make it to D4? Rarely.

Sultan can you clarify exactly what you mean by your suggestion that Pinhead had to be used?

Because yes, the intuitive trait had to manifest N1 to allow me to become Elliott/Pinhead, and yes, youre correct that Pinhead takes over the entire day, but also taking over the entire day is not because of my intuitive trait.

My intuitive trait is what allowed me to access the Chain Hunt early. It was the Game Master trait of Elliotts that actually *is* the chain hunt (Elliott is Game Master Sadist Metalhead). Sadist was my ability to spare or kill after the chain hunt (not sure I said that explicitly with my claim).

So I need more info from you Sultan.

Also Sultan what makes your role different from Bens scans?

Mine just told me directly that Pinehead cheats and to not interact with it.

It sounds like the ability was inevitable and would happened during the game based on how it was worded.

As soon as you claimed I was like oh fuck. Okay don't mess with the box. Though I should have realized earlier when it said nothing could be done until the box was resolved. Definitely didn't put 2 and 2 together

EDumey posted...

I'm sure it's happened before, but not in recent history. But with Ben's flip telling us about the Kill Your Friends team, I would really doubt multiple 3rd parties without some kind of hard evidence.

Yeah the wording is what caused me a bit of question.

Question. Have we had a game with more than 1 3rd party?

EDumey posted...

Can you be a little more clear? I realize you have to paraphrase and can't direct quote, but what part of your trait implies that it wasn't a choice?

I sound alike it has to be used by JC at some point. I think the timing may have been optional but as a win condition I think it has to be used.

So he is scum or 3rd party. The chances of being town seem super low unless it's a role trap and that just fucking sucks for JC.

wallmasterz posted...

jc if youre actually town, Id be very suspicious of sultan in your shoes.

Why come forward with this now sultan? Why not sooner? This timing reads to me like if youre scum and jc is town, you thought jc was an easy mislynch and now youre worried jc might talk his way out of it.

I was specifically told in this trait not to interfere.

This is why I was waiting for more clarification from JC.

I did bread Crumb it yesterday saying the out might have just been killing JC. But I also said idk if that do it.
I also breadcrumb this yesterday saying I would not open the box

Unless it hasn't yet been resolved