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-hotdogturtle-- posted...

What is the win-loss-tie score in this ranking? What is it being compared against?

I took every pair of albums and calculated who would win. So, in a direct match, Sonata Arctica beat out 14 of the other albums, lost to 6 of them, and tied with 4.

Sorry this is going so slow. A lot is happening in my life right now (in a generally positive way) so I've been distracted.

I'm at 4,021

Finally!

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Since most of mine have been serious, here's one that always makes me laugh

"I want you to touch that lil' dangly thing that swing in the back of my throat"
-Cardi B, "WAP"

A lot of the song deals in surprisingly colorful and specific language, so this one line where she seemingly forgets a word but goes with it anyway really stands out

"We're all working on ourselves, and we're praying that the rest don't mind how much we've changed"
-Black Country, New Road, "Basketball Shoes"

Probably my favorite line from last year. BCNR tend to speak in abstract terms, so this straightforward line hits especially hard in the final track of its album.

"You've been in his fist ever since you were a kid, but you don't owe him shit even if he said you did"
-Lucy Dacus, "Thumbs"

This one is more personal. The entirety of "Thumbs" is sung to a partner who feels guilted into keeping contact with their abusive father. This particular line feels like exactly what I wanted someone to say to me growing up. I finally cut ties with my father after getting a new phone number a few years back, but this song was the first thing to make me feel right about doing so. I think this line has made me cry more than anything else.

In Flames - Colony results

The participants sorted by deviation from final results:
FoolFantastic (18)
MaxGalactica (18)
HBJDubs (22)
Raetsel_Lapin (32)
Seanchan (42)

General Album Comments

HBJDubs: In a genre that is extremely hit or miss with me, early In Flames is consistent with releasing solid albums, and Colony is no exception. There is one thing In Flames is really good at, and that is making fantastic instrumentals; Man Made God fits the bill here.

Raetsel_Lapin: Sorry, but this just isn't a style of metal that I find appealing.

Seanchan: A fairly arbitrary ranking overall. I feel like I've gone through many phases of liking different parts of this album. It's solid overall, though what I always take from it, and In Flames in general, is just certain solos and instrumental bits. I'll have some of those stuck back in my head for weeks!

MaxGalactica: The vocals are definitely not my thing on this album, but I really like the guitar work throughout this one, especially in the first 7 songs I listed above. Nice album overall.

track ranking

12. Scorn (Track #3)
Score: 15 (Average Rank: 10/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#6)
Biggest Detractor(s): FoolFantastic, HBJDubs (#12)

11. The New Word (Track #11)
Score: 19 (Average Rank: 9.4/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): FoolFantastic, HBJDubs, Raetsel_Lapin, MaxGalactica (#11)

10. Insipid 2000 (Track #10)
Score: 21 (Average Rank: 8.8/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#5)
Biggest Detractor(s): Seanchan, MaxGalactica (#12)

9. Resin (Track #8)
Score: 23 (Average Rank: 8.4/12)
Biggest Fan(s): FoolFantastic (#6)
Biggest Detractor(s): Seanchan (#11)

8. Coerced Coexistence (Track #7)
Score: 27 (Average Rank: 7.6/12)
Biggest Fan(s): HBJDubs (#5)
Biggest Detractor(s): FoolFantastic, Seanchan (#10)

7. Behind Space '99 (Track #9)
Score: 29 (Average Rank: 7.2/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#4)
Biggest Detractor(s): MaxGalactica (#9)

6. Embody the Invisible (Track #1)
Score: 39 (Average Rank: 5.6/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs (#10)

5. Zombie Inc. (Track #5)
Score: 43 (Average Rank: 5/12)
Biggest Fan(s): MaxGalactica (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#9)

4. Colony (Track #4)
Score: 50 (Average Rank: 4.2/12)
Biggest Fan(s): FoolFantastic, HBJDubs, Raetsel_Lapin (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): Seanchan (#9)

3. Ordinary Story (Track #2)
Score: 52 (Average Rank: 4.2/12)
Biggest Fan(s): FoolFantastic, Raetsel_Lapin (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Seanchan (#8)

2. Pallar Anders Visa (Track #6)
Score: 52 (Average Rank: 3.6/12)
Biggest Fan(s): MaxGalactica (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): FoolFantastic, Seanchan (#5)

1. Man Made God (Track #12)
Score: 55 (Average Rank: 4/12)
Biggest Fan(s): HBJDubs, Seanchan (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#12)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48-z85QquO8

9. Sonata Arctica - Ecliptica (1999)
Win-Loss-Tie: 14-6-4 (Score: 16)
Average Rank: 10.75/25
Top Three Tracks: Destruction Preventer, FullMoon, Replica

Individual Rankings:
HBJDubs: 2
Seanchan: 2
neonreaper: 4
Snake5555555555: 12
Johnbobb: 13
rwlh: 13
Raetsel_Lapin: 19
FoolFantastic: 21
MetalmindStats: unranked

rwlh: There is so much metal on this list oh my god. They all sound pretty distinct though. Like this album has some nice symphonic 80s-ish cheese to it, a la Judas Priest.
Favorite song: My Land

Seanchan: Another album I loved back in the day that I hadnt listened to in a few years. Hearing this was falling back in love with Sonata Arctica all over again. Its the type of metal that I love, big, loud, fast, kind of stupid, but pulled off with absolute sincerity.

FoolFantastic: The type of metal that has basically never clicked with me. Maybe someday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRdxUFDoQe0

10. Michael Jackson - Thriller (1982)
Win-Loss-Tie: 14-9-1 (Score: 14.5)
Average Rank: 11.34/25
Top Three Tracks: Beat It, Billie Jean, Thriller

Individual Rankings:
Raetsel_Lapin: 3
rwlh: 5
HBJDubs: 6
Seanchan: 9
neonreaper: 10
FoolFantastic: 11
MetalmindStats: 15/22
Snake5555555555: 20
Johnbobb: 21

rwlh: Seems divided between amazing songs andless than amazing songs, but the amazing ones outweigh the others.
Favorite song: Wanna Be Startin Somethin

Seanchan: Obviously Thriller is a classic with some of the biggest pop hits of all time. At the same time, Im not that big on the non-singles here. When youve had as many hit singles as MJs had, its kind of hard sometimes to want to listen to his lesser songs.

FoolFantastic: A pop classic, but its legacy has always felt a bit inflated to me. I honestly think his previous album, Off the Wall, is a better whole. Half of the songs here are all-timers, but I largely prefer them on their own.

"I wouldn't trade one stupid decision for another five years of life"
-LCD Soundsystem, "All My Friends"

"Ooh, I just know that something good is gonna happen
I don't know when, but just saying it could even make it happen"
-Kate Bush, "Cloudbusting"

"Yes, I wish that for just one time you could stand inside my shoes
Youd know what a drag it is to see you"
-Bob Dylan, "Positively 4th Street"

My opinion on Krakoa is the same as most new locations - it would probably be fine but shoving it into half of the matches upfront makes me immediately resent its presence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKcbYUwmmlE

11. Slipknot - Vol. 3 The Subliminal Verses (2004)
Win-Loss-Tie: 11-7-6 (Score: 14)
Average Rank: 12/25
Top Three Tracks: Vermilion, Vermilion Pt. 2, Duality

Individual Rankings:
Johnbobb: 2
Snake5555555555: 5
HBJDubs: 8
neonreaper: 8
Seanchan: 14
FoolFantastic: 17
Raetsel_Lapin: 18
rwlh: 24
MetalmindStats: unranked

rwlh: This started out so cool but I didnt like anything other than the first song. This is the only album (other than my last placer) I can say that I disliked. Of note though, my leg kept bouncing to the heavy beats, so it wasnt a total loss.
Favorite song: Prelude 3.0

Seanchan: This is a tough one to rank for me, despite having heard it many times over the years. Theres parts that are still interesting/good but then theres swaths of this I dont really need to hear again. It remains more palatable to me in 2023 than Slipknots earlier albums but nu-metal isnt necessarily a sound thats stood the test of time.

FoolFantastic: One of the surprises for me, not that I particularly loved it but I expected the opposite and walked away thinking it was pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyxBBFNqXCo

12. Ween - Quebec (2003)
Win-Loss-Tie: 12-11-1 (Score: 12.5)
Average Rank: 13.31/25
Top Three Tracks: Transdermal Celebration, Tried and True, Happy Colored Marbles

Individual Rankings:
Johnbobb: 6
neonreaper: 7
MetalmindStats: 6/22
Raetsel_Lapin: 14
FoolFantastic: 15
Seanchan: 15
rwlh: 16
Snake5555555555: 17

rwlh: Decent enough, but nothing really stood out. I tended to enjoy the weirder songs more.
Favorite song: So Many People in the Neighborhood

Seanchan: If variety is the spice of life, Quebec really emptied the rack. This album is all over the place, and thats sometimes good and sometimes bad. But its at least interesting, even if I have a hard time thinking that any single person would like everything on offer here.

FoolFantastic: Just one of those wild albums that showcase a band doing whatever they want. A lot of fun, but little of it stuck with me.

I decided to actually check if I had 'a few dozen' hip hop albums I rank higher than Illmatic or if I was exaggerating, but it came in at #38 among hip hop albums in my last list update. Which is still high enough to land in my 9/10 zone!

Anyway, here are my top 38 hip hop albums since I took the time to comb through my list; maybe I should actually nominate some of these sometime (some may be edge cases):
Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly
Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d. city
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
Little Simz - Sometimes I Might Be Introvert
Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Madvillain - Madvillainy
M.I.A. - Kala
The Streets - Original Pirate Material
Kanye West - The College Dropout
Eric B. and Rakim - Paid in Full
Public Enemy - Fear of a Black Planet
Death Grips - The Money Store
Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition
Wu-Tang Clan - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner
Tyler, the Creator - Call Me If You Get Lost
The Notorious B.I.G. - Ready to Die
OutKast - Stankonia
Kanye West - Late Registration
The Streets - A Grand Don't Come for Free
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
M.I.A. - Arular
A Tribe Called Quest - People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm
Missy Elliot - Supa Dupa Fly
OutKast - Aquemini
Kendrick Lamar - DAMN.
Run the Jewels - Run the Jewels 2
Jay-Z - The Blueprint
De La Soul - 3 Feet High and Rising
Kanye West - Yeezus
N.W.A. - Straight Outta Compton
Vince Staples - Summertime '06
The Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II the Pharcyde
Missy Elliot - Miss E...So Addictive
Run the Jewels - RTJ4
Nas - Illmatic

A phenomenal album from beginning to end. If I prefer the singles, it's more due to exposure than any fault in the rest of the tracks. I feel like a lot of the post-grunge bands took after Pearl Jam in particular. The fact most of those bands became punchlines shows that, even if Pearl Jam's music sounds relatively simple to imitate, it takes a ton of talent to pull it off with convincingly raw emotions. "Black" feels like the underappreciated gem of the grunge era; it's rare for a song to be this vulnerable while also going this hard.

My ranking:
Black
Jeremy
Alive
Even Flow
Release
Oceans
Once
Deep
Why Go
Porch
Garden
Master/Slave

Godspell Original Off-Broadway Cast Recording > Goo Goo Dolls - Dizzy Up the Girl > Talking Heads - Little Creatures

Voting against one of my favorite bands because there are half a dozen Talking Heads albums I would rather us cover and I don't want people voting against them when they come up due to them already being covered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI8A14Qcv68

13. Nas - Illmatic (1994)
Win-Loss-Tie: 11-11-2 (Score: 12)
Average Rank: 12.92/25
Top Three Tracks: N.Y. State of Mind, The World is Yours, Life's a Bitch

Individual Rankings:
rwlh: 1
Johnbobb: 4
FoolFantastic: 9
Raetsel_Lapin: 11
HBJDubs: 13
neonreaper: 17
Snake5555555555: 18
MetalmindStats: 17/22
Seanchan: 24

rwlh: After a slowish start, I really got into this. Illmatic has an incredible sense of time and place. Its really stuck with me, more than most on this list.
Favorite song: Lifes a Bitch

Seanchan: Rap is a genre where you have to really do something special for me to take notice. While I know this is considered a classic, it just didnt do much for me.

FoolFantastic: Obviously a classic hip hop album, though there are a few dozen I would take over it, both before and after its release. It's hard for me to put my finger on why, but I think I simply prefer the production on most other major rap albums. Having it constantly talked up as an all-time greatest by some people makes me feel less into it than I am.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D3TrpQ_nFo

14. black midi - Hellfire (2022)
Win-Loss-Tie: 12-12-0 (Score: 12)
Average Rank: 13.12/25
Top Three Tracks: Sugar/Tzu, Eat Men Eat, Welcome to Hell

Individual Rankings:
FoolFantastic: 7
MetalmindStats: 8
Snake5555555555: 8
Johnbobb: 9
rwlh: 12
neonreaper: 15
Raetsel_Lapin: 16
HBJDubs: 21
Seanchan: 21

rwlh: Big and ambitious and weird and terrific.
Favorite song: Sugar/Tzu

Seanchan: Manic. Distressing. Kinda jazzy? I wouldnt exactly call this an easy listen. Just didnt quite land for me the way I might have wanted it to.

FoolFantastic: A big chaotic journey that never lets you ease into its sound. Hallucinatory and enthralling, shifting drastically between moods yet never losing its step.

poll for darkx's week:
Godspell Original Off-Broadway Cast Recording
vs.
Goo Goo Dolls - Dizzy Up the Girl
vs.
Talking Heads - Little Creatures

Previous results can be seen here:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks_Set_2
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks_Set_3

The rules:
1. Listen to the album in full
2. Rank every track on the album
3. For the results, there will be a curve at the top of each list; two additional points between #1 and #2, and one additional point for the next two ranks. This way, the songs that really stick out to someone get an edge that is not immediately negated by someone else putting it lower. In the case of Demon Days, someone's 15th track will get 1 point, 14th 2 points, 4th 12 points, 3rd 14 points, 2nd 16 points, and 1st 19 points. For albums with greater than 15 tracks, everything ranked below #15 will be given 0 points and the scale for the top 15 will be the same as a 15-track album. For albums with more than 20 tracks, you only have to list your top 15 (with 16-20, I still like having the average rank listed)
4. If you want to include comments for individual songs, I will compile them in the results
5. The results will be posted at the beginning of the next topic
6. The deadline to vote is Sunday, April 2 at 4:00 PM Central Time; the future week poll will close earlier, when I am putting up the next topic
7. You can sign up to be added to the user cycle (a new user will be added to the end of the current cycle as long as there are four weeks remaining) - the next person on the list will choose 3 albums which the other users will vote on for the next topic.
7a. To ensure people are being given an actual choice, the three nominated albums must be by different artists. You can otherwise stick to a similar sound or era.
7b. The tiebreaker for these polls will be whichever is listed first in the poll options - make sure to deliver the results in order of your own preference (which will hopefully have the added benefit of influencing people toward your first choice if they can't decide).
7c. I have added a tiered vote structure - the least popular album will be removed and its backup votes distributed to the other two entrants.
8. Starting with the next cycle, every four weeks will be a competitive week where those listed choose a single album to face off against others.
9. Skits and tracks under 40 seconds will be excluded from the rankings unless argued otherwise

Pearl Jam - Ten track list:
1. Once
2. Even Flow
3. Alive
4. Why Go
5. Black
6. Jeremy
7. Oceans
8. Porch
9. Garden
10. Deep
11. Release
12. Master/Slave (hidden track)

Current cycle:
4/2: Giggsalot (Bob Marley and the Wailers - Exodus)
4/9: RyoCaliente (The Smiths - The Queen is Dead)
4/16: darkx
4/23: Snake5555555555/Raetsel_Lapin/Seanchan
4/30: neonreaper
5/7: Great_Paul
5/14: jcgamer107
5/21: Giggsalot/MetalmindStats/rwlh
5/28: ChichiriMuyo
6/4: BlueCrystalTear
6/11: rwlh
6/18: NFUN
6/25: HBJDubs/firefdr/NFUN
7/2: StifledSilence
7/9: MaxGalactica

Future cycle:
7/16: MetalmindStats
7/23: HBJDubs
7/30: Raetsel_Lapin
8/6: competitive week
8/13: Steiner
8/20: Snake5555555555
8/27: Jesse_Custer
9/3: competitive week
9/10: ZaziGuado
9/17: firefdr
9/24: Johnbobb
10/1: competitive week
10/8: VeryInsane
10/15: FoolFantastic
10/22: Seanchan
10/29: competitive week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYpn8yUnX_c

15. Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am That's What I'm Not (2006)
Win-Loss-Tie: 10-13-1 (Score: 10.5)
Average Rank: 14.41/25
Top Three Tracks: I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor, When the Sun Goes Down, Mardy Bum

Individual Rankings:
FoolFantastic: 5
rwlh: 6
Seanchan: 10
neonreaper: 14
Johnbobb: 15
Snake5555555555: 16
Raetsel_Lapin: 17
MetalmindStats: 20/22
HBJDubs: 24

rwlh: Lots of great, consistent energy; every song adds to the overall experience.
Favorite song: I Bet You Look Good on the Dancefloor

Seanchan: Whatever People Say I am, Thats What Im Not - Theres something about the general sound on offer here that I enjoy. I wouldnt say theres many stand out songs, but on re-listen I was surprised at how many little bits and pieces that I remembered.

FoolFantastic: Arctic Monkeys arrived just at the tail-end of the post-punk/garage rock revival scene, but they landed with one of the best albums to come from the movement. A solid third of the tracks here are all-timers for me, and the rest help form a very consistent experience. This is pretty much the best mainstream rock had to offer in the 2000s.

Ordinary Story
Colony
Man Made God
Zombie Inc.
Pallar Anders Visa
Resin
Embody the Invisible
Behind Space '99
Insipid 2000
Coerced Coexistence
The New Word
Scorn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waw-PAfWSnM

16. The Birthday Massacre - Walking With Strangers (2007)
Win-Loss-Tie: 9-15-0 (Score: 9)
Average Rank: 14.6/25
Top Three Tracks: Science, Looking Glass, Kill the Lights

Individual Rankings:
MetalmindStats: 3/22
Snake5555555555: 4
HBJDubs: 11
neonreaper: 13
Johnbobb: 18
Seanchan: 18
Raetsel_Lapin: 21
rwlh: 21
FoolFantastic: 22

rwlh: This was fine I guess. I really liked one song but I wasnt into anything else.
Favorite song: Goodnight

Seanchan: (I Have No Idea - Pop Edition) Im probably repeating myself with what I said when we ranked the tracks, but while I generally like the soundscape here it all just gloms together in a way that makes this kind of forgettable overall. Not bad, just something thats hard to remember which tracks are which even a few days later..

FoolFantastic: This is a sound I generally enjoy, but nothing here was really pushing boundaries and most of it blurred together. Feels like an album where you could show me any of the songs as a sample and I'd think I would like it, but the album as a whole is too much of the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGNS9flNwiU

17. Duke Ellington - Far East Suite (1967)
Win-Loss-Tie: 9-15-0 (Score: 9)
Average Rank: 14.91/25
Top Three Tracks: Mount Harissa, Blue Pepper (Far East of the Blues), Tourist Point of View

Individual Rankings:
rwlh: 4
FoolFantastic: 10
Johnbobb: 10
MetalmindStats: 9/22
neonreaper: 12
Snake5555555555: 19
Seanchan: 20
Raetsel_Lapin: 24
HBJDubs: 25

rwlh: Very strong album with lots of variety.
Favorite song: Mount Harissa

Seanchan: (I Have No Idea - Jazz Edition) Im probably repeating myself with what I said when we ranked the tracks, but while I generally like the soundscape here it all just gloms together in a way that makes this kind of forgettable overall. Not bad, just something thats hard to remember which tracks are which even a few days later..

FoolFantastic: An absolutely outstanding jazz album and one I'm happy to have revisited after not paying it much attention before. Ellington paints such a strong image purely through sound.

Also, I think there's some extra use in the Shuri-meta. Unexpectedly dragging Armor to a different location can leave Red Skull exposed (if they don't pull both Armor and Cosmo).

Polaris is just a really good card. High stats and an easy way to clog up an opponent's lane with weaker cards.

Hit 90/95 this morning playing my junk deck all season. I'm happy my "annoy other players" goal is lining up perfectly with actually advancing.

The Hood
Titania
Angela
Black Widow
Daredevil
Viper
Green Goblin
Debrii
Polaris
Shang-Chi
Professor X
Spider-Woman

The main problem with this deck is, there have been a lot of games where I win on turn 5. As in, I have successfully clogged up every space on my opponent's board and they have no ability to even try.

I've been getting a ton of Galactus players the last couple days, which feels like a free 4 cubes when you happen to have Professor X.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c18441Eh_WE

18. Kylie Minogue - Fever (2001)
Win-Loss-Tie: 7-17-0 (Score: 7)
Average Rank: 15.02/25
Top Three Tracks: Can't Get You Out of My Head, Love at First Sight, Love Affair

Individual Rankings:
HBJDubs: 5
Raetsel_Lapin: 5
Seanchan: 8
FoolFantastic: 14
MetalmindStats: 16/22
neonreaper: 19
rwlh: 20
Snake5555555555: 22
Johnbobb: 24

rwlh: I didnt connect with this at all.
Favorite song: Whenever You Feel Like It

Seanchan: A disco pop album of high highs but that is ultimately brought down by some middling songs in the middle. Its still pretty damn good overall but on the full album level just isnt as consistent as Sucker Punch.

FoolFantastic: In many ways, Fever feels like a precursor to a more mellow form of pop music that blew up during the 2010s. As such, it feels more relevant now than it did at release, though I also prefer a lot of the albums that followed in its footsteps.

Those were...unexpected results. Every other music circle I spend time in treats "Bunny is a Rider" and especially "Billions" as two of the greatest pop songs ever written, and here they're treated as middle of the road on their own album. I feel like I heard a completely different album.

Caroline Polachek - Desire I Want to Turn Into You results

The participants sorted by deviation from final results:
Seanchan (22)
FoolFantastic (30)
Johnbobb (32)
Peace__Frog (34)
HBJDubs (40)
Raetsel_Lapin (42)

General Album Comments

Seanchan: I feel like my expectations for this album were a little off. This is a more mellow, slower album that I was expecting. Which isn't necessarily my cup of tea but we'll see what happens with a few more listens.

changmas: oh hell yeah finally another album from an artist i love

Peace__Frog: I adore polachek and every time I've listened to this album has been from start to end without really paying attention to the specific songs. I'll have to think on this.

Seanchan: A middle of the road album for me. There's stuff that I liked here but nothing I loved. I found the last few songs in my ranking to be kind of boring. Feels like an album though that I might enjoy more the more I listen.

HBJDubs: Pretty much spent back and forth the whole album questioning whether I like the vocals or not, and that includes flip-flopping my thoughts midsong, for pretty much every song. As Seanchan said, "middle of the road" seems like a perfect descriptor for this album.

track ranking

12. Butterfly Net (Track #10)
Score: 25 (Average Rank: 9/12)
Biggest Fan(s): HBJDubs (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): Johnbobb (#12)

11. Hopedrunk Everasking (Track #9)
Score: 28 (Average Rank: 8.5/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): Seanchan, Peace__Frog (#12)

10. Crude Drawing of an Angel (Track #5)
Score: 29 (Average Rank: 8.83/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): FoolFantastic (#12)

9. Pretty in Possible (Track #2)
Score: 37 (Average Rank: 6.83/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb (#4)
Biggest Detractor(s): Seanchan, FoolFantastic, HBJDubs (#8)

8. Blood and Butter (Track #8)
Score: 40 (Average Rank: 6.5/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#3)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#12)

7. Smoke (Track #11)
Score: 43 (Average Rank: 6.17/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Peace__Frog (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin, Seanchan (#9)

6. Billions (Track #12)
Score: 44 (Average Rank: 6.33/12)
Biggest Fan(s): FoolFantastic (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#11)

5. Bunny is a Rider (Track #3)
Score: 44 (Average Rank: 6/12)
Biggest Fan(s): FoolFantastic (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): Raetsel_Lapin (#10)

4. Fly to You (Track #7)
Score: 48 (Average Rank: 5.67/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb, HBJDubs (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): Peace__Frog (#11)

3. I Believe (Track #6)
Score: 51 (Average Rank: 5.17/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan (#2)
Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs (#10)

2. Sunset (Track #4)
Score: 53 (Average Rank: 5.67/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Seanchan, Peace__Frog (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): HBJDubs (#12)

1. Welcome to My Island (Track #1)
Score: 68 (Average Rank: 3.33/12)
Biggest Fan(s): Johnbobb, HBJDubs (#1)
Biggest Detractor(s): Peace__Frog (#7)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR7USljBVWE

19. La Dispute - Rooms of the House (2014)
Win-Loss-Tie: 7-17-0 (Score: 7)
Average Rank: 15.82/25
Top Three Tracks: Woman (in mirror), Woman (reading), The Child We Lost in 1963

Individual Rankings:
Snake5555555555: 1
MetalmindStats: 10/22
HBJDubs: 15
neonreaper: 16
Johnbobb: 17
rwlh: 17
FoolFantastic: 20
Raetsel_Lapin: 20
Seanchan: 25

rwlh: Really rough start. While there were some nice highlights, overall I struggled to get into the style.
Favorite song: First Reactions After Falling Through The Ice

Seanchan: This one easily rocketed to the very bottom of my album rankings. Its just a chore to listen to with what has to be the worst singer on any album weve covered. Maybe some of that is just the screaming/yelling delivery of like 90% of the lyrics, but ye god my ears. To whomever nominated this album, Im sorry for being so negative but this one REALLY wasnt for me.

FoolFantastic: This album felt too densely packed for me to really process and not captivating enough sonically for me to want to invest the necessary energy.

swordz9 posted...

What about a card that ignores location effects? Would be great for playing on Sanctum and a select few annoying ones, but would also get NO positives from any location either. I dunno what kind of energy/power youd give such a card though.

I think that would be difficult to implement due to Bar With No Name. The upcoming Jeff does a lot of the location bypassing, at least.

Jakyl25 posted...

Wacky card idea:

A card where having it in your deck means you can see the name of your opponents deck in the matchup screen

I think that unfortunately just causes everyone to not name their decks, which would simply make part of the game annoying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIriwVhRPVA

20. Sigrid - Sucker Punch (2019)
Win-Loss-Tie: 5-18-1 (Score: 5.5)
Average Rank: 16.97/25
Top Three Tracks: Strangers, Don't Kill My Vibe, Sucker Punch

Individual Rankings:
Seanchan: 6
Raetsel_Lapin: 9
MetalmindStats: 13/22
FoolFantastic: 16
neonreaper: 18
Johnbobb: 20
HBJDubs: 22
rwlh: 23
Snake5555555555: 24

rwlh: Not my thing, sorry!
Favorite song: Never Mine

Seanchan: Easily the biggest surprise of this cycle. As a general lover of pop music, I shouldnt have been surprised but this is an enormously solid album with no bad songs. Ive continued to come back to this album since our ranking week, with Dont Kill My Vibe really standing out as a modern pop classic.

FoolFantastic: Perfectly good electropop, but nothing here particularly wows me. I think a large portion of our choices represent the best of their respective genres, so one that is merely a solid entry looks weak in comparison. In another context, I could see myself raving about this as an overlooked gem.

Where are you going to tap if it doesn't say that? There isn't a visible deck on screen unlike the other two.

I feel like you're assigning a meaning to tap beyond the literal 'touch this part of the screen to see the card' that they likely mean

I wonder how my junk deck will handle the change. The only card effected is Aero, but she wasn't particularly useful when my deck was working properly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mqNfLDwtm8

21. Protest the Hero - Palimpsest (2020)
Win-Loss-Tie: 3-21-0 (Score: 3)
Average Rank: 17.49/25
Top Three Tracks: From the Sky, The Fireside, All Hands

Individual Rankings:
Raetsel_Lapin: 10
Snake5555555555: 11
Johnbobb: 16
HBJDubs: 17
FoolFantastic: 18
neonreaper: 20
MetalmindStats: 18/22
rwlh: 22
Seanchan: 23

rwlh: Not my thing in any capacity at alluntil I got to the last song, which I LOVED. That was a nice reward for sticking with it!
Favorite song: Rivet

Seanchan: LIked this metal album a little bit more on a relisten. When we did the track ranking, I think I said that the singing didnt match the instruments. I still think thats true but its not quite as bad as I remembered. The yelling/screaming parts are very grating but his regular tone is fine (though a far cry from the best in the genre).

FoolFantastic: Gonna be honest, I don't remember much of anything about this album (...which is still enough to beat out seven of the other albums)

Britney has had a few great singles, but Taylor Swift has released several full albums that are strong from beginning to end.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-dwmYeLLng

22. Lindsey Stirling - Warmer in the Winter (2017)
Win-Loss-Tie: 3-21-0 (Score: 3)
Average Rank: 17.62/25
Top Three Tracks: Christmas C'mon, What Child is This, Carol of the Bells, Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy

Individual Rankings:
rwlh: 8
Seanchan: 13
Raetsel_Lapin: 15
Snake5555555555: 15
HBJDubs: 20
neonreaper: 21
MetalmindStats: 19/22
Johnbobb: 22
FoolFantastic: 23

rwlh: I loathe Christmas so I was looking forward to this one the least, but its not at all what I expected, it doesnt feel like traditional Christmas music at all. Easily the most pleasant surprise of the list. Seriously this might be the first time I have EVER enjoyed Christmas music. Big appreciation for whoever nominated this.
Favorite song: Angels We Have Heard On High

Seanchan: A solid Christmas album thats elevated for me by the addition of some great little holiday pop songs.

FoolFantastic: The general problem for me is that I have preferred versions of all the classics and I don't care for the originals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGMQjTwSRSQ

23. Bad Religion - No Control (1989)
Win-Loss-Tie: 3-21-0 (Score: 3)
Average Rank: 18.43/25
Top Three Tracks: I Want to Conquer the World, No Control, You

Individual Rankings:
FoolFantastic: 13
Snake5555555555: 14
MetalmindStats: 14/22
Seanchan: 17
HBJDubs: 18
rwlh: 18
neonreaper: 22
Johnbobb: 23
Raetsel_Lapin: 25

rwlh: I know some songs by Bad Religion but this is a rawer sound than Im used to by them! An enjoyable listen but it all blended together for me.
Favorite song: You

Seanchan: (I Have No Idea - Punk Edition) Im probably repeating myself with what I said when we ranked the tracks, but while I generally like the soundscape here it all just gloms together in a way that makes this kind of forgettable overall. Not bad, just something thats hard to remember which tracks are which even a few days later..

FoolFantastic: My favorite new discovery of the batch, though also an album where I feel like ranking the tracks was to its detriment. Like many of the best punk albums, this is a singular burst of frantic energy better taken as a whole.

Still four and a halfish hours left to vote

Jimmy Cliff - The Harder They Come > Bob Marley and the Wailers - Exodus > Toots and the Maytals - Funky Kingston

Giggsalot's comment on the choices:
Even after 100+ entries, there are loads of types of music that we've never covered at all. My plan is to use my slots in the topic to try to fix that, and get some fun variety up in here. This week's genre: reggae! These are all incredibly accessible starting points for anyone that doesn't know the style well - Marley is obviously iconic, The Harder They Come is a great overview of the reggae sound of the early 1970s, and Toots is just as joyous and soulful as reggae gets. Any would be great choices for this thread!

poll for Giggsalot's week:
Bob Marley and the Wailers - Exodus
vs.
Jimmy Cliff - The Harder They Come
vs.
Toots and the Maytals - Funky Kingston

Previous results can be seen here:
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks_Set_2
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Rank_the_Tracks_Set_3

The rules:
1. Listen to the album in full
2. Rank every track on the album
3. For the results, there will be a curve at the top of each list; two additional points between #1 and #2, and one additional point for the next two ranks. This way, the songs that really stick out to someone get an edge that is not immediately negated by someone else putting it lower. In the case of Demon Days, someone's 15th track will get 1 point, 14th 2 points, 4th 12 points, 3rd 14 points, 2nd 16 points, and 1st 19 points. For albums with greater than 15 tracks, everything ranked below #15 will be given 0 points and the scale for the top 15 will be the same as a 15-track album. For albums with more than 20 tracks, you only have to list your top 15 (with 16-20, I still like having the average rank listed)
4. If you want to include comments for individual songs, I will compile them in the results
5. The results will be posted at the beginning of the next topic
6. The deadline to vote is Sunday, March 26 at 4:00 PM Central Time; the future week poll will close earlier, when I am putting up the next topic
7. You can sign up to be added to the user cycle (a new user will be added to the end of the current cycle as long as there are four weeks remaining) - the next person on the list will choose 3 albums which the other users will vote on for the next topic.
7a. To ensure people are being given an actual choice, the three nominated albums must be by different artists. You can otherwise stick to a similar sound or era.
7b. The tiebreaker for these polls will be whichever is listed first in the poll options - make sure to deliver the results in order of your own preference (which will hopefully have the added benefit of influencing people toward your first choice if they can't decide).
7c. I have added a tiered vote structure - the least popular album will be removed and its backup votes distributed to the other two entrants.
8. Starting with the next cycle, every four weeks will be a competitive week where those listed choose a single album to face off against others.
9. Skits and tracks under 40 seconds will be excluded from the rankings unless argued otherwise

In Flames - Colony track list:
1. Embody the Invisible
2. Ordinary Story
3. Scorn
4. Colony
5. Zombie Inc.
6. Pallar Anders Visa
7. Coerced Coexistence
8. Resin
9. Behind Space '99
10. Insipid 2000
11. The New Word
12. Man Made God

Current cycle:
3/26: Johnbobb's bonus (Pearl Jam - Ten)
4/2: Giggsalot
4/9: RyoCaliente (The Smiths - The Queen is Dead)
4/16: darkx
4/23: Snake5555555555/Raetsel_Lapin/Seanchan
4/30: neonreaper
5/7: Great_Paul
5/14: jcgamer107
5/21: Giggsalot/MetalmindStats/rwlh
5/28: ChichiriMuyo
6/4: BlueCrystalTear
6/11: rwlh
6/18: NFUN
6/25: HBJDubs/firefdr/NFUN
7/2: StifledSilence

Future cycle:
7/9: MetalmindStats
7/16: HBJDubs
7/23: Raetsel_Lapin
7/30: competitive week
8/6: Steiner
8/13: Snake5555555555
8/20: Jesse_Custer
8/27: competitive week
9/3: ZaziGuado
9/10: firefdr
9/17: Johnbobb
9/24: competitive week
10/1: VeryInsane
10/8: FoolFantastic
10/15: Seanchan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEb2CecR11I

24. Backstreet Boys - Millennium (1999)
Win-Loss-Tie: 2-22-0 (Score: 2)
Average Rank: 18.44/25
Top Three Tracks: Larger Than Life, I Want It That Way, Show Me the Meaning of Being Lonely

Individual Rankings:
Raetsel_Lapin: 7
HBJDubs: 14
Johnbobb: 14
rwlh: 14
Seanchan: 19
FoolFantastic: 24
neonreaper: 24
MetalmindStats: 22/22
Snake5555555555: 25

rwlh: Perfectly serviceable turn of the millennium pop. Some real gems in here!
Favorite song: Its Gotta Be You

Seanchan: Better on a relisten than I remembered. Theres half or three quarters a decent/good pop album and then a bunch of snoozer tracks that bring it down.

FoolFantastic: I would rather leave the boy band era behind. Not a fan of even the 'best' songs here.

Rank the albums volume 4 being revealed here:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/80383397

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt6Lkgs0kiU

25. The Ataris - So Long, Astoria (2003)
Win-Loss-Tie: 1-23-0 (Score: 1)
Average Rank: 18.87/25
Top Three Tracks: The Boys of Summer, So Long Astoria, Takeoffs and Landings

Individual Rankings:
Raetsel_Lapin: 4
Seanchan: 4
HBJDubs: 19
Snake5555555555: 21
neonreaper: 23
MetalmindStats: 21/22
FoolFantastic: 25
Johnbobb: 25
rwlh: 25

rwlh: I did not finish this album. Specifically, I got up to the beginning of track 5. The singers voice was so unpleasant to me that it physically hurt to listen to. Apologies if you liked or nominated this - its just not for me.

Seanchan: I had such trouble ranking this one, and actually moved it further up after a re-listen. Thing is, this is my personal list and should reflect the fact that Ive continued to come back to this pop-punk album over the years. Is it as objectively good as some of the albums I have ranked below it? No. But this is one of those albums Ive heard so many times I cant help but start to sing along.

FoolFantastic: There were three albums in this set I outright disliked, compared to I believe one from the first 75 albums. So Long Astoria takes a genre I already don't care for, makes it as generic as possible, and tops it off by dragging on for over 50 minutes.

Here is the list of participants:
FoolFantastic
HBJDubs
Johnbobb
MetalmindStats
neonreaper
Raetsel_Lapin
rwlh
Seanchan
Snake5555555555

As a reminder, these are the 25 albums being ranked:
Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am That's What I'm Not
The Ataris - So Long, Astoria
Backstreet Boys - Millennium
Bad Religion - No Control
The Birthday Massacre - Walking With Strangers
black midi - Hellfire
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
La Dispute - Rooms of the House
Duke Ellington - Far East Suite
Green Day - American Idiot
Michael Jackson - Thriller
Elton John - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual
Kylie Minogue - Fever
Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill
Nas - Illmatic
Protest the Hero - Palimpsest
Rage Against the Machine - Rage Against the Machine
Sigrid - Sucker Punch
Slipknot - Vol. 3 The Subliminal Verses
Sonata Arctica - Ecliptica
Lindsey Stirling - Warmer in the Winter
Tool - 10,000 Days
Ween - Quebec

Results were determined by a win-loss-tie formula where every pair of albums faced off directly. Ties were broken by average rank.

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