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TopicIs it possible to microwave something to the point it's not heatable anymor
LtZim
01/08/23 2:27:52 PM
#22
yes how do you think microwave safe dishes get made
TopicWhat are your thoughts on Jewish cuisine?
LtZim
01/08/23 2:11:08 PM
#55
matzo is disgusting

everything else is so boring and bland and tastes lousy
Topicis PC gaming dead?
LtZim
01/08/23 2:08:06 PM
#13
my pc was $3500 and I was holding back

sounds like you got wallet problems son
Topicis PC gaming dead?
LtZim
01/08/23 2:07:32 PM
#12
get more money
TopicWould you spend $369.99...
LtZim
01/06/23 3:27:53 PM
#16
Great way to destroy you phone battery
TopicWTF happened to my oven door?It completely shattered while I was in the bathroom
LtZim
01/06/23 3:26:48 PM
#20
-Unowninator- posted...
Jesus Christ. I only had it for 2 months too.
It was prob already busted before you got it but the micro cracks finally gave out
Topic3 blond female prison guards in their 20s arrested for fucking inmates.
LtZim
01/06/23 3:23:49 PM
#72
1337toothbrush posted...
Was that wrong? Should they not have done that?
Can't use a position of power to coerce someone into sex
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/06/23 3:21:41 PM
#94
CE: "i love Nvidia's new DLSS features it helps me get better fps in my games"
also CE: "AI is bad it's the worst!"
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/06/23 3:20:10 PM
#93
If you are soooooo concerned about AI "stealing" art why don't you go train some AI models on your own art instead?

Oh yeah because you can't because you don't even know how to install or run the software let alone make art in the first place
TopicAvatar 2 has been out for almost 3 weeks now and I haven't seen a single spoiler
LtZim
01/06/23 1:23:34 AM
#31
no but theres a lot of throwbacks to Terminator 2, The Abyss, and Titanic and Aliens
TopicCar companies: why aren't people buying our $100,000 dollar EV cars?!?
LtZim
01/06/23 1:20:34 AM
#5
hybrids are goat
TopicDo you think you could make it through the Crucible of USMC boot camp?
LtZim
01/06/23 1:19:07 AM
#11
its just glorified hazing, and for what? so you can be a dumb grunt and shoot people in a third world country? yea thats real cool and edgy
TopicDo you think you could make it through the Crucible of USMC boot camp?
LtZim
01/06/23 1:17:58 AM
#10
being a marine is dumb af and nothing they do is impressive
TopicAvatar 2 has been out for almost 3 weeks now and I haven't seen a single spoiler
LtZim
01/06/23 1:16:13 AM
#29
blue people fight and someone dies and someone cries
Topicis PC gaming dead?
LtZim
01/06/23 1:14:13 AM
#6
just buy a last-gen gpu for $300 on ebay and play at 1440p
TopicDid Lisa Su just kill GPUs?
LtZim
01/06/23 1:13:18 AM
#14
Tyranthraxus posted...
Apple is probably gonna be the first end consumer PC to make the jump to RISC because of legal bullshit surrounding ARM.
this is p interesting but idk if I get that impression from here; https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/arm-vs-risc-v/
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:59:51 AM
#79
LightningAce11 posted...
Most AI art people out themselves as using AI. Plus they fail at any test given to them, or cant seem to answer interview questions well.
what is the purpose of tests and interview questions? using AI is not "cheating"
TopicDid Lisa Su just kill GPUs?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:57:52 AM
#12
this is not a new idea either, Apple has been pushing forward with single SoC designs for years now and has hit it out of the park with their M1/M2 architectures

same idea there, bundle CPU + GPU + RAM + supporting chips into a single package, and the results are spectacular

the aspect that TC is missing is that this design is superior to the antiquated status-quo of having discrete components

its not a question of "what will even be the point of GPUs?" but instead its "why are we still bothering with GPUs today?" and "how soon can we ditch GPUs?"
TopicDid Lisa Su just kill GPUs?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:53:07 AM
#11
yea def when the software is there it will be a lot more feasible
buts its the same situation with AMD GPU though; who is actually using these in prod enterprise environments? Cause afaik their software support for AMD GPU is god awful
they mention stuff in that article like the Frontier HPC systems, these are like Top 500 list groups that have the resources to dedicated a team of devs just to build software up to utilize cutting edge hardware
but most other real-world on-prem users arent gonna be like that, they cant and wont recruit devs for the sole purpose of porting their old STEM software to a new CPU/GPU arch, they will instead buy the hardware that matches the software they already use, and patiently wait for the software dev's (who are usually third-party FOSS devs and maintainers) to do the porting on their own for free
TopicDid Lisa Su just kill GPUs?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:47:02 AM
#8
Kloe_Rinz posted...
enterprise technology rarely becomes consumerized
I think the most relevant features of Epyc have come down to consumer Ryzen afaict
TopicDid Lisa Su just kill GPUs?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:44:49 AM
#6
Alucard188 posted...
They don't even have consumer grade APUs available for desktops, yet they are in consoles. Those processors are data center, and will be way too expensive to produce on a mass scale. We're talking $15,000 or so.


uh what are you talkin about bro?? Do you realize how many hundreds of thousands of CPUs and GPUs go into cloud and HPC? Compute nodes typically run $25k-$50k each and an HPC will have dozens up to hundreds of them.

no one gives a crap about consoles

Honestly the MI300 here is kinda a weird product it seems

on one hand, AMD is in the unique position that they can bundle a true x86_64 CPU with a GPU to great result; Nvidia and Intel being separate companies likely blocks that one, its gonna be a long time until ARM is mainstream for dev for server and HPC applications.

but on the other hand, being bound to only 24 CPU cores and 128GB RAM is like nothing. The server I am logged into right now has 72 cores and 1TB memory, and we have dozens more just like it alongside a hundred more 40 core / 512GB nodes. And this is the old server system. Throwing in a bunch of 24c/128GB units would be a downgrade in a lot of ways. And it sounds like you cannot add more memory to these things? Yea thats gonna be a tough sell, on top of it not supporting CUDA I really am not sure what kinda usages these would be meant for.

TopicDid Lisa Su just kill GPUs?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:33:03 AM
#3
this is the same company that let their ML toolkits and support languish for ten years while Nvidia dominated with CUDA and did not even try to put up a fight so idk how any of this would ever be significant
TopicDid Lisa Su just kill GPUs?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:31:58 AM
#2
uh i dont think so because literally nobody uses AMD GPU's in HPC
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:30:40 AM
#76
if James Cameron types some words like "exotic alien foliage and flowers" into midjourney and then gets his modeling tech to create that design for the forests of Pandora does that mean he is not making art? hmmm...
TopicBlack Panther Wakanda Forever>Avatar the Way of the Water
LtZim
01/06/23 12:28:28 AM
#2
weak troll topic better luck next time
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:24:06 AM
#74
cant wait to see all the luddites cry when they find out just how much generative AI tech goes into creating the masterpiece art films they praise in theaters
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/06/23 12:21:31 AM
#73
Zero_Destroyer posted...
Fundamentally those backing AI art reek of the same techbro stench that gave us NFTs. AI art might have actual commercial viability in some fashion for marketing, but it lacks authenticity, community, intent, messaging - anything, it's just a weapon that will be used by people who are not artists in order to disempower actual artists.

It will likely fail since art impacting culture does so because of the intent behind it or the reaction to that intent. People will never be impressed by it because there is nothing to be impressed by; no craft, no identifiers, no technique, nothing, just a bunch of numbers in a tin can stealing other works and meshing them together into a void of meaning.

Even something like self-driving cars, which will have impacts on industries, ultimately do serve a good purpose to society. Most tech developments like this do. But to apply it to art is to misunderstand the actual meaning of art to a culture. The same culture that detatches itself from the almost factory made lack of aesthetic as the MCU will not then attach itself to AI art; the latter is simply the final result of making art products. It has no shelf life, spoils, and is left to history's dustbin beyond what it showed about the culture it was made in.

this is complete BS and people that say and believe this idiocy will be proven wrong very quickly

Adobe is already preparing to build AI generative features into its creative suite

this is the future and it is art wether you like it or not, very soon it will be 100% indistinguishable from non-AI art

to say there is "no intent" is so ridiculously obtuse, when a human is still in the driver's seat creating prompts that produce the images. "Prompt craft" is not easy either. You think you can just throw word salad into the machine and get a masterpiece back, you're in for a rude awakening when you finally get off your high horse and give it a shot for some time.

its literally 100% the same exact argument people had in the late 1800's and early 1900's trying to claim that photography is not art because its made by a machine. Spoilers: your professional digital cameras are already using AI and will be using more and more of it going forward.
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 11:35:14 PM
#68
Trumble posted...
For the same reasons boomers are upset at things that didn't exist when they were young. Some people just can't handle the fact that the world changes over time and new things exist.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/5/AAB7tLAAEECb.jpg
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 11:25:45 PM
#65
if you actually care about understand the topic and how AI art works, instead of just braying and bleating naysays into the void, check out this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVcsDDABEkM&t=357s
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 11:17:27 PM
#64
do you really think the human brain is so magical and unique that it cannot be represented digitally for emergent generation?

cause if you do I got some bad news for you
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 11:16:04 PM
#63
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


yes you can

https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ai%20create%20music%20from%20image
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 11:14:33 PM
#60
I dont believe you. Even if you did paint it yourself, its so obviously an AI-prompted design that it doesnt matter. If you really are a serious artist, then you need to find a different style, because A) no one is going to believe when you say its not AI, and B) the AI can do better in seconds what might take you hours.
Sorry, its the way of the world.

TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 11:13:19 PM
#59
LightningAce11 posted...
Ive seen recruiters/art leads on LinkedIn saying they receive applications and portfolios full of AI art. Those applicants get blacklisted.

how do they know its AI art?

https://nichegamer.com/art-subreddit-bans-artist-style-ai/
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 11:10:44 PM
#56
Master_Kazuya posted...
You can use image software to make art, and some of the tools are automated. It'll cut images out based on what it thinks is the border, add its own level of shadows/blur, and so on etc. Does that mean if it's edited in that way, it's no longer art since the process was not fully made start to finish by a human with complete manual control?
yes this is a thing already as well
https://petapixel.com/2016/07/04/nat-geo-says-committed-honest-photos-era-photoshop/
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 11:06:56 PM
#54
That is not new. Its been a thing since the dawn of the industrial revolution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

And its not like we havent had literally this exact same debate over a hundred years ago

https://siarchives.si.edu/blog/photography-murdered-painting-right


Its inevitable. Whenever someone tries to recount or evoke photographys impact on visual culture when Daguerreotypes were introduced in 1839, a statement attributed to the French history painter, Paul Delaroche (1797-1859), gets dusted off for re-use. From today, Delaroche supposedly intonedand whether he spoke excitedly or portentously, well never knowPainting is dead! In either case, his announcement of a game-change, whenever its trotted and printed out, ends with an exclamation mark, to underscore photographys meteoric impact on conventional representational imaging.
Of course, painting didnt die, even if the medium seemed to have taken a direct hit. In France, for example, as photographic images spread over the years, so did Impressionism, Post-Impressionism, Cubism, and Surrealism. Photography, one might argue, didnt murder painting; it shook things up by creating new options and opportunities.
Flash forward to California in the mid 1960s, when John Baldessarinow recognized as one of the most original artists and influential educations of his generationlooked back at paintings he had done in the previous decade and couldnt reconcile them with the reality of the his everyday world and life. He began to incorporate photographic images into his art works and, pretty soon, Baldessari says in the piece hes done for click! photography changes everything, I was using photography almost exclusively in my work. But it wasnt photography that I was interested in, but what art might be, and how photography could give me a quick way to implement my ideas.
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:38:26 PM
#52
also re: 3D AI worlds, dont forget about photogrammetry and some of the newer stuff like Nvidia NeRF

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/getting-started-with-nvidia-instant-nerfs/

https://github.com/nerfstudio-project/nerfstudio

also dont forget about stuff like Nvidia's flagship DLSS features, and Topaz AI

https://www.topazlabs.com/

all these things are built on AI tech, and its easy to predict that they will all start to converge more and more in the upcoming years. Its already standard practice iirc to use something like Stable Diffusion to generate your base images at a lower res then use more AI to upscale and smooth it out, etc
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:32:14 PM
#51
Master_Kazuya posted...
1. Art is art, doesn't matter who/how/when it's made, on purpose or by accident, etc. Stop being so prideful about how.
2. It's cool that AI can even do this at all
3. Imagine a combination of AI art with human judgement, you could see some cool art
4. If it's further and further perfected, imagine the possibilities. You could have a whole 3D AI world. Would be cool for movies and video games.
5. Humans made AI so it's still our art in some way.
6. There are always gonna be boomers that think technology is gonna ruin everything or that it's not how it used to be in the golden days. That's like a math guy getting mad that a calculator exists. It's still cool for a human to do art too cause art is art. You can still make art if you want, don't let the existence of AI stop you.
7. If you're worried AI is gonna take over the world or whatever, it doesn't seem like art should be the biggest of those worries.


all these points are pretty much correct.

The thing that we, as humans living and working in TYOL2023 need to actually worry about, is #7

Its clear that "art" is gonna be hit hard by AI, buts its not clear how many other fields will be as well

https://www.cnet.com/tech/computing/why-everyones-obsessed-with-chatgpt-a-mind-blowing-ai-chatbot/

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/new-york-city-public-schools-ban-chatgpt-devices-networks-rcna64446

https://winbuzzer.com/2022/11/04/microsofts-controversial-github-copilot-now-facing-a-lawsuit-xcxwbn/

https://www.engraved.blog/building-a-virtual-machine-inside/

Fields like journalism and writing could easily be demolished with the help of AI bots that write articles effortlessly. As a developer, I am already re-thinking my own career path in the face of increasing sophistication of these AI resources.

The best we can do right now, I think, is to pay attention and strive to be flexible in our skillsets in order to adapt to the paradigms that are going to be falling upon us quickly now. Keep an eye on fields that will always require human operators, such as medical and types of STEM fields, because the monotonous generic computer programming is likely to see a great cooling-off in the size of the required labor force.
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:19:58 PM
#48
ofc its prob a good idea to link the official repo as well since they also have decent examples, the AUTOMATIC111 build is a third-party repo that makes the official one user-friendly to run

https://github.com/CompVis/stable-diffusion
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:18:15 PM
#47
people ITT do not even know about the most basic features of mainstream SD software;

https://github.com/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui/wiki/Features

example; img2img where you can input your own photo and ask the AI to enhance and manipulate it and use it as source material for new images
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:15:01 PM
#46
also all the people whining about "stolen art" really do show how ignorant they are and how myopic they are on the topic

you can train an AI model on *anything*, it does not have to be copyrighted material

if there is copyrighted material included in the AI model then that is the fault of the model creators, not the AI itself
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:13:17 PM
#44
nah I enjoy the topic I built a PC just for stable diffusion and other AI tech in fact I am running it right now

one of my faves is coming up with creature designs in the style of H.R. Geiger

I am not that great at it myself yet it takes a lot of practice
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:10:28 PM
#42
TMOG posted...
This is a really dumb hill to die on my man
the people who will be dying on hills are the ones who vehemently push back against AI advances in all areas of technology

better stop crying about it now and start learning to harness it
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:09:09 PM
#41
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



No it doesnt

Like all the other naysayers you LITERALLY do not understand how AI art works

Its not literally copying multiple sources together

You are so naive about how this stuff works its embarassing why dont you go educate yourself on how things like Stable Diffusion *actually* generate the images they produce

Its far more complicated than your stupid ignorant posts

as expected the people most "against" "AI art" are the ones who understand it the least

hey guess what? AI has already been in use for YEARS for art creation. You just didnt know it because it was not advertised as such. If you were an actual artist you might have realized this but you obviously arent so you dont
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:05:56 PM
#37
Smashingpmkns posted...
Inspiration =/= copying. When musicians copy other artists they rightfully get shit on.

It does not matter.

If I get a real life detailed accurate replica of the Mona Lisa and prop it up against a tree in the woods at dusk and shine some gel colored lights over it with mist and low contrast filters and take photos of it, its still a copy of the Mona Lisa

If I hang a replica of the Mona Lisa on a wall and take a photo of it, its still a copy of the Mona Lisa

If I tell an AI to generate the same, its still a copy of the Mona Lisa

the fact that AI is involved has absolutely zero signficance to anything
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:03:15 PM
#32
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


yes it is quite obvious that you have never actually used AI for art ever
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:01:55 PM
#30
Smashingpmkns posted...
Inspiration is different than taking pieces of already made art, smashing it together and calling it new.

Or hell, just flat out copying well established art pieces
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/0/AAPstsAAEAEI.jpg

This does not prove anything

you can take a photograph of the Mona Lisa, and you can paint yourself by hand a replica of the Mona Lisa

it does not change the provenance of any of the resulting works one bit
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 10:00:36 PM
#29
Musicians who inspired The Beatles;

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-10-musicians-who-inspired-the-beatles/

Musicians inspired by The Beatles;

https://www.loudersound.com/features/ten-bands-that-owe-it-all-to-the-beatles

Humans have been copying art from other humans for all of human existence

Now that we teach a computer to do it, it does not make it any different

All art is derivative and if you cannot understand that then you are a pretty lousy artist
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 9:54:54 PM
#22
there is literally no difference between

walking around a museum and creating an image in the style and subject of the paintings you saw

vs.

telling a computer to create an image based on the style and subject of paintings it has seen
TopicWhy are people against AI art?
LtZim
01/05/23 9:53:24 PM
#21
Smashingpmkns posted...
AI art literally steals from actual artists.
so does every human artist that has ever looked at a piece of art
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