Lurker > Crescent-Moon

Nahyuta is awful and his sudden turn at the end does nothing to take the bad case out of my mouth

Does anyone actually like Nahyuta, though?

Is that the golden one?

LeonhartFour posted...

then don't hint that they're getting back together in the credits...!

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Such a trolljob I was a sucker for Iris.

LeonhartFour posted...

Phoenix/Iris should be canon

Where is Iris?

Bring Iris back.

The final showdown in E2-5 might have been my biggest disappointment in the entire series. I mean it wasn't terrible, but it paled in comparison to both the previous case and the previous game's final case.

Paratroopa1 posted...

AAI1 is an okay game, it's not that bad, E1-5 is a really good finale

Yep. Agree here. Except for the moments of "Peanut gallery chimes in at just the right time with decisive evidence", it's a well built case against a brick wall of a final opponent that makes you seriously work for it and I enjoy the takedown.

In contrast, AAI2's final case has some decent buildup for much of it, but it has two issues. The primary Little Thief section runs far too long, and the "final battle" feels really limp compared to the first game and it sours it a lot. It's easy, it's quick, and the primary villain lacks the presence and raw feeling of "menace" of a final boss. The primary villain of the previous case feels more more like a "final boss" than he does. Also, "Lion Balloon" is the correct answer like half the time.

Paratroopa1 posted...

New hot take: 4-3 is the only good case in AA4

While I can respect what they tried to do, 4-3 is just... There's too much "augh just make it stop" involved.

4-1 is in contention with 3-1 for best first case in the series. It's all downhill from there.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

2-4 isn't that good. Incredibly overrated culprit. AA2 has very little going for it.

Paratroopa1 posted...

people hate 6-4!

6-4 made Athena look like an incompetent idiot and may as well have reversed all of her character growth from PW5, and it had a terrible defendant. Yeah, 6-4 is bad.

Underleveled posted...

Wendy Oldbag is amusing more often than she is annoying.

3-3 is worse than 2-3.

3-3 is skirting the bottom tier of cases in the series for me. It remains Blade's pick for worst case in the entire series.

If there's one thing I can buy out of that claim it is scum shooting at me, because I thought there was a sizeable chance I'd get shot last night. I'm generally in that category of "good enough to be an obvious kill when near-certain town but not good enough to be an obvious save".

Basically I buy a scum team not shooting at Han or Lea in that situation because they expect them to get higher save priority than me.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Ulti, so using your POE, who do you think is the most likely scum? And, to everyone, do you think the lack of activity is because scum has kinda given up?

Isquen and Dumey haven't really been here much. And Sheep is asleep because time zones. But if that's the rest of scum, this is... boring.

Do you all think the Dumey/Sheep "I was gonna claim but went nah" was just scum theatre? Feels odd for that to be right out of the gate, but we went RIGHT INTO this game so...

I quickly dismissed Dumey/Sheep being a potential team. I don't even remember entirely why, just that it felt completely wrong on any conceivable level.

(Dumey pretty early on specifically said he wasn't miller but didn't say anything else, if you forgot)

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Didn't sheep claim vanilla yesterday?

Yep. One of the reasons I needled Sheep so much was to see if he'd just go "Fine I'm miller happy now" or some crap like that.

Also I can't for the life of me figure out a motive to lying about a miller claim when like the only guy in the entire game who suspects me has already scanned me but that's neither here nor there. I really wanted Dumey or Sheep to claim it so I could nuke them~

The fact that it's in my role has been increasing my Ulti paranoia every time I see him cop fish.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Litterally almost every miller I've ever seen has claimed immediately day 1....

Not my problem <3

But really the fact of the matter is I refuse to do it on principle. An instant miller claim effectively townconfirms me because it is not something I would do as scum.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

I guess but if you got scanned guilty. And claimed it after no one would ever beleive you...

Town does not live in fear of being scanned.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

So you scan scum?

Why wouldnt you claim the miller earlier?

I would never first post claim miller as scum, so I would never do it as town. It's that simple.

Also secondary incentive came after Dumey and Sheep did whatever the hell they were doing. I was hoping one of them would claim miller so I could immediately counter claim and murder them while hiding I was power.

Of course the one probably town player in the entire game who actually thought I was scum outed me anyway so...

Bulletproof Doctor now really

wallmasterz posted...

meanwhile

ulti: my entire argument for not being scum hinges on the fact I would never do that thing
crescent: oh he absolutely would do that thing
also crescent: doesnt vote for ulti

Better question: What have I done to give you an impression that I would do what is effectively a hero play on day 2 based only on paranoia?

wallmasterz posted...

wow youre right if we just assume ctes, crescent and jc are all town power then were only missing one two power and the game will be solved for scum once the last town power claims

side note Im looking to buy a bridge, you sellin any?

Ok this feels like town snark.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

I am town. May I ask why, specifically, you wish for me to claim?

Wrong topic?

We have no NHL topic right now soooo

wallmasterz posted...

Fair question. Judging from ultis whole *gestures to ulti* I am convinced theres nothing he wouldnt do from a strategy standpoint, so long as its ethical. I can sense he genuinely respects Chris as a mafia player but him getting all shy about bussing Chris is a complete contradiction of everything else about him. I dont buy hes scared of Chris for a second

also i guess I shouldve specified its what I personally found the most suspicious, not trying to make any objective statements about it

Oh there games years ago where Ulti didn't even care if it was ethical or not. But yes, bussing anyone at anytime is something he is capable of.

The Islanders stole one from the Pens again wow.

They somehow might actually survive this season.

"Hi this is my first game here"

"He said he wouldn't bus Chris it's the scummiest thing all game"

Like... I don't see how this logically tracks and I'd really like him to explain this.

wallmasterz posted...

##Unvote

##Vote: Ulti

this is the most suspicious thing Ive seen from ulti all game lol

This bugs me a little bit.

..How would you specifically know whether or not it's something he'd do that you could immediately place a vote for that comment?

You and Lea are both capable of hard bussing anyone in the game on day 1.

While I do think Lea is town, you've been red flagging me all day.

Mostly what I wanted to get out there was if this guy is still alive at lylo murder it because I will certainly not be alive at that point.

wallmasterz posted...

cant we just lynch ulti now

if anyone is pulling shenanigans with Chris allowing his own death, its ulti, especially since Ulti made a big point of telling us Chris would never allow it

plus ultis soldiers deserve some pto

It has bugged me a little bit that Ulti has never admitted that bus is totally in his wheelhouse and keeps saying Han is the only one who could've bussed there.

UltimaterializerX posted...

None of this is live content or scum hunting. Its a big marshmallow poof.

Just claim.

This I do agree on though. Isquen's post said absolutely nothing.

UltimaterializerX posted...

Sure lets mass!!

Crescent first then Isquen.

Ok, here's my half-claim.

I'm Elim Garak, a miller-power role (I feel like miller-power roles have gotten a little too common in my recent games) that thinks you're aggressively trying to figure out who cop is so you can deal with them. I think you should be instantly lynched if you're still alive in final 3-4, because a hardcore bus, a BP claim, and cop fishing is basically right in your one-man-army scum wheelhouse that I've caught you on before but didn't have the spine to push through on.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Egads?

wallmasterz posted...

Please could you stop the noise?
Crescents trying to get some rest

from all the unknown borg-like
voices in her head

What

I'm pondering half claiming because something is making me really paranoid and it would better let me discuss it.

Stay tuned I guess.

Chaeix posted...

I was mostly just getting express clarification because I couldnt tell if Leas reaction was fully sarcastic or just the second paragraph, and if Lea was taking it seriously I wasnt sure if I had missed something.

But thanks for the unnecessary potshot at my intelligence, youve been doing that a lot this game.

I can do dumb things, yes, but youre kind of toeing the line of insulting me as a person and not the individual things Im doing and its really not appreciated.

I had to edit down this post from much stronger words.

It's a "look at me not paying attention and screwing up again" kind of thing which I believe you are good enough to fake.

Sultan on the other hand.. Was probably just failing at reading comprehension.

UltimaterializerX posted...

This is the greatest game ever played LMFAO

There are a lot of people so far who if town leave me very worried about how this is going to go for town after the strong players are all dead.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

Well we got a cop claim and a guilty scan sooo. I didn't think this was a real claim!

##unvote
##vote:sheep

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Are you just trying to fake being dumb at this point it's been established by Han himself he's not cop.

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HanOfTheNekos posted...

actually I've been breadcrumbing that I'm Town this whole game. How many times have I said "Town"? Hmm?

I haven't meowed anywhere near enough people need to know I'm a kitty

Chaeix posted...

but Han using the phrase doesnt actually mean youre claiming cop right

Are you just trying to fake being dumb at this point it's been established by Han himself he's not cop.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

DOWN WITH THE BRITISH

HanOfTheNekos posted...

"cop on" isn't a typo. That's a real phrase

According to the internet it basically means the exact same thing as "Come on" so why does it even exist

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

You mean scanning and outing unclaimed, near-obvious town wouldn't be a good play if JC is town?

Perish the thought!

Chaeix posted...

there is zero chance BCT and Sheep are scumbuddies if BCT still thinks Sheep hasnt claimed >_>

I agree with this but I think BCT isn't scum anyway

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Oh this feels obvious to me but I've been letting it marinate a bit to see what shakes out. I just thought he meant to write "Come on" because that makes way more sense than "Cop on" and something weird happened.

Ulti sure has been cop fishing today.

GAA1 gets a lot more flak than it deserves and GAA2 is excellent.

wallmasterz posted...

Im 95% on town ctes but after the Han/ctes madness in Paper Mario, lets not rule out death being scums actual target to set up a doc saved someone and Im town vigilante claim for scum ctes

With most of the game unclaimed the chances town has something that could counterclaim killing seems rather high though.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

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Hey Lea, I'm going to see a hockey game. While I'm gone, I trust you can keep some semblance of logic and sanity here.

You're trusting Lea to keep some semblance of sanity?

That's it, we're dead.

Chris' role is basically a setup role that lets scum autowin at lylo, under certain conditions. It's the kind of role he never would've used until the last moment, and scum with temporarily doublevoting powers has existed before.

I remember Blade was once scum in a game that had a role like that, and he organized a scumhammer on a scumbuddy at lylo to set up the win.

Just by setup meta, it essentially means there's zero chance scum has an EK of any sort, and likely means they have no unblockable kill. His flip alone was why any theory that involved scum possibly shooting twice last night was nonsense.

But this is really all it tells us.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Let's look at Sheep this game:

"I'm ignoring that Han said he agreed with arguments on me in the literal post where he provides one more and pretending that he has only that one argument"

"Han's unvote is bad and is also why he is Scum"

"I baited Han's unvote... which I'm pretending he would have done as either alignment"

"JC's Scan of Crescent was VERY BAD." (that's a perspective slip, since that one might be tougher for y'all)

Just for him to lay out with "Do you think that Han saying who would be the best mislynch target on Day 2 is not a Scum kill is TOO MUCH INFORMATION?"

Like Jesus Christ.

Chris didn't make it past Day 1 because he wasn't playing well enough to meet Town Chris standards. Particularly in regard to me. He was asking pointless questions, he was making bad arguments.

Sheep is a better player than this. Cop on.

Sheep has been very odd this game and I've never seen him anywhere near like this. The early impression I gave of him day 1 was he felt like someone who seemed disappointed to have rolled scum.

A fair amount of today, like yesterday, has felt "off". I mean like by the time he made that accusation on you I don't even know how many people had already implied it, so why did he make it on you in the first place?

And yes, his reaction to JC claiming a scan on me is extremely black and white and essentially just looks to be assuming we're both town when he didn't even really process JC until after the fact.

ctesjbuvf posted...

If JC is scum, the whole scum team already knows Crescent moves. What's the scum equity in sharing the info as town as well?

Also having had the knowledge of how Death died at the time - I vibed the least with Ulti's responses to Sheep. It really sounded like trying to lock into an explanation that also allowed an attack on Sheep to me.

The equity would be "JC is scum claiming his own role and target in an attempt to appear town".

Hell my last scum game I claimed my own role and I stomped the life out of that town.

She.

If you're not gonna read half the shit I post anyway at least get my gender right.

Sheep007 posted...

Hm. Getting to JC's claim on my reread. I kinda like the claim itself? Possibly just due to him pulling an early claim from my handbook. Dancing around the scan... kinda less so? But I also feel like it's a little more town to bumble around it - Scum probably thinks a claim like that through before doing it, and also probably have claims preprepared, especially with Chris around. Scum JC doesn't have much reason to claim early there and bungle the reveal. I want to look back on the D1 thoughts on Crescent from JC though, because I really am struggling to understand why that scumread happens and also why you don't just try and catch a vanilla claim? I dunno, I've never really had that role, but every time we discuss motion detector, it being a vanilla scanner feels like its primary function?

I don't remember him ever acknowledging I existed outside of saying he null read me in his wall post.