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Ukraine should been in NATO long ago.

They should be put into NATO asap

silverpine posted...

why did you assume that i assumed nukes only come in one size

If you didn't then congrats

maybe don't take threads personally? there are users here who did and some of them got mad ITT and resorted to trolling

Explaining to you that this info is critical to DEBUNK a view that supports Russia is not "I know you are but what am I"

It should allow you to come to your senses if you were a reasonable person and see that if you did actually care about Ukraine that people knowing there are different levels of Nukes is very helpful to understanding the current situation

people don't quite get how Putin could use a nuke if he wants Ukraine, this explains it

now you know to

don't be mad to learn

looks like you realized the pinch you were in but don't want to concede defeat?

your last post was literally an elementary school retort

and you have been trying to help a stupid argument that is used to support Russia as you been giving a view that Russia would never use a nuke, fuel by trying to keep people ignorant on this subject

hope you learned something

Tmaster148 posted...

You are literally showing with this topic you care more about the accuracy of how deadly nukes are over the actual act of nuking another country.

I'm sorry I don't put up with pro-russian bs from people like you.

FURTHER

this info IS important to SUPPORTING Ukraine

because people are literally saying Russia would never use Nukes because of their IGNORANCE on this issue

because they think you cannot use a nuke in a country you are trying to conquer

you are actually being the one to add to support Russia here by giving this ignorant line of thinking more fuel

so shut the f*** up

FURTHER

this info IS important to SUPPORTING Ukraine

because people are literally saying Russia would never use Nukes because of their IGNORANCE on this issue

because they think you cannot use a nuke in a country you are trying to conquer

you are actually being the one to support Russia here by giving this ignorant line of thinking more fuel

so shut the fuck up

Tmaster148 posted...

You are literally the one who decided the most important part of the discussion of nukes is how deadly they are instead of the offensive action against another country.

I made this thread because people been showing they only think 1 type of nuke exists which means said country nuked dissappears

I am not stopping discussion on what to do about Russia using them nor did I start that discussion in this thread

sorry if your feeling got hurt cause you were not educated in this matter and did not realize there is many different sizes and what Russia is trying to do

Also kinda ironic that I constantly say Ukraine should have already been made a NATO country and CAN STILL be made on today and should be

yet you still try this

Ricemills posted...

it's not about taking over anymore, it's to protect the fragile ego.

it would be to nuke the entire ukraine military by hitting the military compounds

this results in death tolls of horrendous numbers

but it is not factual to say the country no longer exists to be occupied

Stalinrules posted...

Not if they use tactical nukes.

and people said my thread didn't need to be made

Tmaster seems to think the horrible deaths of hundreds upon thousands of people is defending the use of a weapon?

holy moly these posters

Tmaster148 posted...

This is such a weird way to defend nuking Ukraine.

fyi nuking a base is killing hundreds of thousands of people in the initial blast and even more with the fallout

the irony is people reading the actual facts of what a smaller nuke does and thinking "oh you are making this not look so bad" are not thinking very hard

please try harder next time

nuking a city would be millions

not my fault you thought every nuke destroys a continent

MachineJaipur posted...

China would never nuke Taiwan because the only vested interest China has in Taiwan, besides domestic platitudes towards it historically being a part of China, is the semiconductor factories/farms on Taiwan. If you nuke Taiwan, you destroy the factories and boom, you've set your goal back for many years, if not decades.

And if China somehow didn't destroy the factories with nukes, Taiwan would sabotage the factories if China did nuke the island.

I think you underestimate the kinds of line in the sand that would be drawn post-nuke use. China would abandon Russia in a heartbeat over it. Russia is nothing to China compared to the rest of the global market. The only theoretical use Russia is to China is as a geopolitical tool. As soon as that tool becomes too hot to fuck with, they'll drop it. Using a nuke makes them too hot to fuck with.

Small nukes exist.

spikethedevil posted...

We dont need another Duncan with the Nuclear WW3 concern trolling.

current event:
Putin deploys tactical nuke to warzone
Putin appoints general who is pro using nuke

"rarhaha ww3 concern trolling!"

Let us hope it does not happen but you are the one trolling here. Go read the news.

LightHawKnight posted...

I mean no widespread nuclear fallout still means there is nuclear fallout.

Putin doesn't seem the type to care as long as it means he takes the oil reserves and other parts of the country.

uwnim posted...

I mean, you got folks thinking a nuke will leave whatever it is used on uninhabitable for decades. So yeah, depending on who you are talking to, nukes arent as bad as they think.

yea

these posters have to either be trolling or really really uninformed about how this stuff works

hmm
hmm

hmm

Cocytus posted...

Well we just need to call George W. Bush in on this one then since he's the one who saw inside his soul.

what is this from?

SSJKirby posted...

Nukes aren't THAT bad you guys sheesh!

Nukes are horrible and would kill millions.

Surely you are trolling?

"oh no please don't explain that my view that every nuke blows up a continent is not factual else I will try to twist what you say!"

holy moly these posters

are you like upset you had the learn something today?

MedeaLysistrata posted...

What did you say?

I don't have faith that our world leaders respond knee jerk nuking Russia to a crater if they use a small nuke

they should have entered Ukraine into NATO long ago, even NOW is not too late

Axiom posted...

So basically TC is saying that smaller bombs don't justify a response. Lol wow

not what I said

BurmesePenguin posted...

I dont know hes a Putin defender. Explain.

wait wtf

that guy definitely trolling

Eramir posted...

Dont pretend youre a smart know it all TC, no one is claiming the scale of these nukes, they are concerned about escalation. Everyone knows youre a Putin defender too

excuse me but guy literally asked why you would nuke a country you wanted to take over

so nice try :P

theAteam posted...

What size nuke would garner a nuclear response from the rest of the nuclear capable militaries?

you mean what size would cause other countries to fire a nuke?

I think it would be if they shot one across continent into a major city otherwise it is all about politics

that is, if they use a smaller nuke to blow up a base in Ukraine, I doubt Russia get nuked

other countries will threaten it and ultimately it could happen but it wouldn't be a knee jerk response

Seems many people don't really know all the advances made with this weaponry and can only picture a hollywood style where one bomb blows up an entire continent.

What Russia is considering using is called a tactical Nuke.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60664169

What are tactical nuclear weapons?
Tactical nuclear weapons are small nuclear warheads and delivery systems intended for use on the battlefield, or for a limited strike.
They are designed to destroy enemy targets in a specific area without causing widespread radioactive fallout.
The smallest tactical nuclear weapons can be one kiloton or less (producing the equivalent to a thousand tonnes of the explosive TNT). The largest ones can be as big as 100 kilotons.
Strategic nuclear weapons are larger (up to 1,000 kilotons) and are launched from longer range.

By comparison, the atomic bomb the US dropped on Hiroshima in 1945 was 15 kilotons.

So Putin using Nukes doesn't mean Ukraine goes off the map.

This isn't a "if I can't have it no one can!" scenario

The idea behind a tactical nuke would be to either utterly destroy a whole military compoud. drill through a strong barrier like a base built in a mountain.

blow up half of a city.

blow up a whole city

These have never been used before in real combat. Even smaller scale nukes are still nukes and will violate virtually every treaty that exists.

they make smaller nukes fyi

this is not talking giant bomb that blows up the whole country

GranolaPanic posted...

If Putin is stupid enough to authorize use of any yield nuclear weapon he has to realize that Russia will be made into a smoldering crater, right?

Yet he knows your country also doesn't want to be a crater and may think "it is just Ukraine..."

and he might be right

Stalinrules posted...

If we do not, then Russia will nuke any non NATO country they want to conquer.

This is what Zelensky said though.

Let them invade Ukraine they will do as they please. Did not get them NATO status.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

They HAVE to know that if they use a nuke no matter how small it is, it will mean game over for russia.

Will it though? That is the question.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO because the rest of the world wanted to avoid such a situation with Russia to begin with. Now the idea is "oh well, if they use a small nuke then of course we come to assist."

FortuneCookie posted...

Does Russia operate under a monarchy? Does Putin claim divine right of kings? Does he tell his people they'll go to Hell for all eternity if they disobey him?

There comes a point when you tell the boss to fuck off and find someone else to be in charge.

Article says this guy in particular backs Putin's war and wants to use low level nukes.

Seems the world is going to be tested by what might by barks but is hard to tell.

Are you willing to retaliate if Russia uses Nukes against Ukraine when you weren't willing to let them into NATO for the very same logic and reason... ?

https://timesofmalta.com/articles/view/chechen-leader-backs-use-nuclear-weapons-made-general-putin.985463

Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, an ally of President Vladimir Putin, said Wednesday he was granted a top rank in Russia's army, just as Moscow's forces suffer a series of defeats in Ukraine.
The 46-year-old Chechen leader -- one of the most outspoken voices in Russia backing Putin's Ukraine offensive -- said it was a "huge honour" for him.
Kadyrov, a former warlord who rules Chechnya with widespread violations of human rights, said Putin had "personally" informed him of the decision.
"The President of Russia awarded me the rank of colonel general," Kadyrov said on Telegram. "This is a promotion for me."
The rank of colonel general is the third highest command rank in the Russian military hierarchy.
Kadyrov's appointment to the rank came as the Ukrainian army pushed back Moscow's forces in areas that the Kremlin proclaimed to be "Russian forever."
The Chechen leader said he would do "everything to end the special military operation quickly" -- using the Kremlin's term for its Ukraine campaign.
Chechen units -- including Kadyrov's own militia with a sinister reputation, the "Kadyrovtsi" -- are fighting alongside regular Russian forces in Ukraine.
Kadyrov has thrown his full backing behind Putin's campaign, regularly calling for the most drastic tactics to be used in Ukraine.
This week he called on Moscow to use low-yield nuclear weapons in Ukraine after Russian troops were forced to retreat from the town of Lyman.

wow 7 posts before majorie taylor green mentioned

Will_VIIII posted...

Well of course they'd make record profits during a time where we had record hospitalizations and record capacity.

uhhh

you just said that people getting hospitalized in record numbers was breaking them forcing a raise and using people like you to subsidize....

Will_VIIII posted...

I'm subsidizing those morons.

yet hospitals and insurance make record profits

so how did you subsidize them?

https://www.live5news.com/2022/02/03/health-insurance-companies-make-record-profits-costs-soar-us/

like take a moment and actually think about this all

their business is literally to provide a service for people to get sick and get in the hospital

the anti-vaxxers may be idiots but they are not abusing the system, this is literally why this product SUPPOSEDLY exists

and they STILL made record profits

you actually believe they would not raise the price if anti-vaxxers did not exist?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/2/4/AAefUOAADv2Y.jpg

Hook.

Line.

and sinker

fyi not even anti-vaxxers fault

rates go up as by design...of the fucking insurance companies themselves

this is the whole "that other guy wants your cookie!" meme and you fell for it

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

Gas is high! Who's in office? Are they on my team? No? Then it's their fault!

they will literally say it is Biden's fault for giving Ukraine weapons using OUR TAX DOLLARS and sending in CIA Agents to anger Putin.

etc

Wonder if he gives a tip.

Basically an indirect way to punish Nato countries.

btw what does rightwing mean here?

Trumpers?

as in the people who made this had something in mind, what was it?

Yet you made this thread. Seems you care.

Also Square has a lot of titles coming. People will care when they release and happen to be good.

ZevLoveDOOM posted...

the comics seem like its just gratuitous gore and blood for the sake of it.

i prefer the direction the show is taking tbh...

I feel the show does this too

could be the right wing women either dislike dating apps or don't need them

I would imagine more are religious than are not and thus have chance to meet right wing men in churches or they have the opinion that dating apps are only for a certain type of woman they dislike

Jupiter posted...

I think the TV show has strayed far enough from the comics that I doubt anything like this happens in the TV show.

well where they are at atm is Homelander being Trump and able to shoot a man (with laser eyes) in a crowd in broad daylight on 5th avenue and people cheer him

maybe they will just have the real homelander eat a baby to prove he can do it and get away with it

darkprince45 posted...

I feel like theres a big part missing now as to why that wont happen

I feel they can and might still make it happen or maybe it would be too disturbing.

Obviously that comic ver of Black Noir is not the same as the one we saw so...

Very likely could spoil next season.

YOU ARE WARNED

MANGA SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Black Noir pretends to be Homelander and eat babies

https://whatculture.com/comics/10-most-disturbing-comic-book-panels-of-all-time?page=7

Will they actually CGI a person eating a baby alive?

You still eat Arbys?

Elon Musk got brainwashed by the stupidest Russian propaganda.

So can Dean only play himself?

Ikzai posted...

Sam's too busy beating people up in bars and being Walker Texas Ranger. (If that's even still on)

badass

Literally Robert Singer and Dean.

Watch Sam show up next season or something.