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Umbreon posted...

I mean it's possible, but then with that set how does Blissey stop Arcanine from Howling to the point Reflect doesn't matter?

EQ set doesn't have the bulk to make Reflect work if I'm not mistaken.

Reflect wasn't for the Earthquake set it was the Defensive one. The only way I'd see an Offensive Blissey working is with Curse, which reinforces why it's a terrible idea.

Admittedly though some of these sets are based on prior knowledge(You normally wouldn't use Flamethrower unless you knew Sash + Counter was coming).

That's what most of this line of conversation would boil down to.

Umbreon posted...

Reflect doesn't help you if you're OHKO'd or knocked to critical health before you can set it up. Arcanine 100% outspeeds Blissey when both come in fresh.

Which would depend on the sets used and what you open with. Like if you went with your plan to break Sash with Flamethrower.

Umbreon posted...

*Actually replace Flare Blitz with Flamethrower on my example to break Sash without eating Counter

Kinda funny seeing people trying to go all in on making Arcanine win once it was pointed out Counter would KO.

Umbreon posted...

Like if someone set up Reflect for Blissey or set up sun for Arcanine for example.

Chansey can get Reflect from Gen 1, so Blissey wouldn't need someone else to set it up.

comicfire posted...

Ran some quick calcs https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/9/AARTUoAAD2SV.jpg

Putting aside that I'm pretty Chansey tends to be preferred here, how much would Counter do here?

CRON posted...

What makes this ten times worse is how Olivia Munn very obviously didn't want to be part of the relaunch so they hired a woman with a similar sounding name and vaguely similar ethnic background to literally play the role of Olivia Munn. They wasted no time and in the launch stream had her playing Tetris using her ass.

What.

Kimbos_Egg posted...

so they completely changed the laws

the way the ministry works

Not completely. We know about a handful of changes (removing the werewolf discrimination laws, house elf protection, formally shutting down Azkaban), but nothing that seems to amount to systemic changes to the magical society.

got rid of corruption

They probably got rid of any blatant pure blood bias, however anyone that sided with Voldemort (willing or otherwise) conveniently removed themselves. And we dont know if a widespread exists since the story is over by that point. However things like Harry releasing the Malfoys (you can make a case for Draco and Narcissa, but Lucious apparently never changed his views) and Ron hex his examiner that certain issues didnt go away.

ultimate_reaver posted...

people have been eternally repeating like all of these things for 5-6 years now on twitter, why is she getting attention for this in particular

People have been repeating a chunk of this stuff for well over a decade.

Kimbos_Egg posted...

yeah that makes a lot of sense if you've never read the books and know nothing about them.

Think the pro establishment part is correct. The books at most questions the people controlling the institutes rather than the society itself, and pretty much ends with the notion everything will be fixed with the right people are in power.

The issue with the status quo part is that most of the real changes happen after the story ends through snippets of WoG.

Background_Guy posted...

Uh, this twitter thread kinda proves you wrong doesn't it? It's clearly the leftists who are looking to HP for some grand political allegory. Everyone else just relaizes it's just a fantasy story about goods wizards fighting bad wizards. The first tweet condemns Rowling's writing for not being "left wing".

Very few leftist do that, at most people tend to highlight the politics Rowling intentionally put in her story. The thing is however is the people on various points of the political spectrum have consistently tried to paint Rowlings politics differently in an attempt Toto frame the situation as the left eating its own.